On Saturday, The Mamas won Meldodifestivalen 2020, after a thrilling results sequence where the vocal trio ended up with just one more point than runner-up Dotter. Now Swedish broadcaster SVT has released a full voting results breakdown of the all shows in Mello 2020, including the grand final.

The Mamas’ convincing Melodifestivalen victory

One point made all the difference. 

But as the final Melodifestivalen 2020 results show, The Mamas were actually over 100,000 votes ahead of runner-up Dotter. In total the “Move” hitmakers received 1,610,446 votes versus Dotter’s haul of 1,489,636. The result came down to audience votes.

It also appears momentum was behind The Mamas from the beginning of the competition. They received the most votes of any semi-final winner. In Linköping, the ladies received 1,3370,798 votes. It is an impressive feat, when you consider they’re the first act to go to the final from that spot since YOHIO in 2014 and since 2016 the competition opener has always gone to Andra Chansen.

At the final The Mamas picked up top marks from two age groups: 10-15 and 16-29 year-olds. Hanna Ferm picked up 12 from 3-9 year olds, Dotter won the 30-44 year-olds and Anna Bergendahl won the three age groups for the over-45s.

The voting system is designed to produce a winner that reflects the choice of all of Sweden. It also helps mitigate the influence of generations that use the internet more than others. To win acts need to pick up points across all age groups. For this reason there are several instances where acts that failed to qualify had more votes than acts who advanced. If there is a tie on points, the act with the most votes from the audience advances.

Melodifestivalen 2020 results from the Semi-Finals

In Semi-Final 1 the main surprise concerns the Andra Chansen qualifiers. “Ballerina” singer Malou Prytz placed third and Felix Sandman – who had far more streaming success with “Boys with Emotions – placed fourth. Malou was around 66,000 votes ahead of Felix.

Anna Bergendahl won Semi-Final 2 with less votes than Dotter. The “Kingdom Come” star received around 20k less votes than the overall runner-up, but won top marks across more age groups than Dotter did. Fifth place Klara Hammarström received the most votes of any non-qualifying acts in this heat. The fan favourite receive over 950k votes in total.

The biggest margin of victory came in Semi-Final 3. Four-time finalist Mariette won the Semi with a 26-point lead over Mohombi. The quirks of the voting system were also at play here. Anis don Demina picked up more votes than Mohombi, but they didn’t translate into a broad enough appeal across age groups.

She was left out in the cold by the international juries but Hanna Ferm shone during Semi-Final 4. She received 94 out of a maximum 96 points for her performance of “Brave”. She topped every age group at the semi apart from 16-29 year-olds who went for Victor Crone.

For the most part, duel winners at Andra Chansen picked up the most votes from the public too. The only exception came in Duel 2. There Paul Rey won, despite receiving over 20,000 fewer votes than his competition Malou Prytz. Malou actually picked up the second most votes of any act at that stage of the competition. Unfortunately for her, Paul won in five out of eight categories.

What do you make of the full results? What surprised you most? Let us know in the comments below!

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aroncido
aroncido
3 months ago

So Anna Bergendahl lost because people between the ages 3 and 9 disliked her?

Jakub
Jakub
3 months ago

It’s surprising for me how it’s possible The Mamas won televoting?? Immigrants voted for them?? I can’t believe Swedes chose them instead of Dotter or another great Swedish acts

M E
M E
3 months ago
Reply to  Jakub

Eeeh… wtf?

Peter
Peter
3 months ago
Reply to  Jakub

Suuuch a rasist and stupid comment, omg..

ESCJudge
ESCJudge
3 months ago

Twelve hundred thousand votes of difference between first and second place sounds cosmic when you concider that in most countries 120000 is a total amount of all votes….

That doggie in the window
That doggie in the window
3 months ago

off topic but with coronavirus… there could very well be no audience at ESC this year. could one of you write an article analysing the impacts that a lack of audience would have in each entrants’? i get the sense current faves like lithuania/iceland would not work as well without an audience, whilst entries from Norway/Malta/Sweden would probably look better. thoughts?

