Switzerland Gjon's Tears First Rehearsal Eurovision 2021
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They were responsible for half of the vote on Saturday night. But who were the people who crowned Switzerland’s Gjon’s Tears the jury winner of Eurovision 2021? The EBU has now revealed the names of all the experts who made up the 39 professional juries.

There are several familiar names on the list including past contestants of both Eurovision itself and national selections. These include Estonia’s Eurovision 2001 winner Dave Benton, Malta’s two-time Eurovision star Ira Losco and Romania’s yodelling Ilinca from 2017.

The full list of names is published below. You can see how each individual juror voted in both the semi-finals and the grand finals on Eurovision.tv.

Eurovision 2021 jury members

Albania

  • Aurel Thellimi
  • Kastriot Tusha
  • Kejsi Tola (Eurovision 2009)
  • Rozana Radi
  • Sokol Marsi

Australia

  • Ash London
  • Brooke Boney
  • Jack Vidgen (NF 2020)
  • Kamahl
  • Millie Millgate

Austria

  • Drew Sarich
  • Norbert Schneider
  • PAENDA (Eurovision 2019)
  • Peter Pansky
  • Virginia Ernst

Azerbaijan

  • Atari Jafarova
  • Fuad Alishov
  • Sevda Alakbarzada
  • Vagif Gerayzada
  • Zamig Huseynov

Belgium

  • Kate Ryan (Eurovision 2006)
  • Lady Linn
  • Pommelien Thijs
  • Stefaan Fernande
  • Yves Ruth

Bulgaria

  • Christina Yankova Mateeva
  • Katya from duet Riton
  • Krassimir Nikolov Gyulmezov
  • Milka Koleva Miteva
  • Suti

Croatia

  • Denis Dumančić
  • Luka Nižetić
  • Monika Lelas Habanek
  • Nika Turković
  • Tonka

Cyprus

  • Andreas
  • Christiana Mitella
  • Marilena Charalambidou
  • Tasos Tryfonos
  • Alexandros Taramountas

Czech Republic

  • Boris Carloff
  • Debbi (NF 2018)
  • Elis Mraz (NF 2020)
  • Miro Žbirka
  • Tonya Graves

Denmark

  • Jonas Schroeder
  • Kill J
  • Lise Cabble (Songwriter, including “Only Teardrops)
  • Peter Düring
  • Tanne Amanda Balcells (Eurovision 2020)

Estonia

  • Birgit Sarrap (Eurovision 2013)
  • Dave Benton (Eurovision 2001 winner)
  • Elina Born (Eurovision 2015)
  • Karl-Ander Reismann
  • Stig Rästa (Eurovision 2015)

Finland

  • Amie Borgar
  • Jussi
  • Mirva
  • Samuli
  • Tommi

France

  • Adrien Kaiser
  • Gilbert Marcellus
  • Géraldine Allouche
  • Kahina Kimoune
  • Loic Parent

Georgia

  • David Evgenidze
  • Helen Kalandadze
  • Nodiko (Eurovision 2013)
  • Sopho Toroshelidze (Eurovision 2011)
  • Zaza Orashvili

Germany

  • Constantin Zöller
  • Ivy Quainoo (NF 2018)
  • Janin Ullmann
  • Matthias Arfmann
  • Uwe Kanthak

Greece

  • Adam Tsarouchis
  • Athena Konstantinou
  • Fotis Sergoulopoulos
  • Ioannis Vasilopoulos
  • Xenia Ghali

Iceland

  • Gudrun Gunnars
  • Matti Matt
  • Oddny Sturludottir
  • Regina (Eurovision 2008)
  • Snorri Helgason

Ireland

  • Ben Pyne
  • Fidelma Kelly
  • Karl Broderick (songwriter Eurovision 2005)
  • Louise Bruton
  • Luan Parle

Israel

  • Avia Farchi
  • Noy Aloosh
  • Ohad Hitman
  • Roni Superstar
  • Yossi Hersonski

Italy

  • Emanuele Lombardini
  • Giusy Cascio
  • Gregorio Matteo
  • Katia Riccardi
  • Stefano Mannucci

Latvia

  • Guna Zučika
  • Kaspars Zemītis
  • Magnuss Eriņš
  • PATRISHA
  • Valts Pūce

Lithuania

  • Darius Uzkuraitis
  • Bjelle
  • Giedrė
  • Jievaras Jasinskis
  • Rafailas Karpis

