Krajowe Eliminacje 2017 Eurovision poland

Last year Poland’s Michal Szpak climbed all the way to third place with televoters at Eurovision…but finished next-to-last with the international jury.

And on Tuesday it became clear that broadcaster TVP wants to address that imbalance in results as it revealed the official rules for Krajowe Eliminacje — Poland’s national selection for Eurovision 2017.

The 12-page document outlines the basics of this year’s competition, and includes one very important change: The national final will be determined by a 50-50 split between televoters and a professional jury.

The last time Poland involved a jury at its national final was in 2009, when Piosenka dla Europy 2009 used a 50-50 jury-televote split. The televote favourite won, but Lidia Kopania and her song “I Don’t Wanna Leave” failed to qualify for the grand final in Moscow.

Since then, TVP has either used a national final determined by 100% televote, or the broadcaster has internally selected the entry.

TVP could have reintroduced a jury vote as a way of selecting acts that will appeal to both viewers and the expert panel. Since Poland’s comeback in 2014, their entries have scored very well with the televote but very poorly with juries. In 2015, the jury vote gave Poland just two points.

Krajowe Eliminacje 2017 Rules

Among the other notable rules:

  • Five to ten participants will be selected to compete and all of them must be Polish citizens
  • The participants are not allowed to take part in any other national selection contest for Eurovision
  • Songs can be in whatever language the artists choose
  • Artists must submit their songs by January 20
  • TVP will reveal the artists to the public no later than January 27
  • The song that receives the most votes in the televoting will earn 10 points, the second most popular song 9 points and so on
  • Each jury member will also rank the songs from 1 to 10 (and the act with the highest jury score will receive 10 points, the second highest jury score will receive 9 points and so on)
  • The results will then be combined with the maximum score being 20
  • In the case of a tie, the televote decides the winner
  • The winner must send a music video to TVP by February 26

There’s also one very interesting rule.

The document states that the commission can choose one participant for the show without following the rules. They describe this act as a “wildcard”. Could the artist be a member of the Polish diaspora who doesn’t hold citizenship? Are they holding out for a major artist from another country and want to make room for her just in case she agrees? Or are they hoping to invite a foreign act from another pre-selection after watching talented acts abroad fail to make it to ESC? Very interesting…

The grand final show will be held on 11 February 2017 and will be broadcast live on TVP1.

What do you think? Is Poland making a good choice by reintroducing the jury vote? Share your thoughts below!

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(J)ESC Fanatic
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@Reminder

It’s funny how you use different accounts and nicknames each time you post. 😀

Anyway, you can’t really prove anything with your “facts”. The juries vote fairly, with very few exceptions.

an esc fan
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an esc fan

and London, I guess he was there too. I can’t wait for the new season to start.

an esc fan
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an esc fan

Yes I understand that, because I’m not polish and I like Color of your life. I saw videos with pre-parties from Amsterdam and Tel Aviv.

Reminder
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an esc fan

He didnt get vote only from countries with huge Polish diaspora. People love that song , see video at eurovision parties in many countries , crowd sing with him. Same with song from Poland 2014, people from many countries not only polish diaspora vote for that song , they vote for tham not for song , vote because of sexy performance . In 2016 people vote for Poland becuase they like song.

Reminder
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Reminder

(J)ESC Fanatic Sweden won in 2012, 2015 and other strong contender for win got many points less than Sweden by juries. Russia in 2012 (only 11 with juries with 94 and only 11 points lower of Sweden, Sweden got that year 296 points with juries, second Serbia 173, amazing Rona, Pastora only 157, Nina only 154 almost half points of Loreen , and Italy (only 6 th with juries in 2015) and Russia in 2015 (3 with juries . Both year Sweden, Seriba had only was overrated in juries points same with Australia in 2016. Theri song dont deserved 320… Read more »

an esc fan
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an esc fan

Michal Szpak won the televote because polish like him, and for that he got diaspora votes in grand final. What i’m saing is that diaspora votes are not a given to be taken for granted. The jury can choose a song that not even diaspora likes, and in this case diaspora will not spend money to vote. Maybe that explains why in other years diaspora was not so helpful. I’m still a fan of 100 % televote even if it is so imperfect. Or they can send Edyta Gorniak. Some countries just send their best act again, so they can… Read more »

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@Peter

Sweden and Australia are not overrated. The juries give them the place they deserve, because they just send amazing entries all the time. And thank you for reminding us the two crimes juries prevented from happening, Sweden not qualifying in 2008 and Italy winning in 2015.

Napaw
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Napaw

@Victoria but you’re okay with Doda Elektroda being called a “legend”? xD

Napaw
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Napaw

“Five to ten participants will be selected to compete and all of them must be Polish citizens” whoa, that’s pretty exclusive o_O

Peter
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Peter

(J)ESC Fanatic

Juries prevented Sweden from qualifying in 2010 but in 2008 thanks to juries Sweden go to final, and after that thank to Sweden we have change in voting from 2013, change in order of apperance. Italy didn t won only because Sweden , becuase Sweden are overrated in juries points every year since 2012, and Australia . Malta and Azerbaijan are in that group, but Malta dont have strong televote powers like Sweden,Australia,Azerbaijan.