1TruSeer
1TruSeer
3 months ago

Mostly the rightful winners won, but it’s unfair Malou Prytz didnt make the final despite the bigger number of votes

uzhas
uzhas
3 months ago
Reply to  1TruSeer

No, it is not unfair. Those are the rules of Melodifestivalen.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
3 months ago

Eurovision fans: They’re the public’s favourites but juries ranked them low! Mad
Also Eurovision fans, when the public’s favourites win: Still mad

Miguel
Miguel
3 months ago

Whatever…
The only truth here is that Sweden missed the possibility of sending a firm candidate for a landslide victory in Rotterdam (Dotter).
The Mamas song is not bad, but nothing spectacular and certainly not a winner.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
3 months ago
Reply to  Miguel

Dotter wouldn’t have won Eurovision… (Not saying The Mamas will)

grafton
grafton
3 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

I think Dotter could have won Eurovision. Definitely top3

Pavel
Pavel
3 months ago
Reply to  grafton

Dotter was a female Benji Ingrosso. Rykka’s squats + Italian lasers with a basic Sia-esque song. It could have done well with the juries because of the staging (and because it’s Sweden), but televoters would not voted for this empty shell of a song.

grafton
grafton
3 months ago
Reply to  Pavel

I think you would have been surprised but we will never know. She got a lot of streams/views from abroad, the most of any Mello artist this year, by a huge difference.

Anna
Anna
3 months ago

We must go back to land line phones only in order to go more mature voting!

Erik
Erik
3 months ago
Reply to  Anna

The landline phone infrastructure has been put down in Sweden. Nobody would be able to vote

grafton
grafton
3 months ago

On another note Bulletproof is really an earworm ; i have been listening to it for now one month and I’m still not tired of it! Congrats miss Dotter for that melfest season 🙂 such a redemption after the Cry situation

Una
Una
3 months ago

I finally got to understand more on how the televote works in Sweden. I think it’s great they cover more age groups and that they are on an equal footing despite the number of votes that each group casts. So that one group’s favourite doesn’t overtake the preferences of the rest. But this must be for the app. So I don’t know understand exactly how the whole televote works in the sense that if it’s the app that has the age groups, then what happens with the call and text votes? How does SVT know the age of the people… Read more »

grafton
grafton
3 months ago
Reply to  Una

Its a different category !!

diana
diana
3 months ago
Reply to  Una

They don’t. Since the app was introduced, the kids knew about the free votings and just mass voted for their favorites (usually young, internet viral celebs) and that tended to knock out old favs. That’s why only the app has age groups. The votes through calls and texts costs money which leads to the voters being careful of who they’re voting for

Una
Una
3 months ago
Reply to  diana

Thanks. Now I understand this better.

Colin
Colin
3 months ago
Reply to  diana

And what’s to stop those same kids from registering as 80-year-olds in the app?

Sara
Sara
3 months ago

Let’s remember, the age based voting system was introduced because everyone complained young girls were too influential on the vote and lead to pretty boys winning every year. The same thing that all ESC fans have complained harshly about for years. Now we have this system and something different from a boy pop acts won, and people still complain.

LinusESCfan
LinusESCfan
3 months ago
Reply to  Sara

you know everyone would complain even if we would send a singing elephant, then they woukd have said it was singing to generic or was to dark…..

blueeyed
blueeyed
3 months ago
Reply to  LinusESCfan

They would for sure say that it’s animal cruelty. Swedes just like to complain about everything.

LinusESCfan
LinusESCfan
3 months ago
Reply to  blueeyed

Not me haha. I know the Mamas wont win and im 100% fine with it. I actually dont want Sweden to win for some time. Some countries would say WHAT at that statement.? haha. but Sweden have done SO WELL.

uzhas
uzhas
3 months ago
Reply to  Sara

Complaining and whining is a hobby of ESC fans

Zuljuberta
Zuljuberta
3 months ago
Reply to  Sara

I get it now. However, I think the age groups of 3-9 years olds and 75+ are unnecessary. Most kids at that age don’t even have a phone, and I don’t think many elderly people are into the contest. By the way, could anybody tell me how do the organisers know the age of each voter so that each vote counts in the right age group? Or they simply don’t know? Is there any kind of registration?

LinusESCfan
LinusESCfan
3 months ago

I LOVE our voting system. I dont want 3-15 years olds to decide every year to kick out all artists over 30 from a semi. I dont get those who want the old system back where the teens decided everyting.

Kalle
Kalle
3 months ago

I just can’t except that the group that are 3- 9 years old can hand out 12 point and that count as much as 12 point from people that are between 16 to 29 .

Är det bara jag som tycker detta är helknasigt? Kan omöjligt vara rätt tänkt att barn ska ha två grupper att dela ut poäng i. Både 3-9 år och 9 till 15. De två grupperna ger ut två tolvor, samtidigt som 16-29 en tolva. Hel knasigt.

https://blogg.svt.se/melodifestivalen-expertbloggen/files/2020/03/Slutresultat-Melodifestivalen-2020.pdf

Erik
Erik
3 months ago
Reply to  Kalle

I agree it’s really strange. The only reason i see in this as a preschool teacher is that the children in that age are really engaged in the contest and have a certain taste that is not really the taste of other groups (Dolly Style, Samir & Victor, Hasse Andersson etc.)

