They won Festival da canção 2017 and performed for Portugal at Eurovision 2018.But at the end of combined voting, Cláudia Pascoal and Isaura were left out in the cold, and at the bottom of the leaderboard.

And newly revealed full televote results help explain why: Despite winning over the home crowd, the dynamic duo placed last in televoting in 26 countries.

Serbia, Slovenia, Spain and Finland also placed last in at least one country’s televote. Serbia was wooden-spooned seven times, Slovenia five, Spain four and Finland just once.

Moldova was the only country where Saara Aalto came last in the televote.

Who came eleventh in the televote?

If there’s a narrow spread at the bottom, there’s a broader one at the top. Seventeen countries came eleventh in at least one country’s televote.

Estonia and Norway tie for most eleventh place finishes at six apiece. Estonia appealed across Europe, coming close to points in Australia, Azerbaijan, San Marino, Serbia, The Netherlands and the United Kingdom.

Before the contest many expected Alexander Rybak to perform well in the Nordic and Ex-Soviet nations. And Ukranian and Finnish televoters both placed him eleventh in their votes. He also took eleventh place in Czech Republic, Israel, Montenegro and Poland.

France‘s Madame Monsieur were eleventh in five nations, while Austria‘s Cesar Sampson was eleventh in a further four.

Two countries fans had expected to be high in televoting (but not high enough) were Australia and Sweden. Both placed eleventh at least once. However, neither appear to have “just missed out”. Australia only took eleventh once and Sweden twice.

Full televote 11th place results:

Australia 1 (Lithuania)
Austria 4 (Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Portugal)
Bulgaria 2 (Armenia, Italy)
Czech Republic 1 (Georgia)
Estonia 6 (Australia, Azerbaijan, San Marino, Serbia, The Netherlands, United Kingdom)
Finland 1 (Albania)
France 5 (Greece, Moldova, Romania, Slovenia, Switzerland)
Germany 3 (Bulgaria, FYR Macedonia, France)
Hungary 1 (Russia)
Ireland 1 (Malta)
Israel 1 (Denmark)
Italy 2 (Norway, Sweden)
Lithuania 3 (Belarus, Belgium, Iceland)
The Netherlands 3 (Austria, Estonia, Germany)
Norway 6 (Czech Republic, Finland, Israel, Montenegro, Poland, Ukraine)
Sweden 2 (Latvia, Spain)
Ukraine 1 (Hungary)

What do you make of the results? Are your surprised by Portugal’s result? Or by Estonia and Norway’s eleventh place results? Let us know in the comments below!

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jdplatt

Portugal didn’t deserve the result it got. It was probably one of the better host country entries in a while…the last time one was decent was Sweden 2013, Azerbaijan 2012, and Germany 2011. Norway, though, got what it deserved. It was a weak song. Rebecca should’ve gone to Lisbon instead.

John
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John

The decision to perform again following the stage invasion should not have been left to SuRie and the UK team. The EBU should have insisted that the “judges” performance from the previous night was replayed at the end of the last entry in the Grand Final. This was the least that UK deserved and would have probably resulted in a better result from the public vote.

Heli
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Heli

Now, this is very typical. Blaming Europe (in this case the EBU) for poor British judgement. How could the EBU be held responsible and force UK?…

Nathan
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Nathan

The UK chose not to perform again, and to be honest I do not want SuRie representing my country again, her jury performance was horrific, no wonder we did so badly. The stage invasion saved us from getting last placr

miguel
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miguel

the thing is that jury voting was introduced in order to correct televoting based on neighbourhoods and polítics, but if we take a look to detailed results we can see that members of juries also behave and vote according to geography and political links, so that’s not a solution for having final results attached exclusively to music. but I guess that’s the history of the eurovision song contest…

beccaboo1212
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Russia selects their Junior Eurovision 2018 entrant tomorrow. 🙂

Michael Kavodi
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Michael Kavodi

Politics rule. Despite the fact that Israel won, they received no votes from countries that they have poor relations with like Iceland and Ireland. At least the phone in votes were fair. Long live Israel.

joe
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joe

not true! Iceland gave Israel 8 jury point (3rd place) plus 7 from televote. Ireland gave Israel 7 jury point (4th place) plus 6 from televote. and, Israel don’t have poor relations with those countries.

