He’ll represent the host nation at Eurovision 2020 in Rotterdam.
And now we know where The Netherlands’ Jeangu Macrooy will perform in the Grand Final.
The “Grow” singer will perform 23rd. The draw was announced at today’s Head of Delegation meeting.
Eurovision host nations draw their spot at random during the meeting. This ensures producers don’t weight the running order to favour their own act.
Jeangu Macrooy to perform 23rd
There is some host nation history with spot 23.
Denmark’s Basim performed in the same spot at Eurovision 2014 and scored a very resectable ninth place. It has produced mixed results since.
Georgia’s Nina Sublatti made it to 11th place in 2015 and Belgium’s Blanche placed in the top five in 2017. On the other hand Nika Kocharov & Young Georgian Lolitaz placed 20th in 2016 and in the two most recent years acts performing 23rd have placed 18th both times.
How Macrooy will perform from the position remains to be seen.
Next steps on the road to Eurovision 2020
Now that all songs have been presented to the EBU and NPO they can begin to decide the running order. While we await the release of all songs publicly, broadcasters have to have presented their songs during today’s Head of Delegation meeting.
While the running order release date varies we can expect news soon. Last year it was released on April 2, in 2018 on April 3 and the year before that on March 31.
Producers will seek to create the best show possible with the running order. That means balancing tempos, styles and performances throughout. Openers tend to be upbeat entries and semi-final closers tend to bring a certain spectacle to the stage.
Once released it will also give our first indication of who will make the final.
Do you think The Netherlands has a good position? Let us know in the comments below!
23rd is a good slot, its odds and how tipped it is to do well is what’s more important. If the betting odds, hype and producers think this is your typical below average host entry, the 22nd and 24th slots will go to the big favourites. If not, it’ll have more of a chance to shine.
Nothing political this year Where have you been ? Brexit , the uk deserve points this year , however , I don’t think so, Europe will punish you more than normal . Nil points , unless you pay double the divorce bill and then you might get a couple of points
Mark my words…this entry is gonna have a momentum!!!
It will grow on people until it sits in first position in the odds, but like good wine it takes a while to mature
Let’s not forget: Covid-19 might still ‘win’ the contest, as there are worries it might not happen this year. I hope that it will continue; I’m expecting much from this contest. However, if Lordi can win, why can’t Covid-19?
Are Covid-19 a heavy metal rock band wearing prosthetics and make-up? No. Wait… There’s an idea for 2021.
Wow right at the end at 23;30 PM then people will fall asleep with this so boring song. Then they will not televote and we will hear “I’m afraid you have received zero points from the public” to all countries.
A lot of people said the sane thing about the Common Linnets. They came second because Conchita made a statement against Putin. This year there is no political situation that will influence the voting.
Jeangu will do very well.
Do they have only 23 in that pot? I find it very weird, it’s a boring song so they’ll probably finish on the same position in the final rank… 23th
Looks like the Netherlands is gonna win again
Is it because of the pattern?
Its because a host is finally showing they wanna win again:-)
lol
I really like this song, it feels so beautiful and infused with sadness. It should do well enough I feel, so long as they can convey the intimacy of the song.
Malta’s song is out, and it’s by Symphonix.
Boris equals Laurell’s record?
There’s another writer that has three songs in the contest this year: Sharon Vaughn co-wrote the Estonian, Greek and Moldovan entries
Oh, that’s right, thanks. She’s also represented Ireland and Russia in the past – that’s some variation. These factory hitmakers get around.
Symphonix. I would never imagine 😀
Not even a good draw can save this tragic song
i have never met or heard of anyone in my life that votes on songs ONLY based off that they are late in the draw . The draw is good as it is now. Who cares if a song start 1 or 26. I still like the same songs.
i wish all positions would be sorted like in pre-2012, it’d be more fair to everyone
And this ridiculous guessing would stop at once.
i mean, producers *tend* to have a pattern with their running orders, which are getting more and more predictable. for example, 25th has been reserved for a major favorite who won/nearly won the semi for the past three years.
