Earlier this week, Destiny released “Je me casse”, her song for Malta at Eurovision 2021. The song came with a lively music video, which included a scene of Destiny with a fit male model. This scene has attracted criticism and now Destiny has defended her music video against accusations of objectification.

Destiny sat down with Maltese news site Lovin Malta to answer a few questions about her Eurovision 2021 entry. The reporter noted that some people felt the scenes with the male model were objectifying and asked Destiny for her take on the matter. Destiny responded:

“No, I am not objectifying anything or anyone. The message I want to give out — the message of the song is that women are powerful and women are independent and we don’t need a man to be independent and powerful. That’s the message. It’s not about not needing men in general, it’s about women empowerment. The message is to have people, girls my age to never give up on themselves and feel comfortable in their own skin. That’s what I want to bring out from the song. It’s not about “Eh, because we don’t need men in our lives.” No, that’s not the message, so people should take note.”

The subject of sexual objectification in media is a hot topic in Malta. Recently a local brand of flavoured milk was criticised for an advertisement showing a man fantasising about his female work colleague. Some are wondering if Destiny’s video should also be criticised in a similar way.

However, the scene in Destiny’s video could be taken as a parody of the typical music video cliche of women being objectified for the benefit of the straight male viewer.

Kyle Curmi, the model in Destiny’s “Je me casse” music video

The model in the “Je me casse” music video is Kyle Curmi, a Maltese model. He is best known to Maltese viewers for starring in the 2019 series of the popular Maltese adventure travel reality show Liquorish.

Kyle recently posted a photo from the “Je me casse” video shoot to his Instagram. The photo shows Kyle and Destiny hugging. Rather than the blank expression he has in the music video, Kyle and Destiny are both smiling.

The affection between the two performers is clear, with Destiny commenting on the photo, “My Prince Charming”.

 

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Destiny reacts to being top of the betting odds for Eurovision 2021

In Destiny’s interview with Lovin Malta, she also talked about the response she’d received to “Je me casse”, saying, “I’m thankful for everyone because I’ve received a lot of positive comments and the feedback is incredible and I’m happy about it.”

When asked if she preferred “Je me casse” or her 2020 song “All of My Love”, Destiny had a clear favourite. She explained, “I love last year’s song but obviously I prefer this song because it shows the 18-year-old Destiny, the cheeky side of Destiny.”

Despite currently being top of the odds to win Eurovision 2021, Destiny also said she wasn’t letting the pressure get to her. She also told the interviewer that she doesn’t want to think of any of the other competing songs as being a “threat” – her focus is more on doing her best and enjoying the Eurovision experience.

What do you think? How do you interpret the “Je me casse” music video”? Tell us your thoughts below.

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Lana
Lana
8 months ago

I mean it happened to women plenty of times and nobody cared, so why should this be a thing

europotato
europotato
8 months ago
Reply to  Lana

A thing called double standards. Just because crap things like this have happened to women, doesn’t mean it’s cool to turn the tables.

Luke
Luke
8 months ago

So many people getting triggered in this thread; so many snowflakes. Lighten up people, listen to the music and try to enjoy yourselves. Too many people getting offended by the simplest of things!!!

ESC 2021
8 months ago

Dont let Malta and Russa be in ESC this year. And take Israels victory to Cypres. If a man did the same, hes not be in Esc . This is sexism.

Jofty
Jofty
8 months ago
Reply to  ESC 2021

I can’t understand the fuss; inappropriate flags, shirtless men. If I was as good-looking as Kyle I would be happy to take off more than my shirt! And I will never earn as much money as him. Lighten up things are bad enough!

ESC 2021
8 months ago
Reply to  Jofty

When a women do the same, its sexism. When a man do it, it fun

Internet Person
Internet Person
8 months ago

I smell a double standard….

Lana
Lana
8 months ago

for a reason tho)

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago

The MeToo movement isn’t only about women who are denuncing sexual harrasments from men — or even women. It also involves men who are doing the same by denuncing harrasments they suffered from women, but also men ! One of them is famous, ’cause it was about the actor Terry Crews, that had his intimate parts being grobbed by influent businessmen in Hollywood back in 2016. By reading your comment, I’m understanding that only cases in which you’ll hear from the MeToo movement supporters are exclusively when they are about women being harrassed/objectifyied/raped or anything else by men. But that’s… Read more »

Last edited 8 months ago by Ellen
Dawid
Dawid
8 months ago

Destiny… If you can’t defend it, then just don’t bring it up. You just said “No. And you’re dumb if you think so.”