Tony bebbington
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Tony bebbington

You be honest Eurovision is a complete and utter fast now it’s a real com. Too much politics. Then contest is one part, AND the voting is completely different. It’s about time UP pulled OUT NOW. Definatly once We are OUT of Europe then we should NOT pay nothing towards its anymore and finish the contest.because even we do enter a decent song, WE WILL NEVER WIN…….. too many block voting.

Heli
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Heli

Well my dear, whether you like it or not UK is part of Europe. That will never change. If you choose to not participate in our institutions and cultural manifestations, in other words being a pariah, that is entirely up to you. Just remember that maybe with a more positive atitude and without moking us all the time you could have sent much better songs and have better results.

Eurovisionary
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Eurovisionary

Doubt you are from the UK, trolling most be so much fun (insert eyeroll emoji). Out of Europe? I don’t think a referendum can change geographical locations of countries.

Soren
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Soren

Oh yes, the block voting. That’s why Portugal won last year, because all its neighbours voted for them.

Alex
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Alex

Also, Serbia should have been lower in televoting if it hadn’t been for diaspora and Balkan countries. The general public didn’t like it at all and preferred Australia (no last place in televoting)/

Alex
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Alex

Portugal had a lovely staging nothing needed to be changed. The problem was that the song itself is more for radio and not a TV competition.

I was shocked to see juries ignoring this, so weird voting for Israel and Australia while ignoring Portugal.

Tully
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Tully

As much as I love o jardim, it just didn’t stand a chance. There was nothing that made it stand out. I think a different staging might have helped

Lili
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Lili

I think “O Jardim” was pure magic, the staging was perfect for the song and it truly touched me everytime I hear it. I’m disappointed it did so poorly but whenever my fave song fails to do well I always go back to my hipster roots and just say, “this song is too good for people to get.”

Eurovisiononlinecontest
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Norway and Estonia is just bad luck.
I think Portugal was a nice song and performance but nothing anyone would spend money on…

Jake
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Jake

Let’s not forget Portugal sang right before U.K. So basically they sang a low key song and then something crazy happens on stage–how are you gonna remember who sang before.

L'oiseau
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L'oiseau

Good point

TheDrMistery
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TheDrMistery

There was a break between Portugal and UK and I think the moment SuRie has started, Portugal was already forgotten by majority of the voters. I think something like Salvador had in the background, jardim means garden after all, would help it stand out.

Christian
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Christian

I think the result shows us that Portugal winning last year was an one-of-its-kind victory and we might wait another 60 years for their next victory. Oh, and just take a look at the Swiss results which are usually heavily influenced by their immigrants. This time, 12 Points went to Serbia but at least a few to Germany and Italy as well, which wasn’T usual for Switzerland some years ago I think.

Heli
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Heli

Firstly it was not 60 years that Portugal had to wait. It was 53. So if you want to do this kind of derogatory statements, then at least inform yourself first. Secondly, you cannot jump into conclusions about the next 60 years (when maybe you will not be around anyway) from one bad particpation. Last year Germany came last, this year it came 4th… to give but one example. RTP very succesfully changed the perception and interest on the ESC. So maybe there are good things to look forward to. And thridly, you cannot change history. The fact remains that… Read more »

Fatima
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Fatima

I must wade in and defend Christian, he simply said that it might be a long time before a country wins again in the contest. We think the same here in the UK. We’ve not won for 21 years and it might be another 21 at this rate. Also, didn’t Sobral himself say “nothing has changed since I won.”?

Christian
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Christian

I wrote a reply on Heli’s answer but it hasn’t been published. Is there any of the admins around? Angus? William? Where’s my comment?

Heli
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Heli

That can be said about any country and not only about Portugal and above all has nothing to do with Cláudia and Isaura. About Salvador… Isn’t he right? All the fears that the ESC would turn into a boring snooze fest were unfounded much to the relief of the majority of the ESC community. So what is your point?

