The semi-final allocation draw is underway in Rotterdam. Today is the day which truly begins to shape the landscape of the Eurovision season. We’ll learn which countries will sing in each semi-final of Eurovision 2020 and also which semi-finals the Big Five and The Netherlands will be voting in.

Eurovision 2020 semi-final allocation draw stream

Although we won’t know the running order or many of the competing songs for some time, speculation is well and truly underway.  That’s because the semi-final allocation draw can offer some clues as to who may or may not qualify. It allows fans to begin to point out historical voting patterns to determine how certain countries may fare this year.

It also allows delegations to begin to plan their time in the host city and notifies broadcasters about which dates their countries will be performing on.

The pots for the semi-final allocation draw were unveiled last week. There were some slight changes from last year, most notably a reduction in the number of pots from six to five. The pots are based on countries with similar voting patterns in the last 15 years.

The semi-final draw also includes the transfer of the host city insignias. Deputy Mayor of Tel Aviv, Zippi Brand Frank, was on scene to pass on the keys to Ahmed Aboutaleb, Mayor of Rotterdam.

When do the Big Five and The Netherlands vote?

Semi-final 1

  • Italy
  • Germany
  • The Netherlands

Semi-final 2

  • France
  • United Kingdom
  • Spain

Eurovision 2020 semi-final allocation draw:

Semi-final 1

First half

  • North Macedonia
  • Belarus
  • Lithuania
  • Sweden
  • Slovenia
  • Australia
  • Ireland
  • Russia

Second half

  • Norway
  • Cyprus
  • Croatia
  • Azerbaijan
  • Malta
  • Israel
  • Ukraine
  • Romania
  • Belgium

On first glance, this year’s draw has offered up a rather open field. The first semi-final contains both Australia and Ukraine — the only remaining countries with perfect qualification records. Regular qualifiers Russia, Azerbaijan and Sweden are also present.

Azerbaijan will benefit from being drawn away from Armenia for the first time since 2015, while Ukraine and Russia may divide the Eastern European vote. There is also a strong Balkan influence here, with three of the four competing ex-Yugoslav countries in this semi-final.

Two of the bookmakers’ early favourites will perform in the first half of the first semi-final, with Italy also voting in this semi-final. If they are to be believed, we may have our eyes on the favourites early. With the exception of Switzerland and the automatic qualifiers, all of last year’s Top 9 countries are competing in this semi-final. This may suggest that semi-final 1 may be the tougher on paper.

Semi-final 2

First half

  • Austria
  • Moldova
  • Poland
  • San Marino
  • Serbia
  • Iceland
  • Czech Republic
  • Greece
  • Estonia

Second half

  • Denmark
  • Bulgaria
  • Switzerland
  • Finland
  • Armenia
  • Latvia
  • Georgia
  • Portugal
  • Albania

You could argue that the field is also rather open in the second semi-final. Greece and Moldova will be without their most loyal allies in the form of Cyprus and Romania respectively. Serbia are also rather isolated as the only former Yugoslav country in this semi-final, but they do have neighbours Bulgaria, who return after a one year hiatus.

On the other hand, Estonia will be pleased to be joined by both Finland and Latvia. Armenia will benefit from being away from Azerbaijan as well, and are also joined by neighbours Georgia. Portugal will be pleased to have Spain voting in this semi-final.

There is also a strong central European contingent here. Austria, Switzerland, Poland and Czech Republic are all in the second semi-final.

Producers will release the exact running order based on this draw after all the songs have been released. This announcement usually comes in late March or early April.

What do you make of the semi-final allocation draw? How does the draw help or hinder your country? Let us know in the comments below.

Read more Eurovision 2020 news here

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Rob
Rob
4 years ago

Lots of working to do for every presenter. But since it’s early stage, they might make the most of it – fingers crossed.

My team would have been totally different, but sInce this is it, we should them all the best wishes and much luck! I hope they all shine and come out victorious! <3

Ted
Ted
4 years ago

Saw a quote on twitter saying that the winning song has been in the same semi in which the UK has voted in for the past 9 years. Not sure if that’s correct as i’ve not fact checked. Wiwi?

Tom
Tom
4 years ago
Reply to  Ted

Its true i think, so maybe CZ, Iceland or Portugal will win

Ted
Ted
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom

I would take a long guess at Swizerland as I have loved the past 2 entries. They are upping their game each year. Possibly France too if we are including the big 5 in this voting semi.
I know we need to hear the songs, but this is just fun!

Ernest Chelmsford
Ernest Chelmsford
4 years ago

Bye bye Australia! Your national selection this year sucks. So glad we’ll have them out of the final this year and have a TRUE Eurovision Grand Final. Hopefully after 2023 they’ll get booted out of the competition too. They’ve overstayed their welcome for far too long.

David
David
4 years ago

Hater.. Hoping for someone to get booted!
why don’t you say the same for Azerbaijan or Israel

Be nice for once in your life

Dennie
Dennie
4 years ago

I would have said it in a different way, but I agree. Australia shouldn’t be in eurovision.

Vic
Vic
4 years ago

Form the bits I saw, very competent show and presenters. I am so glad that the Tel-Aviv horror is finally over. Never saw such a country that thinks is the greatest without anything to show for it…

NscoN
NscoN
4 years ago

Italy was drawn first: it’s a clear sign from the heaven.