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Dawid

That’s what you feel, but that’s not what she said. Stick to her interview and stop putting in her mouth things she didn’t even say. You’re twisting it.

poe-tay-toe-chips
poe-tay-toe-chips
8 months ago

I bet if she were skinnier this criticism wouldn’t even be happening….fit men get paired with thin women in music videos all the time and no one bats an eye. And I don’t also want to say that her race is also likely a reason for the unfair criticism, but it probably is.

Like I get people have their point…but I’m also pretty sure that if she looked different the criticism would not be as harsh.

Last edited 8 months ago by poe-tay-toe-chips
Kris
Kris
8 months ago

The criticism is cause she is trying to bring a message of “feminism “. The feminist movement was based on a certain treatment that females were subjected to and their fight to stop this notion in people’s head. If girls start applying the same notions on guys they are no longer in position to not ask the same treatment to be done to them . Cause all movements are centred on trying to bring equality. Do onto others what you want others to do onto you.

Esc Spain
Esc Spain
8 months ago
Reply to  Kris

A little big of reverse sexism won’t hurt anyone 😉

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Esc Spain

That’s not how things have to be. No one will take feminism and women’s fights for their rights seriously if women are doing the same to men. We want equity, not reverse dominance. But, again, that’s not what the point of the mv is conveying with Kyle being shirtless — to my strictly personal opinion, shared with other people. Plus he only appeared a few seconds contrary of the rest of the things we see in the video. What about the stong empowerment message at its beginning ? What about the beautiful women that are part of it ? People… Read more »

Last edited 8 months ago by Ellen
Esc Spain
Esc Spain
8 months ago

Absolutely. In fact, what I thought when I saw the video was that they were trying to portrait that image of the “perfect boy” unreachable for a big girl like Destiny according to beauty and social standards.

Jimmy Smit
Jimmy Smit
8 months ago

Whoever put together the cover photo for this article deserves a tip.

Last edited 8 months ago by Jimmy Smit
Alex
Alex
8 months ago

the video is awesome, Destiny has so many looks and it’s difficult to choose one favourite. She’s sassy and has stage charisma.

Harlow
Harlow
8 months ago

Why give air time to such rubbish really wiwi blogs .. always adding fuel to the fire

mark dowd
mark dowd
8 months ago

Reverse these roles..and the semi naked woman becomes a “piece of meat.”

Just saying.

Alex
Alex
8 months ago
Reply to  mark dowd

that has been going on for decades, just take a look at all the music videos from 90s and 00s. rappers/hip hop/ pop hits by male artists.

and suddenly some snowflakes/sexists are offended by a half naked male model being dominated by a strong woman. give me a break…

Mark
Mark
8 months ago
Reply to  Alex

No one said it was new, or novel. Just a question of what it portrays, whether it be 1990s, 2000s or 2021. Mr Snowflake.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Alex

I knida agree with you, but to me, the male model doesn’t seem to be dominated by Destiny. I mean, contrary to Hatari and Maruv in 2019, it’s totaly different. But I get your point. It’s just a matter of perception.

TheStage
TheStage
8 months ago

Look… the guy is beautiful! He is obviously beautiful. I couldn’t take my eyes off him. The video makes no mask he is beautiful. It fits the video. I’m not sure if it fits the song intent. I don’t care… I hope we have a few more shirtless guys with destiny on stage as she looks like she is having fun! Go girl.

Mws
Mws
8 months ago
Reply to  TheStage

#MenToo

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
8 months ago

I thought someone might bring this up, but that’s how you know… it’s a contest. 😉

Jo.
Jo.
8 months ago

always the same yada yada from those with too much time to spare…

Martin Månsson
Martin Månsson
8 months ago

Destiny: We don’t need men!
Also Destiny: Needs men in order to convey her message.

PS. Joke… it’s just a joke.

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
8 months ago

It’s funny because it’s true. Fortunately, there are plenty of gay men who love Destiny, but don’t want her “skin”. 🙂

AM2PM
AM2PM
8 months ago
Reply to  Purple Mask

What does that even mean?

Marseille
Marseille
8 months ago

As a woman and a feminist, I really do have a problem with the way the model is potrayed on the video. It could have been easily solved by just having him smile and join her in her flirtation, he doesn’t even have to touch her. What’s the point of him being there if he’s going to have such a sour expression? It’s a diservice to Destiny, the song and the message.