Una
Una
3 months ago
Reply to  Kalle

I think it’s great that children have a saying in this. I find it respectful towards the children. Those children will grow and keep watching Mello. It’s a good marketing strategy to be honest. Building a strong consumer base. Better than happy meals.

diana
diana
3 months ago
Reply to  Kalle

Tycker också 3-15 ska vara en och samma grupp. Dock har de olika smaker enligt SVT antar jag?

Una
Una
3 months ago
Reply to  diana

3-15 yo in the same group instead of two groups now 3-9 and 9-15? There is such a big difference between say 3-5 year-old and 10-15. IDK.

gilpgilp
gilpgilp
3 months ago

I don’t think Dotter was robbed. But I do think she would have placed much much better at Eurovision. Anna too. Sweden dropped from a top 5 or top 10 placing to the 15-30 range. It’s quite possible most Swedes don’t really care anyway. Many Swedes actually care more about Melodifestivalen than Eurovision.

Zelenovi
Zelenovi
3 months ago
Reply to  gilpgilp

Maybe. For me, I never put much faith in the “X would have done better at ESC” argument if the act didn’t even manage to win their preselection.

And don’t write off the Mamas – Melfest is the most competitive preselection in Europe. ANY act strong enough to win MF must be considered top 10 material.

gilpgilp
gilpgilp
3 months ago
Reply to  Zelenovi

@Zelenovi how long have you been following Melfest? I started in the early 2000s. I still remember the disappointment when Alcazar was passed over for an awful Stenmarck song about Las Vegas that placed almost last in Eurovision 2005. Alcazar was an almost guaranteed top 5 and could have easily won. I was depressed for days over that result. Many or most Swedes do not think about Eurovision when voting at Melfest.

Anna
Anna
3 months ago
Reply to  gilpgilp

Easily LOL

Sandra
Sandra
3 months ago
Reply to  gilpgilp

The Mamas wasn’t high placed in the betting odds. Remember that Dotter was the big favorite. The Mamas rushed to the top in the very end. Because of their charm and personality. That could happen again at ESC. Ppl loved them last. And now that they are there by them selves as the main act and not just supporting someone else. Who knows what might happen? I personally don’t belive they will win. But they will rpobably get a good place in the end. Even if it doesn’t show in the betting odds. My main question is: Will Iceland and… Read more »

Citizen of Memel
Citizen of Memel
3 months ago
Reply to  Sandra

Sweden is in the SF1 and in the 1st half of the show. If producers would like to end the golden era of Sweden, they could easily put The Mamas to open the show or perform between second and sixth which would guarantee Sweden not qualifying to the GF. Just two my cents.

Sandra
Sandra
3 months ago

We will see what happens 🙂 That’s the exciting thing about ESC. Anything can happen!

Denis
Denis
3 months ago

Can we now please stop this Dotter was robbed nonsense. She was never robbed, because she never had the crown. Time to realise she wasn’t the favourite at all..
But who knows, maybe the Mammas won’t get to perform after al..

Una
Una
3 months ago
Reply to  Denis

What do you mean? Are your referring to the whole contest? Meaning, to all acts from all countries? Because of the corona virus?

grafton
grafton
3 months ago

Im really happy that the Mamas won with a « large » margin. It shows that the Swedes still enjoy the most joyful acts. I’m kinda concerned that Dotter is too alternative / edgy / artsy / dark for their taste. I mean even with the most « mainstream » song of her discography (which Bulletproof certainly is) and a fantastic staging she didnt manage to win. This is sad to me but everybody has their taste.

grafton
grafton
3 months ago
Reply to  grafton

Still countries would kill to get entries such as « cry » or « bulletproof »

Anna
Anna
3 months ago
Reply to  grafton

Would kill LOL

grafton
grafton
3 months ago
Reply to  Anna

Yes, kill. Have you seen how the french HoD was mad crazy talking about literally the lamest song of the selection? I assume she would literally kill some people to get a decent candidate like Dotter (idk if I’m joking or not tbh..)

Apo
Apo
3 months ago
Reply to  grafton

No i can assure you. And im french

grafton
grafton
3 months ago

Kinda shocked that Anna B got 12 points from each 3 older age groups and ZERO (!!) point from the two youngest age groups. She’s the most polarizing artist, even last year

Stardust
Stardust
3 months ago
Reply to  grafton

I guess it might just be name recognition tbh. The older groups probably remember her winning Mello in 2010, the middle ones (like the 20s) were kids when she won so they probably somewhat remember her and the kids don’t remember it at all since they were too young.