Thus making the competition less fun, imo.
The artists picked their specific performing number out of a bowl at the press conference, just like they do now, except now they of course only pick those ridiculous first or second half things.
I would try a different kind of draw, not with halves, but with quarters in the final (6/7/6/7) and thirds in the semis. This way, the producers would still have some control about the flow of the show, but we would reduce their power over the fate of some entries.
Another option would be to draw everybody and then allow the producers to make some changes, but only between entries that are back to back in the running order.
This was amongst the three ideas I sent to the EBU last year 1)One being divided semis into thirds and finals into quarters 2)Each country picking up a spot and producers can shift them by +1/-1 3)Songs to be grouped as ” Uptempo , mid-tempo , ballad , big staging , alternative” The countries are to pre decide the group which their song falls in while sending in their entry Now producers decide a running order based on song grouping and the countries of a group decide from a random draw which spot available to songs if their group they… Read more »
so you dont care that we can have 9 ballads in a row?
This system didn’t prevent that we heard the eventual tele vote winner, combined winner and jury winner right after each other in the semi last year.
100% agree. A random draw was more fair and not open to corruption and bias (as it is now).
I understand lots of ballads in a row (for example) is tough, but first and foremost, it’s a competition, and a tv show second. As such, it should be as fair to all entries as possible.
And I agree, viewers are getting smart and realising there is a link between final running order and how they performed in the semi.
I have a silly idea: Put them in alphabetical order every time. 😛
Just me?
Lol Purple. If you mean alphabetical order by song title, then I am sure most countries will be sending entries starting with the letter “z”, just to get prime positions. Some examples: (1) We wouldn’t have “alcohol you” but “zidovudine you” (I’ll zidovudine you when I’m drugged. Lol). (2)Tom Leeb would sing “Ze best in me” (sounds very french actually. Lol). (3) Claudia Faniello would have sung “zoologically”, instead of “breathlessly”. (4) Instead of “run with the lions”, Jurijus would have sang “run with the zebra’s”, and the title of the song would be “zebra’s”. (5) A song about being… Read more »
or “Zzzz” imitating bees sound 😀
On the one hand I’d say that it’s a great spot for a song that will only compete in the final, because people will remember it. But on the other hand, a lot of favorites from the semi-finals that drew the second half will probably be surrounding it, risking the Netherlands to be overpowered. I guess wwe’ll only know the 14th/15th May what to expect.
I think you’re mixing the allocation draw for competing countries in Semi-Finals, and this one where the Host find out a spot they get in the Grand Final.
Yes, but after the semifinals, the countries that proceed to the final also draw 1st or 2nd half during the press conference, I was referring to that draw.
Start positions from all former Eurovision winners since 2015:
2015: #10
2016: #21
2017: #11
2018: #22
2019: #12
2020: # …
So maybe we don’t have a winner who performed 23rd, but we do have winners who performed 21st and 22nd.
That’s not his point…
According to the sequence, what number comes next? 🙂
i hope the winner will be like 5th in the running order for a change
Or 2nd, just to spite those who put whatever entry in that spot.
Wow!… Notice the trend in the winner’s positions… It is +11 followed by -10, year on year. So position #10 in 2015 plus 11 equals the position #21 of 2016, minus 10 equals the position #11 of 2017, plus 11 equals the position #22 of 2018, minus 10 equals the position #12 of 2019… So if we extrapolate this, we should add 11 to last year’s winning slot, which means this year’s winning position is #23 aka The Netherlands. *faints* Someone hold me. Lol
And 10 minutes later, I only now realized that that was probably the intention of Henry’s post in the first place. God, I’m slow! #CaptainObvious Lol
Yes, that was my intention, but at least you saw it..
Lol, thanks anyways, you are not the only slow thinker here
So it’s basically between 10-12 and 20-23 which are worth the trophy. What a shock to not see the opening entry winning.
