Ukraine’s Jamala may have won Eurovision 2016, but she didn’t win Semi-Final 2. Owing to a different make-up of competing countries and a different running order, she ultimately finished second behind Australia’s Dami Im.
The “1944” singer did, however, win the televote in this semi, beating Australia to the top in that segment with 152 points (to Dami’s 142).
Australia’s advantage came with the jury, where Dami scored 188 points — putting her well ahead of third-place jury finisher Jamala, who earned 135. And yes, we did say third-place finisher. The jury actually awarded second place to Belgium’s Laura. The teen dream managed to beat Jamala by 4 points with her plum starting order (she closed the show) and epic, happy-go-lucky staging.
Further down the table, we see that the public would have liked to put FYR Macedonia’s Kaliopi and Belarus’ Ivan through to the final. They ranked those acts eighth and ninth. Neither of them made it in the end, losing out to Georgia’s Nika Kocharov & Young Georgian Lolitaz (who the public ranked 11th) and Israel’s Hovi Star (who the public ranked 16th).
For its part, the jury would have liked to send Slovenia’s ManuElla through, as they ranked her 10th. But, owing to the strength of the televote, Poland’s Michal Szpak managed to claw his way back to the final. The jury only ranked him 15th.
Below we’ve compiled a table based on rank ordinals that shows who the jury hurt and helped the most. A negative score shows that the jury ranked the contestant lower than the televote, while a positive score shows that they ranked the act higher than the televote.
Poland was the country most hurt, placing 11 spots lower with the jury than the public. Other acts hurt by the jury include Albania’s Eneda Tarifa, Macedonia’s Kaliopi and Belarus’ IVAN.
The country most helped by the jury was Israel, who placed 12 spots higher with the jury than with the public. Slovenia, Switzerland and Georgia also benefitted from the jury.
What do you make of all this? Are you surprised Belgium did so well? Are you annoyed that the jury ranked Poland so low? And would you have sent Slovenia through? Let us know in the comments box below.
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I’m surprised israel didn’t do better at the among the televiewers. The singer was pretty much the best singer in the competition and had a really good song and performance- thank goodness for the juries!! I was also surprised to see poland do so well among televiewers, have nothing against poland but honestly it was not a great song. However im happy Ukraine won , very good song indeed. Regards from Denmark
@vlad123
I totally agree with you. Polish diaspora is the same like 2015 and 2014. In 2015 and 2014 Poland didn`t give so much points. Michal is a great artist, he can touch hearts. I`m Polish, before Polish National Final I crossed fingers for Margaret but she can`t sing. In live Michal is incredible so I voted for him in Polish National Final. Europe also loves Michal:)
Jury hurt Michal who beautiful sang his song. Switzerland better than Poland – it`s ridiculous. Jury punished Michal for Polish politics but it`s unjustified.
*They can’t vote from South America yet…
@Ania, I never intended to argue with you. So please don’t mind if I have adifferent opinion. In my eyes, it is just obvious that Poland more and more benefits from its diapora what is not a bad thing at all. At least it increases the Polish chances to win the contest in the near future. I don’t mind that at all. And yes Polish televotes were good last year, too (15th place) if you take into account that the Polish song was also the least favourite with regard to the juries (27th). In 2014, it is the same picture.… Read more »
Briekimchi
Thanks to draw in semi they got ticket to final. Same in 2013 again in Sweden.
I don’t believe that Poland’s 3rd pace in the televote was solely due to the Polish diaspora. If the jury and televote don’t match up, might it not be that the 2016 jurors were not representitive of the voting population of Europe? A population pyramid for the 2016 Eurovision jurors (follow the link to see it) shows that when it comes to voting, Eurovision is a bit like The Oscars……..
The juries loved Georgia and Montenegro…and disliked Austria. In other words: They were right!
What shocks me is that the juries didn’t place Serbia higher. Sanja is a great vocalist and her song had a wonderful message.