Denis
Denis
3 months ago

Now please let us stop this Dotter vs mammas feud. Realise Dotter wasn’t as popular as you thought and move on. Who knows, they might not even perform it in May..

Polegend Godgarina
4 months ago

the televote mamagnets did THAT!

Åsa
Åsa
4 months ago

I think many young people like the mamas because they give some kind of Disney nostalgia haha I personally always think of those Hercules ladies everytime i hear the song haha .

Pedro Paulo
Pedro Paulo
4 months ago

I actually think The Mamas can easily be top/3 or even win Eurovision!!
But, my love was Anna Bergendahl’s kingdom come….

Stephanie
Stephanie
4 months ago
Reply to  Pedro Paulo

Dream on!!!

LinusESCfan
LinusESCfan
3 months ago
Reply to  Stephanie

a real fan dont judge out acts before the live show. here are some songs that are AWESOME in studio, but live? We have to see because no one have heard them live yet. The Mamas we know can sing live.

Pedro Paulo
Pedro Paulo
3 months ago
Reply to  LinusESCfan

that’s really the point, I doubt that some of these songs live willl work as good, But The Mamas are a very strong live act , they grab your atention and can really sing!

Persona
Persona
3 months ago
Reply to  Pedro Paulo

Kingdom Come was also my love 🙂 Ahhhh….still love it 🙂
Forever I let the light in

Alex
Alex
4 months ago

I’d really like to see how televoting would be if it opened after all performances + only sms/calls with no app + closed before juries. Would be interesting in such competitive Melfest

Christian Perry
Christian Perry
4 months ago

No they didn’t. It was 12,000 not 120,000.

Kris
Kris
4 months ago

It is 120 , 000

Alex
Alex
4 months ago

I really find fascinsting how much beloved is Anna for old people in Sweden. But then she struggles a lot with young people.
Any strong reason for such big difference?

diana
diana
4 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Her song is really old fashioned and not what we young adults in sweden usually listen to. We’d rather listen to Anis than Anna

Alex
Alex
4 months ago
Reply to  diana

Yes but still. Mohombi had a even more dated song and beat her. I agree but It must be something else. Idk. It’s really fascinsting xd

diana
diana
3 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Mohombi didn’t beat her, she had a lot more votes than him in the final. Anna is #1 at iTunes in sweden and only 50+ use iTunes here so that must’ve been a hint

Mr Vanilla Bean
Mr Vanilla Bean
4 months ago
Reply to  diana

I don’t disagree, it is really old-fashioned. But isn’t ‘Move’ old-fashioned, too?

diana
diana
3 months ago

Move is a lot more modern than “Kingdome come” KC sounds like a schlager songs, hence why oldies tend to vote for it

LinusESCfan
LinusESCfan
3 months ago

I dont think Dotter, The mamas or Anna is old fashioned:) in my head they are modern.

LinusESCfan
LinusESCfan
3 months ago
Reply to  diana

and thats why we changed the sistem. The teens kicked out ALL older artist over 30

Andrei
Andrei
4 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Anna looks and sings oldfashioned. For good reason she was nicknamed “Granny Voice”. I don’t know her real age, and I really don’t care but she surely looks like she’s in her late 40’s…

Mr Vanilla Bean
Mr Vanilla Bean
4 months ago
Reply to  Andrei

She isn’t. But if she were: #MILF

Sara
Sara
3 months ago
Reply to  Andrei

She’s actually in her late 20s

LinusESCfan
LinusESCfan
3 months ago
Reply to  Andrei

i bet she looks younger then you. AND HOW RUDE! Russians are rude here

Denis
Denis
3 months ago
Reply to  Alex

It’s sort of Pirelli style over her, the kind of song Sweden sent decades ago. Plus the way she dresses and looks way older than her actual age, like Sanna Nielsen

raw
raw
4 months ago

i think that esc audience will applause strongly for the mamas during their performance, but when it’s time to vote then.. nah.

Fionn
Fionn
4 months ago
Reply to  raw

There won’t be an audience let’s be real

Milla
Milla
4 months ago

Ok. Then I can accept that The Mamas won fairly. But stiil.. Some swedes have no clue about what works in esc. They just.. “oh they sing great and are so charming and happy..” But the song??? People who voted for The Mamas wanted to send the same people like last year and with a song that is not as good as “Too late for love” imo. and it’s a big mistake. Didn’t they witness it was not well recieved among the public in 2019? They don’t care. After this I will never trust statistics about anything.