Love love peace piece
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Love love peace piece

When I checked Swiss televote it did give 12 pts to Portugal.

Heli
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Heli

No. Swiss televote gave 10 to Portugal.

Charli Cheer Up
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Charli Cheer Up

Poor Portugal. They should’ve done more with the staging to create the ‘garden feeling’ of the song since having the song in Portuguese would make it difficult to translate to viewers. Forget about Salvador’s motto of “Music is about feelings not fireworks”. His song was just on a different league from everyone else. It was well composed lyrically AND musically(they had a real orchestra during recording!).

Mark
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Mark

Next we’ll be seeing the EBU move towards a percentage based televote. Millions of votes and dollars are wasted because they only count the top ten from each country.

Jules
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Jules

Sorry wiwibloggs but I don’t understand that article. Australia came last in the televote with only 9 points. Portugal and Spain share the same position with 18. Portugal came last in the combined vote, but not in the televote nor the jury vote. Is this some kind of agenda from Agnus?…

Mark
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Mark

If you read the article the you’d understand that this is where individual countries came with individual countries televote. When the points combined Australia came last.

Jules
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Jules

Understood. My bad. Thanks

Polegend Godgarina
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Polegend Godgarina

And Portugal would have gotten 0 hadn’t they had a lot of immigrants in France and Switzerland.

Maxence
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Maxence

This is just the kind of music People listen to in France, that’s why they got some points from us

Maldric
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Maldric

Portuguese community in France is not enough to get 8 points…a lot of french must had voted too…a french press placed Portugal among the favorites. In Luxembourg they would have 12 points in the televote for sure.
I guess Portugal was the only country who didn´t received points from neighbor televote

Polegend Godgarina
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Polegend Godgarina

Uh, France always gave Portugal at least 8 points.

Maldric
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Maldric

always? remember Turkey? If we were in the 60´s or 70´s yes! Portuguese community was the biggest one in France…not anymore

L'oiseau
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L'oiseau

Well, last year 12 😉

L'oiseau
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L'oiseau

Very unfortunate, but true.

Polegend Godgarina
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Polegend Godgarina

Also I did the televote averages and Ukraine resulted 12th. Lithuania and Serbia were also considerably lower than their official rank–clearly because these countries get a lot of high points from neighbors/countries with a lot of their immigrants, but they rank low elsewhere.

Jo.
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Jo.

Serbia always do better with the televoting in the final. They even came 11th in 2016, after barely qualifying from the semis.

Polegend Godgarina
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Polegend Godgarina

In 2016 they got 72 televote points from other Yugoslav countries, and 4+4 from Italy and Austria which have relevant Serbian immigrant communities. Basically would’ve been 0 without neighbors.

T. Barto
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T. Barto

We the public believe the entire Eurovision contest is “fixed” right from the start. It has fallen into decay. When the contest first began, it was just the particular county’s singer (with no extras-dancers, fire, special effects, etc) singing in his/her native language. Voting wasn’t fixed. Now it is. Scandinavian countries vote for their neighbors even though the song is terrible; Balkan countries do the same, et., etc. Where is the fairness in this contest. Since the judging aspect can’t be made better, why don’t the sponsors just broadcast it as an entertainment program instead of a contest?

frysk
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frysk

Never talk what the publilc believes. It is not true either. Yes, neighbours often vote for eachother because theis musical taste might be more comparable. And the voting between Greece and Cyprus is just palin silly, which does not happen between other countries. So if the voting was really fixed, we would have the same winners and losers every year§ There is an enormous variations of winners, from hte north to the south, from the west to the east, so actually what you’re saying is rubbish, Please speak for yourself!