Malta

  • Annaliz Azzopardi
  • Ira Losco (Eurovision 2002 and 2016)
  • Kevin Abela
  • Michela (Eurovision 2019)
  • Sigmund Mifsud

Moldova

  • Constantin Moscovici
  • Dumitru Mitu
  • Ion Catar
  • Marina Djundiet
  • Nelly Ciobanu (Eurovision 2009)

North Macedonia

  • Darko Tasev
  • Erhan Shukri
  • Ile Spasev
  • Lara Ivanova
  • Robert Bilbilov

Norway

  • Aleksander Walmann (Eurovision 2017)
  • Anna-Lisa Kumoji
  • Kate Gulbrandsen (Eurovision 1987)
  • Rolf Lennart Stensø
  • VILDE

Poland

  • Anna Zaczek-Biderman
  • CLEO (Eurovision 2014)
  • Michaɫ Michalik
  • Norbi
  • Piotr Winnicki

Portugal

  • Dino D’Santiago
  • Dora (Eurovision 1986 and 1988)
  • João Reis Moreira
  • Marta Carvalho
  • Pedro Penim

Romania

  • DJ Andy
  • Ilinca (Eurovision 2017)
  • Liviu Teodorescu
  • Luminita Anghel (Eurovision 2005)
  • Razvan de la ZU

Russia

  • Alla Sigalova
  • Dina Garipova (Eurovision 2013)
  • Leonid Gutkin
  • Leonid Rudenko
  • Yulia Volkova (Eurovision 2003)

San Marino

  • Antonio Cecchetti
  • Elisa Manzaroli
  • Fabrizio Raggi
  • Jimmy JDKA
  • Marilia Reffi

Serbia

  • Ekstra Nena
  • Ivana Peters
  • Milan Stanković (Eurovision 2010)
  • Slobodan Markovi
  • Tijana (Eurovision 2017)

Slovenia

  • Amaya (Eurovision 2011)
  • Bojan Cvjetićanin
  • Boštjan Grabnar
  • Nuša Derenda (Eurovision 2001)
  • Raay (Eurovision 2015)

Spain

  • Antonio Hueso.
  • DAVID
  • Maria Peláe
  • Nerea
  • Samantha

Sweden

  • Björn Kjellman
  • Emelie Fjällström
  • Nanne Grönvall (Eurovision 1996)
  • Omar Rudberg (NF 2017 and 2019)
  • Tina Mehrafzoon#

Switzerland

  • Chiara Dubey (NF 2018)
  • Georg Schlunegger
  • Lisa Oribasi
  • Rico Fischer
  • Sophie de Quay

The Netherlands

  • Brainpower
  • Giovanca
  • Jessica van Amerongen
  • LAKSHMI
  • Leo Blokhuis

Ukraine

  • Alloise (NF 2016)
  • ILLARIA (NF 2018)
  • Igor Kondratiuk
  • Oleksandr Ponomarov (Eurovision 2003)
  • alyona alyona

United Kingdom

  • Aisha Jawando
  • Michelle Gayle (NF 2008)
  • Nicki Chapman
  • Ross Gautreau
  • Tom Aspaul

What names do you recognise from the juries? Would you like to see any return or debut at Eurovision? Let us know below.

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noone
noone
4 months ago

The juries should consist of much more people! I mean, the opinion (and bias!!!) of 5 people have the same weight as the vote of millions of viewers. That’s simply not OK, juries should have at least 50 people, maybe even 100. That would be much fairer and probably give us a very different result.

David
David
4 months ago

Very cool to see deeply underrated British singer-songwriter Tom Aspaul on this list.

EurofanGR
EurofanGR
4 months ago

I think that the jury should be a team from countries with the biggest music/entertainment industries from around the world (excluding Europe) for example, from the US, South Korea, Japan, Brazil, Canada, New Zealand etc, that way neighbor voting would be eliminated and would HOPEFULLY be more professional than whatever our countries in europe sent.

EurofanGR
EurofanGR
4 months ago
Reply to  EurofanGR

As a greek I’m happy to know that we will definitely get 12 points from Cyprus but it’s getting annoying, like WHERE’S THE SUSPENSE YALL

EurofanGR
EurofanGR
4 months ago
Reply to  EurofanGR

The major problems I see with what I said are:

1. Most of the countries have a colonial past with western European countries which means they share cultural ties and close relationships so, a new kind of “neighbor voting” which would see Eastern European countries being completely ignored.