Milla
Milla
4 months ago
Reply to  Milla

Why the down votes? :DD Was Too late for love well recieved? All I read was how overrated it was. Is Move better? And.. statistics show that Dotter was more successful than The Mamas. And all I have read is that swedes made the wrong choice. So what the problem?

Joshua
Joshua
4 months ago
Reply to  Milla

“Not as good as too late for love”, for real? That song was atrocious, at least the Mamas are likeable and they managed to uplift a song that would have fallen flat if sung by another artists. Also what d’you mean by “some swedes don’t know what works in Eurovision”? D’you actually believe a pitiful song sung by a girl with shining t¡ts would work in Eurovision? Please.

Denis
Denis
3 months ago
Reply to  Joshua

Too Late For Love actually got top 10 in tele votes so it was definitely not atrocious. The Mamas are great but people will absolutely remember them from last year and think it’s a re-hash. Which it basically is,,

Joshua
Joshua
3 months ago
Reply to  Denis

And I understand that. Still, that’s not a reason to say that the Mamas wouldn’t work at Eurovision.

Yes
Yes
4 months ago
Reply to  Milla

Swedes are going to send what they wanna send, not what other esc fans outside Sweden think is a better option. It’s a song they like based on national charts. Examples with other countries are Italy (Andrómeda), Albania (Me Tana), Czech Republic (lol all songs), Norway (Wild), Poland (Lucy — heavily overhyped by esc fans), amongst other countries. At the end, it’s their decision and they are gonna choose the song they liked more.

Fatima
Fatima
4 months ago

Who was it who reported, with a completely different set of figures, that Dotter had won the public vote? Can he/she be held to account?

Ghent
Ghent
4 months ago
Reply to  Fatima

SVT

Milla
Milla
4 months ago
Reply to  Fatima

I wonder about that too.. very false information that made me question the voting system..

Erik
Erik
4 months ago
Reply to  Fatima

I think someone mixed up juries and televotes. Dotter won the juries, but not the televotes

Robyn Gallagher
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Fatima

That was a fake edit of Wikipedia, made by someone who used a VPN to disguise their IP address.

Fatima
Fatima
3 months ago

Was it really? I was just about to withdraw may initial comment. Thanks for the clarification, Robyn. Fake Wikipedia? That’s all we need these days.

SHIJIE YU
SHIJIE YU
4 months ago

The one who was truly robbed was Yohio……

Alex
Alex
4 months ago
Reply to  SHIJIE YU

And Nano

Mr Vanilla Bean
Mr Vanilla Bean
4 months ago
Reply to  Alex

And Nanne

fantisimo
fantisimo
4 months ago
Reply to  SHIJIE YU

Every time the juries have overruled us, the public, its never been worth it. Empty Room in 2008 , Yohio in 2013 and Nano in 2017 were all robbed and we would have done better with them at Eurovision.

Denis
Denis
3 months ago
Reply to  fantisimo

No way Yohio would done better, that was The Ark territory right there. Nano would probably have reached the same or slightly less than Robin Bengtsson..

fantisimo
fantisimo
3 months ago
Reply to  Denis

I dont see any correlation between The Ark and Yohio. I hated The Worrying Kind and never understood the fascination from swedish people. If you look at comments under Yohios performance you will see that there are people from outside of Sweden who wanted him to win too. Ask anyone outside of Sweden and most will rate Heartbreak Hotel higher than The Worrying Kind. I agree with you on Nano even though I think he might even have placed top 3. But its besides the point. The juries were introduced to help us but we dont need their help anymore..… Read more »

Denis
Denis
3 months ago
Reply to  fantisimo

We do need juries because otherwise we would only send songs we like. And we did that,it didn’t work. We need to send songs we can compete with,otherwise we lose interest in ESC. If we will be in top 10 it’s only thanks to juries. In fact Ingrosso only got top 10 thanks to juries.
The thing is nothing speaks Dotter would be a winning candidate. If she couldnt win her selection, why would she win ESC? None of the songs we had would win ESC.

Somebody
Somebody
4 months ago
Reply to  SHIJIE YU

Don’t start me with 2013… At least Sweden paid the cost with reaching only the 14th spot when in reality they could have scored Top 5 with Yohio or Ewald.

LinusESCfan
LinusESCfan
3 months ago
Reply to  SHIJIE YU

Yohio yes, nano….. hmmmm i cant decide that one. Im undecided. Robin came 5th so that was good.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
4 months ago

Unprecedented…FROM THE DEATH SPOT, and a probable Andra Chansen appearance or surprise elimination, they end up getting the most votes of any qualifier.

The Mamas literally stole the show from the very start.

