TIX wins MGP

Andreas Haukeland — better known as TIX — won this year’s Melodi Grand Prix with an outstanding score of 380,033 votes with “Fallen Angel”. For some, the win of the 27-year-old from Bærum came as a surprise. Now TIX has spoken out, addressing the criticism his song has faced in the Norwegian press.

The public had already embraced TIX’s MGP entry warmly. For over a month, “Ut av mørket” — the Norwegian version of “Fallen Angel” — was the most streamed MGP entry. A week before the final of the Norwegian selection, the song peaked at No.3 of the VG-lista, Norway’s most important music chart.

However, music critics at major Norwegian news outlets initially had less appreciation for the song. TIX received a score of one on the dice from critics from Dagbladet and NRK, a two on the dice from VG. A “one on the dice” is the lowest score reviewers in Norway generally give.

An NRK journalist wrote that Haukeland had “strengthened his position as the epicenter of musical low culture of the country in the past years.” A reviewer from Dagbladet went even further and wrote that he would eat TIX’s headband in a bed made out of the shards of his sunglasses if his song would win the final of Melodi Grand Prix. The reviewer called “Fallen Angel” a “helpless song”.

TIX speaks up for himself after bad reviews

Speaking to TV2 in the week running up to the final of this year’s Melodi Grand Prix, TIX called the reviews “public bullying”. The now Eurovision 2021 star then said:

“There is a delicate balance between satire and bullying (…). I think it is stupid that both adults and young people get to read music reviews where there is obvious bullying in the text. It sends a signal that talking like that about other people is okay.”

After winning Melodi Grand Prix, TIX again directed his attention towards the reviews. To Dagbladet, the singer-songwriter said that he hoped the reviewers would take a lesson from it:

“Of course, you should think something about music, but I hope we can be a little more careful with what we say. Words are not always just words.”

That the reviews didn’t hurt TIX was already clear during his final performance during the MGP final. Then, he was seen wearing a dice which showed a one on all sides.

After he won the Norwegian selection, the “Fallen Angel” hitmaker changed his bio on Instagram with the sentence “Number one on the dice, number one with the people. Thank you very much!”.

Read all our Norway Eurovision news here

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euro boy
euro boy
3 years ago

For sure Tix’s song has ‘generic’ melody and and ‘cliche’ lyrics – but there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, using cliches and familiar melodies in a refreshing way is one of the hardest tasks in pop music. Tix has managed to make a song that feels familiar and contemporary at the same time.
I love Keiino, but to be honest I have had way more problems with their songwriting: their melodic hooks are referencing bit too directly to certain other songs… (Monument is a mix of Moonlight Shadow and Nik Kershaw’s The Riddle)

Robin Olsen
3 years ago
Reply to  euro boy

This is one of the more open minded comment i have seen and i love it

Last edited 3 years ago by Robin Olsen
Milla
Milla
3 years ago

I wonder what will happen if Dotter is not winning it for Sweden? I’m pretty sure that Sweden’s representative will be punished by the Eurovision fandom.

Jonas
Jonas
3 years ago

Your homophobia sickens me. Gay is not an insult.

Ria van de Velde
Ria van de Velde
3 years ago

Congratulations for TIX !! I love his song !! But I prefer the Norwegian version.

Alx
Alx
3 years ago

People are looking more into the looks than the song or the voice. Even in the Eurovision bubble, were we ask for respect for our differences.

Koramil
Koramil
3 years ago

Chile imagine being so stressed and toxic about Eurovision. Give it up, Deelishis. TIX (and your future NF’s faves) won fair and square

Robin Olsen
3 years ago

Why is Europe in general (I know there is people out there who love TIX) so disrespectful towards TIX? He won a totally fair contest. Keiino also have a massive fanbase so of course there will be a battle between two fanbases. When has MGP not been?

Alex
Alex
3 years ago
Reply to  Robin Olsen

Europe does not know TIX, why are you acting like anyone outside the Eurovision fandom cares about Tix?

Robin Olsen
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Uhh i dont im just sayin that TIX won a fair game. Dont blame the artist for a system that allows the people to vote for the winner …all im sayin is that is possible to be disepointed and still respectfull. This wasnt Europes final it was Norways

Alex
Alex
3 years ago
Reply to  Robin Olsen

I don’t blame anyone, i guess we have the right to say that we don’t like the song and there were better songs?

Norway chose so Norway will be happy no matter what the outcome in Rotterdam will be!

Emily
Emily
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex

And who cares that Europe apparently doesn’t care about TIX? It should be about the song, not about whether or not people outside the specific country know who the representative is. Most of the time I don’t look into the people behind the songs until all entries are out… generally I try not to let who is popular/who is universally known sway me into deciding what I like the most. I’m sure many people who go into Eurovision blind would be the same.