Kedmir
Kedmir
8 months ago
Reply to  Marseille

Hear hear! Women are born strong and independent. Besides, debasing and objectifying men is not a laudable way to promote feminism. That scene in the music video is really unsuited.

Last edited 8 months ago by Kedmir
Thiefo
8 months ago

It’s not a women empowerment song if it doesn’t offend men! hah!

Kedmir
Kedmir
8 months ago
Reply to  Thiefo

Women are inherently powerful and strong. It is really pathetic that Destiny treated an alive man like a sex doll in that music video to make herself look strong.

Thiefo
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

Well, people clearly get a different idea from the video, because that’s not what I see, at all.

Kedmir
Kedmir
8 months ago
Reply to  Thiefo

A real feminist song wouldn’t diminish either gender. It is about equality not superiority.

Thiefo
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

Absolutely agree! That’s what true feminism is about.
But back to the point, again, we’re seeing things differently here, I don’t see Destiny objectifying the guy, I don’t think the song is degrading men, if you see it that way, well, we differ in our points of view, that’s what I’m saying.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

Could you tell me which lyrics in ‘Je Me Casse’ are disminishing male gender ? I don’t wanna argue, I just want a clear answer.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

If no one is responding to me when I’m gently and calmly asking a question, then I presume I have my answer. No parts of ‘Je Me Casse’ are ‘disminishing’ the male gender. I knew that, but I have to write it and make other people considering it. You’re free to agree or disagree with that opinion.

Last edited 8 months ago by Ellen
Kedmir
Kedmir
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

As you can see, there is a presumption in the lyrics as well. She assumed that when she was drunk, bad men would come up to her. You tell me, ISN’T IT PRESUMPTION? Besides, the assumption is about all men are bad men. It’s a horribly wrong perception.

Last edited 8 months ago by Kedmir
Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

Stick to the actual lyrics. You’re giving me YOUR interpretation of them. Where do you see ‘BAD MEN’ in those lyrics ? ‘Boy, why you puttin’ that drink in my hand? Think if I’m drunk then I’d give you a chance? Boy, you keep buying, ain’t complyin’, so stop tryin’ Not gonna give it up, ain’t changin’ my plans’ Where do you the lyrics referring to ‘bad men would come to her’ and ‘the assumption is about all men are bad men’ as you say in your comment ? There’s nothing about it. You’re just misoverinterpretating the song lyrics, as… Read more »

Alonso
Alonso
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

Man, just ignore her. Crazy fans who lost their minds aren’t worth your time.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Alonso

Why are you minding my comments then ?

And now, I’m crazy. We can’t defend and stand up as a fan without being called that nowadays, that’s sad.

Alonso
Alonso
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

You can absolutely defend songs you like. I’m not saying no. I’m allowed to say my opinions as well. But you called men ‘clueless’ yesterday, remember? Why did you insult men and not apologize at all? If this is how you defend Destiny and support the feminism, I suggest you’d better save it and don’t make a fool of yourself or her.

Last edited 8 months ago by Alonso
Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Alonso

Yeah I remember it. And I apologise to you for not clarifying what I meant by ‘clueless’. It wasn’t my intention to insult you, I meant ‘clueless’ like in ‘you have no clue what you’re talking about’. And if it made you and Vanilla angry about that. I apologise for that. It wasn’t my intention at all. I understand now why I have so many dislikes on that comment

Alonso
Alonso
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Apology accepted. And may god bless you.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Alonso

Thanks, you too. I just hope people will read this comment. I really didn’t wanted to insult you and Vanilla earlier. That really wasn’t my initial point. Same thing for the others that could have been offended or felt insulted.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Alonso

I indeed support feminism, but my comments aren’t written in its name. They have nothing to do with it.

Kedmir
Kedmir
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Just can’t believe you are still here! It’s been like a whole day! So now, let’s see, the most unsuited line is “Boy, why you puttin’ that drink in my hand? Think if I’m drunk then I’ll give you a chance?” She automatically assumes all men are bad. But the truth is not every single man is bad and into her type, okay? Why would they take advantage of you when you’re drunk?

Last edited 8 months ago by Kedmir
Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

You’re just being ridiculous and narrow-minded. The most ridiculous thing is that you’re assuming ‘she she automatically assumes all men are bad’ while Destiny didn’t even wrote her song lyrics ?! She wasn’t credited on the creation of the song. You’re just making drama and noises for nothing. Is that diffucult for you, as a person, to see it ? And yeah, I’m still here to defend that beautiful soul that is Destiny. Where’s the problem ? People here are attacking her unfairly and without any strong evidence, so I have to counterbalance those negative comments and defend her. That’s… Read more »

Alonso
Alonso
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Wow you are really good at chicanery! You don’t even allow others to say their thoughts. Fine.