Robert
Robert
4 years ago
Reply to  NscoN

Yes probably to become the FIRST runner up again…. HA

Kim
Kim
4 years ago

Don’t get too excited yet saying Australia will qualify. So far the first 6 songs in the NF are very average with no real stand outs . Wait until the national finals to say is we are going to qualify .

Darren
Darren
4 years ago
Reply to  Kim

It’s Australia…..that is all.

Ashton Schier
Ashton Schier
4 years ago
Reply to  Kim

lessons of love is really good. Vanessa can hit those notes live, it’s perfect jury bait, so it comes down to staging.

Pineaple
Pineaple
4 years ago

I can’t believe people are genuinely arguing over a draw. Come on guys its not that serious. If a country has a standout song it will qualify, no matter its placed.

On paper Semi Final 1 certainly is a battle of the big guns, but remember what happened in 2018, Russia didn’t qualify, Azerbaijan didn’t qualify… these countries can have off years so there is no point writing off countries like Croatia or Ireland just yet.

I’m looking forward to seeing how it all plays out 🙂

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
4 years ago
Reply to  Pineaple

2018 was such a disaster for Russia. I am glad that did not qualify.

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

They’re usually so tight with staging and vocals. It was like a bad national final entry, not a country coming off a third place finish.

Elise
Elise
4 years ago

Seems like I’ll have to watch both semi finale this year then ?

Darren
Darren
4 years ago

Why why why is all the heavy hitters always placed in the same god damn semis.
Underdogs in Semi 1 are DOA.

Countries like Ireland shouldn’t even bother.

Australia, Ukraine, Sweden, Russia, Azerbaijan, Norway already in.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Darren

In that case: How could Israel with 0 Neighbours won then 4 times? and Portugal with one won to? That seems very strange both could that if everything is already decided. So i dont agree. Ireland have to step it up. That poor girl in 2019 could not even sing live so what do Ireland expect….

Darren
Darren
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

The first 3 times where different times, the 4th time, the song was big in the fandom. You can’t use Israel as an example here.
Portugal has clearly been a one-off.
The same countries have ended up in the same semis consistently. The same countries are thrown into the group of death all of the time, while other countries get a easy ride in the weaker semi, ALL THE TIME.

LawStudent
LawStudent
4 years ago
Reply to  Darren

This response makes no sense to me. Both Israel and Portugal and the Netherlands in the last three years all prove that if you have a good song you will win. This has absolutely nothing to do with geopolitics, neighboring support, historical voting records, statistical analysis, and betting odds If you are a small country or if you get stuck in the semi of death and you’re unsure about what to do — here’s your answer: do the one thing that always work, choose a good song and a good artist and a good staging, and you will win.

Darren
Darren
4 years ago
Reply to  LawStudent

It’s not even about winning it’s about being given an equal chance at just a mere qualification like other countries get.

Bart
Bart
4 years ago
Reply to  Darren

All countries have the same chance.

Vic
Vic
4 years ago
Reply to  Darren

What grounds do you have to say that Portugal was a one-off? How can you tell? Why do you put that country so much down? It’s like for the Netherlands. The last time they won was 1975!!! But yet they won again.

Darren
Darren
4 years ago
Reply to  Vic

@Vic considering they only won 1 time in the previous 50 years of participating, then instantly went back to NQing, it is so far a one off. No comparison to Netherlands who have won many. Hardly putting the country down when it’s a fact at the moment. I loved Lisbon 2018 and I like their entries usually so I’m happy to be proven wrong. @Bart I don’t agree. Ireland (among others) is always thrown into the group of death with about 8 sure fire qualifiers, meanwhile other countries (like Greece and Serbia among others) go into the easier more open… Read more »

Darren
Darren
4 years ago
Reply to  Darren

I also think many of you picked me up wrong. My first comment isn’t even about the eventual winner, I believe that can be anyone in the final 25, however my issue is with the running order and participation of the semis. It’s made easier for the same group of countries to qualify all of the time, and made harder for others.

Darren
Darren
4 years ago
Reply to  Darren

Okay @Una So, take Ireland for example. We don’t send enough quality to actually win the thing, but we don’t actually send the worse songs either, (2009, 2015 for example would have qualified) Ireland seems to always land in a semi final where it will struggle to qualify, regardless of what they send, usually being placed in a semi alongside heavy hitters like Russia, Sweden, etc etc you know the countries I’m talking about. Meanwhile in the other semis, it seems more open and a country like Ireland, sending the kind of songs that we send would probably qualify. I’m… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
4 years ago
Reply to  Darren

Your whole argument seems dependent on “heavy-hitters” like Sweden, Ukraine, Russia sending quality songs and Ireland sending weak songs. I agree it will probably be tough for Ireland to qualify, but that’s because they will probably send a weak song. All they have to do to even out the balance is to rise to the level of the other countries.

Darren
Darren
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonas

@Jonas we all know that it’s not just that simple. And yes I refer to the heavy hitters because let’s not lie, these are going through regardless. I just think the semi final allocation is very unfair and favour some countries more than others. It’s easy to say we don’t know yet because we haven’t heard the songs, or underdog countries just need to up their game, at the end of the day, some countries are favoured and pushed to progress as a result of allocation or just who they are, while others aren’t given half as many chances. I… Read more »

Darren
Darren
4 years ago
Reply to  Darren

I’d be in favor of a 1 by 1 allocation yeah. No pots, put all the countries into one pot and draw from that. 18 countries in a semi, first 18 go into semi 1, the rest in semi 2.
Or
All countries placed in one pot, first picked goes into semi 1, the next into semi 2, third into semi 1 and so on.
The current system doesn’t work and is very unfair to many countries.