Last edited 3 years ago by Emily
Alex
Alex
3 years ago
Reply to  Emily

My comment about Europe was based on the original poster’s comment asking why Europe is disrespectful towards TIX.

No one is disrespectful because Europeans do not know who TIX is! It’s just eurovision fans who watch the national finals.

Tix may be popular in Norway and he won because of his popularity but it’s a different case in ESC as we have seen big local names flop.

Emily
Emily
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Ah, I think that was me getting the wrong end of the stick there. My apologies 🙂
It’s just me being frustrated since a good fraction of commenters on here seem to be mad since KEiiNO was the “obvious” choice and apparently winning the televote once would’ve meant they’d 100% do it again.

Ifty
Ifty
3 years ago
Reply to  Robin Olsen

It’s because he didn’t win by his song, but by having fangirls and soccer moms vote for him based on local popular appeal. It’s supposed to be a song contest. Not a popularity contest. It’s not about KEiiNO, and if nearly any other song would have won from that national final people wouldn’t have been upset.

Robin Olsen
3 years ago
Reply to  Ifty

So what u sayin is that fangirls and soccer moms shouldnt be counted as voters? Im just sayin he is not the first artist with a massive fanbase to enter the MGP and Eurovision. Example: Alexander Rybak 2018

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Robin Olsen
3 years ago
Reply to  Robin Olsen

Dont tell me that Keiino didnt get some popularity votes too. Im not only mad that some Keiino fans Are being very rude but he won a fair game with system that MGP have. Popularity will always be a factor as long as the people vote and that is not TIXs fault….dont be rude to him for doing his Job. Be rude to NRK if U dont like the system

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Bamborough
Bamborough
3 years ago

no keiino won. tix lying

Schrodinger's Wolfman
Schrodinger's Wolfman
3 years ago

The reviewers are pretty dead on, though. Tix makes awful music that’s popular with teens. He seems like a nice dude, but it’s not a nice dude contest now is it? The act remains laughable, whether he plays a character or not, regardless of the reasons for it. I’m not pissed because KEiiNO lost, but I am a bit disappointed that out of 12 contenders my fellow Norwegians chose the worst, blandest of the lot because of the name attached. Ironically, the nasty reviews probably gained him a fair bunch of sympathy votes, because people love sticking it to the… Read more »

Alex
Alex
3 years ago

I agree with you. It’s not about Keiino not winning, but the fact that the national selection shows had so many good entries worthy to represent Norway and a weak song like the one from Tix won….not because it’s good but because of the artist’s popularity.

Robin Olsen
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Dont tell me that Keiino didnt get some popularity votes too. Im not only mad that some Keiino fans Are being very rude but he won a fair game with system that MGP have. Popularity will always be a factor as long as the people vote and that is not TIXs fault….dont be rude to him for doing his Job. Be rude to NRK if U dont like the system

Last edited 3 years ago by Robin Olsen
Alex
Alex
3 years ago
Reply to  Robin Olsen

Keiino aren’t as popular as TIX. I agree with you that their 2019 success helped but it wasn’t just that.

Keiino fans are not rude, there are many fans who aren’t Keiino fans but just Eurovision fans who just didn’t like TIX song as there were so much better songs in the competition. They are also fans of Raylee.

No one said it wasn’t fair, we just said that he won because he’s popular and not because the song was the best of the night!!!!!!!

Denis
Denis
3 years ago

Yes, getting the teen vote means you have some relevance since teens are a pretty influential group. Better that the middle aged schlager vote. Those hasnt been relevant since 1999.

myoozik
myoozik
3 years ago

Is the fact that televoters don’t vote for a song based solely on its objective quality really news to you? That’s why I’ve always said that both relying entirely on either juries or public vote is bullshit, you need both. Of course the public votes out of sympathy or for other reasons and I certainly don’t exclude myself from that. But I don’t see that in itself as a bad thing. Also, just because someone votes differently than the critics or you doesn’t mean they have bad taste. I totally agree with your last paragraph though.

Last edited 3 years ago by myoozik
okan
okan
3 years ago

There wasn’t any bullying in the article about TIX, there was no personal attacks. You can criticize a song, you can criticize clothing choice and choreography. We do this for all songs and acts. I know that he has an underdog story that is appealing to Norwegian fans and it helped him to create a fanbase over there which also worked in Eurovision as well before (Salvador) but right now he is not a victimm, he is a winner and saying don’t bully me because people dislike his song is stupid. This is a song competition, you submit your song… Read more »

Denis
Denis
3 years ago
Reply to  okan

Question is waht people consider as bullying? Everyone has different standards. What you consider as just judgement someone else can see as bullying. I guess it¨s how you say it. What do you consider bullying?

okan
okan
3 years ago
Reply to  Denis

Bullying is personal attacks. Reviews can be harsh and sometimes maybe hurtful but this is a contest and you do not say a song is good just because not to hurt the artist. They can say a song suck and it is a review, if they say you suck then it is bullying.

