It’s still a long two months until Eurovision, but the bookmakers’ favourite to win Eurovision 2019 — the Netherlands, represented by Duncan Laurence — already has a plan ready for hosting Eurovision 2020 in case of a win.

Those who know something of the Dutch work ethic will probably know that the Dutch are always prepared and quite punctual when it comes to organising an event. Eurovision in Concert regularly slays, right?

Well, a spokesperson for the NPO, the parent organisation of all public broadcasters in the Netherlands, has told RTL Nieuws that a generic scenario to host Eurovision has been in the drawers of the public broadcaster for several years now.

“There is a scenario concerning the outline, but we will only start working with it after the Netherlands has won the final.”

Who would pay for a Dutch Eurovision 2020?

The Netherlands has perhaps one of the most confusing and complex public broadcaster structures in Europe, which needs some explanation.

As a result of extreme divides in society at the time of the surge of television in Europe, called pillarisation, the Dutch public broadcaster became a union of several broadcasters with those broadcasters each having their own political or spiritual identity. This was to give every part of society broadcasting time.

The two broadcasters which came together to form AVROTROS originally had more of a liberal stance, but as with many broadcasters, this stance has become less and less visible as time has gone on. Nowadays, the amount of broadcasting time is allocated by the amount of members each broadcaster has.

As the NPO is the parent organisation of AVROTROS, it will mainly be the NPO that would deal with the finances and the subsidies for Eurovision. The NPO told RTL Nieuws that financing is something that they would obviously discuss with the EBU at a later stage. AVROTROS would, however, still take care of all the creative work in the event of hosting.

The Dutch seem to be fully prepared to take on hosting Eurovision 2020 — if, of course, they manage to win. It’s no surprise they’re keen: They have been waiting to host Eurovision since 1980!

Do you support Duncan Laurence for the win? Or do you think that the Netherlands is rooting for itself a bit too hard? Let us know in the comments box below!

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Henry
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Henry

Mmmmm, so much complaints here about NL being overhyped but i see also 200 comments here… Maybe not overhyped at all , i guess it’s just the most popular entry of this year.

Alex
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Alex

What a great and well put together plan, NL!

Too bad we’re going to Rome. Ah well, there’s always the next time!

Laburnum
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Laburnum

Ok but is this a bad thing tho? I don’t see it as arrogance since they’ve had the idea for some time, and ultimately the best thing for the potential host country to do since we’ve seen some in the recent past struggle. Maybe all countries should do the same just in case?

Dawid
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Dawid

Wait. For. Staging.

Remember Sennek? Amazing song, voice wasn’t bad in semifinals and she flopped hard because staging was bad. Or Bones from Bulgaria. Same thing – terrible staging. It means a lot. If he’ll have bad staging, he’s not winning a thing. Just because song is good, or even the best one, doesn’t mean it’ll end up first.

Henry
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Henry

Yes, you are right but doesn’t this count for everybody who is participating in this contest?

Nicky91
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Nicky91

nah, not for Italy this year i think they got a fab vocalist in Mahmood (same style as Eros Ramazzotti he got in his voice) and that song has got wow factor on its own

Dawid
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Dawid

It does, but some people act like Netherlands already won .-.

Nicky91
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Nicky91

we have already won, most likes on yt and most positive comments too

ESCJudge
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ESCJudge

Somehow I feel, that many of us have our “dream” location for ESC, ha?
I would like ESC to be hosted by UK, Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Austria, Czech Republic, Hungary…
and I speak only about the location (not mentioning the songs) and the attitude (no politics, just fun, LGBT fiesta…)

Anyway, this year, if Netherlands win, or Czech Republic win (that wil not happen) I will be happy also because of the song.
😉

Nicky91
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Nicky91

Ziggo Dome in our Netherlands would make great place for eurovision, already loads of concerts there by big internationally famous artists

good stage too with nice space for props, and also good graphics for backdrop

a fun contest can save eurovision, no lgbt or political crap, just fun and attention for the song, as it used to be before

so #Amsterdam2020 🙂

Luk
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Luk

Poland also would to meet the challenge

ESCJudge
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ESCJudge

I’d be proud to see my country hosting.. but… I know that for now, it would be a mess like in Ukraine and Israel… that’s why I didn’t put Poland on my list.
Public broadcaster is used by politicians mainly for political propaganda and that has nothing to do with professional approch to produce a show like ESC…
Fingers crossed for JESC in Gliwice this November but… well, don’t be be surprised if TVP’s level of production dissapoints you.

