France_ Valentina — “J’imagine” Junior Eurovision

Junior Eurovision 2020 saw 12 countries take to the stage (remotely) in Warsaw, Poland. The Netherlands’ Unity sang outside their frontdoors. Spain’s Soleá brought urban flamenco pop realness. And Kazakhstan’s Karakat Bashanova spread her wings.

Unfortunately, and despite all the immense talent on display, only one act could win. This year’s honour goes to Valentina from France with her song “J’imagine”.

Junior Eurovision 2020 Winner — France’s Valentina with “J’imagine”

Read the lyrics of the Junior Eurovision 2020 winning song.

France was drawn to perform 12th, and producers couldn’t have wished for a better closing act. Valentina stuck firmly to the formula that secured France two top-five finishes since its 2018 return — catchy pop with that unique “je ne sais quoi”.

With an infectious smile that shone through the screen and staging just as bright as her personality, the vivacious singer swept the board with both the jury and online vote.

Junior Eurovision 2020 Results

 

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Junior Eurovision 2020 Jury Results

  1. France — 88
  2. Kazakhstan — 83
  3. Belarus — 73
  4. Georgia — 69
  5. The Netherlands — 68
  6. Spain — 60
  7. Ukraine  — 52
  8. Malta — 51
  9. Poland — 46
  10. Russia — 44
  11. Serbia — 35
  12. Germany — 27

Junior Eurovision 2020: All the top scores (12 points)

France received 12 points from The Netherlands, Belarus and Malta

Belarus received 12 points from Kazakhstan, Serbia and Poland

Kazakhstan received 12 points from Georgia and Russia

Georgia received 12 points from  Spain and Ukraine

The Netherlands received 12 points from Germany

Serbia received 12 points from France

Junior Eurovision 2020 Online Vote Results

According to the hosts, 4.5 million votes were cast.

The points were awarded as follows:

  1. France — 112
  2. Spain — 73
  3. Kasakhstan — 69
  4. The Netherlands — 64
  5. Belarus — 57
  6. Ukraine — 54
  7. Serbia — 50
  8. Malta — 49
  9. Poland — 44
  10. Russia — 44
  11. Georgia — 42
  12. Germany — 39

Junior Eurovision 2020 Voting Method

Keeping with the voting mechanism introduced in 2017, JESC 2020 officials opened the voting a few days before the show began.  On Friday, after all countries had completed their second rehearsals, fans all over the world were invited to cast their votes.  After sitting through a short recap of all the performances, fans were able to vote for 3 entries of their choice.  If they needed more convincing, snippets of each participants stage-show were available.

The first wave of voting lasted up until the live show began, during which fans could vote once per device for their favourite acts.  As soon as all countries had had their performance, the voting was open for a second round for 15 minutes, giving fans another opportunity to voice their opinion on the contest.

All of the results were announced during the show with the jury results revealed first followed by the online votes.

What do you think of the results? Were you surprised by the jury or the televote? Let us know down below.

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Dr J
Dr J
1 year ago

Are you a national broadcaster who wants to win JESC? Now you have a few models to choose from: 2003-2015 – Find a talented kid who has written a song (from 2013, in Malta, the kid was more and more a “co-writer”) 2016-2017 – Put a talented kid with your professionally-written song 2018-2019 – Get the most viewers on JESC from your country and online voting will do the rest – if your talented kid is old enough that the teen voters in your country identify with her (but cf 2020 – if JESC requires voters to vote for 3… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Dr J
beccaboo1212
1 year ago

Well deserved!

TheDrMistery
TheDrMistery
1 year ago

It was still done very well.

A.J.Foxxx
A.J.Foxxx
1 year ago

People who want Kazhakstan in the main contest: No way, there would be geopolitical voting!
Junior-Eurovision: Kazakhstan received 12 points from Georgia and Russia

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  A.J.Foxxx

As if most other countries don’t do that as well… I can tell you that Serbia or Slovenia could as well bring a tone deaf singer screeching the same repetitive tune off key for three minutes and my country would STILL appoint them with at least 8 points in televote. I’ll never stop being annoyed at that, but now I’m at point where I’m not even a tiny bit surprised.

A.J.Foxxx
A.J.Foxxx
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

Another one bathing in this stupid whataboutism. The fact that other things happen doesn’t make my argument any weaker.

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  A.J.Foxxx

I am just pointing out that by using this same argument, we could eliminate almost everyone (which is, ofc, just not the way to go). Most countries have a neighbor or two in their top 5. I am sure there are very little examples of otherwise (but if so, a list would be cool). Some countries are even blatant enough to always exchange 12 points. Not inviting Kazakhstan for that same reason just doesn’t seem fair. Neither does giving 8, 10 and 12 points politically, but again, almost everyone does it at times (or some even most of the time).

Last edited 1 year ago by Colin
A.J.Foxxx
A.J.Foxxx
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

as I said – dumb whataboutism.
as for Kazakstan – we already have a bunch of dictatorships in the contest who use it as a political forum: Russia, Azerbaijan, Belarus. We don’t need another one who will complain about acts like Conchita in the future. Luckily some of the regimes who can’t support the values of the contest – diversity and tolerance – have withdrawn already and personally I don’t want them back until their government changes. Period

Ashton
Ashton
1 year ago
Reply to  A.J.Foxxx

You can’t just dismiss a good argument by saying that it’s whataboutism.