Foreshadowing Netherlands gets a second win in a row.
I’m glad to see they’ll have a draw late in the show. Hopefully there’ll be uptempo songs surrounding it to make it stand out, like how Duncan was surrounded by Cyprus and Greece.
Sounds like a great draw for the Netherlands, especially in a year it will be tough to predict the winner.
A very fitting placement. I don’t think blache would have placed that well if she was not placed this late. Netherlands this year is similar in that it’s a slow builder. And early to middle placed slow song like that would not do as well (I believe). I like both these songs and maybe the placement will make more people appriceate them. Because it is quite tiresome to go through all participants. So the partysong in the beginning would do well, but you don’t want more of that when we are up on 20 songs. So these almost meditative songs… Read more »
Kinda unfair ..
Why?
How is it unfair
How? It was literally a random pick. He could’ve easily picked 2nd instead.
I’m so relieved he didn’t get the death spot. It’s by far my favourite entry this year (so far).
I can see it both doing very well or being completely ignored like Austria 2015. Which would be very unfair, as that entry had zero content and ‘Grow’ has a rather nice story.
Plot twist; the pot only had 23’s in it.
Don’t be mean, I’m sure there were also some 24 or 25.
Didn’t The Netherlands have the spot two years ago?
They did! The last two entries feel miles ahead of Outlaw in ‘Em, I’ve gotta say.
Yeah, I agree with you there, but I actually like outlaw in em. I just didn’t like the staging for that song.
I thought it was a fine song but my god was the staging bad.
I don’t expect Jeangu to come on stsge with head banging gospel singers?
Perfect draw for a masterpiece!
My opinion on the draw: I feel 23rd is a really unpredictable position, especially looking at where a song performed 23rd placed in previous years.
A great draw position, if it was any earlier in the running order it would be forgotten.
A good song would never be forgotten
I’m changing my opinion on this entry like the weather. I’m leaning more towards really liking it, though. At other times, I’m underwhelmed and find the ending very abrupt and unsatisfactory. It’s definitely very relatable, so that’s a plus. And it’s one of the few I’m listening to.
So you Grow into it!!??
thats Great
Enjoy and Open Up
23rd is great! Hopefully it won’t end low on the scoreboard and be a host entry people will remember 🙂
23rd is a realistic placing for the song
I don’t see how if it’s not your style or taste you still put it down like that.. You can say what you want but it’s quality, no way this comes bottom 5..
Sources say that Russia and Azerbaijan will announce their song around 18:00CET while Malta will during national news bulletin 20:00CET…so excited to finally have all the songs
I hope you are right!
Can’t find any eurovision sources stating that…
Which sources???
Which source? As far as I know, Azerbaijan’s song will probably be released tomorrow at 12 pm
#fakenews
I think so because I am Maltese and no news was given on when the song will be released
Serbia last year had the 23rd spot and came 18th, Netherlands 2018 had the 23rd spot and came 18th, and Belgium the year before came 4th, so who knows????..
My semi opener and closer predictions:
Semi Final 1: Opened by Ireland and closed by Cyprus
Semi Final 2: Opened by Austria and closed by Bulgaria
For me it’s North Macedonia to open and Israel (or Malta if they send uptempo) to close in SF1 and Austria to open and Denmark to close in SF2
It’s so hard to figure out who will run away with the victory when The Netherlands have a great singer, Bulgaria have a great artist, Iceland have a quirky song, and Italy is amazing as-well, it looks like the final result might resemble, Eurovision 2011 and literally anyone can win…
Yes but hopefully we won’t end up with a really poor winner just like 2011
Being one of my favorites of this edition, I’m happy for his position! This can truly shine being the 23rd singing.
Great position actually!! Not expecting a win, but a quality song like Grow should end up top 15, maybe top 10.. (I see the downgrade coming… :D)
I am happy with this draw.