Philip
Philip
4 months ago

I sincerely hope they won’t reach the finale

Mariss
Mariss
4 months ago
Reply to  Philip

i sincerely think you need to learn to be more kind and less petty

Nina
Nina
4 months ago
Reply to  Mariss

I sincerely think you should both stop! And go to your room, now! Don’t slam the door! 😀

Philip
Philip
3 months ago
Reply to  Nina

You should mind your own business and stop playing god.. You are nothing more than me, if anything i am smarter than you..

Philip
Philip
4 months ago
Reply to  Mariss

Sorry if being honest and freely express my opinion hurt your feelings, last time i checked that’s called democracy… being hypocritical or as you suggest – act in pretentious, fake kind way and pretend i like what i honestly don’t – is not my cup of tea.. I am not being rude, you think i am rude, cuz it’s different than what you in your dimension are used to… #OpenUp .. How come me having different opinion than yours, makes me unkind? Is kindness hypocrisy?

Mariss
Mariss
3 months ago
Reply to  Philip

if you care so much about sharing all opinions you would not be crying now about our sincere replies. you would just respond “fine” or “fair”. anyway you didnt share an opinion really you just shared your desire for bad results for another. wishing harm to others is not an opinion its just nasty. i dont think you understand “#OpenUp” from what you say. i think it is about open up your heart and your level of tolerance, not a call to open up to all the nasty small opinions. yes people have a right to be small minded or… Read more »

Philip
Philip
3 months ago
Reply to  Mariss

Not true! You were the one who cried and could have replied with “fine” or “fair” on my original comment. It doesn’t started from you, it started from me. You replied to me, which you didn’t have to. I expressed my opinion, stance, view (none of your concern) and there were you having problems with it. You are just pathetic and want everyone to fit your norms and worldview. Well guess what I WON’T, i am different than you, and forever will be. I hope your hatred and need for control will eat you up! YOU AIN’T GONNA MOLD ME… Read more »

Mr Vanilla Bean
Mr Vanilla Bean
4 months ago

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised by Felix’ bad result. Minus ‘Euphoria’, Sweden never goes for the progressive choice, if there is one. As evidenced by ‘Statements’. I think with the right staging, it could have been a very competitive entry in Rotterdam.

Tibor
Tibor
4 months ago

Without a doubt. Even with this same staging, it was dope.

Azaad
Azaad
4 months ago
Reply to  Tibor

Best male act this year by far, and an important message as well.

Somebody
Somebody
4 months ago

Felix and Ingrosso’s songs had the same vibe for me. Jury magnet, but the shortage of televotes brought the end of the entry. I was literally expressionless when it was announced he received only 14.

gilpgilp
gilpgilp
4 months ago

Are you serious? You really think a song talking about how it is OK for boys to have emotions would have done well? Really? Have you stopped to think about how ridiculous those lyrics are? I’m not a fan of the Mamas but that at least it’s easy to see they are better than boys having emotions.

Somebody
Somebody
3 months ago
Reply to  gilpgilp

Erika Vikman from Finland’s UMK sang about Cicciolina, I don’t know if you could go further than that. Yet, the song was super-catchy and could have won the entire televote should selected. Topic isn’t the most important criteria, as long as you have a message to reach to your audience and be authentic.

Sara
Sara
3 months ago

I think that’s true. We don’t tend to vote for more artsy acts. Usually Sweden’s televote in Eurovision goes to similar acts like we send ourselves. That’s probably why we’ve given a lot of points to Australia whenever they’ve sent sleek pop acts.

ESCFan2009
ESCFan2009
4 months ago

The age category system needs to die as soon as possible. The Mamas got the most votes, so this is okay, of course. But: How come that an act who received more votes (Malou) is eliminated due to categories? One person, one vote, the act with the most votes wins. As simple as fair.

Hector
Hector
4 months ago
Reply to  ESCFan2009

I completely agree. Same goes for William Stridh, who was actually third in number of votes

Alex
Alex
4 months ago
Reply to  ESCFan2009

In most of the cases, calls were so close. That’s how age group was a factor.
I think the biggest issue is people voting for all acts instead of picking your favourite

fantisimo
fantisimo
4 months ago
Reply to  Alex

True, that is probably why they added the age groups. I think they should have put a limit to how many songs you can vote for instead. Like you can only vote for 1 or 2 songs max with the app. That way people wouldnt be able to vote for every song and itd be more fair than the age groups imo. But they should also get rid of the juries as we dont need them anymore. Both Loreen and Måns were televote winners in Melodifestivalen.