Hans Wollstein
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Hans Wollstein

This whole meme that Scandinavians vote for each other no matter how bad the song is of course , nonsense. What’s more, it’s demonstratively nonsense. For goodness sake, just look at this year’s voting patterns. And when you say the Balkans what you really mean are those five countries that not many years ago were one. YUGOSLAVIA. How could they not vote for each other? You don’t think Wales and Scotland would? In reality, the biggest wonder if Eurovision is how many neighbors that don’t vote for one another. Spain-Portugal, France-Belgium, Belgium-Netherlands, All The German speakning countries. Once in a… Read more »

Tibor
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Tibor

You’re right, it’s no wonder that the televote is what it is in these countries. But the national juries should act more professionally.

Polegend Godgarina
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Polegend Godgarina

Wut? Belgium gave Holland 22 points this year.

Caliope
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Caliope

Spain and Portugal don’t vote for each other. Some points sure, but not 12 points are guareented, so this comment makes zero sense. This year Spain got 12 points because there were tons of Spanish people attending the Eurovision in Portugal and they voted for themselves. I am happy for them, their song was way better then others that got more points, they were very unlucky to get 2nd in running order.

Henrikh Mugosa
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Henrikh Mugosa

They were not UNLUCKY to get 2nd in the running order… Remember Christer Björkman in all his *COF* neutrality *COF* decided the running order.

Boomshacklack
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Boomshacklack

Eleni in Greek Interview was asked about the juries and the The Serbian/Australia thing (claims from Balkanika that delegations traded jury points) ” I was happy that Cyprus won the televoting in the semifinal and top2 in the final. For me that’s a real success I don’t care about juries and what 5 people think or what they have been told to vote I also saw some weird things but I don’t want to talk about it. About People Saying Cyprus was the real Winner ”I really liked Netta….she was sad when Israel was falling down by the bookmarkets and… Read more »

Aero
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Aero

Love love Love this comment from Eleni, love Eleni <3

TheDrMistery
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TheDrMistery

Eleni is classy.

perrs
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perrs

I didn t understand huge oscillation in voting from many jury members in semi final and final. Example , voting from Mariette singer from Sweden. In second semi final she put on 8 place The Netherlands , on 9 place she put Serbia and on 10 place Ukraine. In final she put The Netherlands on 20 place , she put Serbia on 24 place and she put Ukraine on 11 place in final. Did The Netheralands and Serbia sang so bad in juries final and Ukraine sang amazing in juries final.

Lourdes
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Lourdes

That’s because she probably liked more the songs from the 1st semifinal + big 5 (which in my opinion were better than all the songs from semi 2, except for Ukraine and Hungary).

perrs
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perrs

Maybe she like more songs from I semi in grand final, but how in final she put Ukraine in 11 place ( she put Ukraine 10 in semi) and she put The Netheralands and Serbia in II semi on 8,9 place but in final far away from Ukraine, she put The Netherlands on 20 place and Serbia on 24 of 26 countries in final , and both coountries was better in her ranking than Ukraine in II semi final.

Robyn Gallagher
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A rank is not a score. In Mariette’s case, in the grand final she *really* liked a lot of the songs from semi 1 and the automatic qualifiers more than most of the songs from semi 2. It meant that most of the “new” songs took up higher places in her ranking, pushing many of the songs from semi 2 down in the rank. If you look at Mariette’s grand final ranking of only the qualifiers from semi 2, a clearer picture emerges. Serbia had eight semi 2 acts ranked higher (same as the semi), while the Netherlands had only… Read more »

Jordan
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Jordan

We need new system of voting similar like voting in Eurovision 1971 to 1973 . It is not fair, that county who wili finished 11 th place in all 42 countries with juries and televote , will get 0 points in total, and maybe some countries will be last in 40 with teleovete and juries, and be in first place in 2 neihgoburs countries with televote and juries and that countries wili get 48 points in total.

nadabethyname
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nadabethyname

My incompetent and doubtfully honest Romanian judges unanimously voted in the semi final for Moldova in an old-fashioned politically biased manner: Moldova was everybody’s favorite, although we all know that no. 2 or no. 3 was their real favorite, but they naively felt as usual that by giving Moldova 12 points they could make Romania great again (mind you, geographically great). Still, in the final, instead of the typical 1-1-1-1-1 landslide, the vote sheet for Moldova looked something like 6-15-5-9-1. What happened? Did they feel a great disturbance in the political force? And don’t tell me that I’m dumb, I… Read more »

Jo.
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Jo.