Last edited 8 months ago by Alonso
Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Alonso

Thanks. But I didn’t need you to answer. My last question was rhetorical. I don’t need anybody to allow me to be here and to defend ‘Je Me Casse’ and Destiny.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Alonso

He wrote what he tought. Did I say ‘don’t write that’ or ‘you’re not allowed to write that’ ? I don’t think so.

Alonso
Alonso
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

As long as others don’t see things the same way as you do, you call them ‘ridiculous’, ‘narrow-minded’ and ‘clueless’. That’s how you shut them up.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Alonso

I get that. I’m gonna use ‘obstinate’ for the next time. I guess that’s the best option I have not to offend people in my future comments.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Pete Barringer, Nicklas Eklund, Amanuel Dermont and Malin Christin (a woman) are the ones credited to the writing of the lyrics. Where is Destiny’s name, honey ? Nowhere. Now stop with your presumptions that she is portraying ALL men as bad in ‘Je Me Casse’. ‘Cause she didn’t wrote the song. And there are no disminishing the male gender here. Period. End of the debate. Plus,the irony of all that drama is that 3 men participated to write the lyrics of the song. And y’all are here trash talking Destiny…. And y’all dare talking to me about feminism ? The… Read more »

Kedmir
Kedmir
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

yay, she is not one of the songwriters, music video also has nothing to do with her, all of this is none of her business right? So what’s the point she came to participate in Eurovision? To rock the boat?

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

You clearly just wrote earlier ‘As you can see, there is a presumption in the lyrics as well. She assumed that when she was drunk, bad men would come up to her’. And I’m telling you that she couldn’t assume anything about men wuth the lyrics of her song cause she didn’t write them. And that’s real. I’m proving you wrong that Destiny isn’t assuming anything about men, YOU ARE assuming things in HER NAME. That’s all the t. Why are you then talking about ‘rocking the boat’ and her participation ?! I’m talking about what you’re saying ! Why… Read more »

Kedmir
Kedmir
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

An artist who can both write lyrics and compose can go far.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

Yes, I know that. But what does it have to do with my comment earlier ?

raspadinha
raspadinha
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

That’d be true unless this video is portraying a satire to the likes of regular videos that often objectify women.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  raspadinha

Amen !

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago

At the end of the day, this is not the Eurovision Music Video Contest. So that ‘outrageous’, ‘offensive’ and ‘degrading’ MV ‘objectifying’ a male model won’t be shown on TV. And all of that drama will be over… Well, I hope so. Now I just can’t wait to see ‘Je Me Casse’ being performed on stage.

Kedmir
Kedmir
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Girrrrl, you must be from Malta. You can really talk! Okay we get it, you must be defending your own country’s entry.

Last edited 8 months ago by Kedmir
Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

Again… Presumptions that aren’t facts. If I’m defending Malta, I’m automatically from Malta and not from a different country, right ? Another pointless debate coming in which I don’t wanna be a part of.

Kedmir
Kedmir
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Hey look what you said, if if if blah blah blah, you are using presumptions as well. Just tell me which country you are from, oh maybe it’s America, cause you are Ellen DeGeneres whose show was CANCELLED.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Kedmir

Will it change anything to your opinion to know where I’m from ? Not. At. All. I don’t owe you any justification about me since i wanna preserve my identity. Ellen is not even my name.

And what’s the point of bringing Ellen Degeneres here ? In which way is it relevant to our debate ? Tell me about it quickly.

I know I’m right if you’re making fun of my username rather than bringing constructive answers to counterbalance my reasoning. I know I’m doing a good job.

hgfjd
hgfjd
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Speaking the facts

Héctor
Héctor
8 months ago

There are always sterile arguments about these topics. So boring and irritating. Could please people stop taking things too far? You can’t talk or do anything anymore without being critized. It is true, though, there are double standards when it comes to women and men. But it is also true women have been coping with a lot of issues caused by men and other women for centuries, unlike men. I just want people to calm down and stop trying to create an argument about every little detail in every aspect of our lives. That’s why I hate social media these… Read more »

Stef
Stef
8 months ago

Kyle looks hot….I hope she will bring him on the ESC stage!

Male rights matter
Male rights matter
8 months ago

Yes! she is! Just change the male model for a female model and Destiny for Uku Suviste or Rafal. All feminist would be screeming about the rights of woman! Do not be hypocrites!