Luk
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Luk

For sure TVP not to disappoint JESC

Luk
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Luk

Eurovision it music not policy
Keep our fingers crossed in order to once organize at Poland eurovision

ESCJudge
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ESCJudge

Polish broadcasters professionalism is just like your “English” 😉
Crossing fingers won’t help enough 🙂

Nikki
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Nikki

Mine is the effing coliseum in Rome. But I know is just my inner very enthusiastic Roman loving nerd.

ESCJudge
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ESCJudge

oh! Of course I forgot Italy!!! I’d love ESC in Italy! 😉
Last year they were my favourite!

Melody
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Melody

They wouldn’t waste Colosseum for Eurovision though lol. If Italy ever wins Eurovision, it doesn’t have to be in Rome. They have plenty of other great cities too. It could be in Milan, Turin, Verona etc

Alex
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Alex

Want a fun, LGBT fiesta? Vote for Spain. We know how to party.

ESCJuduge
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ESCJuduge

ok, but… send a song that we could vote for 🙂
I liked 2003 Beth, 2011 Lucia Perez and 2012 Pastora Soler…
But your other choices were most boring and and uninteresting of all others 😉

Melody
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Melody

well now I see why Israel won, people wanted a LGBT fiesta so we got Tel Aviv.

ESCJudge
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ESCJudge

Yup, that’s one of many reasons why Israel won 🙂
Also because of Netta, because of the song, because of being different… 😛

Though, Tel Aviv without a perfect suitable venue and the local conservative politicians is not fitting the “dream location” perfectly 😉

Nicky91
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Nicky91

Duncan Laurence remember the name he’s all time best artist in the world, even the universe same as Iriao last year for Georgia

nothing can go wrong for Netherlands this year, no staging can ruin it for him he also won’t vocally mess up cause he’s perfect

Nicky91
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Nicky91

i prefer his last name De Moor over his stage name Laurence, at the voice of holland he already was a good singer, he only has gotten way better since then

working in sweden, great britain, south Korea and also as vocal coach

marianne
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marianne

Iriao, who????

You’re jinxing it for Duncan, mister….

ohhh, wait….YOU ARE trying to jinx it for Duncan! where are you from?

Nicky91
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Nicky91

i’m not jinxing it for duncan, i have Always liked arcade since its release

i just don’t like it being hyped into odds favourite too soon, or the hype of NL on here

my fave dutch entry still remains 2004 without you by re-Union lovely italian/dutch duo 🙂

dutchie
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dutchie

It wasn’t hyped into the odds favourite, it simply became the favourite based on its quality and distinctive sound. Of course not everyone will like it, but there’s no need for you to start bashing your own entry just for the heck of it. It’s not a good look.

Alex
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Alex

Distinctive MEOWing is a better word for it.

Kirby
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Kirby

Sorry, but… no.

Alex
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Alex

Please let him wear a diaper, that’s a sight the rest of Europe would love to see.

marianne
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marianne

…and why did they host in 1980??? Israel won in 1979 but couldn’t host back to back Eurovision so they turn it back to the EBU, which at first wanted to give it to the UK to host but they’ve forfeited it and it went to The Hague in the Netherlands.

Seems like history can be repeated, 40 years later, where the Netherlands will host the year after it is hosted in Israel…(or if Israel wins again and cant host, once again, back to back, and The Hague gets it again 😉 )

Jonas
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Jonas

I think they re-used the sets from 1976 when they hosted in 1980. Maybe they’re still in storage somewhere.