Also all 5 juries from Portugal ranked Moldova last in the Grand Final.
Anyway, that was one of the first things I noticed from the jury vote this year. They changed a lot from the semi-finals to the final. Is it random? I don’t know, but it’s unusual.
The Cypriot jury is particularly a case to be studied.

Yaa
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Yaa

It’s called corruption, or pure stupidity as in Hanlon’s razor and we are experts in both fields! Salutare!

Matty
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Matty

If Germany would have received points from the televoters in Bulgaria, France and FYR Macedonia it would have reached the 3rd place.

Linnea
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Linnea

But Austria was 11th in four countries and would, in that case, recevied four more points from the televote in : Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Portugal which put them still in 3rd place overall.

Jake
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Jake

I do believe that viewers are less likely to vote for last year’s winner unless they stand out completely. O Jardim was never something that would stand out. BUT….

FACT: Every country that did not advance to the final (with the exception of 2 that have Portuguese diaspora–Swizterland & Belgium) placed Portugal 26. Blaming the country for their shortcomings?

Matt
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Matt

I don’t think televoters work on that kind of united level.

Maldric
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Maldric

portuguese community in Belgium is small…its around 33.000 people

Tibor
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Tibor

The question isn’t so much why Portugal didn’t do well with the televote, but why the juries didn’t save them. In my opinion, the juries should be much bolder in their voting and this should be encouraged by the EBU. What’s the point in having juries, if they award their points not to the artistically more ambitious entries, but to the more streamlined tunes? It was the juries job to save Portugal but they didn’t.

Bryan
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Bryan

No one should blame the juries for Portugal’s failure because Sobral’s female version simply could not impress anyone. Also, the juries did not push forward only the “streamlined tunes” as you refer to them. For instance, Albania was totally controversial as for the Eurovision’s general taste (it was rock, non-commercial, non-mainstream, non-radio-friendly, and not sung in English), and yet the juries loved it. It is originality and talent that impresses the juries, and not “who resembles the previous winner and who does not”. Also, the juries job is not to save anyone from anything. They are not lifesavers but music… Read more »

L'oiseau
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L'oiseau

I agree in general with what you say, except for Cláudia being a copycat of Salvador. Cláudia is a completely different artist. Also the two songs are very different and come from completly different places. The fact that they are slow and sang in the same language doens’t make them alike.

Tibor
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Tibor

I would like to discuss this issue based on as little personal taste as possible. I liked the Portuguese song, I also liked the Albanian song, but this is not what I’m talking about. “O jardim” musically has nothing to do with “Amar pelos dois”, unless you say every slow song in Portuguese is a rip off of every other slow song in Portuguese. You may not like the song, and that’s fine, but that doesn’t make it a copy of anything. The juries loved primarily very mainstream songs like Sweden’s or Austria’s, well produced, well sung, well presented –… Read more »

andrez.
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andrez.

@ Tibor: You read my mind. I thougt exactly the same

Jo.
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Jo.

I think the juries should give a boost to good songs that could be overlooked by the public, as you say, and also diminish the effects of the running order. There’s not really a reason to push “radiofriendly” songs high…if they were really hits, then people would vote for them.

Jo.
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Jo.

That’s the theory behind it, but not what really happens.

Vanilla
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Vanilla

I was in the jury final and unfortunately noticed that the girls from Portugal were out of tune. Isaura finished her lines after Claudia and that was a real shame because like you said they needed the juries to avoid a bad result. The televote rarely go for a song in the same style as the previous year winner and does not like to reward the host country lately. At least is not the dreaded nil points and the same score last year would have been enough to be out of bottom 3.

L'oiseau
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L'oiseau

I also was in the jury final and agree that something was off. In my opinion Cláudia and Isaura failded to make the impression that they made the very first time they presented the song in SF1 of FdC.

