Along with the excitement of tonight’s big win for Portugal, the voting results of the semi-finals have also been released. It confirms that grand final winner Portugal won the first semi-final, while runner-up Bulgaria won the second. But as we can see from the jury/televote split, other results weren’t so clearcut.

Semi-final one

Not surprisingly, the winner of the first semi-final was Portugal, with 370 points. Salvador topped both the jury and the televote, making him the unanimous winner.

In second place was Moldova with 291 points. They were a bigger favourite in the televote results giving them second place with 180 points, but they only managed fourth place in the jury vote with 111 points.

In third place was Sweden, with 227 points. Robin Bengtsson was a favourite with the jury who also ranked him third with 124 points. Televoters ranked him fourth with 103 points.

Belgium‘s Blanche placed fourth with 164 points, but there was a difference of opinion with the jury and televote. The jury only gave her 40 points, in 13th place, while viewers were much more impressed and put Blanche in third place with 125 points.

Armenia‘s Artsvik — who going into the semi had been considered a strong contender to win — only managed seventh place with 152 points.

Australia was a big hit with juries, who placed Isaiah second with 139 points. But the bum note in his semi-final performance was off-key with televoters who placed him 15th with only 21 points. The combined score of 160 was enough to save Australia in sixth place.

Unlucky 11th place went to Georgia. Tamara Gachechiladze had 99 points, just 16 away from beating Greece to tenth place.

Fan favourite Finland placed 12th with 92 points. Norma John would have qualified had it been down to televotes alone – they placed tenth with the public on 51 points. Sadly the jury ranked them 12th with 41 points, taking them out of the overall top ten.

Latvia placed last in the first semi-final with only 21 points for Triana Park. They earned only one point from the juries and a slightly more generous 20 points from the televote.

Semi-final one: Full results

  1. Portugal: Salvador Sobral – “Amar Pelos Dois” (370 points)
  2. Moldova: Sunstroke Project – “Hey Mamma” (291 points)
  3. Sweden: Robin Bengtsson – “I Can’t Go On” (227 points)
  4. Belgium: Blanche – “City Lights” (165 points)
  5. Cyprus: Hovig – “Gravity” (164 points)
  6. Australia: Isaiah – “Don’t Come Easy” (160 points)
  7. Armenia: Artsvik – “Fly with Me” (152 points)
  8. Azerbaijan: Dihaj – “Skeletons” (150 points)
  9. Poland: Kasia Mos – “Flashlight” (119 points)
  10. Greece: Demy – “This Is Love” (115 points)
  11. Georgia: Tamara Gachechiladze – “Keep the Faith” (99 points)
  12. Finland: Norma John – “Blackbird” (92 points)
  13. Czech Republic: Martina Bárta – “My Turn” (83 points)
  14. Albania: Lindita – “World” (76 points)
  15. Iceland: Svala – “Paper” (60 points)
  16. Montenegro: Slavko Kalezic – “Space” (56 points)
  17. Slovenia: Omar Naber – “On My Way” (36 points)
  18. Latvia: Triana Park – “Line” (21 points)

Semi-final one: Jury results

  1. Portugal – 173 points
  2. Australia – 139 points
  3. Sweden – 124 points
  4. Moldova – 111 points
  5. Armenia – 87 points
  6. Azerbaijan – 87 points
  7. Czech Republic – 81 points
  8. Georgia – 62 points
  9. Cyprus – 61 points
  10. Greece – 61 points
  11. Poland – 50 points
  12. Finland – 41 points
  13. Belgium – 40 points
  14. Albania – 38 points
  15. Iceland – 29 points
  16. Montenegro – 17 points
  17. Slovenia – 16 points
  18. Latvia – 1 points

Semi-final one: Televote results

  1. Portugal – 197 points
  2. Moldova – 180 points
  3. Belgium – 125 points
  4. Sweden – 103 points
  5. Cyprus – 103 points
  6. Poland – 69 points
  7. Armenia – 65 points
  8. Azerbaijan – 63 points
  9. Greece – 54 points
  10. Finland – 51 points
  11. Montenegro – 39 points
  12. Albania – 38 points
  13. Georgia – 37 points
  14. Iceland – 31 points
  15. Australia – 21 points
  16. Latvia – 20 points
  17. Slovenia – 20 points
  18. Czech Republic – 2 points

Semi-final two

Bulgaria won the second semi-final wth 403 points. Kristian Kostov was the unanimous winner of both the jury vote and the televote – that’s 199 points and 204 points respectively.

Hungary placed second in the semi-final with 231 points. Joci Papai’s ethno rap was a hit with televoters who placed him second with 165 points. However, juries were less enthused. They ranked him seventh with only 66 points.

Israel was third with 207 points. In a piece of curious Eurovision scoring, Israel was fourth with the televote on 132 points and sixth with the juries on 75 points. Norway was the jury’s third place fave, while televoters put Romania third. They cancelled each other out, which put Israel third in the overall results.

Fan favourite Estonia was a hit with televoters. Koit Toome and Laura were placed sixth in the televote with 69 points. But the jury was much less impressed. They gave Estonia only 16 points, meaning an overall rank of 14th with 85 points.

Narrowly missing out was Serbia in 11th place with 98 points, just four points away from beating Denmark in tenth place. Switzerland was also close to qualification with 97 points.

Denmark was also more a favourite with the jury. Anja received 96 points from the jury, who ranked her fourth. But televoters were much less impressed. They awarded Denmark only five points, meaning a rank of only 16th. But without those five points, Denmark would not have qualified for the final – every point counts!

San Marino was bottom of the second semi with only one point, due to a generous televote score. Juries awarded San Marino nil points.

And the curse of Malta struck again. For another year they proved themselves a big favourite only with juries. Claudia Faniello’s ballad placed eight in the jury vote with 55 points. But sadly televoters weren’t fans. Malta earned nil points from the televote, resulting in an overall rank of 16th.