A.J.Foxxx
A.J.Foxxx
1 year ago
Reply to  Ashton

Google „whataboutism“ before you call that a „good argument“

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  A.J.Foxxx

So, what you’re saying is that you don’t mind other countries exchanging 12, 10 or 8 points on regular basis, but you hold the *exact same argument* against the inclusion of Kazakhstan. If my argument is ”whataboutism”, yours is sheer hypocrisy. Imagine a situation if you are in a classroom and all the kids are throwing paper planes. You ignore it all, until the kid you don’t find likable does it and then you ground him and only him. That would be discrimination. Based on your additional reasoning below that, I’d say your primary reason for omitting Kazakhstan has more… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Colin
A.J.Foxxx
A.J.Foxxx
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

attacking me doesn‘t make your position stronger. I pointed out that the assumption Kazakstan would not join the eastern block is kust naive nothing more. that has nothing to do with what other countries do or not.
If something is already wrong you don‘t change it by adding more of it. your argument is as if I say: coughing in your face is not a good thing and you say: but my neighbour coughed MANY times in other peoples face, so we should allow this for everyone. get it now?

A.J.Foxxx
A.J.Foxxx
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

And secondly: the EBU organizes the party. it‘s her right to decide whom to invite. there‘s no such a thing as a right to participate. if ypu‘re not invited to a birthdayparty and the whole of your class is, that‘s sad, but you can‘t claim a right to be invited. you bettet check why you‘re not welcome.
And noe I‘m done. I don‘t continue a discussion with people who call
me hypocrite.

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  A.J.Foxxx

I did not call *you* a hypocrite. That would assume a whole character basis which don’t know nor can know. I called your *hypothesis hypocritical* the same way you called mine ”dumb”. Yes, you can deny someone participation on any basis in theory. Still giving different participants different treatments is discriminatory. Bottom line is – Voting for your neighbors may be biased and lame, but it’s NOT AGAINST THE RULES. You can be against it, but you cannot use it as an arbitrary argument against certain participants you don’t like. Sure, nobody is naive enough to believe that Kazakhstan won’t… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Colin
Yoann
Yoann
1 year ago

Hello everybody

Shame on haters who harshly critizice Valentina – a little girl who diserved the victory.

I am particularly disappointed by spanish comments since yesterday.

France has to be respected like other countries.

Skiwalko
Skiwalko
1 year ago

By the way, the total number of points given in the online voting is 697, one more than in the jury voting (696 p.). Weird, innit?

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Skiwalko

Juries have 58 more points than televoters in the adult contest…

Skiwalko
Skiwalko
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

How so?
Besides, it’s the first time I noticed such disproportion at JESC, and I’m just wondering what caused it. The same thing happened in 2017, and it doesn’t make much sense to me. It should be 50/50, right?

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Skiwalko

Not every country can have a televote, so 58 points appear from nowhere to supposedly make it 50/50…at least all the junior points are genuinely human.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Skiwalko

The points from the online vote is based on percentages so it must be for statistical purposes.

Charles
Charles
1 year ago

Spain is enraged with all the “alleged playback” usage … had it won, nobody in RTVE would even care about it … they just wanted to win! Cazaquistan is desperate for a win considering we have been handing them these runner up positions to feed their ego them the same way both Russia, Ukraine or even Azerbaijan so desperately wanted 10 years ago in the adult Eurovision. France was and is one of the few countries who takes part of it with no geopolitical strategies in mind … just the music plain and simple. As it should always be in… Read more »

xelx
xelx
1 year ago
Reply to  Charles

What makes you think RTVE cares much about any of this? It’s not like most Spaniards were majorly aware of the contest taking place, going by the poor viewing figures.

Alex
Alex
1 year ago

Jesc viewing figures:
– France: 1.2M
– Spain: 1.1M
– Germany: 0.3M
– Netherlands: 0.3M
– Poland: 6M

Alex
Alex
1 year ago
Reply to  Alex

I’m shocked Poland did that bad with online voting based on numbers. difference is huge.

Dr J
Dr J
1 year ago
Reply to  Alex

Those swooning Polish teen girls cast their votes for Petar, who reached out to them in a video in Polish, and apparently also for Karakat. Maybe they would have felt like babies voting for a 10 year old Ala. They are probably the majority of the 6M and remember, Roxie was 14 and Viki 12. That was their base, who could identify with them.

Florence PETIT
Florence PETIT
1 year ago

French delegation confirmed today in interview that the performance was LIVE and strictly recorded as per EBU’s tight guidlines, which were very clear and detailed (limited number of trials before final recording etc). They also mentionned that the recording was controlled and audited in Poland before the broadcasting to ensure all guidelines were respected. I think this closes the debate.

Florence PETIT
Florence PETIT
1 year ago
Reply to  Florence PETIT

Also what would be the point for French delegation to cheat? Valentina’s live vocals have always been extremely close to the recording version, we have heard her live many times…Absolutely no point to take a risk in cheating when you have such a fantastic singer. It doesnt make any sense.

CyxCy
CyxCy
1 year ago
Reply to  Florence PETIT

I also think some people can’t imagine Valentina’s real level. She’s already a professional. With the group “Kid’s United: nouvelle génération”, they went on tours, big venues, events…. And she prepared for eight months for the Eurovision junior. She may be short in size, but she already has everything a great singer is. And we must not forget the dancers and the whole delegation who worked hard to get there.

Agumon
Agumon
1 year ago
Reply to  Florence PETIT

Yes the performance was live, and they were playing the studio version over the singer LIVE, and you could not even hear her voice LIVE, and that was in accordance to the rules (sadly). This closes nothing since you’re just repeating what we already knew.

Florence Petit
Florence Petit
1 year ago
Reply to  Agumon

What you are talking about is called playback….playback was denied by delegation and by EBU. End of the matter.

Kirby
Kirby
1 year ago

It was a nice show to watch. Just two flaws: (1) One of the presenters shouldn’t have shouted all along. Do you have to shout whenever you’re addressing to children? Really? (2) I felt sad for the Georgian singer sitting terribly alone in her own “green room”.

GPA
GPA
1 year ago
Reply to  Kirby

It’s Ida Nowakowska, In Poland we don’t like her too, but she seems to have good relationship with ruling party, so she appears almost everywhere on national TV.

Last edited 1 year ago by GPA
esc2021rotterdam
esc2021rotterdam
1 year ago
Reply to  Kirby

The Georgian broadcaster said she was isolated during the grand final (and the Russian girl was also alone in the green room).