The French Hufflepuffie
The French Hufflepuffie
8 months ago

Tbh I really don’t care, and I’m tired that there are more and more useless controversies about the songs…

Doris
Doris
8 months ago

I will just be offended by the juries + public bad musical tastes if the nightmare of this song winning becomes true.

hgfjd
hgfjd
8 months ago
Reply to  Doris

Your nightmare is my dream

Aplk
Aplk
8 months ago

It doesn’t offend me but also I find the scene very cringy and because of it I don’t watch the music video.

Anhel
Anhel
8 months ago

I dunno if I agree with that, that part of the video made me very uncomfortable personally.

Jayme
Jayme
8 months ago
Reply to  Anhel

Made you uncomfortable? Are you for real? I swear y’all get triggered with just the simplest of things these days. Give it a break now will you? You’ve taken this to a whole new (unnecessary) level now. If it made you feel uncomfortable, then do not watch it.

Serena00
Serena00
8 months ago

“it shows the 18-year-old Destiny, the cheeky side of Destiny.” I’m sorry, but to me the song gives vibes of mid 20s – 30 year old woman
“Boy why you putting that drink in my hand
Think if I’m drunk then I’ll give you a chance”
I don’t think the songwriters had in their mind that Destiny is 18

Doris
Doris
8 months ago
Reply to  Serena00

Miley Cyrus vibes

raspadinha
raspadinha
8 months ago
Reply to  Serena00

In Europe it is OK to drink at 16, 17, 18… where are you from?!

Last edited 8 months ago by raspadinha
AM2PM
AM2PM
8 months ago
Reply to  Serena00

She is always styled as way older than she is. She’s actually slightly younger than Michaela was two years ago. Last year she was styled like a 40-something doing glamor. It’s easy to forget just how young she is.

RavensHeart
RavensHeart
8 months ago

What’s wrong with a bit of sexuality in either sex. I hope we’re not heading to some puritanical world where showing a bit of ankle is the height of promiscuity.

Straight guys and lesbians like looking at hot women, gay guys and straight women like looking at hot men. C’est la vie

knorkator
knorkator
8 months ago
Reply to  RavensHeart

Inequality, that’s what’s wrong. Women think they have all the rights to objectify men and all they need to say for their defense is “no, I’m not objectifying anyone, I’m a woman”. When men do exactly the same thing they get cancelled and ostracized.

RavensHeart
RavensHeart
8 months ago
Reply to  knorkator

Agree that’s wrong, but rather than banning male beauty in response, perhaps we should just allow both instead.

Toinousse
Toinousse
8 months ago
Reply to  knorkator

maybe because women are objectified all the time and also because men do not suffer objectification not discrimination at the same level? You can not compare when society as a whole treats men and women differently.

Pandaman
Pandaman
8 months ago
Reply to  Toinousse

That doesn’t excuse objectifying anyone, regardless of their gender.

Paul
Paul
8 months ago
Reply to  Pandaman

If everyone’s consenting – what’s the issue??

Pandaman
Pandaman
8 months ago
Reply to  Paul

If everyone’s consenting, then there is no issue. I think the whole conversation is about whether the character portrayed by the male model is happy with what’s going on.

Someone11
Someone11
8 months ago
Reply to  Paul

The issue is that it’s a bad role model.

Amadeus
Amadeus
8 months ago
Reply to  RavensHeart

It’s more about the hypocrisy of the song vis-à-vis the music video.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Amadeus

Did the mv has been made before the song ? Clearly not. You can say ‘the hypocrisy of the MV vis-a-vis the SONG’ but not the contrary. Otherwise it doesn’t make sense.

notyourtoy
notyourtoy
8 months ago

After that you can understand how much Maltese people fight for equality between men and women in any case. If in the videoclip there was a man doing all these stuff in a woman everyone would be accusing them for sexism, but in the opposite nothing happens (for example, see Serbian videoclips of Hurricane mostly in 2020 but also this year).