Dawid
Dawid
4 years ago

“Open Up! FBI!” Xd

Joe
Joe
4 years ago

Just on who’s in which semi final, on paper, Semi Final 1 definitely looks like the tougher semi final, particularly with the likes of Australia, Azerbaijan, Russia, Sweden and Ukraine all in the same semi. But we don’t know the songs yet, so anything can happen this year. Looking forward to hearing the songs!

Lord Suzy
Lord Suzy
4 years ago

Kinda embarrassing that a lot of comments are about diaspora/neighbour voting.

Serpent
Serpent
4 years ago
Reply to  Lord Suzy

You are from Russia or Lithuania?

zzzaaaa
zzzaaaa
4 years ago

semi1 seems tough, many powerhouses like Sweden, Russia, Ukraine. Very strong Norway, Australia, Romania, Azerbaijan. That’s already 7 very strong Eurovision country nearly always going to the final. And still then we have Cyprus, Belgium. That’s tough.
semi2 seems weaker, only two powerhouses Greek, Serbia. Some very strong countries like Denmark, Bulgaria. But that’s nowhere close semi1. Plus semi2 has historically weakest countries – San Marino and Moldova.

zzzaaaa
zzzaaaa
4 years ago
Reply to  zzzaaaa

forgot that last year Moldova took 3rd place.

An American ESC Fan
An American ESC Fan
4 years ago
Reply to  zzzaaaa

Uh, I think you got your years mixed up there. Moldova came 3rd in 2017 and didn’t even qualify last year.

Philip
Philip
4 years ago

This year’s North macedonia’s singer can be compared to jacque Hodek.. he sings pop and opera.. and will try to repeat tamara’s success.. there is a chance of going with some sort of etno traditional song.. we;ll see in the following couple of days..

Jo.
Jo.
4 years ago

sf1 seems to be the hardest, but let’s see..

Philip
Philip
4 years ago

As for semi 1 we could pretty much assume that Russia, Sweden, Norway, Australia, Ukraine are IN. Cyprus, Romania, Belarus and Azerbaijan can be strong. Belgium and Serbia can pull out something interesting at times. North Macedonia has again a strong singer = jury votes. hmm.. Looks like a blood bath to me. Malta and Israel know how to surprise. I expect Croatia, Slovenia, and Ireland not to pass. Do not get panicky, it is just an observation. Yes we haven’t heard anything yet, I agree, that doesn’t mean we are not allowed to play with imagination and historical patterns.

uzhas
uzhas
4 years ago
Reply to  Philip

I’m confused, because you mentioned some countries from semi 2 as semi final 1 participants?

Philip
Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  uzhas

only Serbia, it is in semi 2, and i forgot lithuania cuz never really left significant impression, otherwise it is good..

Gil Dadia
Gil Dadia
4 years ago
Reply to  Philip

Israel will return very strong this year with Ella Lee.
I expect top 5 for israel this year at least

jack
jack
4 years ago

Serbia need to send Hurricane. I dont think any country is planning to send a girlband. They will stand out.

Esc1234
Esc1234
4 years ago

We still don’t know the songs so we can’t judge. However, the presenters were definitely amazing. Professional and comfortable. Great choice

Gabi
Gabi
4 years ago

Couldn’t agree more about not sending the roop. It’s gonna be an interesting national final for sure.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago

I have always been facinated how the lithuanians abroad always vote like maniacs for Lithuania every year. Can some lithuanian explain why? many of the songs are not even good so i am only facinated by so many votes from Ireland,Norway, UK. Is it a nationlistic thing? I dont get the thing to vote for a bad song to support your country.

Gabi
Gabi
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Maybe it’s you who have a bad taste and don’t think a good song is good. Or you’re from a country where people are not united. Then I feel sorry for you.

Adam
Adam
4 years ago
Reply to  Gabi

Lithuania had the best song in semi-final 2 last year, according to Irish, English and Norweigan televoters.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Adam

but every year its the same. Dont you think thats weird?

Mia
Mia
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

So what, what is your problem actually, you want to order people how to vote?

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mia

so you dont think its weird at all to vote for the same country for 10 years no matter what they send? thats the point what im saying. If you dont think anything is wrong with that. Then thank god we dont have 100% televoting

xohxoh
xohxoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

You don’t seem to mind when juries vote for Sweden every year no matter what they send. I wonder why is that?!

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  xohxoh

You can argue all you want. But you know that John and Benjamin were bops. So thats why. If we sent UK or Belarus songs last year. We would never in a million years be 5th or 7th. you know that to. we have 3000 songs sent to MELFEST. If you have a BIG selection its bigger chance to choose a good one. thats a reason 2.

xohxoh
xohxoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Televote disagree.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  xohxoh

Its only hardcore fans like you who wants Sweden to fail. Normal people dont care about the countrys name if they like a song.

Tom
Tom
4 years ago
Reply to  xohxoh

@xohxoh
Well Sweden at least sending quality POP songs (ok they are also generic in some way, and same but still they are good)what about Lithuania ?? Lithuania had only in 2016, 2018 and Maybe in 2011 good song. The others song were strange and i am honest. ..Sweden don’t have a diaspora as Romania, Russia Turkey, Azerbajdzan, Arm,Poland, or Lithuania …ok Sweden is overateed with jury, but same is Malta and Australia. And guess what Lithuania still never won BUT i must admit this year i like 9 songs from semis so fingers crosted for Monique 🙂

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom

De hatar Namnet Sverige bara. Hade vi hetat Serbien hade de älskat oss. tragiskt men sant.