Victoria
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Victoria

@Polegend Godgarina: Don’t you think naming Margaret a “legend” is a bit too much? 🙂 The girl still has to improve her live performances.

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@PP

I’m afraid your assumptions are not totally correct. I mean, come on, you said that the juries love Sweden and Italy, when it was actually them who prevented Sweden from qualifying in 2010 and Italy from winning in 2015. Also, you said that they don’t like San Marino and Belarus, while they wanted San Marino to qualify in 2011 and 2013 and Belarus in 2015.

Conclusion: the juries vote for entries, not for countries. Only exceptions are Malta (that possibly bribes them) and as you said, EBU’s baby, Australia.

Ugnius
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Ugnius

@wiwibloggs and why there are no news about Lithuanian national selection ? The information about it is already revealed (however, only in Lithuanian) http://www.lrt.lt/projektai/eurovizija/naujienos/31/158606/nacionalineje_eurovizijos_atrankoje_nematytas_vedeju_duetas#skip and it starts on 7 January whilst the final will be on 11 March (yep, 10 weeks instead of previuosly mentioned 8). And they’re doing no preselections this year, so all 51 participant will be shown on TV during first four heats.

PP
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PP

I agree with Poland result with juries in 2014 but not in 2016. People love polish song from 2016 and this result with televote is not only points from diaspora , you can see that on eurovison party many in crowd sing his song.
In 2014 people vote for Poland because stage performance not for song.

PP
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Juries at Eurovision like Sweden, Australia (EBU baby), Malta, Israel, Azerbaijan, Italy , and in last few year in that group hoin The Netherlands and sometimes Belgium.
Juries don t like Poland, San Marino, Belarus and sometimes Germany especialiy in last 2 year.

PP
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PP

Michal Szpak would be in TOP 10 or even TOP 5 with juries votes if he with same song represent Sweden, Australia,Malta, Azerbaijan.

(J)ESC Fanatic
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The wildcard rule is probably intended for NAPOLI to be eligible to take part. I wouldn’t miss her though. As much as she has a great voice, her song is the most mediocre and generic of the season.

Colin
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Colin

If by any case Michal Szpak finished low, this drastic change of rules would make sense. However, televote favorite, Szpak brought them to fifth place in the finals, third by televote alone. So, why mess with that?

Fergy
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Fergy

3 years of being near the bottom in the Jury voting is probably why they’ve brought back the NF Jury.

Robyn Gallagher
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Regardless of the Napoli clause (!), it’s most interesting that the broadcaster is introducing a jury. Poland can always count on televotes, whether it’s from diaspora or just the general public swayed by busty milkmaids or uplifting ballads. But if the jury finds such entries tacky or cheesy, resulting in a low ranking, that’s got to be frustrating for Poland year after year.

If Poland can get the balance right with their entry – a crowd pleaser that’s also a jury pleaser — they could easily win ESC.

Azaad
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Azaad

Given that Napoli is involved with Belarus’ selection, it appears that she’s ineligible to participate in Krajowe Eliminacje. She’s already doing Turkiyvision for Poland.

tt
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tt

LOL Napoli was awful. why are people even talking about them??

Polegend Godgarina
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Polegend Godgarina

@ stephen podesta – you do realize that in 2014 and 2015 your beloved panel of experts from TVP internally selected Poland’s entries, right?

Polegend Godgarina
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Polegend Godgarina

I want Margaret and Doda to compete. Two LEGENDS. Gosia Andrzejewicz could also put on an interesting show.

Alex
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Alex

@Krzysztof Poland

http://vk.com/hasmikjan

stephen podesta
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stephen podesta

This is a good move to include jurys votes, but why even bother, just internally select the artists and be done with it, just find someone that can really sing well and also can sing live, that is the best ingredient and then choose the song to fit that artist. The public have no idea what makes a song great, a panel of experts in the music field are the only ones that can be trusted. The fact that jurys have given a low score each time proves that the public no squat about a good song and it is… Read more »

Mark
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Mark

Why would anybody want NAPOLI to compete if last year she had the worst song…? There are thousands of better artists

Krzysztof Poland
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Krzysztof Poland

MrBrightside, the wildcard rule allows NAPOLI to compete even when she is!

Krzysztof Poland
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Krzysztof Poland

Also, if anybody knows how to contact Hasmik… please convince her to apply for Ukrainian selection, she is to good to be just one of the rejects from that rigged Armenian travesty!

MrBrightside
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MrBrightside

Return of Napoli is NOT possible – because they are taking part in belarusian selection.

Krzysztof Poland
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Krzysztof Poland

Seems that they want NAPOLI to compete again. Or maybe to invite Hasmik Shiroyan… ok, that will never happen, but return of NAPOLI is probable.

Polish guy
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all about polish and european selection twitter.com/Eurowizja2017

Nick
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Nick

i feel like they’re trying to slyly refer to some artist in the ending bit but I have no idea who they’re talking about haha