Semi-final two: Full results

  1. Bulgaria: Kristian Kostov – “Beautiful Mess” (403 points)
  2. Hungary: Joci Pápai – “Origo” (231 points)
  3. Israel: IMRI – “I Feel Alive” (207 points)
  4. Netherlands: OG3NE – “Lights and Shadows” (200 points)
  5. Norway: JOWST – “Grab the Moment” (189 points)
  6. Romania: Ilinca ft.Alex Florea – “Yodel It!” (174 points)
  7. Austria: Nathan Trent – “Running on Air” (147 points)
  8. Croatia: Jacques Houdek – “My Friend” (141 points)
  9. Belarus: Naviband – “Story of My Life” (110 points)
  10. Denmark: Anja – “Where I Am” (101 points)
  11. Serbia: Tijana Bogicevic – “In Too Deep” (98 points)
  12. Switzerland: Timebelle – “Apollo” (97 points)
  13. Ireland: Brendan Murray – “Dying to Try” (86 points)
  14. Estonia: Koit Toome and Laura – “Verona” (85 points)
  15. FYR Macedonia: Jana Burceska – “Dance Alone” (69 points)
  16. Malta: Claudia Faniello – “Breathlessly” (55 points)
  17. Lithuania: Fusedmarc – “Rain of Revolution” (42 points)
  18. San Marino: Valentina Monetta and Jimmie Wilson – “Spirit of the Night” (1 points)

Semi-final two: Jury results

  1. Bulgaria – 199 points
  2. Netherlands – 149 points
  3. Norway – 137 points
  4. Austria – 115 points
  5. Denmark – 96 points
  6. Israel – 75 points
  7. Hungary – 66 points
  8. Belarus – 55 points
  9. Malta – 55 points
  10. Serbia – 53 points
  11. Switzerland – 48 points
  12. Ireland – 45 points
  13. Croatia – 37 points
  14. FYR Macedonia – 29 points
  15. Romania – 26 points
  16. Lithuania – 17 points
  17. Estonia – 16 points
  18. San Marino – 0 points

Semi-final two: Televote results

  1. Bulgaria – 204 points
  2. Hungary – 165 points
  3. Romania – 148 points
  4. Israel – 132 points
  5. Croatia – 104 points
  6. Estonia – 69 points
  7. Belarus – 55 points
  8. Norway – 52 points
  9. Netherlands – 51 points
  10. Switzerland – 49 points
  11. Serbia – 45 points
  12. Ireland – 41 points
  13. FYR Macedonia – 40 points
  14. Austria – 32 points
  15. Lithuania – 25 points
  16. Denmark – 5 points
  17. San Marino – 1 points
  18. Malta – 0 points

What do you think? Are there any surprises in the full semi-final results? Have your say below!

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Jellyfish
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Jellyfish

So BULGARIA had the highest score of the Semi-Finals…Interesting, interesting

Marin
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Along with every little thing which seems to be developing throughout this specific subject material, all your opinions happen to be quite refreshing. However, I beg your pardon, because I can not subscribe to your entire idea, all be it stimulating none the less. It would seem to me that your remarks are generally not totally rationalized and in actuality you are generally yourself not completely convinced of the assertion. In any case I did enjoy examining it.

ESCfan
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ESCfan

Hi,
I have a doubt about the popular system vote.
What happen when some country vote 10 times for a country and then 10 times for another country? Example: If Spain called 10 times for the sweden’s song and then 10 times for the UK’s song, wich one of them take the popular vote??

Svetoslav
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Svetoslav

Kristian has more points then Jamala 2016, Conchita 2014, Emmelie de Forest 2013, Ell & Nikki 2011, Lena 2010 … More even than Dima Bilan 2008 😉 And more … So Bravo ….

Allie
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Allie

Yes, and he is just 17:-)

Jellyfish
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Jellyfish

KRISTIAN is awesome …He is the real winner to me.

Bob
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Bob

My family’s reaction on the Grand final: Most of us enjoyed Hungary for being different. No one was impressed with Moldova. “Tasteless” performance. Italy generated a big cheer and several “Finally something good!” One person liked Portugal, the rest thought it was just boring. Azerbaijan was “interesting” but not really “good”, strange performance. Romania laughable to some but most thought it was painful to listen to. Belgium was “good song but no winner”, one persons favourite! Sweden generated a big cheer from the female part of the family (lol). Most of us liked Bulgaria and France as well. Italy was… Read more »

redfox
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redfox

Um you seem to have a big family

Bob
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Bob

We were 7 people (including myself) 🙂

Lynda
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Lynda

I like your family’s taste in music 🙂

Bob
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Bob

Oh thanks! 😀

ojhcd
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ojhcd

Your family has terrible music taste.

Bob
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Bob

What’s terrible about it?

Lynda
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Lynda

Just wanted to compare youtube likes (likes minus dislikes) with actual Eurovision results. – First the real shockers: Macedonia and Serbia! They didn’t qualify for the final but have the 11th and 14th highest youtube likes of all the songs! On the other hand Croatia qualifying and ending 13th in the final but on youtube they are just 30th for the number of likes! Bulgaria ending 2nd in the final but 15th by youtube likes! – Belgium is currently absolute winner in youtube likes (67k likes vs 5k dislikes) while Portugal comes second (77k likes vs 23k dislikes). – Cyprus… Read more »

Ron
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Ron

Is it just me or did Armenia get ROYALLY SCREWED this year? I mean going into the finals everyone thought it was a top 5 material but only managed to place 18th? Same with Israel. Finished 3rd in the semi and like 21 or something in the final. WTF? I’m working on my full analysis of the contest, but countries that performed in the beginning massively went unnoticed.

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

No, not just you. Armenia was worth top 10.

Helene
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Helene

As an American watching Eurovision in America , I was astounded that Portugal and Bulgaria were the top 2 acts, Yes, both performances were good, but both were just rehashings of music and styles we’ve seen for years — performed by adorable boys. Watch out Europe, you are falling onto that seemingly sweet trap that brought to us an era of music where Justin Bieber and the Jonas Brothers were considered great talents and screaming pubescent girls became the ultimate arbiter of excellent music. I (and the fellow Americans that watched with me) all felt that Italy and Croatia presented… Read more »

Ron
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Ron

Just curious where in the States are you from? Cuz I’m from LA and watched it at Precint in DTLA and it was so much fun!