Robin Olsen
3 years ago
Reply to  okan

The reviewer who said he’d eat Tix’s headband if he won, also called him out in a different review (where he gave another MGP contender a 1), suggesting that maybe crying on TV might help her ratings, which is a reference to an interview Tix did where he spoke about mental illness and suicidal thoughts.

I mean this a low for a serious reviewer. This has nothing to do with the song only TIX as a person. And bringning that up when u review another song is disrespectful no matter how the song is.

Alex
Alex
3 years ago
Reply to  Robin Olsen

Since when ‘eating Tix’s headband’ is bullying? Some people need to be educated on bullying…Every single artist has received criticism, same happened with Sobral, Jamala, Conchita, Lena, Bilan, Sakis Rouvas, Netta and the list goes on…

Robin Olsen
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Firstly: I did not mention bullying once in my answer, because I myself am unsure whether it qualifies as bullying.   But this I can say: “I have to eat the TIX headband and lie on broken shards of glass from his glasses knowing he is going on to Eurovision” I agree that is not bullying. Something I’ve never said either.   But the fact that the same reviewer writes in a review where he reviews Ane.Fins "Walking in my sleep" which was in the last semi final which is about mental health gives her a roll of the dice… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Robin Olsen
Robin Olsen
3 years ago

will now defend TIX as a Norwegian. Yes, I get it, Europe wanted Keiino to win. TIX may not have the winning potential, but he has the song with the message Norway want to send to Europe this year. That it’s okay to go through a tough time and that everyone can sometimes feel like a fallen angel Keiino has perhaps the best song and shows perhaps the greatest musicality (considering that TIX has said in an interview that he does not make / care music to show musicality), but the way TIX manages to gather people through music that… Read more »

Kosey
Kosey
3 years ago
Reply to  Robin Olsen

Man of the people, fantastic! That is exactly how his song and personality came across to me. I like that he is explicit that he is playing a character, again very clever and hopefully should dampen down his critics about questionable past lyrics. It all fits, he is the flawed fallen Angel – aren’t we all?

Robin Olsen
3 years ago
Reply to  Kosey

I think the way he came across to many at the mgp final on saturday was the best balance between TIX and Andreas he EVER has achieved !

Robin Olsen
3 years ago
Reply to  Kosey

TIX aslo said on Instagram a while back that he will never forget where he comes from and who made him famous…the Norwegian graduation students (Russ) and the party music that follows will always be in his heart

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Ethan1994
Ethan1994
3 years ago

To be honest, I feel like TIX’s victory has pretty much put on full display one of the things I especially hate about the Eurovision fandom (who generally are otherwise quite fun): Whenever a big fan favourite doesn’t win (especially during NF season), it always becomes a big pissing contest on who can be the most bitter. Like, I get it, KEiiNO were my favourite (TIX was somewhere like 6th in my top 12 of the final), and I was really disappointed when they lost to TIX in the last round, but TIX won fair and square, the same way… Read more »

Ethan1994
Ethan1994
3 years ago
Reply to  Ethan1994

Yes, it does have to do with Spain and Sweden. It’s a joke making fun of the fans who, during NF season in 2017, were extremely bitter and angry (for months on end) that Mirela didn’t get to represent Spain, and that Loreen didn’t get to represent Sweden, and who would comments about them in nearly every article or post about Sweden or Spain, which got really irritating for some of us after a while. And it wasn’t just those two either, there were a lot fan favourites that lost during NF season in 2017. I saw the joke in… Read more »

Ifty
Ifty
3 years ago
Reply to  Ethan1994

I’m not upset that KEiiNO didn’t win. I’m upset that out of so many good song options they picked a bad song for reasons completely unrelated to the quality of the song. It’s supposed to be a song contest, not a popularity contest. And I don’t think I’m alone here.

Oy oy
Oy oy
3 years ago

I almost cried when KEiiNO didn’t win. But hey, that’s life! There is no doubt the youths and children of Norway voted TIX as the winner. But it’s a good thing that the new generation embrace MGP and ESC! Maybe we will see more of Norway’s top artists in MGP because of TIX’s victory?