Linus
Linus
1 year ago

is it just me or do someone else think Belarus performance is only playback? sounds weird

Giolo
Giolo
1 year ago
Reply to  Linus

Yes, it was and not only her… also Russia and France 🙁

Linus
Linus
1 year ago
Reply to  Giolo

i hope EBU answers that

Nicolas
Nicolas
1 year ago
Reply to  Giolo

A preview of what Eurovision 2021 will sound. Welcome to the future…..

sognomio
sognomio
1 year ago

it was miserly the voting of the french professional jury: the worst votes for the 4 strongest rivals. Specially petty and paltry it was o points to Spain. Was it the worst song of the night?The knew Spain was its stronger advesary. About playback? better not to talk about it. A shame

Briekimchi
Briekimchi
1 year ago
Reply to  sognomio

Possible but it’s just as possible that France, being the country that sent one of the most kid-friendly songs, wasn’t that keen on Spain, that sent one of the most mature-sounding songs.

CyxCy
CyxCy
1 year ago
Reply to  sognomio

Nobody has the obligation to like the song of this or that country, nor to give it points. It might be beyond you but personally I didn’t like the song from Spain at all, my favorite was “Vidkryvai” from Ukraine. Good kisses from a French.

OohHoney
OohHoney
1 year ago

Happy for France but It was a hands down 100% win for Kazakhstan for me this year.

Eddie
Eddie
1 year ago

Bunch of these comments are from people that lack real Eurovision this year and this is the next best thing they can cry about.
Grow up about the playback, it’s Eurovision for kids. But I am glad ya’ll find something to cry about

Nate
Nate
1 year ago

First the French juries voting strategically (their points make absolutely no sense) and then adding the pre-recording voice to the video is sad. Poor Valentina is not to blame, but I think the EBU should at least take a look at it

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Nate

Three adult jurors and two kid jurors voting strategically? Do you have evidence of that?

jesc123
jesc123
1 year ago

Amazing winner 🙂 But it has to be said, if this was a trial run for esc 2021 with broadcasters potentially recording their own performance what’s going to stop *some* of the delegations at the main contest having a completely lipsynced entry while the others could be marked down for their live vocals?

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  jesc123

A split audio mix in the tape they’ll be sending to the EBU. The mix will include separate layers for lead vocals, backup vocals, backing track and mixed audio.

Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago

France was voting strategically – giving its points to countries which weren’t rivals for a top placement.

Loin dici
1 year ago

I guess one thing needed to be said clearly:

Don’t blame the kids for what their organizers did.

Agumon
Agumon
1 year ago

I did not watch the show but I just watched the performance on YouTube. Congratulations France for winning the Eurovision Lip Sync Contest 2020! Seriously that’s ridiculous, she’s not even pretending to sing live haha… Next year don’t even bother working on a staging, just broadcast the video clip straight away and you’ll save even more money.

Let’s hope ESC never does that for the adult contest, this is really sad to watch.

Teddie
Teddie
1 year ago
Reply to  Agumon

Huh, so I’m not the only one who thought that was a lip sync. Weird, how in the hell would they allow it?

Agumon
Agumon
1 year ago
Reply to  Teddie

I have no idea but it’s shameful. Also I want to make it very clear that the singer is not at fault here, she’s just a kid and she was not in charge. This was a decision consciously made by the adults in charge, and I sure hope they get called out for it.

GIOLO
GIOLO
1 year ago
Reply to  Agumon

I totally agree, but still Kazakhstan didn’t deserve to not win because of a playback performance… so sad

Alex
Alex
1 year ago
Reply to  Agumon

It playback and live, which all of the countries did. It’s 100% acceptable as per JESC rules, which differ from ESC.

Alex
Alex
1 year ago
Reply to  Alex

Only back vocals could be playback. Some countries used the studio version in the Jury show, which is forbidden in both ESC and JESC.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Agumon

How can you prove she was lipsyncing?

Giolo
Giolo
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Valentina NEVER lypsinced. She recorded her performance with her own voice. Probably the same happened with Sofia. However French broadcaster decided to put studio versions over Valentina’s live singing. It is such a shame because 1) Valentina is a talented girl and probably would have won anyway 2) It is not allowed by rules, but EBU chose to close an eye 3) It is not fair towards other participants who took the contest seriously and girls and boys who took practise for month to singthe way they did (even Solea,who could have won EASILY with a plyaback version) I want… Read more »

Agumon
Agumon
1 year ago
Reply to  James

I have ears, that’s how. Read the feedback from the contest and do not hide your head in the sand, what happened is pretty clear to everyone.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Agumon

I have ears, a TV that can transmit 5.1 surround soud, and a pair of good quality speakers and I can assure you she sounded pretty well live.

TheDrMistery
TheDrMistery
1 year ago

ESC 2016: Polish diaspora pushed their singer too high and will always do that from now on. ESC 2017: So last year it wasn’t just Polish diaspora voting for Poland. JESC 2019: Polish voters pushed their singer too high and will always do that from now on. JESC 2020: So last year it weren’t just Polish people voting for Poland. How the same stories take place again and again. Great show from TVP even if I find Ida extremely annoying. Her stealing the spotlight from Alicja was comical. Kudos to Roksana and Viki being so amazing with Duncan. French package… Read more »

GIOLO
GIOLO
1 year ago
Reply to  TheDrMistery

Yes, but still Ala was extremely underrated, 9th place was really undeserved.

France had DEFINITELY the best package for JESC, but we didn’t hear Valentina’s live singing, so it is not a fair win.
Karakat should have won for me

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  GIOLO

She was singing live.

Teddie
Teddie
1 year ago
Reply to  James

You really think so? I mean, I’m not sure but the voice compression was impeccable throughout the song, no dips in volume like the ones we heard in german, serbian or spanish performances, for example. Maybe the final mix was just too much in favor of the studio version. I would like to know the full picture.