Stephanie
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It was a different set in 1980 in the same venue, however they did reuse footage in the opening film from the 1976 contest

Nicky91
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Nicky91

Netherlands the arrogant once again

and i’m dutch lmao, but this is why i’m sometimes ashamed to be dutch

arcade is decent but not a winner, it is most overhyped song this year honestly

stommie
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stommie

I guess a lot of people on escforum (especially the Dutch ones) are also ashamed you are Dutch

Nicky91
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Nicky91

the song is decent, Duncan has better attitude than Waylon for sure

but it isn’t worth the hype arcade has no wow moments at all

Henry
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Henry

That’s YOUR opinion, it’s not a fact honey, a lot of people do not agree with you…

Nicky91
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Nicky91

that’s cool, hey if we dutch go with Sharon Den Adel next year (which i hope) you will definitely see me hyping us, and for totally good reasons, she is a awesome performer solo and in within temptation

as for this year, at the end of the day i like arcade so that’s more than enough for me to appreciate it and root for my own country

bastian
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bastian

Watch Nicky changing his opinion again in 3…2…1 lol

Nicky91
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Nicky91

yep yep, attacking me cuz i say the truth UGH so predictable

bastian
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bastian

Yawn…..if ppl want to know the truth they will check escforum.

Polegend Godgarina
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arcade is die tipiese middelmatige ballad….. ek verstaan nie hoekom dit die gunsteling is om te wen nie, ek dink dit is duidelik dat dit sal nie ver gaan nie

dutchie
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dutchie

Alles sal reg kom.

Tamta Music Entertainment
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Hi Nicky 91, I believe you mistook the word “Dutch” for “angry brexit voter”. Please update.

MJESC
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MJESC

the article clearly states that a basic plan of how to stage Eurovision in case of a Dutch win has been around for several years. So that has nothing to do with Duncan or his song. Wiwiblogs has chosen to publish this article because the Dutch entry happens to score well with the bookmakers at this moment. That could easily change once rehearsals start in Tel Aviv, but it might just happen that Duncan does end up the winner. I cannot remember this many positive reactions to a Dutch entry ever and im old enough to remember 1975. Again it… Read more »

Rainer1
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Rainer1

I have francesco gabbani-vibes for the netherlands.

Redhot
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Hi Rensselaer, thanks for the article am I correct to assume that you will also be posting stories about how Italy, Russia, Greece, Iceland and Switzerland are preparing for Eurovision 2020 too?

Polegend Godgarina
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“rensselaer” mess do u live in new york state ?

anonymous
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anonymous

Rensselaer, New York resident checking in
this has been the best coincidence in a while lmao

Polegend Godgarina
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omg…. can u believe i stayed in castleton-on-hudson for a while a few years ago

anonymous
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anonymous

castleton is nice, cute little town
pass through quite often
lol I still can’t believe this

Joe
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Joe

Manhattan represent!

Hongkong hurch
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This is good news, I’d be much happier to visit Eurovision in a friendly cultured city like Amsterdam than a brutal, corrupt homophobic, dangerous city in Russia

Polegend Godgarina
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have u ever even been to russia

Tamta Music Entertainment
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I don’t believe gay People are allowed to visit Russia though, so I doubt she has. I guess if they do go over they may have to sign a contract to pretend to be straight like Sergey had to.

Ksenija
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Ksenija

Propaganda did its job well. I’m glad for all those who is funding it, it paid off.

Vladimir
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Vladimir

Ksenija Russia has a law against LGBT. Gay prides are also prohibited. Where is propaganda here? You should first examine your legislation.

Alex
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Alex

Great gay saunas in Moscow though. Best time i’ve ever had last time I’ve visited (Last year for the world cup). No, they didn’t put me in jail, YES, I was allowed to leave the country, didn’t end up in Siberia.

Polegend Godgarina
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arab countries WISH

Purple Mask
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Purple Mask

Something most of you overlooked:
Thank you to Renske for explaining the history of Dutch broadcasting to us. I genuinely didn’t know anything about the topic until now, so thank you.
I am glad that the Netherlands has a hosting plan. That puts them a big step ahead of Italy, so I hear – the Italy question is genuine, considering that Mahmood also has a chance to win. As for the others, Russia and Sweden will make it look easy to host, and pretty much everyone else in contention has a hosting plan now.

Polegend Godgarina
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italy’s had a hostin plan since 2017 so we’re several steps ahead

stommie
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stommie

How arrogant of you.

Purple Mask
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Purple Mask

No it isn’t. His statement was factual, hence I asked for evidence. Calm your accusations, please.