Nya
Nya
3 years ago

Just chill y’all. It’s not okay to hate on him just because he won instead of keiino. I loved keiino’s song a lot, and I was super dissapointed, but that’s the life. As esc fans you should have been used to fan favourites flopping already. Sending hate to him is really disrespectful, you are grown a$$ people, act like it. It’s all done, leave it in the past. Good luck to norway, from romania !! <3

Daniel
Daniel
3 years ago
Reply to  Nya

In my case, of course I don’t hate him. The Norwegian version of his song actually sounds nice. But I would have sent any of the other three super finalists before him. He was the weakest one.

Nya
Nya
3 years ago
Reply to  Daniel

I know his song is a lil weak, but that’s what norwegians wanted. And I also want the original version back, but that’s up to him if he wants or not

Safiya
Safiya
3 years ago

To be honest, I didn’t like “Monument” that much and I think this song is better. It’s a competition, someone has to win, someone has to lose. The fact that your favorite did not win is never a reason to bully other artists. Let him be.

Candy
Candy
3 years ago

The song sounds like a boygroup hit from the 2000s so I can see why some people predict that it won’t qualify and the angel costume didn’t do Croatia any favours either. Did TIX win because of his song or because of his popularity? Well, we won’t ever know. People should be free to criticise songs as much and as (un)professionally as they desire but attacking and insulting TIX/Andreas as a person is wrong. I hope this experience won’t do him any harm and that he won’t take it personally. It might be clever, though, if he addressed the controversial… Read more »

BeepBoop
BeepBoop
3 years ago

Not to be that person but sometimes, the Eurovision fandom excels at bullying… I liked “Monument” too but you are definitely not making KEiiNO proud by hating on this guy who won fair and square. Most Norwegian people voted for him? Well… he is going to represent them, makes total sense — That is like… Eurovision basics? I hope this passes soon and that he can at least enjoy his journey in the contest.
Regardless of the result, good luck Norway!

Somebody
Somebody
3 years ago

Something reminds me of Agnete about TIX. I’m not sure if the mental issues are a recall or the song can potentially be a NQ, but either way this is a star’s life. You can’t control what people say, you eventually learn and move on.

Mr X
Mr X
3 years ago

Actually I see more chances for Croatia for qualifying instead of Norway.

Mr X
Mr X
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr X

I don´t like Tik Tok – this is only a personal prediciton of myself.

Antonia
Antonia
3 years ago

Okay Keiino didn’t win. In ur opinions Monument was better. That’s not a reason to take it out on him. Let him enjoy his victory and try his best whatever the result. Be supportive on people and give them the reasons to improve themselves and their work. Thanx.

Martyna
Martyna
3 years ago

I’m very displeased with Norway’s choice, and I dislike both the song and the staging. I’m sorry but for me ‘Fallen Angel’ is terrible, and the staging is so unoriginal, unsophisticated. Angel wings, come on. Even his headband irritates me. On the other hand, I think the critics went a bit too far, one might expect more of a person who holds such a profession, I’d say respectable profession. In the end, I’m sorry Norway but I’m afraid you’re not gonna make it through the semi. I’ve wholeheartedly supported Keiino and Jorn, and I cried when they announced the results.

Moonstar
Moonstar
3 years ago
Reply to  Martyna

Well, to be honest with you, I believe you are actually going to cry some more when he moves on from the semifinal to the final. So , prepare a couple of boxes of handkerchiefs!

Last edited 3 years ago by Moonstar
woah
woah
3 years ago

Don’t want bad reviews? Make a better song.

Domino
Domino
3 years ago
Reply to  woah

Now that’s a bit harsh isn’t it?

Sabrina
Sabrina
3 years ago

I got lost on Youtube and ended up watching this interview that TIX gave on a Norwegian TV show (it has English subtitles): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFamIgUtiSo&ab_channel=realPhali With all these talks about him, I think this video connects some dots for us that aren’t familiar with his carreer. For example, I didn’t know that TIX was more than a stage persona with that bling outfit, but an actual character that he created to boost his confidence and deal with the insecurities related to his medical conditions and the social challenges that came with them. He became a big name of a Norwegian subgenre… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Sabrina
Max
Max
3 years ago
Reply to  Sabrina

Thank you so much for your comment! I hope a lot of people here are reading it and watching the video before going crazy.

SpaceyDacey
SpaceyDacey
3 years ago
Reply to  Sabrina

But that is it.. Not everyone will read about a singer’s biography, not everyone will have commentary explaining a singer’s background / career or will watch it off Youtube with no commentary altogether. Most people will not know (or care) if he suffered from mental problems, why this persona was created etc. Many people will not sympathise because he had struggles because it’s a Eurovision Song Contest and if the people won’t like the song then they won’t vote. It’s harsh but it’s the truth. This is like when Finland sent the Aina Mun Pitaa (or something) featuring a band… Read more »

Kosey
Kosey
3 years ago
Reply to  SpaceyDacey

The major difference between this and PKN is that TIX has an unashamedly modern pop song and PKN had a punk song. I think a lot of people across Europe will enjoy Fallen Angel and won’t realise or care that it was the song that knocked out KEiiNO.