Giolo
Giolo
1 year ago
Reply to  Teddie

Valentina herself said to a fan on instagram that she doesn’t know why they used the studio version… she recorded her performance singing live…

French delegation made fun of Valentina, the other participants and all of us.

TheDrMistery
TheDrMistery
1 year ago
Reply to  GIOLO

I meant that she was fine vocally.

Jo.
Jo.
1 year ago

it’s the eiffel tower, they always win when they use that…

Joe
Joe
1 year ago
Reply to  Jo.

Did Marie Myriam have one? And how come that didn’t work for Alma?

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jo.

I believe that The Eiffel Tower has been used at least 5 or 6 times by France in the last decade. Some of those times it felt placed there by default, without much creativity, but here it felt really natural and playful. It was really well used and it played a big part in this joyful backdrop.
They won because the song was a pure bomb of joy, but The Eiffel Tower was really cute too.

Last edited 1 year ago by Colin
Loin dici
1 year ago
Reply to  Jo.

Alma begs to differ chile

Olivia
Olivia
1 year ago

Is it true that France lip synced her performance? Please, no hate, Im just curious to know whether this is true or not. Thanks

Linus
Linus
1 year ago
Reply to  Olivia

i dont think so. you dont train with a vocal coach for months and then lip-sync:)

GIOLO
GIOLO
1 year ago
Reply to  Linus

Valentina recoeded her performance singing live, BUT some people decided go put the studio version over hee singing without her consense. SO DISGUSTING

Linus
Linus
1 year ago
Reply to  GIOLO

i see

Michu
Michu
1 year ago
Reply to  Linus

Comments like yours make me sad. The number of thumbs up under it is even worse. You guys are enabling unfair competition. You won’t take my word seriously I guess, so I’m waiting for some vocal coach to teach you about this fact.

Nicolas
Nicolas
1 year ago
Reply to  Olivia

Of course if you used to what real live vocals are unless you are born with an autotune inside lol.

ESC Commentator
ESC Commentator
1 year ago

Felicitations France! It was a great, joyful and colourful performance:) Poland was robbed, Ala had the best voice in this year’s contest and very catchy song. It’s very said that the juries were boycotting that performance only because Poland had won twice. The online results proved that the voting is not dominated by Polish people. It was a great show!

Florence PETIT
Florence PETIT
1 year ago

there was nothing like ” boycott”, there were a lot of good songs and many were better than Poland’s thats all. Jury vote was consistant with public vote, so nothing to be worried about.

ESC Commentator
ESC Commentator
1 year ago
Reply to  Florence PETIT

I am sorry Florence PETIT but you as a French, I suppose, should know what I am talking about:) 12 points from juries to Serbia? 0 points to Spain? Seriously? I have nothing against Valentina’s victory, even though some say she didn’t sing live. She had a good song and she deserved to win. But the strategy of the French delegation and juries to win was quite desperated. Anyway, I am glad that France will host the contest next year:)

Denis
Denis
1 year ago

I usually never follow JESC but in lack of a regular one it was nice having something..
Knew she would win since I heard the song, it is a bop! Catchy, positive and so energetic. Maybe she could use some of that magic to help France in the adult version, they don’t even crack top 10 there..

Last edited 1 year ago by Denis
utah
utah
1 year ago

it was cool what Poland did with this Duncan hologram and Viki & Rixie singing altogether. Poland should finally prepare some brilliant song and win the adult contest. They will make a really quality Eurovision final!

Badwoolfgirl
Badwoolfgirl
1 year ago
Reply to  utah

I think it would be cool if Poland won the adult contest one day, but I think they might want to take a break after two consecutive Junior Eurovision hostings and hold off on winning ambitions until a few years pass.

TheDrMistery
TheDrMistery
1 year ago
Reply to  Badwoolfgirl

If Polish entrant would win in 2021, I assure you Poland would be ready to host in 2022.

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
1 year ago

Well that was a good laugh. Congratulations to all of the kids; all of them are winners, remember.
Seriously I was pleasantly surprised by the vocals from Belarus, Georgia and Russia. As for France, lalala j’imagine Paris 2021.
Oh, by the way, please don’t “move the world”. For gravitational reasons, this would be a bad idea, ahaha

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  Purple Mask

As performers, they are absolutely all winners. 15 amazing careers in the making, if they choose to continue in this path.
Do you have a song (or songs) which you found to be the best on the merit of melody, lyrics and instrumentation? For me, the choice was difficult, because I found all of these songs nice. I did vote, but basically all of them were a legit option to vote for.

Sabrina
Sabrina
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

I have a feeling Mask has a soft spot for the Serbian entry.

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

Georgia’s song and performance were my favourite, personally.
Russia had the technically perfect arrangement, and Belarus & Spain added some interesting modern vibes. Poland’s song had a really good melody that clashed with the underlying harmony. But France won in the end; to be fair, “J’imagine” has a very easy-to-remember Chorus that gets stuck in your head for days.

Sabrina predicted I would like Serbia – I mean, I want to like a piano song of course, but this one just lacked interest for me. I better stop there, in case the kids start crying.

Sabrina
Sabrina
1 year ago
Reply to  Purple Mask

It wasn’t even just for it being a piano song, I also sensed the same “conservatory boy” vibe from the singer. After D Mol, I’ll always associate you to this kind of act! It was a song I wasn’t paying much attention to before the contest, but he made it work for me, he’s charming. The same applies to the German entry, Susan was very relatable. But both shared a problem, the songs don’t go much further than what we see in the first minute. And it’s true, I’m humming “J’Imagine” chorus until now. Also “Best Friends”.Sadly I didn’t memorize… Read more »

Linus
Linus
1 year ago

was away so could not watch it live, i guess Polish fans can vote fair, thats great. i was 200% sure Poland would win. Playback is a problem. I hope all countries can come to Netherlands in 2021. Even kids have problem to play 100% fair so i am worried about that.