Purple Mask
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Purple Mask

Really? Do you have a link to that?

Polegend Godgarina
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in 2017 the delegation and rai were talkin bout hosting in turin if francesco gabbani won…. u can just google it

Pok
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Pok

Although I love the song but it’s too predictable for Eurovision. I want something daring.

Jon Hola Sand
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Then vote for iceland

Melody
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Melody

daring not psyco

Polegend Godgarina
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truly the francesco gabbani of 2019

Otto
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Otto

If he is live as bad as Gabbani yes, but he won’t be 🙂

Melody
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Melody

Like Eurovision was a vocal contest. Most of the contestants have always been bad singers.

Conor Murphy
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Conor Murphy

The Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam or the Ahoy in Rotterdam would be good choices for 2020 if The Netherlands wins.
These two venues have had experience doing live shows before such as the MTV Europe Music Awards.

L'oiseau
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L'oiseau

The Ahoy is great. But is its biggest arena big enough, though?

Jonas
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Jonas

Yes, of course. With three live shows and several rehearsals to fill, it is plenty big enough. We don’t always have to chase vast spaces for no reason other than hype.

Nikki
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Nikki

Why so many critical people? I don’t see why not, they were the runner up not that long ago and sending good songs since then, have a plan just in case sounds logic. Probably Russia, Italy and Cyprus have also a mild idea of what to do in the case they win, counting how close they have been to it in the last years.

Bella
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Bella

“Cyprus”, lol… They are historically one of the worst performers in the history of Eurovision, and because they pulled a rabbit out of their hat ONCE (with a Greek singer and a song written by a Swede), people think they have a chance to win. This is hilarious…

Nikki
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Nikki

Well, people thought that about Finland and Portugal before their victories too. Improbable and impossible are different things. And as I say, Cyprus was the runner up past year, that must have had them hopes they could actually win one day.

Bella
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Bella

I understand what you’re saying, in theory any country can win. I just don’t think that placing 2nd once means any higher chance of winning in the future (especially not for a country like Cyprus, considering their weak track record).

MJESC
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MJESC

Well there are plenty of positive comments about the song so Replay could win. So can a load of other entries. Some do better with bookmakers than others but on the night itself everything can change. I’d personally prefer this year’s Greek entry over the Cypriot one and would like to see the Dutch entry win, but than im Dutch and i happen to like the song (a first in a long time for Dutch entries for me).

blondboybc
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blondboybc

Jumping the gun a bit, don’t you think? They are simply basing it off of bookies…

Fair and honest
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The reason this article was written was because wiwi support Russia so will want to generate this reaction from u and put you off voting Netherlands. Do you not think Russia, Cyrus and etc are already looking at plans in case they win?

Stan
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Stan

i think every country competing should have a plan in the drawer in case of a win… or just talk to ireland or sweden 😀

Pachaz
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Pachaz

Completey incredible All this crazyness about the Netherlands and their boring song ! Please Wwi, stop alll
these posts to promote Duncan….i cannot stand it anymore…..

Milla
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Milla

I couldn’t have said it better.

Boohoo
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If I were you I would cry in a corner about it. For once no Sweden hype and Russia “news” boohoo what a crime

Otto
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Otto

They always write more about the favourite as that is the artist that most people are interested in.. wiwiblogs is full of not interesting articles about non-news so just read the ones that interest you and skip the others. 😉

Trh
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Trh

Maybe that “crazyness” will win and very rightly so to restore some quality after last year’s chicken victory

Harm
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Harm

When you hate it so much why reading all the articles about the Netherlands. Let’s enjoy every song and country and let the best song win in May!!!!!!!!!

EZz
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EZz

The Netherlands have a nice song, but they got to slow down because if they are already celebrating just cause their the bookies favourite, France, Italy, even Cyprus would of all been prepared considering they’ve all been bookies favourites. I see the Netherlands doing well, but winning I’m not sure but good luck to them.

MikolasFan
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MikolasFan

The Netherlands don’t celebrating anything yet, not sure Duncan or his team even aware of this articles,he is in Tel Aviv now as i know, the broadcaster just saying they’re ready to host if anything , we, in Bulgaria been saying the same thing almost every year , lmao!