SpaceyDacey
SpaceyDacey
3 years ago
Reply to  Kosey

We are mostly talking about his stage looks, not to mention his live vocals where the playback was higher than his actual voice and we don’t even know how exactly his live vocals sound like If he goes out there like he did in MGP, many will fail to take this seriously [Like Croatia in 2019]. In my opinion the song is average at best and was one of my lowest 2 songs in all of the MGP, and I do admit I have hoped for either KEiiNO or Jorn to represent Norway. Fallen Angel is what many consider a… Read more »

Moonstar
Moonstar
3 years ago
Reply to  SpaceyDacey

What is a Eurovision song? Jorn’s old-fashioned song?

Last edited 3 years ago by Moonstar
Mr X
Mr X
3 years ago
Reply to  Kosey

Modern ? Sorry, “Fallen Angels” sounds like 2000 or 2005.

Kosey
Kosey
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr X

It depends on your definition of modern. Some of us have been around a lot longer than others, lol!

Sabrina
Sabrina
3 years ago
Reply to  SpaceyDacey

My intention with the comment was more of sharing some context to us hardcore Eurovision fans. But you’re right, there’s a lot to unpack in just 3 minutes for a casual viewer. His extravagant style sort of clashes with the looks we expect from someone singing a romantic song. The angel wings and dancing demons may lead some televoters to think of it as a joke entry, while may be distractive to the juries and take focus from the music. That’s why I have no idea how other countries will see this performance.

Bamborough
Bamborough
3 years ago

KEiiNO were robbed. This man is a thief not an angel. KEiiNO could secure a win for Norway. Now they will come last in their Semi-Final. Personally the song and artist is bad. The way he showed off as if he expected to win. This guy will not be liked by the fans. Norway you made the wrong choice.

Polliu
Polliu
3 years ago
Reply to  Bamborough

Get your brain checked first for saying he stole the victory. He won by the rules fair and square. It’s not his fault that Keiino fans couldn’t gain enough televote.

Bamborough
Bamborough
3 years ago
Reply to  Polliu

i think norway needs to get its brain checked…

Bamborough
Bamborough
3 years ago
Reply to  Polliu

Also keiino was the favourite for many people. Tix right at the bottom. So he should not have won.

Robert
Robert
3 years ago
Reply to  Bamborough

Case and point!! Jeezz

Stian F
Stian F
3 years ago

I personally think the bad reviews of TIXs song in the Norwegian went to far in the criticism of both the song and the artist, and that the reviews felt almost personal – like an attack on the artist himself. The song itself did not deserve the lowest score of 1 (out of 6), but it didnt deserve better than 3 maximum either, as the song IS rather generic and lacks something special that makes it really stand out. Its an ok song for radios and background music, but for Eurovision it is a bit dull – like a basic… Read more »

Loin dici
Loin dici
3 years ago
Reply to  Stian F

Do we really have to paste “TIX wears those as a character covering his insecurities and Tourette symptomps” as a disclaimer on every TIX post?

Reverb
Reverb
3 years ago
Reply to  Loin dici

Thank you

SpaceyDacey
SpaceyDacey
3 years ago
Reply to  Loin dici

If the people won’t know about his insecurities because let’s face it, not everyone is an overzealous fan looking up the biography of every singer in the competition and their backgrounds, then this performance will be seen as tacky and circus like. WE the ESC mega fans now know about this struggles. But people who will watch the ESC on show night only, won’t… and THAT will affect big time, Not everyone has commentary during the ESC and some will watch it on YouTube with no commentary whatsoever. So yeah, it will come out as tacky unfortunately. Being famous Local… Read more »

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
3 years ago
Reply to  SpaceyDacey

Well, the reason Olivia and Claudia failed to qualify was because their songs sucked!

Richard Hochuli
Richard Hochuli
3 years ago

Congrats.
I think this has winning style performance.
Easy on the ear, good staging.
I like the tune, in Norwegian was slightly better, but Fallen Angel will give Norway another Eurovision win, or Top 3 at least.

Bamborough
Bamborough
3 years ago

No. It will come dead last in the Semi-Final. Bland song.

Robin Olsen
3 years ago
Reply to  Bamborough

Will u eat a TIX headband if he wins?

Albert
Albert
3 years ago

I really feel bad for him, he doesn’t deserve all this hate just because Norway public chose him.