Helene
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Helene

That sounds like the place to be! I live in DC and watched it at home with an ever-increasing gang of friends who, like me, thought “Euro What?” a few years ago and now would not miss it for any reason! Props to Precint for daring to present some spectacular, not-the-usual-fare entertainment.

Eva M.
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Eva M.

I live in the States too, in San Diego to be precise, and I cannot disagree more with you. Kristian and Salvador are as far from the generally shallow American music here, as it can be. Both of them have depth and sensitivity and the gift to move people with their performances. I have to congratulate Europe on their taste this year.

Helene
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Helene

No, they are really not that far…But you are certainly entitled to your own perceptions and opinions. I’m just glad the fan base for this great contest is expanding here in the US.

Eva M.
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Eva M.

No? Is this some kind of final verdict? I say yes, thank God Eurovision is not another American show and thank God the winners are not another copycat of a mainstream American song. It would certainly have failed if it was imitating the States.
I would say that the two entries which were markedly American — Lucy and Isaiah, predictably failed to make the left side of the board. For me, this year Europe really nailed it, as both Salvador and Kristian placed 1st and 2nd respectively with a huge lead in the votes.

Sharon
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Sharon

IF A Song IS in the charts in lots Europeans countries before Eurovision it’s is advantaged already promoted of course by the bookies and media now about 5 countries had that with over 1 million youtube hits – before the contest
THE other countries have unfair battle

Fishy
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Fishy

Is there someone from San Marino that can give heads up about the singers there? Aren’t there famous local acts?

ebu
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ebu

I work at EBU – Portugal won because of Brazil.

ojhcd
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ojhcd

i’ve heard many silly excuses but that has to be the most idiotic one.

Jellyfish
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Jellyfish

Portugal claimed not being commercial we are just singing in our own language Portuguese (Brazilian) 😀

Pepito
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Pepito

“Amar pelos dois” by Salvador Sobral is already in the top 15 of more than 30 countries. His brilliant album “Excuse me” is also in the top 10 of several countries. His single and album are number 1 in Spain and Portugal, the album is number 1 in at least 5 other European contries… Well done, Salvador!

blondboybc
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blondboybc

ESC post-mortem: Biggest surprise: Moldova getting third place overall. I actually enjoyed their performance, but…. Biggest disappointment: Italy getting 6th overall, and not placing top 3 in the tele-vote. It has been and remains my favourite. Portugal’s song was lovely, but not my cup of tea. Francesco definitely warranted better–even my friends who aren’t ESC fans agree. 🙂 Biggest shock: Australia only getting 2 points from the tele-vote, but doing very well with the jury. Such a contrast to last year where they got 4th in tele-vote. Food for thought…. Biggest confirmation: Germany and Spain finishing at bottom of the… Read more »

Ross
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Ross

Agree with all. Moldova is great but 3rd was way higher than I thought they’d get. Italy is my favourite song by miles and I was disappointed that it had been the favourite by miles for months and I’m baffled as to how it didn’t reach the top 3 at the very least! Portugal is nice enough but pretty dull! Songs usually get stick if they sound dated, but this is straight from the 1950s! The song doesn’t even go anywhere – it’s all on one level. Don’t know how it did so well. Australia’s contrast was really weird. The… Read more »

lory
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lory

MarkBeckenbreur What is wrong with you dude?? Defending terrorist country who wants to destroy Israel.No thanks we not need in the Eurovision terrorists countries. You can invaite them to your country.and yes with this countries there is always a terror threth in big international events.go and get some education about the middle east becouse you dont know nothing really.

why?
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why?

Can you write an article about what’s the purpose of juries? Because honestly I don’t understand. Estonia was without its neighbours in second semi final. Got well deserved 6th place and didn’t get in final because of juries. Austria and Denmark didn’t even made to top 10 although they even had their neighbours there to vote for them and juries sent them to final. This year when they added juries to the compatition they said it will avoid political voting. I have been following results many years and to me it seems that non-political voting suffers the most.

blondboybc
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blondboybc

Apparently the purpose of the juries was to balance so-called “populist” “joke” acts from doing well or winning, and to bring some form of professionalism to the contest. However, my take is that sometimes they are simply too biased and prejudiced and easily manipulated to vote politically–2016 was easily the best example with Russia. Personally, though I can see the logic in using them, I also think having a mere 5 jurors from each country deciding 50% of the vote is elitist and prone corruption/political voting, etc. The jury system needs some kind of revamp/overhaul to either lessen their power… Read more »

Ricb
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Ricb

You’re so right…I personally think juries should stay But this year They apparently voted quite randomly…Except a few acts such as portugal and the netherlands i reckon there are a lot of songs undeservingly boosted by juries ( Australia and sweden in particular But also Cyprus norway and austria in my opinion received too many points ) while others were pointlessly crippled by them (see France and Finland ).Moreover paradoxically this year has shown a Major bloc voting with the juries than with the televote

Guido
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Guido

Post Eurovision Stress Syndrome…has started….

Boris Rangelov
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Boris Rangelov

I am very happy that Portugal is the winner and not that weak overrated Bulgaria, that deserved not the 2 place.

John
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John

A beautiful song from Salvador Sobral. You thank me later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nglpp3QSiI

1 POINT IS A CRIME
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1 POINT IS A CRIME

SAN MARINO WITH 1 POINT IS A CRIME

redfox
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redfox

they are a small country though, do they even have room for more than 1 point? they keep sending the only person they have that can sing, too, apparently.

Stan
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Stan

This probably was the first time, Belgium got more from the televoters than from the juries. I am surprised by that, because the quality of the song is very good.