Tibor
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Tibor

I haven’t watched the jury final, so it’s difficult for me to say, how bad things went for Portugal on that night. If I believe the wiwibloggs guest who was in the video discussing the split results immediately after the show, Cesar Sampson was also pretty off key and still won the jury vote. And judging by what I heard personally, many of the acts that did fairly well at the end (like Cyprus or Israel) vocally weren’t on point on the night of the final. So I guess the actual live vocal performance isn’t top priority for everyone. And… Read more »

Polegend Godgarina
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Polegend Godgarina

Haven’t y’all realized that the juries vote either according to bias or personal taste?

Tibor
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Tibor

Well, not only the juries do that, and to some extent, that’s nothing you will ever be able to completely eliminate. But if we have juries, I agree that EBU should really remind them what they’re for. For me it’s really unacceptable to see some juries year after year practising shameless bloc vote (negative or positive). If we have juries, they should act professionally and not politically (favoring certain nations or certain parts of the music industry), otherwise they’re useless.

Denis
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Denis

Juries aren’t there to save anyone, they are there to judge! And why would they vote on something in the same vein as last year’s winner? With a weak performance to that? Last year was a bold choice, what was so bold about this?
You don’t win votes by repeating last year, you win votes by being original and standing out!

Tibor
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Tibor

Yeah, I still don’t see the similarity, repeating it doesn’t make it any more plausible.
“O jardim” has a very unique structure //for a Eurovision entry//, no chorus, a very reduced and ambient instrumentation, that’s nothing I have ever heard at Eurovision, certainly not from Salvador. //By Eurovision standards// that’s almost avantgarde. And that would have made it a bold choice.
Juries are there to judge, true. But they’re not there to help very safe and very middle of the road entries. If we wanted that we could rely on 100% televote.

Kris
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Kris

Can someone tell the televote result 2013 reveal style with average placings?

Marc
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Marc

Here you have
1- Israel
2- Cyprus
3- Italy
4- Czechia
5- Denmark
6- Germany
7- Estonia
8- Moldova
9- Norway
10- Austria
11- France
12- Ukraine
13- Ireland
14- Hungary
15- Lithuania
16- Bulgaria
17- Netherlands
18- Albania
19- Sweden
20- Serbia
21- Australia
22- UK
23- Finland
24- Slovenia
25- Spain
26- Portugal

Kris
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Kris

Thanks Marc!! Much appreciated

Maldric
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Maldric

Portugal didn´t deserved the last place, but they totally floped in the televote…
The song was good…it was in my top10…but unfortunately something didn´t worked
The cam angles were amazing, the staging was ok, Claudia´s voice was on point…well its Eurovision
Better luck next time

Safiya
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Safiya

I think the Portugese song was beautiful but it just didn’t translate well on stage. There was nothing particularly interesting and captivating about it. Salvador’s performance was in fact completely different – he performed all alone on small stage and I think that it really had impact.

DAvid
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DAvid

The song from Portugal was dull, and her live performance was uninspiring.

Jo.
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Jo.

Portugal had a great song. I don’t think it flopped because it was too risky, but due to bad staging. I know they wanted to keep it loyal to Salvador’s words, but it was just too dull.
Isaura’s introduction was done in a very anticlimatic way, you could even notice that she waited for Claudia to take the lead at singing. What people at home would think of it…what the hell was that woman doing on the stage?!

Erasmus
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Erasmus

I don’t think so, I really liked the staging and the colors in it. But I agree about Isaura, it’s a bit that in such emotional song, someone just appears in the middle of the song, with no real explanation why..

Maciej
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Maciej

It’s only due to Lithuanian diaspora in the UK.

Juan Cena
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Juan Cena

UK televote had Lithuania coming out on top.

I wonder if “When We’re Old” will be played at any weddings in the UK this summer?

Kim
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Kim

I think we all know the answer to that question…..

Polegend Godgarina
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Polegend Godgarina

The Lithuanian immigrants’ ones, yeah.

GregHUN
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GregHUN

Will you do the same with the juries?