2. These countries won’t be European so they would base their points on their personal taste, or their national taste (eg which song sounds more American, Brazilian etc)

3. We would have abandon the iconic vote announcement by each country.

Una
Una
4 months ago
Reply to  EurofanGR

How ludicrous. *Excuse me* but Eurovision is *European*.

There are some “connections” in the “industry” which are kind of visible for some people. Neighbour voting is just the tip of the iceberg and it’s laughable. The real problems lie somewhere else.

EurofanGR
EurofanGR
4 months ago
Reply to  Una

The only ludicrous around here is you babe

Pietro
Pietro
4 months ago
Reply to  EurofanGR

So brazillians would’ve favored Portugal and Italy every year. Americans would do the same with Uk and Israel. Not a good idea.

EurofanGR
EurofanGR
4 months ago
Reply to  Pietro

That’s why I don’t want it too

Alex
Alex
4 months ago

Not Romania forgetting Razvan’s family name and saying “The guy from ZU”

Bella
Bella
4 months ago

Every single year the same discussions, and yet… There were 39 juries voting, and I can only see 7 with suspicious top marks: the Serbian jury giving 12 points to France (Barbara has Serbian origins), Albania to Switzerland (Gjon has Albanian origins), Greece/Cyprus obviously, Russia to Moldova, Azerbaijan to Russia, and Macedonia to Serbia. That means the overwhelming majority of juries are doing their job correctly: Denmark/Finland/Iceland gave their 12 to Switzerland (not Sweden or Norway), Norway and Sweden gave their 12 to Malta (not to each other), Austria gave their 12 to Iceland (not Switzerland or Germany), etc. Also… Read more »

Kal
Kal
4 months ago
Reply to  Bella

The fact that you consider the Swedish jury’s 12pts to Malta an example of integrity simply shows how biased people are against Eastern European countries in the contest. The Swedish jury frequently awards its top points to Swedish penned entries, for instance: 12pts to Malta this year, 12pts to Cyprus in 2012 & 2018, they even gave 10pts to Azerbaijan’s “Miracle” in 2016!

Bella
Bella
4 months ago
Reply to  Kal

… Actually your comment just confirms the point I’m making: people focus on a couple of juries that are indeed biased, while the overwhelming majority of juries do their job properly. Even assuming the Swedish jury was indeed biased (I’ll trust you on that) that still leaves over 30 juries out of 39 that voted properly. That’s all I was saying.

Kal
Kal
4 months ago
Reply to  Bella

I haven’t checked the jury votes country by country but last night we all witnessed friendly voting, fishy voting and tactical voting. What I (probably) agree with you on (albeit with a different argument) is that all of this foul play does not have a significant impact on the overall result. The number of countries AND the number of points given is simply large enough to drown all of these jury misconducts. What if Cyprus gave 12pts to Greece or Russia 12pts to Moldova? That didn’t prevent Switzerland, France or Italy from coming on top. And that’s why we don’t… Read more »

Una
Una
4 months ago
Reply to  Kal

I see your point but that is for the GF.

There is the issue of going through from the semis to the final. Countries can lose out because of other’s “tactical” voting. Just look at what happened to Denmark this year and they had an amazing song and performance.

Vladimir P.
Vladimir P.
4 months ago
Reply to  Bella

Barbara got total 5 sets of 12 points and Gjon got 9 sets of 12 points (ending up second and first in the jury vote) and yet somehow only Serbian and Albanian votes for Barbara and Gjon are suspicous because the singers happened to be of Serbian and Albanian origin?!

Ian
Ian
4 months ago

Juries need major reform. The EBU is turning a blind eye to strategic voting by the nightmare team and SM-Poland and it’s disgusting.

Jose Uribe
Jose Uribe
4 months ago

I always wonder if there are personal biases. Who knows if Kate Ryan from Belgium met and was friends with Natalia in 2006?

Agent 007
Agent 007
4 months ago
Reply to  Jose Uribe

that’s why the number of juries should be increased to 10 at least.

Grace
Grace
4 months ago

Nika Turkovic from the Croatian Jury represented Croatia in the second Junior Eurovision Song Contest. I don’t remember the year, but her song was Hej mali.

Ewan
Ewan
4 months ago
Reply to  Grace

2004 ! Her recent music is well worth a listen ‘gledaj me’ is a great song

Ana
Ana
4 months ago

Roni Superstar (Roni Duani) for Israel is actually funny, because she’s a personal trainer. Like, in a gym or something. She used to be a singer many years ago and she was that plastic pop singer kind that was just pretty, and never sang live or been actually talented in music. And now she’s a personal trainer. Like why is she on the ESC national jury?