Michu
Michu
1 year ago
Reply to  Linus

I’m from Poland and thank you, I feel a relief that we voted fair 🙂 As for the playback, I really hope it gets explained, because it wasn’t a fair competition. I thought EBU would control the recording process, but they didn’t even do anything about 3 countries sending a freakin’ studio version. I watched France’s performance again and I’m also pretty sure there are at least two cuts. Notice how other kids disappear very quickly when there are shots showing Valentina’s face in a close-up. That’s all super weird.

Linus
Linus
1 year ago
Reply to  Michu

i have been hard on polish fans before but Poland deserved those wins:). it just took som years for me to accept. yeah i hope they solve it.

FanESC
FanESC
1 year ago
Reply to  Linus

Please it’s not Valentina’s fault. Herself said when the rehearsal video was released that she didn’t know why it wasn’t her live voice and they put the studio version over. Spanish fans are blaming her on twitter, it’s disgusting. Even Solea said she deserved her victory, she is more mature than 10 years older eurofans, shameful.

Linus
Linus
1 year ago
Reply to  FanESC

i know. I would never hate on a kid. sad to hear. I get disappointed but i never write on their page. thats to much

poe-tay-toe-chips
poe-tay-toe-chips
1 year ago
Reply to  FanESC

It’s almost insulting to the child. It’s like the adults didn’t trust her to be good enough when Valentina could’ve still probably secured the win anyway without them doing that

Kate
Kate
1 year ago

ok , Oleksandr said he gonna participate in Vidbir2022 when he turns 16, oh gosh!

Pascal
Pascal
1 year ago
Reply to  Kate

Omg where did he say that??? <3 *-*

Kate
Kate
1 year ago
Reply to  Pascal

in one of his reply on Insta, he said he wants to go to Vidbir2022 and then to ESC

Pascal
Pascal
1 year ago

No offense, but France, Russia and Belarus were 100% playback. I just checked it. I do not have anything against the performers. I just think it‘s not good to show children that you can have success by cheating.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Pascal

They sounded good live. 🙂

Pascal
Pascal
1 year ago
Reply to  James

They did not sing live

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Pascal

They did sing live. Only backup vocals were prerecorded.

People like you are why JESC fandom gets a bad rep because you diss on children and their performances.

Last edited 1 year ago by James
Pascal
Pascal
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Here’s the proof. They did not sing live. At least we didnt get to hear them sing live because the audio was changed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM52J-iGbnI

John the Go
1 year ago
Reply to  Pascal

Maybe you can share your professional music credentials with us, Pascal, so we can understand your expert knowledge.

Last edited 1 year ago by John the Go
Pascal
Pascal
1 year ago
Reply to  John the Go

I layered both the studio and the „live“ version (played them at the same time) and they sound exactly the same. There‘s not even a little difference.

Pascal
Pascal
1 year ago
Reply to  John the Go

Here’s the link to the proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM52J-iGbnI

Dr J
Dr J
1 year ago
Reply to  Pascal

You’d better put your proof on another platform and give us a new link. EBU has already blocked your YouTube video on copyright grounds, surprise, surprise . . .

Actually, if they are right, they would do better to let you post your proof and tear it apart with answers. This kind of powerplay will just make them look incredible and feed conspiracy theories which will dog Valentina and the EBU.

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago

I hope next year’s contest is presented entirely in French, still one of the two official EBU languages. To expect them to do it in English would be an insult.

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

A bilingual contest would be very cool. Reminder of how Yugoslavia did it back in 1990. With one host speaking French and the other one speaking English.

Last edited 1 year ago by Colin
Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

I’d settle for that, but seeing as this year’s contest was entirely in English, I would argue that entirely in French is just as reasonable.

Bella
Bella
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

How would that be reasonable, lol? Like it or not but English is considered a universal common language, so it is reasonable to expect you’ll reach the highest number of viewers by speaking English. That is NOT the case for French, it would be totally unreasonable to host a TV show in a language that most people don’t speak.

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

It’s for children. Do you think the eleven-year-olds of France or Spain or Kazakhstan really care that it’s in English? They mostly rely on commentators to understand what’s going on. Malta were the only English-speaking country to take part this year, population 500 thousand. Population of France, nearly 70 million.

Bella
Bella
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

Country population is irrelevant, the only number that matters is the number of speakers (native and as a foreign language). English has 1.3 billion speakers in the world, French only has 270M (including me ;)). Also if no one cares about the language and only relies on commentators, why are you even posting about this? By your own argument, it should be irrelevant. You know what? Your comment illustrates perfectly the kind of nonsense that would happen if France won the real ESC and hosted (thankfully it doesn’t look like it will happen anytime soon). France used to have influence… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

Yes, irrelevant. That’s why the broadcaster should be free to use it’s own language if so desired. You’re taking this too hard…

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

Actually, French is also a universal common language. Likewise with Spanish.

FanESC
FanESC
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

They can make it in both languages like the regular contest.

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  FanESC

Scoreboard in French, though! 🙂

Bella
Bella
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

Dude, the goal is to host a TV show for an entire continent. Not to take some petty revenge because your local language doesn’t have any global resonance anymore. Je précise que je parle français au fait, donc j’aurais aucun problème à comprendre une émission 100% en français. Mais ce serait vraiment ridicule pour tout le monde…

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

Global resonance? How sad that the UK just threw theirs away with Brexit. Maybe that explains why you’re so cranky. Okay, okay…we’ll have it your way.

Bella
Bella
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

I’m not British so I’m not sure why you make this assumption. And you’re absolutely right, the UK also has zero influence on the world nowadays. English is dominant mostly thanks to American influence.