Alex
Alex
4 months ago
Reply to  ESCFan2009

Another problem is 2016-2018 system made no gaps in televote. Juries had all power.
Felix would have been 3rd or 4th this year and and he was only 10th with calls

Somebody
Somebody
4 months ago

At least Dotter won the Jury according to SVT’s detailed Melfest PDF. Doesn’t cut it for consolation prize, but still…

Kuhkatz
Kuhkatz
4 months ago

So after all, we shouldn’t talk about The Mamas vs. Dotter as this is a clear case now.

It’s more like, Anis DTF instead of Mohombi, William Stridh AC instead of Frida Öhrn (well he finished 3rd overall in Semi 4 if it’s only about sole votes) and Malou AC Duel Winner over Paul Rey.
I know it’s because of the Voting System, but in some cases, it just doesn’t feel that right (well at least it didn’t harm the winner)

Erik
Erik
4 months ago

Total votes The mamas 1 610 446 Dotter 1 489 636 … Green (3-9 years old) Hanna Ferm 12 Méndez 10 Dotter 8 Victor 7 Anis 6 The mamas 5 … Anna Bergendahl 0 Teal (10-15 y) The mamas 12 Hanna Ferm 10 Dotter 8 … Anna Bergendahl 0 Blue (16-29 y) The mamas 12 Dotter 10 … Anna Bergendahl 5 Purple (30-44 y) Dotter 12 The mamas 10 Anna Bergendahl 8 … Pink (45-59 y) Anna Bergendahl 12 The mamas 10 Dotter 8 .. Orange (60-74 y) Anna Bergendahl 12 Hanna Ferm 10 Dotter 8 The mamas 7 …… Read more »

Giolo
Giolo
3 months ago
Reply to  Erik

Can you please publish a source, I’m curious to know the full split results.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
3 months ago
Reply to  Erik

Which goes to show that, it is not enough to simply win on more cards or (in this case) with more age groups. You can win by simply faring exceptionally well on a majority of the groups.. Those two 11th-place rankings and a 6th-place ranking killed Anna. Too many 3rd-place rankings, along with a 4th, cost Dotter just enough to lose to the Mamas, who had to overcome a 6th-place ranking amongst the youngest viewers to score very well with the rest. If you were to drop both the high and the low, the Mamas would score 55 and Dotter… Read more »

Erik
Erik
3 months ago
Reply to  CookyMonzta

Malou got more votes than Paul Rey. But he won in 5 groups and she won 3. If they were to win 4 each she would have won due to most votes in total. The older people wanted Paul, and most groups did. In the earlier system, without voting groups, she would have won that place.

Lolek
Lolek
4 months ago

I’m a HUGE Dotter fan but I am happy that the Mama’s actually won the plurality of the votes (And not just the most in terms of the age bracket votes). Even if they weren’t my number 1 melfest choice (they were in my personal top 3-4), at least it doesn’t diminish their victory. Certainly my concerns for the system still exist (just look at the Malou v Paul Rey AC dual where she had more overall votes) but at least we can all consol ourselves that Sweden chose the contestant that the largest amount Swedes wanted to represent them.… Read more »

Åsa
Åsa
4 months ago

Next year I actually think the international jury should be consisted of international juries and an extra jury called the “International televote”, meaning that people from outside of Sweden can give out their 1-12 points in the final. That would at least give them some influence i guess..

diana
diana
4 months ago
Reply to  Åsa

Why should people outside of Sweden be able to choose our act? It’s bad enough we have the influence of an international just, with the international televotes, it’d be too much like the actual eurovision

Sara
Sara
3 months ago
Reply to  diana

Agree. Besides it would only be Eurovision fans voting. As we all know, that is a very small group that doesnt really reflect the wider European audience’s taste.

Darren
Darren
4 months ago
Reply to  Åsa

Åsa
So like…..Eurovision?

Kosey
Kosey
4 months ago

So the teeny-boppers won it for The Mamas. Oh dear, Sweden, what have you done?

Kosey
Kosey
4 months ago
Reply to  Kosey

And I feel sorry for Malou, she deserved a spot in the final.

Azaad
Azaad
4 months ago

Have to hand it to The Mamas, that is a convincing televote victory- I’m glad they genuinely won the televote as it justifies their victory. Dotter will have her vengeance at OGAE second chance (if she isn’t chosen by OGAE Sweden then the Dotter stans are entitled to rage)

Mr Vanilla Bean
Mr Vanilla Bean
4 months ago
Reply to  Azaad

Not really, though. It’s not like the artist gains anything from winning an OGAE competition.

Azaad
Azaad
4 months ago

It’s still of symbolic importance and if she wins second chance I feel Dotter would be motivated to return to MelFest.