Last edited 4 months ago by Ana
Una
Una
4 months ago
Reply to  Ana

I think that in 2018 or 2019 the list of jury members had “age” and “occupation” including some member criteria e.g. connection to the music industry. What happened this year? I only saw names.

BoyWithEmotions
BoyWithEmotions
4 months ago

Well a lot of juries votes are really questionable, especially Russia/Bulgaria/Poland and etc.

can I add Ukrainian juries did a pretty good work, they very much resonate with local televote and they gave 12, 10 and 8p to Italy, France and Switzerland who were their main rivals in top 5, also Malta got 5p, and both televote and juries gave points to Belgium, the taste!

Bella
Bella
4 months ago

The point of a jury is not to “resonate” with the local televote. The jury is supposed to have another perspective, their vote *should* be different from the televotes. If they vote the same way, then what’s the point?

BoyWithEmotions
BoyWithEmotions
4 months ago
Reply to  Bella

well this year public just loved some same countries as juries, but they’re are not identical at all, just Italy, France and Switzerland recived love from both sides, and Belgium got points too

Bella
Bella
4 months ago

I was just responding to your comment that the Ukrainian jury “did a pretty good work” because they “very much resonate with local televote”. As I said it’s not the work of the juries to vote the same way as the televote, otherwise then there’s really no point in having both a jury and a televote. If the two votes converge why not, that just shows a song was able to reach both groups, but it shouldn’t be the goal.

BoyWithEmotions
BoyWithEmotions
4 months ago
Reply to  Bella

I don’t think when public and juries points are polarized is a good thing, juries very often votes political or absolutely bizarre, Ukrainian juries voting looks pretty much professional for me

Last edited 4 months ago by BoyWithEmotions
Bella
Bella
4 months ago

Define “very often”? I’m looking at the top marks attributed here. There were 39 juries voting, and I can only see 7 with suspicious votes: the Serbian jury giving 12 points to France (Barbara has Serbian origins), Albania to Switzerland (Gjon has Albanian origins), Greece/Cyprus obviously, Russia to Moldova, Azerbaijan to Russia, and Macedonia to Serbia. That means the overwhelming majority of juries are doing their job correctly: Denmark/Finland/Iceland gave their 12 to Switzerland (not Sweden or Norway), Norway and Sweden gave their 12 to Malta (not to each other), Austria gave their 12 to Iceland (not Switzerland or Germany),… Read more »

sandyp
sandyp
4 months ago

They really should look into how Greece and Cypus Juries give each other 12 points nearly every year. The whole point of the juries is for this kind of thing to not happen.

Charli Cheer Up
Charli Cheer Up
4 months ago
Reply to  sandyp

In 2015 when Cyprus finally tried to be fair by not giving 12 pts to Greece, the singer of Greece(Maria Elena) threw a fit in the news. She should’ve been hammered by the international media for promoting that agenda again.

Kal
Kal
4 months ago
Reply to  sandyp

No wrongdoing will be found. The Greece&Cyprus vote exchange is not rigged. No money or corruption is involved. It all comes down to the fact that the two countries share the same nation. The jurors simply vote for the other Greek entry (which by the way might already be quite popular in the 2 countries’ common music market). The fact that 12pts are also consistently exchanged in the televote is only proof of no corrupted wrongdoing.

Stephanie
Stephanie
4 months ago

When I see the names of the Belgian “jury”, I have to make an effort not to laugh. The only one with musical knowledge is Lady Linn… the rest…. Not that much!

Kosey
Kosey
4 months ago

If the UK is anything to go by, then there is good reason for me to fear the quality of the jury vote. There is very little diversity in taste in the selection of jurors, and hence we wonder why artists like Ukraine and Finland were unfairly panned. Something must change to save the credibility of the contest.

Yikes
Yikes
4 months ago

“Professional”

Heartbeater
Heartbeater
4 months ago

Ekstra Nena Was Yugoslavia last participant

Tiago B
Tiago B
4 months ago

Does anyone know how the results would’ve been under the old voting system?

acp
acp
4 months ago
Reply to  Tiago B

I saw a post on Reddit and everything is quite similar, but for example Italy would have won over France by just 1 point. Also, UK, Spain, Germany and the Netherlands would have recieved 0 points.

Doris
Doris
4 months ago
Reply to  Tiago B

Italy would have won by 1 point only to France !