Congrats to Blanche and Pierre, can’t wait to hear more music from those two 🙂

Lucy
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Lucy

And it was the first time Armenia got more points from the jury than the televote

Bdou
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Bdou

Actually it’s not the first time that Belgium got more points from viewers than from juries : * In 2015, for the final, Belgium was 4th with televoters (195 pts) and 5th with the jury (186 pts) * In 2014, even though Belgium was eliminated during the semi-final, they managed to score more points from the televotes than from juries : 12th with 41 pts (Televotes) and 14th with 24 pts (Jury) But I agree that Belgium usually do better with juries than with viewers 🙂 @Lucy : It’s also not the first time that Armenia got more points from… Read more »

Stan
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Stan

Thanks 🙂

redfox
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redfox

so, I am bad at math but if Hungary had scored as high with the juries as it did in televoite, what would it ranking be? Top 5?

the fact foreign juries don´t like Verona was visible before it won Eesti Laul, Polina and the bald jewish guy gave top points to Rasmus. but 6th in televote from the countries that could vote is good, considering our “besties” were in the other semi. Thank you, Lithuanian people, for 12 points in our semi!

Svetoslav
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Svetoslav

If Kristian was representing Russia with that song and performance —> He would have been the winner not Portugal.

Ariana
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Ariana

God no, I’m glad he didn’t represent Russia! Too controversial and political situation for a 17 year old to get involved in. He doesn’t even want a Russian career.

Eva M.
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Eva M.

Exactly, Ariana. Russia uploaded enough controvercial videos in russian which claimed that he supported it against Ukraine. Russia is too manipulative and many people and judges mistrust it. I wish he never had this interviews with Russian journalists. I think they were edited to make them sound as if Kristian supports Russia. I think this cost him a lot at the end, as EBU wants to minimize drama, and rightly so. If he had won, Russia would have used him as a poster boy against Ukraine. Poor Kristian–I am sad to see him facing such a high level political mess… Read more »

Boris Rangelov
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Boris Rangelov

The winner is super, Portugal deserved it. Bul Bulgaria deserved not the 2 place. Armenia, Sweden, Moldavia, Netherlands, Israel, Italy and others are much better than Bulgaria. The song is not bad but its composers merit and not the singer. that man from Buklgaria cant sing live.

Ricb
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Ricb

You’re so right…I personally think juries should stay But this year They apparently voted quite randomly…Except a few acts such as portugal and the netherlands i reckon there are a lot of songs undeservingly boosted by juries ( Australia and sweden in particular But also Cyprus norway and austria in my opinion received too many points ) while others were pointlessly crippled by them (see France and Finland ).Moreover paradoxically this year has shown a Major bloc voting with the juries than with the televote

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

Agree.

Charles
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Charles

Because it’s Russia … not a song contest … but Russia … or are you upset real music won instead?

Eva M.
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Eva M.

Kristian’s music is also real music. Very beautiful too, but in a different way. He himself is a real musician and performer. Unfortunately for him, he was also caught up in the mess between Russia and Ukraine. I am very happy for Portugal. My second choice actually. I remember when Italy was on top, I was rooting for real music. I am so happy with the top, including Moldova, who gave us such a fun show. Bravo!

Boris Rangelov
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Boris Rangelov

No, BUlgaria music is plastic music. I dont know why it was so overrated. But the real music won- Portugal.

Allie
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Allie

You are a pathetic hater and troll, but it does not matter–Bulgaria still finished second and made history. While Italy was the flop of the decade.

George
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George

I love Portugal and Bulgaria this year – the two best songs in ESC’17. Greetings from Bulgaria 🙂

Boris Rangelov
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Boris Rangelov

No. WInner is one. Its Portugal, Salvador deserved it. But Bulgaria was very weak, that guy cant sing. He deserved not the 2 place. Armenia, Sweden,Mlodavia, Netherlands, israel and others are much better than Bulgaria.

Vogzal Odessa
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Vogzal Odessa

First of all, as much as I am not a fan of this year’s overall Portuguese package, I love to see Portugal winning – they have been waiting for it to happen since 1964! This alone is amazing. However, I would connect their triumph more with the general socio-hiPsterical imperatives of the modern society (which Salvador meets impeccably) than with the song’s likeability as such. Everything about this performer smells of fakeness to me. Still, happy for the Portuguese nation. As for the rest, I still don’t know how I feel about the final results. I think Armenia, UK (by… Read more »

Charles
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Charles

If Salvador is fake …. what would you think of a Britney Spears Las Vegas show? I wonder …

Oliver
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Oliver

On the country, he was not politically correct, he didnt even hang out with the contestants. He was pretty genuine to me. The other contestants are fake, acting like they’re sweet angels every single time to please people and gain votes, especially that bulgarian kid. And you all love it. I bet demy was pissed.

adriana
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adriana

I have a feeling that Sweden wont compete next year….Everytime when Sweden won ,Portugal withdrawn from the competition.

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

Why? What is the problem between them?

Charles
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Charles

Nah … Portugal may have an issue with Sweden or Swedish music … but Sweden is not a country with issues or tensions with anybody? That is the typical South European perspective that the North hates them and vice versa …. the North is pretty much “ain’t nobody got time for that”.

Antonio Fraguas
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Antonio Fraguas

As a portuguese guy i never, never heard something like this. We do not have any kind of issues with the north countries. Come on!! We are portugal. Just a small rectangle in the south. We just want to live happy and to see everybody happy. Can you imagine that we even like our neighbour?!?! Nuestros hermanos….!!! We portugal are overwhelmed with the victory. Yes! And for sure we are overwhelmed to host you all next year in Lisboa. As you know, we are very good in hospitality… everybody is more than welcome. Lisbon waits for you with a hug… Read more »

David S
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David S

That’s so nice Antonio. I’ve been to Portugal many times, beautiful place with beautifully friendly people. I’m so happy for you guys, enjoy every moment. Can’t wait to see Eurovision in Portugal next year.

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

Where can we see people’s reaction of Salbador’s arrival in Lisbon and overall reaction of Portuguese people? Have you got a YouTube link for us?

Racal
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Racal
Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

Yes it is. Amazing. I’m happy for Portugal!))