Tajikistan
Tajikistan
4 months ago
Reply to  Azaad

Based on their decisions lately I think the OGAE competitions have been completely discredited by almost all ESC fans

Tibor
Tibor
4 months ago

You don’t say. So two thirds of the 1000 comments on the Melfest post were actually based on the false assumption that Dotter surely must have received the most votes in total ? How embarrassing. I’d recommend to the “justice for Dotter” warriors to remember that, when they feel that they are getting all worked up next time – if I didn’t know for a fact that this recommendation was completely futile …

Mr Vanilla Bean
Mr Vanilla Bean
4 months ago
Reply to  Tibor

I can see this system backfiring eventually, though. I mean, I certainly did not wanna see Malou in the final, but how is it fair to count votes based on (self-proclaimed?) age? It’s more luck than anything that the public’s favorite won with this system.

Tibor
Tibor
4 months ago

My dear Mr Bean, I cannot believe that you want to switch the narrative from “Justice for Dotter” to “Justice for Malou Prytz” … 😉
My guess is that they installed this system to avoid one demographically overrepresented age group to dominate the outcome. I assume that we would have been spared the Sisters win, if this same system would have been in place in Germany last year. That’s a good enough reason for me to support it.

Mr Vanilla Bean
Mr Vanilla Bean
4 months ago
Reply to  Tibor

Never! 😉 Since I never said that in the first place. I wanted Anna, so my favorite never had a chance anyway. And let me very clear: I never wanna hear Malou anywhere. This isn’t about my musical taste. I am gay for justice. And to me, that means every vote matters equally. (I have actually just grown to really like ‘Bulletproof’ after the competition ended).

Tibor
Tibor
4 months ago

I’d say the exact same thing, if Sweden had just proven to me that I have the musical taste of a middle aged woman … Ha!
Completely unrelated, be a darling and remind me to remove “Kingdom Come” from my favourite national preselection entries list. 😉

Mr Vanilla Bean
Mr Vanilla Bean
4 months ago
Reply to  Tibor

I can’t. Destiny and Arilena are not on my streaming platform yet, so “Kingdom Come” will have to remain on repeat. Assisted living, here I come. 😉 I hope my nurses are like Anna’s dancers, at least.

Tibor
Tibor
4 months ago

😀

Mariss
Mariss
4 months ago
Reply to  Tibor

“justice for malou”!??

Tibor
Tibor
4 months ago
Reply to  Mariss

You have to change your username, too. 😉

diana
diana
4 months ago

This just proves that the mamas won fair and square. Although i was team dotterdam all the way, i couldn’t be happier with the mamas representing us

Ugnius
Ugnius
4 months ago

The fact that Mariette received more votes in her SF than Anna or Dotter is shocking !

Mr Vanilla Bean
Mr Vanilla Bean
4 months ago
Reply to  Ugnius

Mariette did have the weakest competition in her semi final.

Azaad
Azaad
4 months ago
Reply to  Ugnius

Given that Heat 2 produced the 2nd and 3rd placed acts, and was the only heat to see both its Andra chansen candidates advance to the final, as well as Klara getting nearly a million votes despite being eliminated, we can say it was the strongest heat in the competition.

Pedro Paulo
Pedro Paulo
4 months ago

Hey guys, what do you think it’s going to happen? Do you think eurovision can be canceled as coronavirus outbreak is getting worst in The Netherlands? There’s now more than 500 cases …I’m a bit sad I have my tickets already…

Cameron
Cameron
4 months ago
Reply to  Pedro Paulo

Irrelevant comment

Mr Vanilla Bean
Mr Vanilla Bean
4 months ago

Well, that closes the case. Sweden wanted them. I’m gonna ignore that my taste seems to be quite … middle-aged to downright ancient here, considering I wanted Anna or Dotter. But I take those age group statistics with a grain of salt anyway.

Colin
Colin
4 months ago

This just shows how unfair this voting APP is. It’s unheard of that you can win the popular vote and still lose due to strategical technicality. I’m, of course, taking about Dotter and Malou Prytz in earlier stages, as this shows that The Mamas really won in every sense of the word. False results harmed their reputation earlier on. Once again, congrats to The Mamas! Also, the results just prove how bad it was to pin Paul against Malou. Both of them should have been in the finals.

KESC
KESC
4 months ago

Are those who still cry over Dotter satisfied now?
The Mamas won deservingly.

George Geo
George Geo
4 months ago
Reply to  KESC

Yes they are, have fun with your out of the Top 10 result instead of a certain Top 3, maybe even the win. Hope you feel relieved.

Mariss
Mariss
4 months ago
Reply to  KESC

hopefully! the mamas totally deserve to win and shine.
all those negative dotter fans remind me of the 2003 song title from UK’s jemini.