Serpent
Serpent
4 years ago
Reply to  xohxoh

The jury points still come from people with different nationalities but diaspora points come from your own people. You can’t compare that.

Serpent
Serpent
4 years ago
Reply to  Mia

The problem is that other countries FAIL to qualify because Lithuania qualifies purely thanks to diaspora. It’s really unfair. I’d feel quite bad and embarrassed to vote desperately for my own country every single year. Russia of course gets even more diaspora points but they at least have good songs usually. But Lithuania is usually one of the weakest of the year and their diaspora pushes them to televote top10, whereas the country who comes 11th in the semi final fails. And also the British and Irish people never have a chance to give the most points to their favourite… Read more »

blueeyed
blueeyed
4 years ago
Reply to  Serpent

You’re kidding, right? There are estimated about 150k Lithuanians in the UK. Among 66.5 milion people of other nationalities. And about 50k Lithuanians in Ireland, among around 5 milion people in total. Now tell me how max 200k people can out-vote 71 milion? Your name suits you, you’re spitting nationalistic venom.

Indiana07
Indiana07
4 years ago
Reply to  blueeyed

Lithuanian diaspora seems to be very active. I mean… absolutely every year 12 points from the UK, Ireland, usually from Norway too

Fleth
Fleth
4 years ago
Reply to  Adam

Yeah because they have loads of Lithuanians living in those respective countries. They want their own countries to win so they vote for themselves, it’s as simple as that.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Fleth

I will NEVER understand how they are thinking. im just not like that at all.

Serpent
Serpent
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

They’re just simple and desperate. Do they really hope that people won’t notice that those televote points to Lithuania come from Lithuanians themselves?

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Gabi

So whats the point then to have a contest if you are ALWAYS voting the same every year anyway? Then ESC dont need to even exist. The stuff about united people is just stupid.

Ugnius
Ugnius
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Well, Rasmus, you support Sweden like a maniac in every wiwibloggs article where Sweden/Melfest is mentioned, so it’s basically the same 😉

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ugnius

no the diffrece is i would never vote for Sweden if i didnt like the song.

xohxoh
xohxoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Suuure. Be scared tho, Sweden is next, Lithuanians are on their way. Soon Lithuanian diaspora will conquer all of the Europe and they will rule the contest. Mwahahahaha.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  xohxoh

isnt that sad if that happens? i would think that. i dont like diaspora voting

zzzaaaa
zzzaaaa
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

yep, I am a Lithuanian and I can confirm that’s a nationalistic thing.
Eurovision here is taken quite(almost very) seriously. It’s very popular.
It’s just the way it is. I guess that is because Lithuania felt(still feels) a bit forgotten in Europe, a small quite poor country in the fringes of Europe and especially in the past Eurovision became one of the only ways to showcase ourselves to Europe. I guess that’s why this competition is taken so seriously even until now. Psychologists would say that’s a lack of self-confidence on our part.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  zzzaaaa

I see. but i dont really know why they were so exited for Fuesmarc or last years entry. But its there money so. I hope Lithuania needs more then 3 countrys to qualify.

Fan
Fan
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Hard to say. Probably patriotism. Actually there are only ~36k Lithuanians in Ireland, ~45k in Norway. I have no idea how such numbers can fate Lithuania being in top 10 every year in those countries. Every Lithuanian should vote 😀

xohxoh
xohxoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

The same way you’re such a maniac for Sweden and anything Swedish.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  xohxoh

I dont get why your mad at me? I just wondered why the lithuanias vote for the same every year even when they DONT like their song. I dont controll 42 jury groups with 5 persons in each. If they want to vote for Sweden they can. Its really hard to choose a bad song when we have 3000 sent to us.

xohxoh
xohxoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Who told you that they don’t like their song, clearly they do if they vote for it. Oh poor you, damn those Lithuanians, as if other countries don’t benefit from diasporas and neighbor voting. Lithuania’s biggest achievement 6th place 14 years ago, they have qualified to the final 8 times out of 16, and you’re so worried about Lithuanian diaspora, lmao.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  xohxoh

im not worried about it. I just think its boring that Uk,Norway,Ireland give their 12 points to Lithuania EVERY year. Even to Fusedmarc…. that bothers me.

xohxoh
xohxoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Well i think it’s boring that Sweden gets to qualify every year with their trash, generic songs, but am i complaining? And just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it bad. Fusedmarc won the televote in Lithuania, is it really that hard to imagine that people with the same mentality would vote for them? Lithuanian diaspora is so strong and big that they didn’t even qualify, lmao, and neither did Jurijus last year. And in fact they didn’t qualify 8 out of 16 times. Where’s the benefit? They have reached top 10 only 2 times out of 20 and… Read more »

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  xohxoh

I cant discuss wiht you if you think Sanna,Robin, benjamin, John were trash entrys…. thats sad to hear you say that becasue everyoen can hear they are not

Serpent
Serpent
4 years ago
Reply to  xohxoh

Lithuania and Russia benefit way more from diaspora voting than other countries.

xohxoh
xohxoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Serpent

Lithuania benefits so much that they are one of the worst scoring countries in the competition, lmao.