Nicky91
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Nicky91

why, it is a easy predictable year, we are the confirmed winners already

Fast Food Music Lover
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Fast Food Music Lover

Ukraine left the chat

Kobi
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Kobi

Sadly

Andrii
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Andrii

What about Ukraine?

OrangeVorty
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OrangeVorty

In terms of giving a country hosting rights, I’d be happy with a Dutch win.

Ffs
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Ffs

I love the Dutch entry this year but this brainwashing has got to stop. Every year they shove a song down our throat and all the sheep fall for it. Don’t get me wrong , I think th3 Netherlands will be Top 3 this year but this constant propaganda is becoming a bit annoying

Rimig
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Rimig

Wiwibloggs does this every year. Last year there were hardly any posts about the Netherlands, but every time Netta sneezed there was a post about here.
The Netherlands is my absolute favorite to win, but wiwibloggs should do their best to pay more or less equal attention to all entries (and this particular post is BS)

Darren
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Darren

I tend to agree
I’m sure a majority of countries, especially those deemed as favorites this year, are considering hosting options for 2020, not just Netherlands.

Litla hata brandari
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Litla hata brandari

Come on, you must understand that Wiwibloggs is a company, making most of their money during February and may of each year. Let them post about the artists who obviously bring in most of the clicks, ad revenue and search engine benefits. I understand what you’re saying, but if we want this platform to prosper, we need to deal with this. And, to add a bit, on average, we’re not coming here to comment Montenegro’s entry, let’s be real.

Rimig
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Rimig

Hahaha Monte…who?
No, seriously, I do understand what you are saying, but still a little bit more equality would be appreciated. Else, instead of definig themselves as a site devoted to the ESC they should say thei’re a site devoted to the “top 5 favourites of the ESC according to the bookies”.

bastian
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bastian

Just relax people. Its normal to have a hosting plan in case you win. Every broadcaster should have one in case it happens and im sure a lot of them already have. No need to hate on the Dutch broadcaster. And i think EBU would be very happy knowing the Dutch take this so seriously, who would have thought after their bad years 😀 A Dutch or Belgian win is what will happen soon, so yall either embrace it or continue on hating, it wont change the fact that it will happen this year or within 2-3 years.

MyEuroVision
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MyEuroVision

As a Dutch person myself, I agree that the Netherlands is given too much of attention on this site lately. Not because it’s a bad song, on the contrary, I generally feel it’s one of the better songs this year, but given it that much attention will raise people’s expectations that it can only dissapoint when it’s not thát great in may. And of course now Holland is a contender for the win after 44 years and with still holding a record of non-qualifying, Dutch media will publish many and many articles on Eurovision because it’s such a rare situation… Read more »

MikolasFan
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MikolasFan

agree, and hating on Duncan it s like hating on puppy, only heartless evil people can do this, he is humble prince of the year 🙂

Mari
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Mari

Favourites are always hated, better get used to it, ’cause it will only get worse next month 😛

Jo.
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Jo.

Can they bring Luxembourg back if they win? We need the Benelux with the Lux.

L'oiseau
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L'oiseau

I agree!

h7efuwefewvyi8
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h7efuwefewvyi8

Can they bring back Andorra? Spain need Andorra.

gilpgilp
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gilpgilp

Many people here have mentioned Ziggo Dome – wouldn’t Amsterdam Arena be better?

JLK
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JLK

Never gonna happen, Ajax definitely won’t agree

gilpgilp
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gilpgilp

But they do have music events in the Arena. Amsterdam Music Festival is held there.

Jonas
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Jonas

Right…but they probably don’t have to give up the arena for 3-4 weeks for that festival…?

JLK
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JLK

True, that takes a few days and since Ajax doesn’t train in the arena it doesn’t matter for them. It would be totally different for Eurovision.

gilpgilp
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gilpgilp

Ajax doesn’t even have matches at the end of May, do they? It would be far better to have a 50,000 person capacity than 17,000. Other countries such as Denmark have done this before.

An American ESC Fan
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An American ESC Fan

The thing about the 50k thing, though, is that bigger isn’t always better. Parken was certainly an enormous venue for lots of fans, but it’s been said that the acoustics weren’t very good, a lot of the audience couldn’t see the stage, and other various issues.