Even if his song isn’t as good as the others in MGP, he deserves respect…

Last edited 3 years ago by Albert
Milan
Milan
3 years ago
Reply to  Albert

Certainly he has my respect, but if his song isn’t as good as the others in MGP, then it is not he who should go to Rotterdam.

Ifty
Ifty
3 years ago

Frankly everyone keep going on about how nice he is despite the song not being that good… But from my perspective riding into a position of privilege for representing your country at Eurovision based on local popularity, while ignoring criticism about your act and boasting on how you’re #1 with the people is pretty vain and a bit belittling to the other artists… This isn’t a popularity contest, it’s a song contest. And he’s not some poor victim, but a widely successful local celebrity. And eventually it’s his country that might pay the price for his vanity. And it’s not… Read more »

Briekimchi
Briekimchi
3 years ago

I’ll read further but the comments from the critics that you use in this article seem professional enough. We definitely don’t want to live in a world where experts are not allowed to comment on or critique arts when they do so professionally on the off chance that some feelings might be hurt. Where do you draw the line? Companies? Governments? As long as these things are done properly, they are so vital. What’s not ok is some of the comments that appear in places like this comment section, which is the only place I’ve really read the personal attacks… Read more »

Joe
Joe
3 years ago

Unrelated: Israel’s confirmed for 2022 and they said they’re going back to an external selection (i.e. something like HaKokhav HaBa).

Joe
Joe
3 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Considering what a headache their selection this year turned out to be…yeah, probably for the best.

Marcin
Marcin
3 years ago

literally all nasty comments ive seen came from keiino fans harassing other participants and their fanbases so…

Jimmy Smit
Jimmy Smit
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcin

Do you think the world is exactly and only as you see it?

Marcin
Marcin
3 years ago

by that logic you could also say that keiino was such a big fan favourite only thanks to being a popular name among esc fans

Rumah Dara
Rumah Dara
3 years ago

I’m not against him as a person. I’m also not really keen into KEiiNO’s song but i can’t lie that his song was so bland and might be struggle to qualify. I like the Norwegian version tho but the english version is just like Albania 2016. I think disappointment is legit when there so many good choices but people love stories instead of the song itself. However, bullying isn’t right in every aspect and we have to accept that he won MGP. Good luck for TIX anyway.

Jimmy Smit
Jimmy Smit
3 years ago

I think without having read the reviews in full it’s hard to judge if the cherrypicked quotes in this article were intended quite as viciously as they might seem — and in a way the bad press seems to have boosted support for TIX anyway and enamoured him to his fans even more — so good on him for turning the negative reviews into something useful. I didn’t realise the meaning behind the dice, clever idea to wear it as a prop!

Jimmy Smit
Jimmy Smit
3 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy Smit

The more I think about this, it all seems so paradoxical—he’s a super popular Norwegian pop star but he’s also the underdog victim of bullying and hate who overcame uber-favourites KEiiNO? He’s had multiple chart-topping hits in Norway but he’s also proudly wearing his one-on-the-dice prop…

Not sure what to make of the contradictions really.

Kosey
Kosey
3 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy Smit

It is classic underdog territory. He is the man of the people against the powers that be that are trying to suppress him. It is directly relevant to Eurovision since there is a snobbishness about the jury vote in ESC.

It makes me like him even more!

Honesty
Honesty
3 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy Smit

There’s no contradiction here. The more popular you get, the more haters you have. And making great, heart-moving music doesn’t make you a snobs’ favorite, I mean a critics’ favorite. He is also an outsider only in the eyes of KEiiNO bigots. He is a fan favorite of MDP 2021 Norway. Done.

Denis
Denis
3 years ago

Eurofans only seems to want songs that exist solely in the ESC bubble to win while it’s arguably more important to have a song that can work outside ESC too. TIX has a song that has a very sizeable audience outside ESC while Keeino is just a song no one outside ESC fans and schlager lovers listens to. Sadly these people think everybody listens to that..
Honestly, eurofans are sometimes just as toxic as the Star Wars fandom..

Last edited 3 years ago by Denis
Jimmy Smit
Jimmy Smit
3 years ago
Reply to  Denis

Fans/fanatics naturally have strong opinions. Did you really see so much toxicity and hate towards TIX, or was there just a sizeable and therefore loud display of disappointment from a lot of supporters for the acts who lost? MGP 2021 was very strong — we all said it — so there was bound to be disappointment in some quarters.

Last edited 3 years ago by Jimmy Smit
Denis
Denis
3 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy Smit

Of course you can be disappointed, I get disappointed too when my favourite doesn’t win, but I am not going to trash whoever won just because. You don’t even have to wish him good luck but a graceful loser and accept your favourite wasn’t the best. That shouldn’t be to difficult, should it?