This might seem at times as Destiny using Kyle as her “toy”, but the truth behind this is that they are making fun of these types of videos overall.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  notyourtoy

Finally! Someone get it and tell it here.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

I especially love this part of your comment ‘This might seem at times as Destiny using Kyle as her “toy”, but the truth behind this is that they are making fun of these types of videos overall’. It MIGHT SEEM, but IT IS NOT. And people that are confirming that SHE IS using Kyle as a ‘toy’ and are taking it personally, are just like Vanilla and Alonso… Presuming/assuming/ making presumptions without any evidence/expressing their point of view — which I respect, at a certain point, all opinions should be expressed and be respected — but not the real thing… Read more »

Kedmir
Kedmir
8 months ago
Reply to  notyourtoy

Men did those disrespectful things to women in the old days, women now do those same things to men. It is a vicious circle, not fun at all. Someone should make fun of these inconsistent types of videos as well. Imagine a man doing all these stuff to a woman. Everyone would absolutely be accusing them for sexism. So why women did the same thing but can get away with it? It doesn’t make any sense.

jojo
jojo
8 months ago
Reply to  notyourtoy

Yes, the shirtless man reminded me of Hurricane’s 2020 video. Hurricane actually had two (identical twins). However, the Hurricane women are in their mid-twenties & Destiny is only 18. I think because she is still a teen, that is why some people are upset over it.

Darren
Darren
8 months ago

She doesn’t actually answer the question, she kind of goes around it. The guy kind of is being objectified in the video,
But look, she isn’t the first, she isn’t the last. She’s a great performer and she’ll do what she needs to do in Rotterdam regardless.

James
James
8 months ago

Eurovision this year is starting to become a season of Survivor. I wonder who we’re voting off next 😀

Polegend Godgarina
8 months ago

objectify me queen <3

Vytautas
Vytautas
8 months ago

Beta.

Ashton Schier
Ashton Schier
8 months ago
Reply to  Vytautas

lmao imagine still classifying people by alpha, beta, sigma, whatever. the straight energy of it all

Polegend Godgarina
8 months ago
Reply to  Ashton Schier

the good sis vytautas is clearly a iota bc he an idiota

notyourtoy
notyourtoy
8 months ago

Hahaha the comment of the year

Joey
Joey
8 months ago

I love Destiny and her song. But this move is very hypocritical. I’m all for female empowerment, but turn this thing around. If a man was singing about this and there was a woman standing in front of him à la “Blurred Lines”, people would be mad a.f. Love and respect come from both sides. Not just one. Women aren’t objects, men are neither.

Alonso
Alonso
8 months ago
Reply to  Joey

good point!

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Joey

I feel you, but there’s nothing hypocritical here. Here is the link to ‘Je Me Casse’ lyrics. https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Destiny-mlt-je-me-casse-lyrics

Read them… and tell me where there are parts that are ‘objectifying’ men. Quickly.

Last edited 8 months ago by Ellen
Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Keep disliking my comments Vanilla’s cheerleaders. I love seeing it lmao It just proves you read my commentS

Last edited 8 months ago by Ellen
Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Joey

Now here’s a part of ‘Blurred Lines’ sung by Robin Thicke.

‘Okay, now he was close
Tried to domesticate you
But you’re an animal
Baby, it’s in your nature (Meow)
Just let me liberate you (Hey, hey, hey)
You don’t need no takers (Hey, hey, hey)
That man is not your maker (Hey, hey, hey)
And that’s why I’m gon’ take a (Everybody get up)’

Now underline the sexist, misogynistic and objectifying lyrics.

Get my point ?

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

No replies ? That’s right. ‘Cause there aren’t objectifying lyrics in ‘Je Me Casse’. Only the MV part with Kyle can be interpreted as an ‘objectifying’ moment, but to me it is not. Kyle isn’t doing something I can consider as ‘degrading’ toward men. Neither Destiny, that is just playing sexy to me. So stop being drama queens for nothing. And i’m not talking about you Joey

Pandaman
Pandaman
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

I think there are no replies because no one wants to bear with you and your patronising, elitist tone.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Pandaman

And you know me very well to say that to me. Again, people still assuming things… That’s terrible. There are no replies ’cause there are nothing more to say. I ended the debate. No one can tell me that what I pointed out was wrong. Otherwise, there would still have been comments under mine, trying to prove that they were actually wrong. But there’s none. Except yours that is just highlighting and qualifying my tone as ‘patronising elitist’. I’m not all of that. I’m just here to defend something that I consider as unfair and irrelevant. You can qualify my… Read more »

myoozik
myoozik
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

oh my god, can you please just shut up

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  myoozik

That’s a really constructive comment. You can be proud of it.