WestMids
4 months ago

The make up of some.of the juries is very questionable and the points they awarded even more so. There needs to be consistent criteria across the countries to try to ensure some honesty and objectivity. That said, over all the system over the last three or four years has produced the most exciting voting in years. Who wants to watch 49 countries delivering combined scores or just televote scores with one country romping out of sight.

Yasmine
Yasmine
4 months ago

Whahaha professional jury member Kate Ryan for Belgium…

ESCJudge
ESCJudge
4 months ago

Polish 12pts from polish “proffessionals” for… San Marino -still makes me laugh the most.
But ofc “proffessional” 12 from Russia to Moldova, Greek-Cypriot swap… Sweden so low in juries and 0 for UK… that all makes this jury part look very lame… Why votes of 5 people are equal to votes of thousands people (if in the end many of jurors score what they like or support their friends, and not point out what should be scored for musical value)

Last edited 4 months ago by ESCJudge
Sandrine
Sandrine
4 months ago

Are we going to talk about Efendi and Tix love? Is there love between Blás and Barbara? On an other note, thank you to the 39 delegations for this amazing show over two weeks. Thank you to the Netherlands for preparing the most amazing musical show in Europe. Well done to Italy for its winning entry Zitti e Buoni performed by Måneskin! Thank you to the European audience for voting over the past week from semi final 1 to the final. You did a great job! May all the 39 entries know they are all winners either they are qualifiers,… Read more »

Last edited 4 months ago by Sandrine
Ted
Ted
4 months ago

Shout out to Michelle Gayle aka Hatti from BBC’s Eastenders.
I’m sure I still have her debut album somewhere hidden in a box upstairs, unless I sold it on ebay already.
Nicki Chapman, wasn’t she the judge of popstars which formed the short lived Hear’say?

Paul
Paul
4 months ago
Reply to  Ted

Pop idol! And Escape to the country presenter!

Ted
Ted
4 months ago
Reply to  Ted

as for the rest…Good ol’ google!

Aisha Jawando plays tina turner in the west end (OMG she’d be epic for eurovision)

Tom Aspaul is a singer songwriter. Unknown but he wrote “kiss me once” and album track for Kylie Minogue and a list of others less known popstars.

Ross Gautreau is an A&R man and also works on the The voice uk. apparently.

ANDREW BROWN
ANDREW BROWN
4 months ago
Reply to  Ted

Check out the song the program by Tom ft Funk Le Blanc and Madeleine W. Brilliant. He Should write a Eurovision song

Azaad
Azaad
4 months ago
Reply to  Ted

On your note about Aisha, the last time the UK sent a musical theatre performer to ESC (Lucie) they came 15th. Two years later Lucie headlined Waitress in the West End, one of the biggest musicals in London of 2019.

I think sending experienced musical theatre performers to Eurovision works for the UK – they are great singers and since Eurovision fans and musical theatre fans in the UK tend to overlap so if you someone well known in theatre circles UK Eurovision fans may actually already be fans of them.

WestMids
4 months ago
Reply to  Azaad

Lucie Jones came 15th and scored a.pathetic 12 points from the televote. She and her dreadful wailing came 657 points behind the winner. How exactly would you say that “worked” for the UK?

Azaad
Azaad
4 months ago
Reply to  WestMids

15th is a huge improvement over 24th, which is where the UK finished in 2016. Also, I was referring to the type of performer to send, not necessarily the song. Lucie was stronger than her song.

Azaad
Azaad
4 months ago
Reply to  Azaad

Also, given that Eurovision actually helped Lucie’s career in theatre, musical theatre performers would be less reluctant to do ESC than a regular pop singer.

Ted
Ted
4 months ago
Reply to  WestMids

Lucie song was epic. Staged beautifully and came 10th with the jury. It is a rare UK song to be proud of in the past 20 years of sending mostly duds.
It would have benefited with some backing vocals in places but that was a credible entry from the UK. The others being Jessica Garlic, Molly, and Blue. Shout out also to Surie who was a great ambassidor but deserved a better song. (oh and if only Asanda has sang in tune. That would have been an epic song to send that year)

Ric
Ric
4 months ago

I am not against the jury system per se but it is absurd that the televote seems to be less biased than the juries

ESC Stan
ESC Stan
4 months ago
Reply to  Ric

I’m not dissing your comment but it seems the right time to say this, but do you think that these professional juries are just judging on a more technical level than we would? I’m from Australia and know some of the jury and I wouldn’t believe they would do that. Of course at least some of the juries might but when do we start to have faith that some countries are objective and maybe we just don’t see what they see. Also, they have their own individual opinion despite their career. Again, I never said all, but some. It might… Read more »

Ric
Ric
4 months ago
Reply to  ESC Stan

I totally agree with you, jurors should bring objectivity into the distribution of points and that’s why we need them, but as you point out the people chosen too often don’t do this, especially considering that in some cases and countries it is enough to have produced one single song to be “Expert “.
In my opinion it should be asked to explain why a certain position is assigned to every entry, so that at least jurors have to “compromise” to the neutrality of the system which is requested.