While 17k people is a lot less than 50k (duh), it would be a lot easier and better to manage.

Ernesto
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Ernesto

Anyway, the final result with 50k was kind of disappointing. It would be way more difficult and expensive to make a good TV show (which is the important part). Ziggo dome is ok, and there are a lot of other places to do it outside Amsterdam.

Jonas
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Jonas

Also, back in 2001 there was only one show to fill the stadium for. Good luck filling it for two semi-finals and numerous dress rehearsals. Don’t forget this is, after all, a television show – people don’t even have to leave their homes to watch, why would they be inclined to pay a fortune to sit a mile away with bad acoustics?

Micha
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Micha

Amsterdam Arena ist booked for UEFA Euro2020 🙁

voix
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voix

*Bjorkman has entered the chat and he isnt happy*

Laburnum
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Laburnum

So if the Netherlands win, at least we will start the new decade with a fantastic show

dutchie
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dutchie

Wow, some people need to drink a little less coffee or whatever… all Duncan has done is release his song, perform it twice, and give a few interviews. That’s it. Everything else, including some grand masterplan to force him to win, is all in your imagination. The guy himself is probably the most humble artist you’re going to find. Remember this is the very first single he ever released and until 2 weeks ago nobody knew who he was, nor did anybody care.

Max
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Max

I think the Netherlands would be a perfect host for a modern competition without these dumb political problems. A winning song which has nothing to do with politics would be also great

Vincent
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Vincent

I didn’t even realised that! But looking back it would be nice to have a host country where political controversy would not overshadow everything indeed. But people always associate Eurovision with crazy and ridiculous acts, political statements, neighbouring voting and other controversy. So it would be nice to have a winner again which is not connected to that, like Sweden (2015), Denmark (2013) and Sweden (2012). It should be about music and quality again please.

Azuro
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Azuro

How presumptuous.
Don’t count your chickens before they hatch.

Matt
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Matt

I don’t think they are, this is something they’ve had for a few years, makes sense giving they came second in 2014, they probably decided then let’s have a blueprint ready in case the time comes when we do win.

bastian
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bastian

again: read it, dont take any conclusions just yet. But i guess a lot of people are commenting here since they like to hate on every fav each year. so whats new?

Ara
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Ara

Honestly, everything will come to how the live performance at ESC is, it can be either hit or miss…we seen this many times before, many have fallen…remember 2014, Austria climed the odds like crazy after the semifinal…anything can happen

PaDim
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PaDim

We can’t really be sure about anything.,we have witnessed great surprises in the past. My potential winners (I don’t like all of them, but I see potentials in winning) Netherlands, Russia, Switzerland, Cyprus, Greece, Spain, Slovenia, Iceland and Spain.

Dundn
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Dundn

https://youtu.be/a46ZZipCNHY Katherine Duska slaying live

jack
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jack

OMG THOSE VOCALS! IF JURIES DONT SUPPORT HER IT WOULD BE A SCANDAL

Nicolas
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Nicolas

She hasn’t Ingrosso’s abilities. No reason for the juries to support her.

Andy
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Andy

Abilities as in being Swedish? Because then you’re right, unless you are Australia or Sweden most likely you won’t be supported by the juries.

Maclaren
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Maclaren

I am having the strongest deja-vu with France 2016 and Italy 2017

Oslo Dutch
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Oslo Dutch

I can remember in 2009 NRK already put a bid on the Telenor Arena way before Alexander Rybak won….. Common sense… I rather prefer this than having a Ukraine 2017 again

Tim
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…and Russia 2016…

NotVotingForDuncan
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NotVotingForDuncan

You know what? Everytime I open this site, all I see is this guy’s face. You know there are other 40 artists you can talk about? You want me to vote for him so much to slap him to my face every minute? Are you pushing everyone to vote for him because he’s your fave 4 evah? You asking if I support Duncan Laurence for the win. Or if I think that the Netherlands is rooting for itself a bit too hard. What I think is that YOU are rooting for him WAY too hard. (I won’t vote for Ned… Read more »

Rainer1
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Rainer1

Thx…….

Rita
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Rita

I hate sweden

Nicolas
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Nicolas

This overhype for NL makes me even prefer seeing Sweden winning. That tells it all.