Serpent
Serpent
4 years ago
Reply to  xohxoh

but they would have much lower scores without their massive diaspora. They should’ve been NQ-s in 2018 and have lower places in the grand final in 2016, 2013, 2011, 2015 etc

xohxoh
xohxoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Serpent

Um, 2018 is one of their best entries, so is 2016… If you’re doing this revision, do it for everyone. Stay pressed tho. I low-key wish that Fusedmarc had qualified so y’all could fume more.

Polliu
Polliu
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Maybe due to the economic failure, they need to find something to stay together and show how they love their country.

Mia
Mia
4 years ago
Reply to  Polliu

Rasmus, you’re like the broken record. You want rational explanation for irrational things, that’s impossible. People love their country, simmple as that, nationalist tend to support country, gays tend to support gays, then there’s teen audience, senior audience, hipster audience, conservative audience, rock audience, random viewers who usually go for the most flashy performance, etc., etc. We have juries who suppose to be objective but in the end they are human also and go after their views and feelings, politics also included. Which song do you like is highly subject thing because it’s based on people feelings. But in the… Read more »

xohxoh
xohxoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mia

Exactly.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mia

then i dont think eurovosion should exist no more if everyone voted for themself. Lokk at Poland in JESC. Poles votes like crazy for Poland. Do you want that ? I cant argue with a a such nationlistic person like you. its no point

xohxoh
xohxoh
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Everyone been voting like that since forever, get over it. It ain’t changing anytime soon. If you want to complain about something, complain about Russia having like 100 free points with their diaspora.

Bart
Bart
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

So, you would not vote for Sweden if you were watching the contest from another country?

Sergod Legendzarev
Sergod Legendzarev
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Lithuanians love Eurovision, even if some of them are denying that

M.m.mm
M.m.mm
4 years ago

1 ; Sweden, Russia, Ukraine, Australia, Cyprus, Lithuania, Azerbaijan, Romania, Slovenia, Belguim

2: Greece, Bulgaria, Iceland, Serbia, Czech R., Armenia, Estonia, Albania, Poland, Moldova

😀

ESCFanGA
ESCFanGA
4 years ago
Reply to  M.m.mm

We don’t even know all of the songs yet so it makes no sense to predict the qualifiers now

Nick
Nick
4 years ago
Reply to  ESCFanGA

yes we don’t know songs yeat, but there is nothing wrong to guess, just for fun ))

noone
noone
4 years ago

I still don’t know why Gaja Prestor is such a thing to foreigners??? Here on Wiwi everyone is talking about her! I don’t understand why – she is completely unknown in Slovenia, the general public doesn’t know her. Only kids know her from Instagram, she is an influencer and actress. I had to google her, noone over 20 has ever heard of her. Her music is not known or played on radios at all. The big guns are the two mega-stars Tinkara Kovac and Lina Kuduzovic, it will be between these two. On the other hand we have Klara Jazbec… Read more »

Lucas
Lucas
4 years ago
Reply to  noone

I am honestly really hoping for you guys to send the Slovenian Korn aka INMATE they seem to be the most interesting choice in your NF

Jonas
Jonas
4 years ago
Reply to  noone

Don’t underestimate YouTubers or instagram “influencers” just because you may not have heard of them. Bilal should have taught you that lesson.

noone
noone
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonas

Yes, but the Slovene NF works like this: the jury (meaning RTV) chooses 2 super finalists and then the public can vote. If the influencer goes to the public, then yes, she can win. But RTV will never ever let her go to the vote. They will send Tinkara (100%) and then either Lina or the two acts the radios are pushing: Klara or Manca.

Jonas
Jonas
4 years ago
Reply to  noone

They might send her to the final two precisely because of the demographic she reaches. That’s what TV stations obsess about. Still, you’re probably right.

AntonESC
AntonESC
4 years ago

Great hosts. Love them…..

dygh
dygh
4 years ago

Can we also appreciate the artwork? Specifically the stripes when the country appears is weirldy satisfying to me. I love it. I’m a sucker for nice minimalist designs and oh boi I feel like a vampire.

Ron
Ron
4 years ago

More good new for Armenia (besides being in a different semi from Azerbaijan), Armenia just announced the 12 acts competing and some very interesting names:

1. Vladimir Arzumanyan (winner of JESC 2010) returns!
2. Athenia Manoukian is competing – really hope it’s a BOP like XO’
3. Tokionine is competing (composer of Walking Out);
4. Miriam Baghdasaryan is competing – competed in Voice of Canada and was in Lara Fabian’s team

Ashton Schier
Ashton Schier
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron

ooh I really hated XO but I hope she does well anyway 🙂

ESCFanGA
ESCFanGA
4 years ago

I think North Macedonia will struggle because none of their neighbors are voting in their semi. Slovenia could give them some points but I don’t think it’ll be enough. Portugal on the other hand will benefit from its draw because Spain, France, and Switzerland are all voting in its semi and all three of those countries usually give Portugal lots of points.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  ESCFanGA

How can you say that when last year they came 2nd in a semi? and 7th in the final. If they have a great song they wont. They came also 6th in Junior ESC. So they dont struggle anymore

ESCFanGA
ESCFanGA
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Macedonia last year had Albania, Croatia and Switzerland in its semi (all of whom usually vote for Macedonia).
Also Junior Eurovision and Eurovision are two completely separate competitions.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  ESCFanGA

they got votes from almost EVERYONE so i dont believe that anymore:)

ESCFanGA
ESCFanGA
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Those were jury votes. Also there’s no guarantee that Macedonia will qualify and do well this year simply because of last year’s result.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  ESCFanGA

they got a lot of televotes to.