Jimmy Smit
Jimmy Smit
3 years ago
Reply to  Denis

I agree with you— people shouldn’t trash each other …it’s horrible, I still remember when Rylan Neal Clark was bullied here and called a “trash human being” by one prolific commenter. Nasty stuff. My point was that I don’t think the 600+ Norway post actually has that level of trash talking, unless you’re saying people can’t even say what they like and dislike. Then how far do you go with this line of thinking…will rankings eventually be seen as hateful too? Is +1 and -1 hateful? Obviously I’m being somewhat of a devil’s advocate with my questions but there’s an… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Jimmy Smit
Briekimchi
Briekimchi
3 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy Smit

Hard to complain about Groupthink when we’re both commenting on a website that has upvotes and downvotes for comments. 😉

Jimmy Smit
Jimmy Smit
3 years ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

That’s like saying we can’t critique society because we live in it 😉

Briekimchi
Briekimchi
3 years ago
Reply to  Denis

Not being mean but a lot of supposed Eurovision fans (especially those that get really riled up by something like this) don’t really seem to spend a lot of time away from their computers, Eurovision sites and other like-minded commenters.

I don’t think they get exposed to many opinions that are not exactly the same as their own and like any cult-like mindset, they respond aggressively when things don’t go exactly their way.

But honestly, in 2021, this seems to be the case with just about everything…not just Eurovision.

Jimmy Smit
Jimmy Smit
3 years ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

Especially with much of the world experiencing various forms of lockdown for the past year!

Giolo
Giolo
3 years ago
Reply to  Denis

My friends dislike ESC songs, they liked Spirit in the sky and loved Monument, it’s definitely not a song only for the ESC bubble, while Fallen angel is a song for Norwegian teens as they love him as a singer and as a person. My friends all agreed Tix was fine, but nothing more.

That said I wish Tix good luck and I am sure he will be in the final, probably even in top 15

OpenUpToKazakhstan
OpenUpToKazakhstan
3 years ago

He’s still top 10 in the odds so he can’t be as bad as the bitter people make the entry out to be.

Aplk
Aplk
3 years ago

I never understood why people from other countries get mad when a country chooses someone who is not their favorite. It is Norway’s choice not yours, you guys should be thankful you were able to vote outside Norway.

Alonso
Alonso
3 years ago
Reply to  Aplk

Yes! The result may hurt someone’s feeling, but it’s a majority choice, we have to live with that fact, no matter who you voted for. There are so many fans of other heats complaining about TIX’s song, and trash talk about this talented artist. That’s not fair! What happend happened. We should RESPECT ALL ARTISTS AND JUST LISTEN TO THE SONGS. MUSIC FIRST.

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Jimmy Smit
Jimmy Smit
3 years ago
Reply to  Alonso

Have you ever voted? Any vote, any election, requires an input or an investment. If you ask people to invest, whether it’s in music or politics, you can’t just ask them to switch off that investment when the result is declared. People are not robots. People should accept the result of course but for goodness sake don’t force them to like it.

Last edited 3 years ago by Jimmy Smit
Alonso
Alonso
3 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy Smit

Have I ever mentioned the word FORCE? I’m not forcing any haters to love TIX just because he won the selection. Of course you can be sad or be mad about the result. I’m not a fan of TIX either, my favorite one is IMERIKA. But it’s not TIX’s fault for trying to win the selection and representing his country in Eurovision. The point is we should RESPECT THE ARTIST. Like him or not, the die is cast.

Alonso
Alonso
3 years ago
Reply to  Jimmy Smit

Right, people have feelings. However, sadness and disappointment won’t change the fact that TIX won. Keep hating TIX won’t do any help.

Alex
Alex
3 years ago

There’s no such thing as pity votes. I mean maybe if your country was invaded by Russia (see Ukraine 2014) or you are desperate to qualify to the final (Valentina’s third time in 2014) but Tix is not going to get any pity points. If he gets any points, it will be because viewers like his performance/song/styling.

Alex
Alex
3 years ago

Tix needs to grow some thick skin, this is showbiz and harsh reviews are part of this game unfortunately. I mean, he should be ready for ESC (HoD should help with that) because all acts are grilled in Eurovision, it’s a massive platform so there will be excellent reviews but also some nasty comments. If he got offended by low scores/bad reviews from music critics, well c’est la vie. Not everyone’s gonna like your song. If they attack you for who you are (e.g. your appearance, your sexual orientation etc), then it’s a different story ofc and it’s definitely not… Read more »

Aplk
Aplk
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex

I saw tons of comments about his chin and also saying that he had date rape lyrics in a song which turned out not to be true. Some people think that being mean is just criticism.