NotVotingForDuncan
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NotVotingForDuncan

@Nicolas
Ahaha you’re damn right! I’m so tired of this, I liked the song but all this unnecessary overhype is having the exact opposite effect on me. And still 2 months to go!! I wanna die

Jonas
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Jonas

Please consult a therapist, or at the very least, stay off this site. It’s not worth the risk to your health.

Tim
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I gate you

ESC 2019
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Rita! Why are you hate Sweden ?

Henry
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Henry

I think you are a bit overreacting, aren’t you? Duncan don’t know a thing about this website, so don’t blame him for this.. I agree that the Netherlands is very hyped here at wiwibloggs and i think that Wiwibloggs should stop with that, the only thing they achieve with this is that the majority who visit this forum are tired and done with it and i read so much hate about the Dutch entry, this is not fair.. the Dutch entry is still an amazing, emotional and well produced song and it will do well, hyped or not…

Steef
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Steef

I totally agree!

dygh
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dygh

Hold your horses, cowboy. He is a fan favourite and currently on the number 1 spot with the bookmakers. I think it’s only normal that he gets a bit more attention. If he wasn’t a favourite this article wouldn’t have existed.

Jonas
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Jonas

You obviously have selective vision. Wiwi is in the business of hype, that’s what they do – they hype everybody. If you look at all the articles posted in the last few days, you will see they have given coverage fairly, from Serhat to Sergey. If you don’t like the articles on Duncan, don’t click on them – it’s really not too hard to figure out a solution to your problem.

stommie
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stommie

But still, this is a news item about nothing. I am Dutch and I am not too happy with these articles. I find all the hate it provokes very unpleasant. Duncan is now in Tel Aviv and I read he has an interview with Kan tonight. I now only hope Wiwi doesn’t write about that tomorrow.

Bear
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Bear

Me too. You can only guess that some really hatefull people without any Social life on this blogg are creating multiple accounts to spread hate all Day, and waiting for new (Dutch or any other) articles to send hatefull and envious messages. And you know that they only dare to do this because it’s anonymous. Again, the different authors of Wiwibloggs should consider not writing twenty articles about one country, and look at what collegues already have posted. Maybe even ban some emails, but only in strong cases if they are obvious hate spreading trolls, because hate is the last… Read more »

Frau Loch
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Frau Loch

Are you a Russian troll??

Pachaz
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Pachaz

Totally agrée with you ….

Nicky91
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Nicky91

Respect, and i so hope Duncan becomes the odds fave flop of the year, and next year i as dutch want our national final back, give the public the choice to send whoever we want, and not the power in hands of avrotros elite

stommie
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stommie

Please tell me you are not the Nicky91 of escforum.

Zuzu
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Zuzu

I love the song, but thats a BOLD move over there

Logical Person
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Logical Person

Obviously, since this is going to be a 2012 year scenario.
Netherlands are going to be landsliding both televote and jury vote with ease.

Marc
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Marc

Sweden was not a Televote landslide winner in 2012 tho.
They had juries as usual xD But Loreen beat Russian grannies by only 11 points in televoting. It was really close.

Alessandro Leonardo Gauci
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Please please please stop with overhyping this!

JusticeForMaruv
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JusticeForMaruv

Don’t count your chickens just yet.

bastian
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bastian

Again: first read before you react.

LawStudent
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LawStudent

That’s exactly what the article is saying – they are already making statements that they shouldn’t be saying so early.

stommie
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stommie

Again, they didn’t make a statement. They answered a question by RTL Shownieuws. RTL asked the public broadcaster a question about it and the public broadcaster answered they have some generic plans ready just in case.

bastian
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bastian

sigh, they are not making any statements. Its normal to have a hosting plan in case you win. Every broadcaster should have one in case it happens and im sure a lot of them already have. No need to hate on the Dutch broadcaster, just relax. And i think EBU would be very happy knowing the Dutch take this so seriously, who would have thought after their bad years lol.

poe-tay-toe-chips
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poe-tay-toe-chips

So, the Dutch decided to jinx themselves, huh? That’s very dangerous.