Philip
Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  ESCFanGA

actually u just made the main point. Macedonia figured out all of this and learned that they should go with great singer and try to pick as much as possible jury votes.. which they did for this year again.. they are after the jury votes and whatever comes from the televote will be extra

Philip
Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  ESCFanGA

it would pretty much depend on the song and the staging.. they have selected a great singer, so jury votes quite secured..

Nick
Nick
4 years ago

looks like semi 1 is stronger but we will see, hope my favs Australia, Ukraine and Belgium will qualify from semi 1
Also I really want to see Georgia in the final with a good song)

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Nick

do you have faves BEFORE the songs are out? I dont

Nick
Nick
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

yes I have , I loved almost all their previous songs and i hope they will have good enough songs to qualify again, what is wrong with having favs Eurovision countries ?

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Nick

i thought you meant you meant you are voting for them no matter what song they send. I dont like that but fave countries ofc you can have:). i have to

Nick
Nick
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

yeah, that’s what I meant, lol

Tajikistan
Tajikistan
4 years ago

And sorry to burst the bubble but we’re not winning

Gabi
Gabi
4 years ago
Reply to  Tajikistan

It’s not about winning. Do you really think we could do a great show at Siemens or Žalgiris arena?

Azaad
Azaad
4 years ago
Reply to  Tajikistan

To be honest, the Lithuanian NF is quite good this year. Most of the serious acts would guarantee a qualification at least.

Tajikistan
Tajikistan
4 years ago

Belarus and Russia don’t normally vote for us, mostly our votes are from Latvia. Ireland, Britain and Norway

DripDrop
DripDrop
4 years ago

I predict that Greece will open Semi 2 with Stefania (she will be officially announced next Monday) with her ethno-pop banger

DripDrop
DripDrop
4 years ago
Reply to  DripDrop

Why so many downvotes? I just made a wild guess concerning the running order hahaha

Kate
Kate
4 years ago

so again we in the same semi with Sweden, Australia and Russia.
well, i hope Khayat will win Vidbir this year and we will qualify, good luck to everyone!

Jakub
Jakub
4 years ago

What a pity for my country Poland 🙁 No Ireland, Norway, Germany nor The Netherlands 🙁 It will be very hard for us to qualify to the grand final :/

King Kunta
King Kunta
4 years ago
Reply to  Jakub

if Poland sends Albert, they’ll get Czech Republic points

Skiwalko
Skiwalko
4 years ago
Reply to  Jakub

The truth is that if we have a good song, we’ll go through either way. 2019 was even worse if we’re talking about the countries with big Polish diaspora and we missed the final by only two points. I’m really hopeful about this year, I think we’ve got a format that will likely give us at least a decent place in Rotterdam.

MrBrightside
MrBrightside
4 years ago
Reply to  Jakub

*cough* the UK *cough*

Peter
Peter
4 years ago
Reply to  Jakub

That means you’ll finally need to come up with a good song!

Ted
Ted
4 years ago
Reply to  Jakub

The uk televote always give poland top marks.

Serpent
Serpent
4 years ago
Reply to  Jakub

There was no Ireland, no Germany, no the Netherlands, no the UK voting in SF1 last year but Poland still managed to come the top10 in the televote, so I don’t think it’s very bad for you + Poland has usually good songs.
However the jury never likes Poland so who knows…

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago

Semi 1: Im not impressed with Australias and Norways selections. Romania, Azerbaijan,Russia have missed finals already so i feel its very open for all. I hope Ireland, Slovenia,Croatia have a great song.

Semi 2: Portugal,Georgia,San Marino are the 3 countries i feel that have to step up their game the most if they want to ever qualify again. The others are evolving fast i feel. I hope Latvia sends Samantha Tina and Iceland sends IVA.

Darren
Darren
4 years ago
Reply to  Rasmus

Russia only missed one final, and let’s face it, they wanted to fail that year, Azerbaijan also only 1 year. I wouldn’t exactly call it THAT open.
Only Romania seems to be in a decline at the moment but I’m fully expecting them to return to form this year.

noone
noone
4 years ago

Oww, it’s a big problem for Slovenia. We only qualify when we’re in the same group as Serbia. Serbia is normally the only country that gives us high points and vice-versa. Being in the same group as Croatia and North Macedonia means that Croatia will get SLO and MAC votes and advance, especially if Indira or Colonia will sing. But Croatia never or very rarely gives points to SLO or MAC. Plus all the “automatic qualifyers” are here: Russia, Ukraine, Sweden, Australia, Australia. They are sure things, on the other hand Croatia, Belarus (thanks to Russia) and Cyprus and Norway… Read more »

Leo
Leo
4 years ago
Reply to  noone

I get your concern but i think 2018 proved that there are no safe qualifiers, so don’t worry. We don’t even have the songs yet.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  noone

Dont be sad :). Slovenia have qualified 2 years in a row so its not over yet :). Armenia,Romania have missed finals 2 years in a row and they always qualifies. My country Sweden 1 time so you never know when a country miss. Australia and Ukraine will also miss some time.

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  noone

i agree with that. Their selection is not WOW to me yet.

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  noone

You’ve qualified at least three times with no help from Serbia, as I recall.

Magpie
Magpie
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

2011, 2014, 2015

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago

We are ONE of 17. Get over Sweden. We have missed in 2010. we are no superheroes

Iva
Iva
4 years ago

What about Macedonian chances in this Semi?