Also I’m really not cranky, lol. Your arguments are just flawed, poorly supported and based on nothing but chauvinistic emotions. So it’s just easy to deconstruct them. 😉

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

I’m not French, so I don’t know why you made that assumption – then again, you’ve been making a lot of assumptions. I hate nationalism. I also hate suppression.

Bonnuit.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

It actually has a global resonance. Why do you feel attacked?

Bella
Bella
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Crazy how men with fragile masculinity can’t discuss with a woman without immediately stating she’s “cranky”, emotional, “feels attacked”, etc. These are all just tone policing tactics to avoid addressing the comment.

I’m responding to a person who wants France to host a contest 100% in French, which doesn’t make any sense at all and me and others have explained why with fact-based arguments. My emotions are not part of this discussion.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

It shouldn’t be much of a problem making a wholy French production if they want to.

And commentators will fill in the gaps for their viewers

Pablo
Pablo
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Funny how your first move if France were to host the contest would be to exclude millions of viewers by imposing your minority/local language (because regardless of what you’re saying, French is not an international language). The contest already is bilingual: every single year you have Swedish/Ukrainian/Portuguese/Austrian/Israeli/Danish hosts making the effort of opening the show, explaining the voting instructions and giving the points in English AND in French, which is already a huge concession to France considering how minor French is (even the other Romance-language countries give their points in English). But seems like that’s not even enough: you need… Read more »

Denis
Denis
1 year ago
Reply to  James

That only works if the commentators speak French. You want to force them to learn?
Lets also not forget that majority of viewers watch it on Youtube because their countries dont compete. There are no commentators on YouTube. So how are people supposed to keep up?

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Denis

If broadcasters have presenters who can, which we saw with the TVP host who moderated the after-show press conference.

Are we still assuming that France TV would their name forward for hosting next year? Because that was the point of the discussion.

🙂

Denis
Denis
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Again, that only works if someone can moderate a live stream on YouTube where they subtitle or translate the whole thing. Because an all French audition would not lure people to watch since most don’t speak French..

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Denis

You think a broadcasting union…that’s a union of broadcasters…television broadcasters…should prioritize YouTube?

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Denis

As someone who is not a francophone, I wouldn’t mind. If K-Pop fans don’t mind not understanding a sliver if Korean whenever they watch Korean musical variety shows like Music Bank, then it’s possible for a mostly French production too. 🙂

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Denis

The majority of viewers absolutely do not watch it on YouTube. Why don’t YouTube pay for it if that’s true?

Denis
Denis
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

EBU prioritize YouTube like they do with anything else, why else bother having a channel there. But they arent goingto start use subtitles..
A majority watches it online because they have an interest in it but their broadcaster didnt broadcast it, like mine.

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Denis

Yesterday’s contest has 335 thousand views right now, is that the majority? No.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

And you sounded so adamant at the thought that it can be possible to have a show be hosted in another globally common language other than English.

Last edited 1 year ago by James
Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

Suggestions of sexism here are not accurate and entirely a product of your imagination. I actually thought you were a man. All the way through, right until this post…which I suppose could be sexist in itself, except that it was not an assumption – I was confusing you with somebody else, the same reason I thought you were British. Even when you called me a chauvinist, I still thought you were a man – meaning the other definition of the word, nationalism. That’s how I answered.

Clem
Clem
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

Hi ! As far as I remember, pre-2000 ESC each year had the show presented in both English and French, and the scoreboard in the local language. Scoreboard habits were later dropped.
And yes, even in France : for instance during the last show we organised (back in 1978,urgh,I wasn’t even born) the two presenters split languages with Léon Zitrone speaking in English and Denise Fabre speaking in French. We’d do it again I expect.

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Clem

I hope so.

Denis
Denis
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

How is that reasonable? You still produce a show going out to a whole continent where English is the common language and more people understand it than they do French. Even in France people speak English. It will be a bi-lingually presented show I think. You can’t just make it without any English..

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Denis

Toto and Gigliola did…

Denis
Denis
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

And seeing how poorly that edition was received its not an example.Even Paris 1978 edition had English in it. EBU is not going to allow a fully French edition, certainly not to use it as some petty revenge for it not being heard outside France.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Denis

Malmo 1991 says hello.

Denis
Denis
1 year ago
Reply to  James

You mention these as if they actually are good examples

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Denis

I mentioned just Malmö.

Denis
Denis
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Which again isn’t a good example. Not as chaotic as Rome but still not a good edition. These two editions and the complaints they got is the reason EBU abandoned the idea of a non-English ESC

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Denis

They can always try again.

Denis
Denis
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Just give it up! There won’t be an only French edition in ESC, despite your petty aversion to only English. When French is the most commonly used language on the continent then we can talk. Not now!

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Denis

Actually, one of the most commonly spoken in the continent, alongside English and Russian. It has official status in at least 5 countries in Europe with Europeans taking it up either as a second or other language, with English having a slight quantitative advantage as a second and other language to learners and non-native speakers outside the anglophone countries, but more or less they’re on near equal ground. 🙂

Sal
Sal
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

English is the official language of 3 European countries and the most studied language in the majority of Europe; I don’t think the EBU would allow a show fully in French.

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Sal

The whole reason Ireland and Wales even take part is to get away from the English language…

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Sal

Jeux sans frontieres.

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

How about some Corsican? 😛

Vivi
Vivi
1 year ago

France voted in a strategic way… That’s really sad…

lol
lol
1 year ago
Reply to  Vivi

it’s suspicious but it wouldn’t change the result

Olivia
Olivia
1 year ago
Reply to  lol

But still, it looks really bad. they would have won anyway, no need to play it dirty.

FanESC
FanESC
1 year ago
Reply to  Vivi

I agree, so sorry France did that, we didn’t need to do this to win. Poland did the same in 2018 and they didn’t gave us a point why France gave them 12pts. Ironically, the final gap in the end between France and Poland was 12pts.