Doris
Doris
4 months ago
Reply to  Ric

Not always, Denmark top 4 televote Iceland/Sweden/Norway/Finland lol

Ric
Ric
4 months ago
Reply to  Doris

Yes, of course I’m talking as the general state of things; but for example among favorites the televote in many cases was way more objective than juries (To me)

Jo.
Jo.
4 months ago

music unprofessionals

raylee
raylee
4 months ago
Reply to  Jo.

Nanne Grönval is the diva of Sweden and she is not unprofessional at all !!

Jo.
Jo.
4 months ago
Reply to  raylee

Yes, some countries were fair. But I just saw the results from the Bulgarian jury, it’s atrocious.

Paul
Paul
4 months ago

I love that Michelle Gayle was involved for the UK! And Nanne Grönvall and Nuša Derenda!

Marc
Marc
4 months ago

Ireland had Karl Broderick who wrote that embarrassing ‘Love?’ entry. How is he part of the jury?

Jofty
Jofty
4 months ago
Reply to  Marc

I think he is well known for panto at home?

Tadhg
Tadhg
4 months ago
Reply to  Jofty

Panto Queen? I can see a bitchfest between him and Twink.

Jofty
Jofty
4 months ago
Reply to  Tadhg

I think Samantha Mumba is also one of that crew. Oddly Twink – of Maxi, Dick and Twink – finished runner up to Dana in 1970 Irish final. Imagine calling an act that these days! I have been saying for years that Mr Pussy would be a great fit for Ireland.

Tadhg
Tadhg
4 months ago
Reply to  Marc

Was just thinking the same, so he wrote wrote one of Ireland’s worst songs and that qualifies him?? I’m Irish and never heard of the other 4.

Jake
Jake
4 months ago

Is Ecstra Nena not the same one who participated in Eurovision 1992?

hip
hip
4 months ago
Reply to  Jake

She is.

Grace
Grace
4 months ago

What are Samantha and Nerea doing among the Spanish Jury? They are two girls from OT with almost no career. Professional Jury should be, as their name suggests, professional.

gurki loko
gurki loko
4 months ago

I like how inclusive some of these are. Like Albania despite having an eagle in the crest, still allows a falcon in and France just asked mother/father of Loic running from teacher-parent meeting to take part in this.

Edward
Edward
4 months ago

Is it really tough to find 5 objective people from all of the nations who can value the quality not some frauds who are easily manipulated by their neighbours or friends who participate.

Edward
Edward
4 months ago

Some familiar faces for Kirkorov too, I guess

voix
voix
4 months ago

French jury giving no points to Italy, Malta’s jury tactical voting, Russia giving 12 points to kirk..to Moldova etc. And people claim that these are professionals. i am sorry, THEY ARE NOT. ebu needs to reconsider the structure of the juries and the people chosen. One hit wonders and tv presenters are not music professionals.

Psmug
Psmug
4 months ago

Can someone explain how are jury’s votes calculated? In Polish jury, e.g. UK has in sum of positions got 59 (12 + 10 + 9 +12 +16) with 0 points, whereas Belgium in sum of positions got 67 (26 + 17 + 17 + 6 + 1) with 3 points.

esc1234
esc1234
4 months ago

a jury of five is easier to be bought by a jury of 10 or 20, ask Kirkorov about that

Alo
Alo
4 months ago
Reply to  esc1234

He might cheated with the televotes too. Semifinal 2 results are very suspicious!it was a disaster on stage but moldova got 7 douz points.

rixxy
rixxy
4 months ago
Reply to  Alo

are you mad? how can one man control 7 separate countries’ televote? do you understand how televote works? Moldova wasn’t even that bad, she gave us a show and it was entertaining, even I voted for her in semi-final 2

Sale
Sale
4 months ago

Expend the Jury from 5 people to 20 people

Edward
Edward
4 months ago
Reply to  Sale

San Marino will be inviting pedestrians then.