P.S.: Rykka = Melanie Rene 2.0. 🙁
poprostu polska byla silnym rywalem i zostala wyeliminowana zeby nie szkodzic
i think russia and ukraine got many diaspora votes, same as australia. bulgaria is a true winner
@GEF
Where were our nationalism in 2015? German diaspora in Switzerland gave some points to their fatherland and German diaspora in Austria didn’t, maybe gave us:) GEF you think you can explain everything, I think it’s not so simple. I won’t convice you and you won’t convice me.So…peace
@Ania, well yes you are right, Ukraine is also a diaspora country. Have I said the opposite anywhere? No. Of course, it is a diaspora country. And that is one reason why Ukraine is also very successful each year (but not the only reason). With reagrd to Germans and Austrians. There is no cultural difference between the two. They speak the same language and share similar histories. However, they don’t really like each other very much. Germany in fact never gets any points from Austria. I am also German but I can’t explain the rivalry between the two countries. It… Read more »
@hovi
HHHH hovi you are so funny…. Michael also like Israel 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4I12i0K-HM
He has the best voice.
How could Israel get such a low position with the televote? But Poland with a similar style to Israel managed to place 4th in the televote… I suppose this is what we call diaspora voting. And they say juries must be eliminated…
#TeamDouwe
@ GEF
Your toughts are boring. We all know everything about polish diaspora. Maybe you tell us something about ukrainian diaspora? In my country for example lives 1 milion Ukrainians. Oh, from Austria we get 12 points, in Austria lives 66 000 Poles and 210 000 German people. How many points Germany get from Austria?
i love polish diaspora
For once the juries actually worked. Macedonia and Belarus DID NOT deserve to qualify with shit entries. Both are just lucky to have so many voting buddies in their semi. juries actually did their job keeping those shit entries out of the final.
Still confused how Norway didnt make it :/
Ok, so Polish minorities only exist in UK and Ireland. Wikipedia may help: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_diaspora) “Polish immigration to the Netherlands has steadily increased since Poland was admitted to the E.U., and now an estimated 135,000 Polish people live in the country.” “Norway has recently experienced an influx of Polish migrant workers. This because Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, providing the same free movement of labour as between members of the European Union. According to the Norwegian statistics bureau Statistisk sentralbyrå there are 72,103 Polish immigrants in Norway per 1 January 2012” “The Polish minority in Iceland is… Read more »
Without the juries Hovi wouldn’t have qualified, thank god they noticed his talent!
And only 16th place in the televoting? Dear God… I guess people hated him for his appearance and sexual orientation :/
I think that the new voting system is great and it’s really interesting to see where the big differences between the jury voting and the public voting are.
“love hovi” yeah that’s why Douwe’s bar was full every night and he had to do two concerts with the Common Linnets because it was so full. That’s why everyone visited his bar. That’s why he has pictures with every other artist. Because he is such a massive “douche” right? Face it, Hovi failed in every aspect and falling down another contestant is pathetic. Douwe apologized yet Hovi acted like a real female dog and didn”t even accept it. And those 7 points? Yeah that’s how arrogant we Dutch are. How dare we forgive someone for being a stuck up… Read more »
@Daan you are just as arrogant and idiot like your evil singer that treated bad to hovi and sanja from serbia only becouse they wanted to take pictures with him… Its must be hard for arrogant duch singer to see that holand gave 7 points to hovi hhhh, its must be hard for arrogant duch singer to see that in the israeli party were 2500 pepole and to the poor duchi singer come maybe 50 pepole… The truth in your face cripi dan… Hovi is the life and u are one big 0
@love “hovi”
English is hard isn’t it? Douwe isn’t a “douche” but a companion to everyone. He was very social the entire week and even had his own bar, he was partying with his friends there all the time. What about “goofy Hovi? Ohhh I can just imagine his sad face when he found out how terrible he did with the televoting and how he placed lower than Douwe. You are exactly like hovi. Arrogant and anti social. :’)
@Stevie
Really?:) I just can’t stop laughing. Are you serious?
@Daan go and and f…… Your self u idiot bitch…hovi is better than u and the arrogant douche singer with his boring song..i feel a sleep when the duche singer sing its just awful !!!!
There is also the possibility that a lot of people put money on Poland to win in the early days when everyone thought Margaret would be their chosen performer and that they picked up the phone for Poland because they wanted their bet to be fruitful.