Pandaman
Pandaman
8 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

I don’t know you, and all I can refer to are your posts here. Those contain a piece of information and a certain tone to it, and the latter seems aggressive and patronising. I didn’t say anything about you personally. For someone who keeps on accusing people of “assuming”, you seem to be doing just that a lot. Maybe that’s not your intention, I don’t know, but the tone you’re using here is upsetting. Also, people usually don’t like discussing with someone who explicitly states that whoever disagrees with them is wrong (“No one can tell me that what I… Read more »

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Pandaman

I feel it. One of my last convo with two users here didn’t make me happy at all. And yes, I know I’m assuming, but mostly with the user called Alonso. He was assuming some things, and I was assuming the contrary to make him get it. If there’s no evidence to what you’re saying — like the fact that the male model in ‘Je Me Casse’ mv isn’t happy to appear on it while we have no information about it — then I’m pointing it out. That’s all. There are other people here that are disagreeing with my opinions,… Read more »

Thanos
Thanos
8 months ago

Female empowerment is one thing but when men are being ridiculed at the same time it just becomes a bit offensive. Nevertheless, I think that I have heard many better female empowerment anthems than this one and personally I don’t think that it’s going to win.

Last edited 8 months ago by Thanos
Paul
Paul
8 months ago
Reply to  Thanos

Ridiculed?! He’s standing there with his shirt off…?

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Yep. People are offended so easily nowadays. Am I right Vanilla ? 3:)

Dawid
Dawid
8 months ago
Reply to  Thanos

Why not just people empowerment? Just look at Romania. “Love yourself, whoever you are” instead of “Love yourself IF you’re a lady”

Last edited 8 months ago by Dawid
Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Dawid

‘Love yourself IF you’re a lady’. With what you’re writing, I’m assuming and understanding that ‘Je Me Casse’ message is ‘love yourself if your a lady, we don’t care if you’re man’. And that’s not the point of the song. You better reverse your sentence for ‘LADIES (without any exception), you must love yourselves’. That’s one of the messages the song is conveying.

Thanos
Thanos
8 months ago

Female empowerment is one thing but when men are being ridiculed at the same time it just becomes a bit offensive. I think that I have heard many better female empowerment anthems than this one and personally I don’t think that it’s going to win.

Chris Malta
Chris Malta
8 months ago

Mr Vanilla Bean, get a new hobby. What is wrong with you? When you want come to Malta maybe you stop criticizing every single song and article related to my country. I really pity you because it is clear that you are not offering any constructive feedback but being silly and trying to ridicule where you cannot ridicule. By the way, it s your main scope in life it seems, since you re always writing bad reviews everywhere. Get a Life

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Chris Malta

Amen hahaha. You get a point.

Kris
Kris
8 months ago

Lol , Our beloved wiwibloggs gotta get some “soldi soldi ” from somewhere.

AM2PM
AM2PM
8 months ago
Reply to  Kris

yaskweenslay

Paul
Paul
8 months ago

Can everyone please stop being offended by everything

Kris
Kris
8 months ago
Reply to  Paul

How dare you make such a comment.

Paul
Paul
8 months ago
Reply to  Kris

No offence intended! Please don’t cancel me!

GrantK
GrantK
8 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Unfortunately it’s the era of the snowflake

Brötchen
Brötchen
8 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Yes, Paul, could we please stop being offended by people offering their criticism and giving their opinion?

Okan idu?
Okan idu?
8 months ago

You don’t have to objectify man to say women are strong. Clip didn’t need a shirtless guy to say women are strong.

The song itself has a few questionable messages. I love the song and it is one of my winners so far but lets not claim it is a powerful anthem. A real feminist song wouldn’t diminish either gender. It is about equality not superiority. I wouldn’t call either the lyrics or the video offensive but at the same time neither helps the intended message of the song.

Ende
Ende
8 months ago

When will the song be available on spotify ?

Paul
Paul
8 months ago
Reply to  Ende

Monday

Lou
Lou
8 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Why dislike a comment for asking when the song will be out on Spotify?!

The level of hatred towards Malta’s entry is insane.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Lou

It really is insane. Insane and unfair. It just proves that there are people out here that are ready to dislike anything that is positive or kinda neutral about Malta. That’s really sad to see it.

Luk
Luk
8 months ago
Reply to  Ende

The level of hatred towards Malta’s entry is insane!