TheDrMistery
TheDrMistery
1 year ago
Reply to  FanESC

Yeah but Poland had higher televoting score so she still would win in case of a tie with France.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Vivi

I voted for France and I’m not from that country.

Vivi
Vivi
1 year ago
Reply to  Vivi

I understand that the public can vote in a strategic way, but not the jury? They are supposed to be experts lol and give the points to the countries that deserves them

Una
Una
1 year ago
Reply to  Vivi

The juries *always* vote in a strategic way although their reasons for doing so may vary.

My Tears Are Getting Sober
My Tears Are Getting Sober
1 year ago

i cant believe it. i was too busy to listen to any of it this year and now im so sad

First row at ESC and JESC
First row at ESC and JESC
1 year ago

you missed a really good show and 12 great songs ….and good interval acts.

Frisian esc
Frisian esc
1 year ago

I mean you can always watch back

klj
klj
1 year ago

Poland, thanks for 2 amazing shows. you raised the bar very high!

dygh
dygh
1 year ago

Congrats France! Flawless performance for a young singer like Valentina. I hope we see her energy on the Big stage in a few years 🙂

First row at ESC and JESC
First row at ESC and JESC
1 year ago
Reply to  dygh

that would be amazing ?

Mhan
Mhan
1 year ago
Reply to  dygh

Flawless because she lipsyncd the song haha

poe-tay-toe-chips
poe-tay-toe-chips
1 year ago
Reply to  Mhan

She’s a little girl….whatever choices were made probably were not her own

1998
1998
1 year ago

I think they were cast backwards. I mean the votes are really weird (and yes I am from Serbia).

John the Go
1 year ago

I’m sad Germany came last on their debut – I think Susan did a great job with her performance and I don’t think she deserved last place with both the jury and the online vote.

TheDrMistery
TheDrMistery
1 year ago
Reply to  John the Go

For me she was an ok performer but that song wouldn’t take her anywhere.

1998
1998
1 year ago

French votes are weird. I have a feeling that they were cast backwards.

Alex
Alex
1 year ago
Reply to  1998

Belarus 2019 again.

Olivia
Olivia
1 year ago
Reply to  1998

They voted low their biggest compeition. DIRTY France. Classless.

Frans
Frans
1 year ago

Congrats Valentina! Question here: does this mean it is very likely (in case that France hosts JESC 2021) the show would be in French?

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Frans

If France TV wants to bid for hosting rights then why not?

Colin
Colin
1 year ago

Just to make a comparison on how the Wiwi poll compared to actual online voting. I am comparing *only* online vote, as juries are another thing entirely and we didn’t even try to replicate that. So, the real votes (with comparing with how the songs finished on Wiwi poll): France (2nd, – 1) Spain (1st, + 1) Kazakhstan (4th, – 1) The Netherlands (5th, – 1) Belarus (3rd, + 2) Ukraine (9th, – 3) Serbia (10th, – 3) Malta (11th, – 3) Poland (7th, + 2) Russia (12th, – 2) Georgia (6th, + 5) Germany (8th, + 4) So, all… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Colin
Héctor
Héctor
1 year ago

Fair result. Congratulations to France. I was hoping for my country, Spain, to finally win, but well, the juries weren’t satisfied it seems.

About the playback acussations towards France, I did think about that watching it live. Suspicious at least. But I suppose the EBU would have a say about that.

Also, I’m pretty sure France voted the other way round. If not we could be talking about strategic voting, which I think isn’t the case. Anyway, it doesn’t change anything.

Jeremy
Jeremy
1 year ago
Reply to  Héctor

I am quite sad for Valentina which is seeing all bad comments … I know she worked a lot vocally and she is a really good vocalist so I think we had only backing voices on her performance (such as for the lalala) but I hope EBU will take word on it and hopefully proof she was singing live to close some « mouth » and hope her victory not ruined by that.

Gaizka
Gaizka
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy

Jeremy sorry, but if you Shazam or you ask Siri about the song, it gives you the studio version… so this let you think about the playback.

Jeremy
Jeremy
1 year ago
Reply to  Gaizka

This doesn’t proof anything. The number of time I used Shazam on live version to find the studio version is huge ! Sorry

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Gaizka

That’s not how Shazam works.

Sabrina
Sabrina
1 year ago

Well, my 3 votes got 1st, 2nd and 3rd place, so I’m obviously very glad with the results! All countries should be proud about their artists and the effort their broadcasters put on these entries. And special thanks to EBU and TVP for facing all challenges and delivering a great show. The celebration of essential workers was a classy touch. So happy for Barbara and Igit. Like I said here before, writing songs for kids is quite complicated and they’re fantastic on it. Also, good to see the French hard work from the last few years paying off (now I’m… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Sabrina
Bella
Bella
1 year ago

Didn’t watch the show but based on the comments here, I have a question: was she lip-syncing? I never watch Junior Eurovision (I think it’s really bad, lol) but I would find it odd that they allow lip-syncing at a Eurovision live event.

Sabrina
Sabrina
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

I won’t single out any performer, because they’re kids after all. But EBU needs to take a note from tonight’s show, to avoid further problems ahead in ESC, where things can get way more heated. Not just because some countries may hide the lead vocals behind the recorded vocals, but also because I can see some lousy accusations being made online in order to damage opponents’ chances. I believe they took a more laid-back attitude towards JESC (and I can see why they did it), but they should be alert moving forward.

Bella
Bella
1 year ago
Reply to  Sabrina

Thanks for the insight! So was her live voice covered by the recorded vocals? I don’t really care about Junior Eurovision, but I sure hope that’s never allowed at the real ESC. I already find it bad enough when they have backing singers singing over the main singer (hello Azerbaijan 2016 and Greece 2017!).

FanESC
FanESC
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

I think she definitely sang live (she said it herself) but they simply put the studio version over. A few days ago after the rehearsal video was published, she even said she didn’t understand why they didn’t put her live voice.