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Iva

I hope he has a great opera song or pop song:)

ESCFanGA
ESCFanGA
4 years ago
Reply to  Iva

Not good

Philip
Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  ESCFanGA

neither.. i think macedonia is planning to go with ento vibes..

Andrew
Andrew
4 years ago

I love the hosts! They seem so relaxed and lovely

Fionn
Fionn
4 years ago

My grandparents got married in the same room as it took place

Bigger
Bigger
4 years ago
Reply to  Fionn

In my hometown it is usually free (in the past on mondays, I don’t know whether it’s still the case) to marry in the city hall

Tom
Tom
4 years ago

Does anybody noticed that last country from big 5 and host country was Netherlands( last year winner) then they started allocation draw for semis and the first 2 countries were N. Macedonia (jury winner) and Norway (televote winner) lol

MTD
MTD
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom

Now that you’ve mentioned… LOL

The three big N’s from last year.

Joe
Joe
4 years ago

Also, somebody mentioned below that we’re ballyhooing Greece and Cyprus being split while Finland, Iceland, Estonia, and Denmark are all in the same semi and aren’t they neighbors? Listen, twenty years ago, that might’ve worked to some of their advantages (back in the days when Denmark and Estonia typically did really well, ergo, they’d vote for each other), but it’s not a given that any of them’ll vote for each other. Iceland and Finland typically wind up in the same semi but they’re also the Nordic countries with the farthest distance between each other, and they won’t vote for each… Read more »

blondboybc
blondboybc
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Iceland is NO neighbour of any of those countries.

John Moynahan
John Moynahan
4 years ago

I thought Germany had requested to vote in semifinal 2 as in previous years?
Can anyone explain why they were pulled out in vote in semifinal 1?

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  John Moynahan

I guess they forgot? If they wanted to, Jon Ola would’ve said.

Jonas
Jonas
4 years ago
Reply to  John Moynahan

Jon Ola said there had been no requests this year, and they just randomly got semi-final one in the draw.

Tom
Tom
4 years ago
Reply to  John Moynahan

They got 2 semi randomly last year as well 🙂

Tom
Tom
4 years ago
Reply to  John Moynahan

@whisker i think sometimes they have a different kind of programs at the same date like ESC is 😀 i mean The voice or Idol or i dont know ( previously Switzerland, and Italy also requested)

Sale
Sale
4 years ago

Deputy Mayor keeps talking and talking

Chantal: Speaking of Dare To Dream, I’m
always dreaming of more time in live
television but we don’t have that time

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Sale

I wish they brought back Ron Huldai and his recorder.

Tom
Tom
4 years ago

I can’t believe that Germany FINALLY will be voting in the 1 semi, they last time voted in 1 semi in 2010 lol …Belgium can profite cause they have Holland and Germany +Australia and Sweden in semi …Cz, Ice and Port are finally in 2 semi ..last time they were in 2 semi was in 2015. ….BTW Czech Republic were only 2 time in 2 semi. Also happy about Spain, they last time voted in 2 semi in 2013 .. Fin and Greece are finally in 2 semi they were last time in 2014 in 2 semi. Romania is finally… Read more »

Tom
Tom
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom

I forgot to say Australia and Austria never been in one semi together, its interesting lol

Marvel
Marvel
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom

That way at least no one can confuse them when it comes to voting haha

TheDr Mistery
TheDr Mistery
4 years ago
Reply to  Marvel

At least they’re connected through epic opening of 2017 televoting – “0 points goes to Austria, 2 points goes to Australia”… 😀

Azaad
Azaad
4 years ago
Reply to  TheDr Mistery

As an Aussie I find this hilarious! I would also say Australia debuted in Vienna 2015 so that’s another connection

Lucas
Lucas
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom

Aren’t we gonna talk about how the host country is once again voting in SF1 lol. Russia, Norway, Germany and Ukraine were the only countries who voted in SF2 while hosting the concert

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucas

Yeah, I think Ukraine is the only one in recent years that voted in the second semi.

Tom
Tom
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucas

Yeah its interesting haha

Joe
Joe
4 years ago

Also, Cyprus may not have Greece to save their hides, but don’t forget that Sandro Nicolas got his start on The Voice of Germany, and guess who’s voting in their semi?

Polegend Godgarina
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

iveta mukuchyan was on the voice of germany and she got 2 televote points from them in the final… and she made it much further than sandro nicolas who was axed in the early stages of the competition

Joe
Joe
4 years ago

Huh. Maybe not. But don’t forget it’s also a smaller voting pool in the semi, which could work to his advantage. He might get bypassed in the final (if he makes it that far, who even knows?), but if a guy with German name recognition, mild or not, is in the semi they’re voting in, it doesn’t hurt. (Also, Germany has a large Greek diaspora, and now they can’t vote in Greece’s semi, so those votes have to go somewhere…)

Polegend Godgarina
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

the greek diaspora never bothered with cyprus + it ain’t that big considering greece’s televote points from germany + sandro is pretty much irrelevant in germany

Tajikistan
Tajikistan
4 years ago

That’s not true for the UK – their Greek diaspora is mostly Cypriot so both do well from Britain

Polegend Godgarina
4 years ago
Reply to  Tajikistan

nah, the uk televote gave cyprus: 0 in 2015, 2 in 2016, 0 in 2017, 8 in 2018, 1 in 2019. definitely not a relevant enough diaspora.

Brainafk_Maro
Brainafk_Maro
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

I dont know ??