Rainer1
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Rainer1

It’s getting realy ridiculous………

Mirko
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Mirko

In Rome we say “Chi se loda se sbroda” which mean that who is so full about himself will be really disappointed about the future; or in Italy “Non si compra prima la sella e poi il cavallo” or “you have to buy the horse and then the saddle” which mean that people should wait before starting celebrate about something

stommie
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stommie

I am sure this plan was written after the CL suddenly climbed in the betting odds in 2014. So I wonder why this is considered news.

Una
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Una

It’s super obvious that there are at least four countries this year that are going for the win. Nothing unusual about having prepared some sort of plan from beforehand. What I don’t like that much however is alluding to winning as a possibility when the contest is near but not that near though. Some broadcasters and artists do it, well. What’s the pressure? Oh dear. I guess we have to wait until 20 May to find that out.

Chris
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Chris

I’m sure they will put on a great show and they will be indeed a fantastic winner! Good luck to them!

Jonas
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Jonas

Hilversum, The Hague (twice), Amsterdam…if the Dutch win this year, is it time to give Rotterdam a turn?

Skiwalko
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Skiwalko

I think it would be between Ziggo Dome (new, modern, big city, capacity of 17,000 people), Ahoj Rotterdam (again, in the center of big city, capacity of 14,000 people, tho last time renovated more than 20 years ago) and, not likely, Thialf, an ice rink in Heerenven with capacity of 12,500 people. Yeah, it’d rather be Amsterdam.

Tahnee
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Tahnee

Could also be the Johan Cruijf Arena, formerly known as the Amsterdam Arena, which is the home of Footballclub Ajax. It has a capacity of 68.000 for concerts 🙂

Mika
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Mika

The acoustics in the Johan Cruijf Arena are awful. Friends have went to multiple concerts there and each time it was just dreadful. Also, Ahoy recently got renovated to increase capacity. Not 20 years ago. 🙂

JLK
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JLK

Never in a million years would Ajax be okay with that, because they’d have to move, right?

Gino
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Gino

What about the gelredome? Arnhem isnt terribly far from major cities

Frisian esc
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Frisian esc

Thialf has no chance unfortunately. Heerenveen doesn’t have the capacity or facilities to host a modern eurovision and we don’t have any nearby airports. Would be crazy to have eurovision in my home province though xD

Nicolas
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Nicolas

And here we go, they are already trying biasing EBU by giving guarantees so they will be favored. Watch them already draw second half on the final and perform 22 to 24.

Jonas
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Jonas

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Skiwalko
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Skiwalko

But how would you make it happen? Like, they have 50% chance of drawing second half, they DRAW the halfs, unless Duncan has a paranormal powers, it’s just a question of luck.

Nicolas
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Nicolas

It’s easy to fix. Call NL first when qualifiers are announced then put on the pot a 2nd half that is discreetly marked or heavier and voilà you have drawn magically 2nd half.

stommie
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stommie

Are you implying that happened somewhere in the past?

Nicolas
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Nicolas

Have you noticed that the qualifiers are not now randomly announced but it’s the producers that choose the sorting. And the draw is made by the running order of qualifies. Last year a lot of 1st half have been picked by the big 5 + host so there was a lot of 2nd half remaining. And on SF1 they announced Israel and Cyprus very early so statically they already had more chances to draw 2nd half and they both did….

stommie
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stommie

I think most people noticed what happened to Bulgaria in 2017. It was a bit too obvious.

Joa
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Joa

@Nicolas when did this happen? where what country did it?

Nicolas
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Nicolas

I didn’t say it happened i’m just saying that when you want something to happen on a draw there is always a solution to get what you want by playing with the rules you have fixed before.

dutchie
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dutchie

Yeah, the Netherlands is really powerful… that’s why they always have really crappy draws.

bastian
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bastian

who cares, the NL would be great hosts for modern esc. Dont be so jealous.

ESCfan
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ESCfan

“Don’t say Hop until you have jumped”. The old russian proverb.

dutchie
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dutchie

They’re not really saying anything though. Just that they’ve had a plan lying around just in case, for a long time already.

Don’t worry, Sergey will win 😉

Nicolascaceres
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Nicolascaceres

here in Italy we say”non dire gatto se non ce l’hai nel sacco” (“don’t say you got the cat if you don’t have it in your bag”)