Bella sim
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Bella sim

Sweden will definitely compete next year

Bdou
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Bdou

Unfortunately, it’s not quite true Adriana. Sweden has won 6 times & thus hosted the contest 6 times but only in 2000, 2013 & 2016 (when they hosted the contest), Portugal withdrew. However when they withdrew in 2000, they were forced to do so because of the old rule : between 1994 & 2003, the EBU decided to force the withdrawal of countries who had the worst average results for a period of time. So for Portugal they took part in 1999 but because their average results were one of the lowest, they couldn’t take part in 2000. But in… Read more »

Antonio Fraguas
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Antonio Fraguas

Come on we love Sweden. Its was completre coincidence. The years that we didnt participate was only for lack of money. Only that.

M_K
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M_K

That’s incorrect. Portugal took part in 1975, 1985 and 1992.

blondboybc
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blondboybc

Sweden has already stated its intention to participate next year…why stop when you’re doing well? More like San Marino will be withdrawing, and Russia and Ukraine may be kicked out for 1-3 years for violating EBU rules and playing political gamesmanship–as well they should!

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

I’m almost sure that we’ll not see Russia in Lisbon. They haven’t translated this year’s Eurovision. So there will be serious consequences.

Astana
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Astana

Congratulations Portugal. You deserve it. Record points ever, record 12 points given, unanimously highest score from jury votes and televote from 42 countries with 400 millions people. Beautiful and a hearthbreaking song. Eurovision made history.

Azaad
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Azaad

Suggested jury changes for 2018:

12 person juries
Juries voting on the live broadcast

Ola
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Ola

Would never work! The juries points needs to be counted, secured and assessed…
We would end up having a six hour long show…

Kris
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Kris

I really don’t get what’s the problem with counting the votes of the juries on the night. So it’s easier to count and assess the votes of millions that voted of the night, but it’s some impossible task to make the final ranking of just FIVE people in the jury …

Charles
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Charles

Do you need a job? Ask the EBU to work there … then let us know how it all works and if tasks can be accomplished in just 5 minutes?

Tony
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Tony

Computers do all the work. The problem is logistics. Since the jury voting takes place the day before and the announcement takes 1 hour. It’s more than enough time to count the televotes.
If both jury and public voted the same night. Like Ola mentioned. The show would take 6 hours

DyGh
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DyGh

No, the jury just has to get less power. Placing Belgium that low and in the televotes it rose like phoenix (pun intended). Same with Australia and Austria: they got the lowest points but they didn’t end last which is not really democratic, is it?
I mean, Europe is not the USA where nothing matters and the majority doesn’t count.

Tony
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Tony

It should be. Otherwise only the televoting winners from Germany or UK will count. The votes from Malta will not count for anything

Colin
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Colin

This is a full list of TOP 42 OF ESC 2017 I made. It is approximately the closest I could do to put them all in the one list. For countries that competed in both the semi and the finals I counted the higher of two scores: 1. Portugal – 758 pts 2. Bulgaria – 615 pts 3. Moldova – 374 pts 4. Belgium – 363 pts 5. Sweden – 344 pts 6. Italy – 334 pts 7. Romania – 282 pts 8. Hungary – 231 pt 9. Israel – 207 pts 10. Netherlands – 200 pts 11. Norway –… Read more »

Richardinho
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Richardinho

It’s a real shame that San Marino’s entry was not more appreciated. It’s a beautiful fusion of pure soul an disco, which there is not enough of at Eurovision.

Charles
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Charles

Real disco and real soul is not something Ralph Siegel has any understanding of … and we’re tired of desperate Valentina trying to be another random Kardashian-wannabe.

Richardinho
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Richardinho

Wow – Charles, I feel bad for you having so little understanding of music.

SHAME ON THE EBU
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SHAME ON THE EBU

I am now against the current way the running order for the final is completed. Just as an example, Israel placed 3rd in it’s Semi and 4th in televoting but in the final placed 22nd in both the actual result and televoting! It is absolutely a result of its placing by the producers in the first spot that set it up to fail. A completely randomized draw is necessary for a fair contest. It is basic statistics, a randomized layout reduces bias, plain and simple. SHAME ON THE EBU!!

Hila
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Hila

I agree withe every single word that you wroth!!

Steve
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Steve

Agree

Charles
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Charles

Wroth? Is that a verb? Semantics please …

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

Let’s start a petition with a.o. this issue.

Mike
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Mike

Absolutely randomized list would cause crap show – if 6-7 ballads would be put together, people would change the channels because of boredom. The way it is now is fair in my opinion. Israel got much better scores in Semifinal because his performance was better. In Final he was much much worse and 1/3 of a song under the tone.

jury more biased than televote
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jury more biased than televote

Ballads are not all the same, up-tempo songs are not all the same, I want random order. I’m not afraid of the same genre back to back, because each song is unique.

Charles
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Charles

Which also means televoters have not musical interests which for me makes this whole issue far more concerning … How can I trust a fair televoting score if the viewers at home are not willing to LISTEN to the songs … and just want some bs uptempo crap to keep them entertained and drunk? Come on … we gotta be better than that … this is not the Junior crap!

gili
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gili

I agree with mike…IMRI from israel had terrible final performance comoared to the semi, thats why he got 23 place..he could finish top 10 if he delivered like in the semu. Feel sorry for him, he looked very nervous to perform first and just froze

orly?
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orly?

You do realize, that in the two years before that, Slovenia and Belgium who went first got results that fit with their semi final performance? Slovenia placed 4th or 5th, and received 14th. Belgium placed 3rd and received 10th place. They both went first in the final. While yes, it may of hurt them some, it certainly did not kill them. As for Imri, chalk it up to a terrible vocal performance and staging that Cyprus did better. In the semis, Imri didn’t have Cyprus to compare to and sounded much better in general. Imri was off key and failed… Read more »

jury more biased than televote
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jury more biased than televote

”hurt them, but not kill them” ?

Is not fair when your faith is decided by a person, is more ok to know you just had bad luck.