@Daan dwoe is just arrogant and envy person who went to the media first and tell lies about hovi…..even the duch jury gave hovi 7 points Becouse they know that their singer is arrogant idiot… And u keep envy with the amazing hovi…
WHAHAHA, Juries, for once you did a horrible job by letting that terrible yawn song by that terrible person Hovi through to the final. See that televote Hovi? That’s what you get for being a total rude person! That’s what you get for hating on other contestants and bragging about dumb stuff. That’s what you get for being anti social. Douwe got 11th, 5th in semi by both televotes and Jury :’) Hovi wouldn’t even have qualified when it comes to televotes. Let this be a lesson. EVERYONe was friendly this ESC. Douwe had lots of friends including Sergey Barei… Read more »
@ love hovi
It’s ok, although I think he doeasn’t know me;) dont’t be angry I didn’t want to be rude.
@@ Crittica
sorry my early massage was sent to u by mistake 🙂
@ Ania
Its ok , i dont think hovi like’s you too…
Hovi is the best funny interesting personality in eurovision 2016 by far from every one else !!
@ Crittica
Its ok , i dont think hovi like’s you too…
Hovi is the best funny interesting personality in eurovision 2016 by far from every one else !!
@ Crittica
Israel song is ok ( not so great ) but I just dont’t like Hovi Star. His behavior and appearance irritates me. And I’m starting to think that we should give back our points because only We – Poland have diaspora. Thank you SO much.
i think belgian votes were due to diaspora
So, by the old voting system Poland wouldn’t have made it into the final.
Then why people are saying, that Australia would’ve won the final by the old system?
I’m pretty sure that majority of those people who voted for Poland in the final (read: diaspora) would’ve voted for Ukraine instead, rather than Australia or Russia.
BRILLIANT job juries. This is a SONG contest first & foremost. Israel’s entrt was a total A-class quality of a song & Hovi Star interpreted the song well.
This was the better Semi Final in terms of understanding how the jury and voting scores worked out. It all makes sense to me. FYI I think Poland was marked down by the juries because Michal sang badly during the Jury Semi Final (which is a different performance to the televised Semi).
As for Albania, any song that lyrically makes the singer sound like a teletubby is not going to get many points. “And that’s why i love youuu. Uh-oh!” – it doesn’t work, sorry.
Stop thing with diaspora. They didn’t make so many views at YT and they didn’t put Micha? at 6th in iTunes… Of course they helped Poland but even J.K.Rowling loved him or Hozier
Why did the jury place Albania last? Like Eneda’s voice was perfect, the song was very difficult to sing… stupid juries
Lithuania and Poland are due to diaspora. Poland has had 12 and two 10s from the uk and all the songs where completely different styles and levels. are you telling me that’s due to the public recalling liking each song. Lithuania got 12 this year and last year with different styles of music where both songs really loved that much by the public. Not many people vote in Euro vision who are british and many like to give to patriotic vote me cousins do it all the time in Malta haha
It wasn’t just highlighted in cases like this semi final because almost all favorites have qualified to the grand final.
The juries are doing good this year, but disadvantages are still there like maintaining their biases as to who to vote already regardless of the countries’ songs.
So Belgium beat Poland in the televoting and in the final Laura was 150pts behind? the televoting is so unfair…
Of course the juries should stay! Without the juries this year, we would’ve had a throwback to 2008 in two different ways. First of all, the last time we had no juries was 2008. And secondly, the winning song from this year’s televote sounded like it was straight out of 2008. While I enjoyed 2008, let’s keep things the way they are. This jury-televote voting system is much, much better than the televote-only system. The fact that Belarus would’ve qualified with the juries absent underscores my point. Even if you liked the song, there was truly lots of gimmickry in… Read more »
Seeing Belgium doing that well in semifinal and then their final result proves that draw can really hurt your chances. Belgium beat Poland, Bulgaria and Lithuania in televote!
Ukraine didn’t win televote by a huge difference but suddenly in final she got like 320 points? And same to jury vote that in final Jamala could beat Laura for 80 points but not in the semifinal? Kinda awkward.
Israel should be top 10, but they dont have neighbors in Europe to vote for them..
I voted for hovi from France, at least the jury’s were professional and gave hovi 4 place!