Azaad
Azaad
4 months ago
Reply to  Edward

Musical professionals don’t need to famous to have expert opinions. Maybe expand it to 12 like a regular court jury?

Jofty
Jofty
4 months ago
Reply to  Azaad

There would be a few convictions for crimes against music!

Polegend Godgarina
Polegend Godgarina
4 months ago
Reply to  Sale

that’d turn into a mini televote lol

Mqe
Mqe
4 months ago

Honestly is there a way to reform the jury system? I understand that the public vote may be biased towards neighbouring/friendly countries but there really shouldn’t be ANY political voting with the PROFESSIONAL juries. If you are unable to put your national bias aside, you shouldn’t be a jury member. Greece & Cyprus are obviously the biggest offenders but there were more very questionable decisions like two sets of 12 points from the juries for Moldova?? In what world do musical professionals rank that as the best song? I’m not completely opposed to the juries, but something should be done.… Read more »

Eve
Eve
4 months ago
Reply to  Mqe

Russia gave 12 to Moldova and Bulgaria.This must have been stopped somehow!!!!

EPLN Song Contest
EPLN Song Contest
4 months ago
Reply to  Mqe

Russia gave 12 points to Moldova because Philipp Kirkorov was Moldova’s songwriter…

Dina
Dina
4 months ago
Reply to  Mqe

And I’m pretty sure that Katya from duet Riton plays huge part in those 12p from Bulgaria because they have very strong longterm friendship with Kikorov. Plus he came a month ago with Nataliya in Bulgaria to promote Moldova’s entry. Which would have been great if it wasn’t only he and Duet Riton everywhere with him, laughing and chatting for the good old days while Nataliya only sang Sugar in one sole tv show without being interviewed or given the chance to saying anything.
Totally agree with you. No need for jury anymore. Only televote.

Doris
Doris
4 months ago

Do some jurors know that their voting is then make public ? because we could do a name and shame for it I will not do here for decency but some would deserve it. Just go check on the official results by detail how some jurors have voted like Moldova ranked 2nd and Switzerland 25 WTF

Dimos
Dimos
4 months ago
Reply to  Doris

Where did you get the detailed rankings from?

Una
Una
4 months ago
Reply to  Dimos

They are on the official website http://www.eurovision.tv but not very easy to find. I think they are under the tabs of “semi final 1” and “semi final 2” and “grand final”.

Doris
Doris
4 months ago
Reply to  Dimos

Go to eurovision.tv then >grand final results>detailed voting results> choose a country > at the bottom you will have Detailed voting breakdown > view the jury member to see who is A B C D E > and then you can see for example the points awarded by A for each country.

ESC Stan
ESC Stan
4 months ago
Reply to  Doris

1) I agree they could say their opinions later.
2) Naming and shaming is taking the fun and the spirit out of eurovision and that is never ok.
3) I’ve seen so many of your comments and mostly what you do is hate. Take a step back and just enjoy the contest because from what you write it doesn’t sound like you do.

Louka
Louka
4 months ago

Didn’t notice at first but Carola had some kind words towards Amina’s France last evening, 30 years after I found it so nice. Also, she was so funny “I’m a little bit nervous” ahah 🙂

CyxCy
CyxCy
4 months ago
Reply to  Louka

Carola isn’t guilty of anything, she deserved her victory. The injury for us, it’s this “new rule” which decided that Amina was n’t “winner ex eaquo” but “first ex eaquo”. Because honestly what did it change if there were tie winners and the host country was chosen by lot, like before? I think Marie Myriam would have been happy to wear her crown for a shorter period of time and that the French audience would n’t have shied away from the competition for years after that.

Rrjym
Rrjym
4 months ago

Greece and Cyprus exchanging 12 points every single year, even the juries, is the most embarassing thing ever.

ROXELANA
ROXELANA
4 months ago
Reply to  Rrjym

And they are not even ashamed of this

Paul
Paul
4 months ago
Reply to  Rrjym

The audience didn’t even seem annoyed last night!

Dawid
Dawid
4 months ago
Reply to  Paul

They screamed “Greece!” and “Cyprus!” xd

Azaad
Azaad
4 months ago
Reply to  Paul

I think because it’s just between the two of them, doesn’t involve other countries and has become such a tradition we’ve learnt to accept it.