Margot
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Margot

He had the exact same running order as Laura Tesoro from Belgium last year, who came 3th in the semi final and 10th overall, so don’t blame the running order.

Tris
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Tris

I was looking at the the detailed results. I know (F.Y.R) Macedonia was going to get slaughtered by the juries but I can’t believe Jana didn’t get enough from the televotes – ranked at no. 13. I thought she will be at least top 5 in the televotes. I guess people didn’t like the “live” version, which I can understand as I thought the filter was sort of providing dodgy effects and the staging has let her down. But still happy that we got “Dance Alone” which is technically one of the best tracks from this year’s competition and from… Read more »

jury more biased than televote
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jury more biased than televote

I’m sorry for Manel, I liked everything about Spain this year, and I’m sorry for Levina, she seems so sweet, but I’m not sorry for the German Broadcaster. It had the worst selection. Who choose those 2 songs must never work in the business ever again, I hope some resignations will happen Monday morning.

Europe only
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Europe only

Why australia continue participating in eurovision?

Just Me
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Just Me

Money?

Steve
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Steve

Another country to vote for Sweden constantly and it’s another anglophone country. Actually I’m happy for them. They made some other lazy countries to do revaluations before sending bad-quality singers, whereas Australia brings its A-list performers into this contest.

Az Paynter
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Az Paynter

Jessica in 2014 was A-List (even though she was just the interval act + I didn’t like that song) Guy in 2015 was A-List. Dami was… IDK, B-List at best? The biggest thing she’d ever done before Eurovision was win The X Factor. She wasn’t actually THAT big after her win. Eurovision majorly boosted her profile, but even then her follow-up to ‘Sound Of Silence’ flopped here. Isaiah is D-List at best, he’d only just won The X Factor last year and had virtually nothing going for him. As soon as he was announced as our representative this year I… Read more »

LAHAYANO
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LAHAYANO

Delta Goodrem! Yes!

James Triggs
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James Triggs

I know it’ll never happen, but my dream is for us to send Kylie Minogue.

Problem SBS had this year was that other, bigger artists were approached, but none of them wanted to go after Dami Im.

I think the biggest mistake was sending the song, rather Isaiah the performer. He has a really nice soulful voice, which was rewarded by the juries, but that song …unngh.

Liking it doesn’t come easy.

Grete Paia
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Grete Paia

How big of a joke was the jury? They gave more points to Macedonia and Swiss who is out of tune than to Estonia. Jury is corrupt

DanceAlone
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DanceAlone

I agree that the jury is corrupt, but Estonia sounded 100x more out of tune than Switzerland or Macedonia; Laura’s vocals were not on point. She said she had been ill for the national selection, but her performance in the 2nd semi-final wasn’t any better.

Charles
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Charles

Which also means … she’s NOT a great singer … everything else are just bs excuses …

Steve
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Steve

Azerbaijani jury gave 12 points to Belarus because the latter’s dictator illegally extradited blogger Alexandr Lapshin to Azerbaijan. The blogger critisicied Azerbaijani dictator Aliyev after visiting Artzakh. So, he was arrested in Minsk as per other dictator’ request and sent to Azerbaijan. Take out juries, too much politicised voting.

lory
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lory

I thought about this too. Azerbaijan and Belarus Two dictatorships scary countries.those countries dont share freedom values so why they even aloud to praticpate? Naviband so happy all the time they live in denial

Steve
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Steve

Nothing against Naviband. I liked them. But it’s very suspicious to have Belarus almost unanimously ranked so high by the Azeri jury provided there this year there were too many strong contenders. This is the only explanation I could find. And again Azerbaijan is in spotlight of nepotism and corruption. Moreover, I doubt that they received 12 points from Italy in both semis and grand final, since there’s is a TANAP construction issues. Italy’s population opposes this project due to environmental issues. No other reason to rank Doha so high. Don’t get me wrong. She was good and even OGEA… Read more »

Charles
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Charles

You do understand that without Russia … Azerbaijan only had Belarus to give those religious soviet 12 to … Armenia is out of the question, Georgia not in the final and Ukraine … well that would upset their relationship with Russia. So … there you have it … the politics in Eurovision always portrayed by the same countries …

2L
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2L

Once again glad to see Cyprus did much better in the semi despite the constant hate and bashing from the wiwi “experts”, which even in this article fail to mention Cyprus even once, when it was only one point behind Belgium 164/163 and also had equal points with Sweden in the televoting 103. We received the same hate and bashing with John Karayiannis in 2015 who again later on proved to qualify with ease as he was 6th and not 10th as everybody predicted back then and again the same this year. As for the final it seems that its… Read more »

Napaw
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Napaw

I’m just hoping that a real bop will win next year and defend the spirit of Eurovision.

Charles
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Charles

real bop? What is that? Naked dancers on stage? Pyrotechnics and LEDS? Another big fancy drag queen? No musical content? Eurovision as a comic parodic TV show? Is that your definition of Eurovision? …. Mother of God … Is this primary school all over again or a Peter Pan syndrome?

Napaw
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Napaw

You must be fun at parties.

Héctor
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Héctor

My god, I was writing a long post about this, but my phone just white out! F**K. I will try to remember what I wrote… About SF1: – Australia was really overrated, 2nd is too high for an average song and a bland performance (maybe Isaiah was flawless on the jury show). The televote got it rigth. Maybe Australia won’t qualify one of these years if they follow this way. Australia is no more a sure qualifier. – Latvia LAST???WHAT? I’m dying. This is so unfair. I can understand the jury because her live wasn’t the best, but the televote??… Read more »

2L
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2L

Cyprus would have qualified even without Greece and Armenia supporting it. Do your math correctly next time

Charles
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Charles

That’s because Thomas G:son copy pasting musical techniques always works on his behalf … a formula that works just can not be changed …. it’s a pity Rag N Bone did not complaint about it .. but anyway …

Geert Schoups
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Geert Schoups

Excellent post! Well done in overthinking and analysing.