Sabrina
Sabrina
1 year ago
Reply to  Bella

I guess the confusion came from the fact that Valentina was singing along with the “J’Imagine”s pre-recorded by a choir (and her voice was buried by it), while only her solo “J’Imagine”s were supposed to be performed live. But I also feel that in JESC they’re more laid-back about the mixing of the recorded track with the live vocals, in order to avoid exposing unexperienced performers to embarassing mistakes. Without an audience, this probably got more evident than usual. Normally the only similar problem we could have in the adult competition is the one that you mentioned: hidden backing vocals… Read more »

Una
Una
1 year ago
Reply to  Sabrina

Sabrina – I guess you are right about EBU possibly being more laid back about JESC. The competition in the big contest is atroucious. But the Eurovision brrraand is way too important so I don’t foresee any possibiity for a “scandal”. The only way about a fair ESC is 1. clear rules 2. tight supervision and 3. transparency.

Sabrina
Sabrina
1 year ago
Reply to  Una

I’m not saying they’ll be lousy enough to allow a scandal to happen, Una, but I think we agree that they need to be more careful with some aspects of the contest and the pre-recorded vocals brings new challenges to their supervising skills. There’s not many people willing to pull a controversy in JESC, but we know how things get heated during ESC.

Ian
Ian
1 year ago

I also commented the same thing. 6 points to Germany( the country juries hated the most ) 10 to Russia ( third most hated by jury ) And twelve to Serbia ( second most hated by juries ) something is wrong here

Ian
Ian
1 year ago

I swear I think the french jury votes were announced in the opposite order. they gave 12 points to serbia. Germany, Russia and Serbia received the most points from them. Please someone check

Nate
Nate
1 year ago
Reply to  Ian

They just voted strategically so no strong contender would get more points

TheDr Mistery
TheDr Mistery
1 year ago
Reply to  Ian

If that’s true, the only change in the placings would have been Poland being 8th and Malta 9th.

TheDr Mistery
TheDr Mistery
1 year ago
Reply to  TheDr Mistery

Results with opposite voting of French juries:

  1. France: 200
  2. Kazakhstan: 154
  3. Spain: 145
  4. Netherlands: 137
  5. Belarus: 136
  6. Georgia: 111
  7. Ukraine: 102
  8. Poland: 99
  9. Malta: 94
  10. Russia: 79
  11. Serbia: 77
  12. Germany: 64
mark dowd
mark dowd
1 year ago

France had very “Loin d’ici” staging.. Perfect song for JESC. The Kazakh song would translate best to a mainstream ESC final.. It was an excellent composition.

Alex
Alex
1 year ago
Reply to  mark dowd

good observation about Loin d’ici!

The Kazakh song was always meant to appeal juries, but i think the visuals were too much for a junior song contest.

Last edited 1 year ago by Alex
John the Go
1 year ago
Reply to  mark dowd

I wasn’t a huge fan of the Kazakh song, but I think the staging was really good. Could definitely imagine something similar in the adult version.

Nicky
Nicky
1 year ago
Reply to  mark dowd

this proves Kazakhstan should have a debut at adult esc, they are well capable of a good song/staging production, and kazakh language is another fab addition to the show as well

Skiwalko
Skiwalko
1 year ago

I’m really happy for France. This victory is the crowning moment of three years of consistent quality, exceptional talent, hard work and incredible passion for the contest. This year they managed to make what could’ve been a banal entry into a fun, catchy tune full of youthful spirit and positive energy, with message that holds true for each and every one of us. A perfect song for trying times. Huge congrats to the adorable Valentina, as well as the songwriters – Barbara Pravi and Igit (I’d love for either of them to go to Eurovision one day). France’s win also… Read more »

Alex
Alex
1 year ago
Reply to  Skiwalko

omg Igit from Destination Eurovision!!

FanESC
FanESC
1 year ago
Reply to  Alex

Igit (DE2018) and Barbara Pravi (“L’un près de l’autre” by Noée, DE2018) actually composed “J’imagine” as well as “Bim Bam Toi” (JESC 2019) and “Maman me dit” from Angélina (2019).

They exactly understood how to grab french essence into a bop, we need them to work on a song for the new french national final.

Iain
Iain
1 year ago

Serbian song was very strong istrumentaly and was great ballad. If it was in English would be even higher placed. But in Serbian sounded more repatitive and little bit forgetful after listening all songs.

Alex
Alex
1 year ago

Btw, well done to Poland for organising the contest under such difficult times. The performances were excellent and Duncan’s hologram was impressive!!! Did we see hints of what we’re going to experience at ESC 2021?

dxi
dxi
1 year ago
Reply to  Alex

Omg I didn’t even notice that Duncan was a hologram hahaha I feel so stupid right now

Jaz
Jaz
1 year ago
Reply to  dxi

I didn’t either…granted, I was tweeting at the time, but talk about my dumbest moment of 2020!

Nobody Important
Nobody Important
1 year ago

Spain was my winner. But I’m living for all the salty Spanish fans! Stop blaming everything you can think of, grow up and stop hating on a freaking child! You lost fair and square!

Last edited 1 year ago by Nobody Important
Frisian esc
Frisian esc
1 year ago

Can you pinpoint the salty spanish fans? I legitimately can’t find them. And pointing out the use of playback isn’t saltiness per se.

Alex
Alex
1 year ago
Reply to  Frisian esc

Check twitter (use relevant hashtag) + instagram posts in the official junior eurovision account. It’s a shame as they tag Valentina to see their arrogant comments. Disgusting.

Frisian esc
Frisian esc
1 year ago
Reply to  Alex

Oh i don’t have twitter xD but i know it’s toxic 24/7. That’s sad.

Laura
Laura
1 year ago

Thank you Igit and Barbara Pravi for offering us 2 fantastic JESC songs (Bim Bam toi last year and J’imagine this year) ! Well deserved win for France 🙂 Now we need them both to write something (or even perform) for the adult contest !