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Brainafk_Maro

Starts with a “G” and ends in a “y.”

Skiwalko
Skiwalko
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Wait… Is Guernsey a country?

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Skiwalko

Surprise! Meet the 42nd contestant!

sulo
sulo
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Morocco ?

Jonas
Jonas
4 years ago
Reply to  Skiwalko

What is Guernsey’s status actually? The channel islands are technically not part of the UK (right?) so I guess they’re just not represented at all ever? Like the Isle of Man?

Skiwalko
Skiwalko
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonas

The Bailiwick of Guernsey is a self-governing dependency of the British Crown, and thus neither a part of the UK nor the British Overseas Territories. The Channel Islands are not a part of EU, they’re not a member state of the Commonwealth, they’re not even considered sovereign states, but rather “territories UK is responsible for”. It’s a weird case really.

Polegend Godgarina
4 years ago

just noticed sf1 has three ex-yu countries (croatia, macedonia, slovenia) and sf2 only has serbia!

Joe
Joe
4 years ago

Serbia’s still got Switzerland and Austria so it ain’t over for them. (And if they pick whatsherface who almost represented Austria, even better).

miiJo
miiJo
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Yes , but in 2013 all Serbia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Croatia ( plus Austria (diaspora voting)) were in the same sami final, but non of them go to the final 😀

Tom
Tom
4 years ago
Reply to  miiJo

They had bad songs actually, well apart from Montenegro

Lucas
Lucas
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom

What really sucks is that Montenegro would have qualified with the new system

Polegend Godgarina
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucas

we still don’t know the split points from 2013 lol it’ll always stay a mystery

Lucas
Lucas
4 years ago

But we know the placement each country got with Jury and Televote. Montenegro got second last with juries but 4th with televote which would in theory qualify them with the new system.

Egle
Egle
4 years ago

Yayy Estonia has Latvia ja Finland our dear neighbours :)) And Georgia (we could send our Georgia song lol). Poor Ukraine has to be in same semifinal as the bully .. but good for televote maybe…

Gabi
Gabi
4 years ago
Reply to  Egle

Jeez, it’s not that Ukraine and ‘the bully’ (maybe they should change the country’s name) cannot be in the same room. What if they both play in the final? Oh no, poor Ukraine… lol

Sabrina
Sabrina
4 years ago

Knowing just one song, I won’t dare pointing one semi as stronger than the other. What I can say for now is that I loved the broadcasting. The hosts were great, they spent just the right amount of time with each segment and it was very nice to see former winners talking about their running order. The Netherlands are doing a great job so far and I trust they will deliver one of the best contests ever.

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Sabrina

And not recent winners, either! The most recent of them was Jorgen Olsen and he won twenty years ago. They know their history!

Jonas
Jonas
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

They obviously gathered them together when they were in Amsterdam to perform at Het Grote Songfestivalfeest. Lenny got hers wrong, though – she was actually 8th, not 3rd…

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonas

I figured as much. I do believe one of the winners performed third though (I think Spain?)

Jonas
Jonas
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Yeah, Spain. Ireland 1994 was third too, so Lenny was right, it can happen!

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonas

And Monaco in 1971. Four of the last six winners were drawn in the first half, so who knows?

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Sabrina

It also made me happy seeing the former winners reacting to the moments where they won. Niamh looked giddy all over again. (It’s also worth pointing out that Izhar and Katrina owe at least one of the top marks that led to their victory to the Netherlands).

Jonas
Jonas
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Katrina was a little dismissive of the other entries, I thought. The Olsen Brothers were actually 15th, not 17th, so that’s another one that was wrong. If it was recorded at the time of the Amsterdam concert, they could have had Johnny Logan, Linda Martin, Eimear Quinn and Loreen bond over their 17th place wins. All on leap years too, useless-information fans.

Joe
Joe
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonas

Yeah, Johnny performed 17th on both of his winning entries, then Linda won with one of his songs! Must be a lucky number.

Sabrina
Sabrina
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

They got a nice mix of countries too. I think it was the first time I’ve seen Nicole out of her Eurovision performance.

hi yall
hi yall
4 years ago

Irelands really going to have to send Una or Aimee to qualify. Also if Armenia send Athena M, Armenia 12 points?

Fan From Texas
Fan From Texas
4 years ago

My initial reaction is the draws to be better balanced this year without a typical semifinal of death. We still need to have all the songs decided but I think it’s going to be a wide open contest this year. I have only heard one song this year from one of the National final that gives me winner vibes and I haven’t heard it live yet so those winner vibes can go away if the song is not delivered we’ll live.

Thomas
Thomas
4 years ago
Reply to  Fan From Texas

What song is that?

Jonas
Jonas
4 years ago

I will be scared for Anna Bergendahl with Sweden’s position…how awful would it be for history to repeat itself ten years later?

Tom
Tom
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonas

She will not win probably, my swedish roots telling me it will be probably some boy

Rasmus
Rasmus
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom

jag är Svensk med:) Visste inte du var:)

diana
diana
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonas

I’ll be damned if she represents us once again and fails to qualify AGAIN on the tenth anniversary of the worst results ever for us

Tajikistan
Tajikistan
4 years ago
Reply to  diana

Omar Naber 2.0

What would be weirder would be Laura winning in Estonia but failing to qualify for the third time…

Tom
Tom
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonas

@Eurovision fan haha true, but this year there will not be Irish winner who represented ireland in 2010 …