Daniel D
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Daniel D

Hector it seems u have a real issue with Australia alone? Is it because EBU invited the country for the past 3 years and you feel very irritated about it? Or is it maybe because we did a lot better than your own country?

Héctor
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Héctor

No! I like Australia as a country, but it’s a fact it has been overrated by the juries during this 3 years. I hate when a country is praised no matter what they send (Russia, Sweden, Australia,…). ‘Don’t come easy’ is my favourite Australian entry, Dami’s live last year was impressive, but didnt deserved that place.

By the way, I like the more countries possible participating, so I’m happy with Australia singing in Eurovision, as I would be happy with Kosovo, Lietchestein, Kazakhistan, etc.

Lynda
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Lynda

I don’t understand how can anyone choose a bad song over bad performance.
Agree with you, especially about Latvia, Finland, Cyprus and Greece, Norway, Macedonia, San Marino. Belgium was my top song of the competition.
This 50/50 system just doesn’t work (is it there just for increasing the tension and excitement?). Either have “experts” score, or listen to the crowds favouritrs. This way no one is happy.

Maniac
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Maniac

I am so thankful to people of Europe , we finished 13th , that is a great result , people hated Jacques so much for nothing , and he shut the fck up all of them , WELL DONE JACQUES , YOU ARE MY HERO , I NEVER DOUBT IN YOU

AngieP
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AngieP

1st semi: There’s again the gap in Astralia’s result! 2nd with the juries? And 15th with the televote. The qualification of Australia was basically juries’s choice. Another gap was Czech Republic’s 7th place (juries) and last place (televotes). Montenegro is 11th with the televote? Wow. G reece was a borderline qualifier. Cyprus 5h with the televote? That’s really impressive! Well done to them! The two countries were also tied with the juries with 61 points, but Cyprus had a bigger televote support. Let me talk about Finland at this point. I expected them to be borderline. My absolute shocker of… Read more »

D
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D

It’s times like these where I both love and hate the juries

Love – They prevented the atrocious Estonian song from qualifying, and also boosted Denmark into qualification.
Hate – They prevented Finland from qualifying and also shot Australia into the top ten, when they didn’t even deserve qualification (or participation, but that’s another story).

Kingdom of Hayastan
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Kingdom of Hayastan

Armenians are not Gypsies. Borat is not Armenian but Kazakh. Armenians are not trolls they are a good diaspora working in the media, banks, management across the world. Armenians are Whites and Aryans. Armenia is the mother of Europe. Russians and Ukrainians are Mongols. Israel and Turkey are not Europe. Azerbaijan is Negroid and not Europe, they herd a sheep, sell vegetables and fruits, work in cotton plantations.
Armenians are 1st Genocide of 6,5 millions dead. Armenians are 1st Christians. You are all children of King Hayes Hayastan 5000 B.C. See Bible.

lory
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lory

What israel has to do with your comment???

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

What’s wrong with you?

Raz
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Raz

They are jalous of armenia because artsvik is the best singer and best beatiful best song. Real winner is HAYASTAN. Everybody knows first people in world is armenian everybody is armenian in the beginning they are jalous 2018 yerevannnn hayyyastaannnn

Tony
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Tony

What the hell is Hayastan?

LAHAYANO
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LAHAYANO

Jealous of Armenia?

Why on Earth would we be jealous of Armenia?

Ant
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Ant

Lol

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

Looks like trolls from a certain country.

Siran
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Siran

You are troll a real troll. You are azeri. You know armenia is winner never say troll again you are!!!!

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

Ffs shut up.

Wiwi please delete this disaster. This is not normal.

Steve
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Steve

If you go deep in English phrasing of this provocator, you can understand his native language must be Azeri Turkic. Armenians do not have this kind of English phrasing. So, don’t take him seriously. It’s another troll like the stupid one striking his bum to the camera. That was even more fun, than this helpless Morton on here. Greetings from Armenia.

LiGhts
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LiGhts

I’m an azerbaijanian and my english is quite good. Azerbaijanians know english quite good. It is not something polite to claim somebody like that. Greetings from Azerbaijan, peace out!

LiGhts
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LiGhts

*to blame

Mary
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Mary

If you are Armenian, then answer to my post. Du apushi mekn es, vor espisi eshutyun es grel. Yete hay es, hayeren bacatri gratsid imaste. Uxexit tsalqere ashxatacru, u xostovani vor hay ches.

Karap
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Karap

azeri fake like always everywhere. pathetic LOL

ZC
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ZC

Im portuguese and im very happy that our song won.
I dont like Salvador personality. But Eurovision is not an miss simpaty contest.
We had, by far, the best song and the best interpretation, and that is what really matters. Both jury and televote ranked us first ( televote was a surprise to me). Parabéns Portugal e parabéns Salvador.

lory
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lory

That is your opinion, i find his song boring and his act idiotic with his weird faces

kilaude
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kilaude

And that is your opinion, Iory, which I find snobish and pretentious.

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

Indeed. I’m now almost sure that the Portuguese have deliberately delayed his arrival in Kiev, knowing that he could spoil it all for Portugal just by expressing his controversial opinions a.o. that barely concealed disgust about Eurovision. He is a strange character but in the end we should be concentrating on song, voice and performance, not on his arrogance, pretty doubtful points of view about how the ESC songs should be, or about those who he called the ‘refugees escaping death’.
Well, he is also naive.

Jana
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Jana

So you don’t believe he have an illness…because he won? Really?
He has an illness! Or you never saw how “big” his belly seems to be?
It’s amazing how many people see “honesty” as “arrongance”….Maybe a singer shouldn’t have an opinion…
And he already wanted to talk about the refugees before eurovision, he talked about that on a TV show more than a week before going to kiev

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

I never said that he was pretending to be ill.

Miked
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Miked

Belgium deserved so much better from the juries !!!
Semi final : 13
Final : 10
Televotes : 4 !
They were afraid coz it was the best song so far. That’s not fair and the jury need to be neutral.

Mark Beckenbreur
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Mark Beckenbreur

She deserved, as said one of the youtube commenters – the karaoke bar.
Blanche should be staying in the semi.