Why dislike a comment just for asking when Je Me Casse will be out in Spotify? Pathetic

Last edited 8 months ago by Luk
Faker
Faker
8 months ago

Who cares… Music video is good, song is good. Just enjoy 🙂

ESCFan2009
ESCFan2009
8 months ago

Why is everybody complaining about the shirtless guy and not about the 7 girls in swimsuits dancing in the water showing their legs and so on? 😀 So I also think it’s about playing with stereotypes ^^

Kris
Kris
8 months ago
Reply to  ESCFan2009

Probably cause it didn’t look as weird as the guy did

ESCFan2009
ESCFan2009
8 months ago
Reply to  Kris

Understandable 🙂 Well, I love “Je me casse” musically so much, I might be a bit more tolerant regarding the video as someone who didn’t like the song at all (edit: wouldn’t be tolerant if it shows (hate) crime or sth like that ofc). “Excuse my French” 😉

Last edited 8 months ago by ESCFan2009
Kris
Kris
8 months ago

Why was she not asked if she thinks her odds are fake or real ?

It was weird , I don’t know about the objectification , but the scene in the music video looks weird to me ,as Destiny and the guy don’t look photogenic in that

Last edited 8 months ago by Kris
Biberal
Biberal
8 months ago
Reply to  Kris

After the corona virus and the American presidential elections the conspiracy theories effecting eurovision as well. Good to know.

Vytautas
Vytautas
8 months ago

That’s really not possible since the song was entitled “women empowerment”, thus, if you aren’t objectifying men in the music video, you’re objectifying women, to say the least. I mean, literally, on a psychological level, Destiny is focusing on women to “go for something” which is to say least is objectifying women as they don’t do what Destiny is assuming they should do. Cmon, we live in a world where each and everyone is somebody, and so you can not exemplify somebody if you are singing about somebody.

Briekimchi
Briekimchi
8 months ago

Not quite there yet myself but your point is well-made, sir.

Sophie
Sophie
8 months ago

I cannot believe people are trying to twist this! Since many are criticing the fact that there’s a half naked man, I’ll give my opinion on that. There’s a perception that men (and women) can get whatever they want for having a great image. Whilst it may seem appealing, this may not be the case, and women (and men) need more than what meets the eye! I have had experiences were handsome men had offered me a drink at a club, and when I rejected, I have been called names.. This happens to many women and men too. So, in… Read more »

Last edited 8 months ago by Sophie
Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Sophie

Speaking facts. Period.

Colin
Colin
8 months ago

Me (with both Bulgaria and Germany in my top 10) – smile and nod. 😉

As I said up there, it’s normal that people sometimes have different opinions.

Colin
Colin
8 months ago
Reply to  Colin

Blame it on my odd taste. I often like random comedic acts if they are cute and memorable and this is both. 🙂
Also, Jendrik’s colorful personality is the backbone of this being great for me. It could have easily been annoying if the performer didn’t connect with it as good as he did.

Last edited 8 months ago by Colin
Colin
Colin
8 months ago

Remember, it’s our right not to like aspects of the song or video, but performers and writers owe as no modifications of their vision. I’ll write my own thoughts about the song when the review comes. And yes, there are lyrical aspects I’ll be critical about. Regardless of that, I am old enough to know that nobody can fully express themselves while catering to tens of thousands of people simultaneously. Ones will like it. Others won’t. Good luck, Destiny!

Last edited 8 months ago by Colin
Kosey
Kosey
8 months ago

My goodness, this song is so riddled with stereotypes. Am I allowed to be offended that it is so popular?

Amy
Amy
8 months ago

You got a hobby or something?! I suggest you spend more time on it. You have been commenting and showing your dislike to the song more than enough. We get it, but thankfully you do not represent the millions residing in Europe, so take a seat!

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago
Reply to  Amy

Period.

Sophie
Sophie
8 months ago
Reply to  Amy

Criticising surely is yours. What a sad life you must have..

Mrozo
Mrozo
8 months ago
Reply to  Amy

Spilling negativity on this website as always. You are gifted for that, no doubt about it. Hopefully you wont end up rotten by your own disgust of everything. That would be a shame.

Last edited 8 months ago by Mrozo
TD303
TD303
8 months ago
Reply to  Amy

You’re taking it way too far, dude! You’re making every single comment you put on here like a personal attack. If you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all.

jojo
jojo
8 months ago
Reply to  TD303

It’s not really Mr Vanilla Bean but the others replying to him who are initiating personal attacks on him (starting with antagonistic Amy) for his opinions of the songs & videos.

Last edited 8 months ago by jojo
helloman
helloman
8 months ago

This song is okay, but Montenegro 2012 (Euro Neuro) and Portugal 2011 (Luta e Alegria) were both stronger songs imo.

Ellen
Ellen
8 months ago

For the people that are coming at her, remember that Destiny didn’t directed her music video. So calm down with your critics.

T.J.
T.J.
8 months ago

OMG! This accusation is sooooooo ridiculous.