Candy
Candy
3 years ago
Reply to  Aplk

Not sure if they imply date rape, that’s up to interpretation, but the lyrics definitely are degrading. In this context, he doesn’t really come across as likeable. Maybe that’s just who the character TIX is and Andreas is different, but it would be interesting to hear how he thinks of those lyrics nowadays.

Alex
Alex
3 years ago
Reply to  Aplk

See?? And some people here idolise him and pretend that he is an angel and does not deserve criticism.

Alex
Alex
3 years ago
Reply to  Aplk

I have never seen any comments about his appearance, all the comments were criticising the song being of low quality compared to the competition and the fact that he won because of his popularity.

However, let me remind you that EVERY SINGLE artist in ESC is grilled on twitter and fan pages whether it is about their looks, vocal abilities, outfit choices or even sexual orientation…

Kosey
Kosey
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex

In any reasonable world, you cannot describe Fallen Angel as a “horrible, horrible song”. You can say that it doesn’t give you any emotional connection, or that you find it repetitive, or that the instrumentation is not to your taste, but describing it as horrible with no justification is just plain mean and is exactly what we are trying to get away from.

Eurofandom is toxic and I'm glad I left
Eurofandom is toxic and I'm glad I left
3 years ago

He did not win just out of popularity. If people won just out of popularity Sweden would have sent Samir och Viktor since they are so popular here

Azaad
Azaad
3 years ago

He wasn’t my choice but IMO unless an act actively cheats and colludes with the HOD (rather than just benefitting from potentially unfair rules when they thought they were competing honestly) to unfairly win a national final, then any hate is unwarranted. Moreover, with how successful this song was domestically in Norway, his victory seemed somewhat inevitable. And I think Tom, Alexandra and Fred would be horrified by the conduct of a few of their so called fans.

An American ESC Fan
An American ESC Fan
3 years ago
Reply to  Azaad

Yeah, KEiiNO posted something on Instagram congratulating Tix (and he thanked them, stating his admiration) so it seems there’s no bad blood between them. Good to know they’re as kind as ever!!

Alex
Alex
3 years ago

Why would there bad blood? They are good guys doing music, no one talked shit about each other…. Just because eurovision fans think Tix’s song is bad, it doesn’t mean Keiino and Tix are in a fight.

Jimmy Smit
Jimmy Smit
3 years ago

I doubt this is what TIX meant by no bullying.

Gav
Gav
3 years ago

Can I say I am loving the positivity of wiwibloggs this year. Iv always been use to seeing a very spikeful page of comments but I’m really getting a sense of embracing diversity, difference and most importantly fun in the music. Sure their is disappointment their favourite song may not have made it. BUT we can have lots of favourites! The more o read about TIX the more I like and respect him.

Gav
Gav
3 years ago
Reply to  Gav

Damnit… this was written before I scrolled down to the bottom of the comments.

Kenny03
Kenny03
3 years ago
Reply to  Gav

Lol, I had a similar experience !! But I think it’s only a small minority that let the side down, generally we are a supportive and fun fandom 🙂

Gavin
Gavin
3 years ago
Reply to  Kenny03

yey to supportive fun fandom.

Last edited 3 years ago by Gavin
Emkay
Emkay
3 years ago

Eurofans really need an attitude adjustment. You’re giving twitter pop stans a run for their money.

Max
Max
3 years ago

He is just such a credible, authentic person. I really like him and his song.

Raphael
Raphael
3 years ago

Now I understand why Tix shows the dice during his performance and like him even more than before

Micky
Micky
3 years ago

Where? I haven’t seen them. Share the link please

Esc addict
Esc addict
3 years ago

And after don’t ask why popular and established big artists from all participating countries don’t want to come and participate in eurovision when they see that, honestly it doesn’t make you want, AT ALL. The fans should work on their mind.

Esc addict
Esc addict
3 years ago
Reply to  Esc addict

If it were the fans only, but even some HOD and some delegations are toxic so this Esc world has to change.

Teddi
Teddi
3 years ago

Bullying is NEVER okay. We gotta get over results, and he fairly seems like a genuine and nice guy. He doesn’t deserve so much hate.

Kris
Kris
3 years ago

The Norwegian public chose him. We will know whether the naysayers were right or his fans were right in May. And then one of the two groups will hopefully learn a lesson. Till then , all I can say is I genuinely liked the Norwegian version of the song and we need a less outre staging and he could still qualify .

I hope to get great music from the Norwegian artists in the future . My favourites were IMERIKA, Emmy and ofcourse KEiiNO.