LAHAYANO
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LAHAYANO

Taste is subjective, I understand that is hard for you to comprehend.

lory
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lory

Portugal singer didint desurve to win.He is so arrogant and what the hell was the annoying faces he did during the voting???? He made fun of the pepole who vote for him.And also his first reaction to the winning was to trush other songs instead of say thank you.he and his sister two ugly pepole think they are something speical well they not.

Zaffina
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Zaffina

F.Y.R.O.M juries ranked Greece 26th place and in their televoting it was rank 12. Demy wasn’t that bad to be in 26th place. As you can see all juries are influenced by politics. Best thing to do to make ESC better is to remove the juries. Some ppl are mentioning that Greece/Cyprus are exchanging votes and i have to say that does not always happen (both countries have same taste, check 2015 both countries gave 12 points to Italy) and many Cypriots live in Greece so i bet they vote for their song aswell.

Eld
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Eld

Well, Greece was bad man …

Leaf
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Leaf

First of all you don’t recognize our existence, second of all you don’t recognize our language, third of all you’ve never given us ANY points while we have given you points plenty of times.
Your song was not good and our juries ranked it accordingly, It wasn’t last with everyone like the Azeri and Armenian case.
Best u did was 21st.
Which is overrated still in my opinion.
If a country you don’t recognize doesn’t give u points …. You shouldn’t be mad at all cause in your reality we don’t exist so It’s all fine.

Zaffina
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Zaffina

and i got a political answer….the only problem with Greece and F.Y.R.O.M is that we don’t want you to be called Macedonia because Macedonia is in Greece, just give yourselves another name and i bet we won’t mind. Idk if we have given you points or not but maybe we didn’t like your songs? mostly our votes (from televoting) go to countries that are in top 10. The main subject is that juries destroy ESC, i’m not mad or anything but there were worse songs than ours and i wanted to show the difference between juries(26th)-televoting(12th) the same country giving… Read more »

Helene
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Helene

Macedonians didn’t name their land Macedonia, Tito did. Is it so strange that after being called Macedonia for 45 years, the people kept the same name after independence? Macedonia has no designs on Greek territory or any group of peoples in Greece. Would Greece be satisfied if Macedonia changed its name to Troy (or Sparta or Hellas or Atlantis)?

jj
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jj

Parts of Macedonia were taken by Bulgaria and Greece, and the South Slavs in the Macedonian part of Greece were ethnically cleansed, in some kind of deal with Tito, and sent up to refugee camps in northern Serbia. Now the parts absorbed into Bulgaria and Greece were freed of the Ottomans by Greek and Bulgarian forces, yet it is the part the Serbian army freed by the Ottomans which is the Macedonia or fyrom today. It is strange how Macedonians spit on Serbs despite them having what they do because of the Serbs. It is the Greeks and Bulgarians who… Read more »

Leaf
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Leaf

We’ve given you points though
Kalomira, Helena, Sakis etc
Maybe the political answer is due to the fact that you vote in a political way you haven’t given us a point through 17 entries.
But exchanging 12s with Cyprus isn’t political.
Pleaseeeeee
That seems more political to me.

Zaffina
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Zaffina

i don’t say that our juries aren’t political but at least not always? When Turkey was taking part in ESC we were giving them points even if we haven’t the best relations. My opinion is that ESC needs to get rid of the juries, they call themselves professionals but in the end what they do is unprofessional. It would be better if they let only the televoting decide the winner…unless they “change” the results of the televoting in the end. They should let the people decide the winner rather than downvoting other countries so their country can have more chances… Read more »

Leaf
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Leaf

Also
It wasn’t just our jury that didn’t give your points or just our televote.
We usually vote for the top 10 as well.

LAHAYANO
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LAHAYANO

I really don’t understand the problem.

I come from the Netherlands and we share our southern border with Belgium. Belgium is Latin for ‘Netherlands’. We both have provinces called Brabant and Limburg. A small part of Flanders is Dutch. Yet we have none of the bickering the Greeks and Macedonians have. Perhaps it’s time to grow up and forget your petty nationalisms?

Leaf
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Leaf

Listen
the thing is that the issue here is why we didn’t give them points …… And yet they didn’t receive any points from 30
or more countries.
It’s not like they were doing amazingly well to be angry why we skipped their song.
Last with juries and 12th with televote. That’s pretty objective.
So … No issue here whatsoever

Zaffina
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Zaffina

wow all this talk and you still think that the issue is that you didn’t give us points? so i’ll have to say it again….i wanted to show the difference between televoting and juries 12th and 26th place equals 14 spots away. Which means 2 things: 1. Televoting has bad taste and Juries that are pros know what they are doing OR 2. Televoting is judging objectively and Juries are voting politically I never accused you for not giving us points. I just trust more the televoting than the juries. It’s your choice to give your points to whoever you… Read more »

Leaf
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Leaf

But you could have picked a better example.
There were other countries drawing this is love down their ranks.
Objectively speaking our jury points included Portugal – 10 and Bulgaria – 12.
Which was the actual top 2.
We were pretty objective I guess.

otter
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otter

ugggh I thought Armenia would score higher

Franco
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Franco

Finland losing the qualification because of the juries is a bloody crime.
I am for axing them for good.

Robert
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Robert

The jury is hilarious. I have noticed that in the semi the jury from Australia gave 12 pts to Poland and placed Moldova and Portugal behind. What happened in the final? The Australian jury put Poland behind Moldova and Portugal even though earlier Poland was their number one. As I remember 3 jury members put her 1st in the semi. Is it professional? I think they should take the quality into consideration and such behaviour is amateurish. People sitting in front TV could vote like that and change their minds but not professionals. Especially, when the performances are still the… Read more »

Flynn
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Flynn

Same thing happened last year with Ukraine, a lot of juries gave Ukraine low points in semi and then placed them above Australia when it came to grand final.

beccaboo1212
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Only one point for San Marino? That’s awful! 🙁
Well, at least it’s better than the dreaded nul points! 🙂