ESC Stan
ESC Stan
4 months ago
Reply to  Rrjym

Honestly I just laugh. It’s on my drinking bingo game. Its all fun.

Branko86
Branko86
4 months ago
Reply to  Rrjym

Remember ESC 2015!

Jofty
Jofty
4 months ago
Reply to  Rrjym

And they roped in an innocent child to deliver it as if that makes it look better!

Kal
Kal
4 months ago
Reply to  Rrjym

Whereas buying your way to the final each and every year only to end up dead last with 0 points is not. Please. There’s a huge elephant in the room (Big5 getting an unfair automatic qualification because they pay more money) and you are talking about the Greece&Cyprus 12pt exchange as if all the other countries (honestly all of them) don’t engage in friendly voting.

ReiRei
ReiRei
4 months ago

Peter Pansky – that made my day. From which country does he originate from? The Neverlands?

Ziv
Ziv
4 months ago

I found Sarah McTernan’s name (Ireland, 2019) on the official website, but she is replaced by Luan Parle here. Was she a jury member?

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Sot
Sot
4 months ago
Reply to  Ziv

No, I don’t think so

dygh
dygh
4 months ago

Belgian jury giving no points to France was probably the biggest crime of the evening

Poiroke
4 months ago
Reply to  dygh

Only Kate Ryan ranked it at 9th place… Others are young musicians in Flanders and Brussels. I am sorry for this disgrace. The Belgians have given them 12 points by televotes…

Branko86
Branko86
4 months ago
Reply to  Poiroke

How you know it was her…? I can only see juror A, B, C, D, E. But no names!

CyxCy
CyxCy
4 months ago
Reply to  dygh

Walloon television and Flemish television alternate responsibility for Eurovision every other year. Unfortunately for us, it was a Flemish year. But even if Belgium had given us twelve points, it would have missed thirteen points to equal Italy. It’s like that, it wasn’t played out much, but it’s certain that there are more fans of rock in the world than fans of French song . On the other hand it’s certain that there are points which are lost in nature. The twelve points for Moldova, sorry, but I don’t understand. But the worst is still what happened to the unfortunate… Read more »

Kim
Kim
4 months ago
Reply to  CyxCy

So many juries voted James Newman last or second to last, really in what universe are these jurors living in? It wasn’t my favourite song but you’ve got to recognise whatever your view on the song that it didn’t deserve to have performed so badly.

WestMids
4 months ago
Reply to  Kim

But that is the point. The song was meh but it was performed so badly. He looked awful , sounded awful and the “choreography” was abysmal

Ramones
Ramones
4 months ago
Reply to  dygh

Why? Because we are neighbours ? Flanders and Wallonie have very different tastes culturally. And you’re basically saying we should prioritise neighbours. C’mon ….

Sot
Sot
4 months ago

Wow, lots of familiar faces there! Kate Ryan, Stig & Elina, Michela, Ira Losco, Birgit, Sopho from Eldrine, even Tijana Bogicevic!

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Polegend Godgarina
Polegend Godgarina
4 months ago

i’m so disappointed in the maltese jury’s blatant strategical voting, the umpteenth proof that the juries are even more biased than the millions of paying televoters

bWesc
bWesc
4 months ago

As a Destiny fan, I totally agree! Do we have any (exact) figures of the amount of televotes this year/some recent years?

Alex
Alex
4 months ago

EBU needs to react. The professional jury can’t be more unprofessional than the audience, and we’re seeing this in some countries every year. This situation damages the credibility of the competition.

Vladimir P.
Vladimir P.
4 months ago
Reply to  Alex

That’s very subjective.

Una
Una
4 months ago

Awww. The names in Estonia’s jury may explain their points: four Eurovision participants. Maybe it wasn’t Uku’s points to Greece and Moldova that lead to only three for Greece and zero for Moldova.

RavensHeart
RavensHeart
4 months ago

Under Croatia, isn’t Luka Nizetic the man who sang Brutalero in 2019?

Ethan1994
Ethan1994
4 months ago

I really think there needs to be more than 5 people in a jury. At the very least, there should be 15 people per jury.

Una
Una
4 months ago
Reply to  Ethan1994

I agree. It would take more time for EBU to count and verify the votes but there should be more money coming in from the “American” song contest.

Balint
Balint
4 months ago

Albania:

Aurel Thellimi – NF 2019

Sokol Marsi – Composer of I’m Alive by Elhaida Dani

Croatia:

Nika Turkovi? – JESC 2004

Luka Nižeti? – NF 2019

Georgia:

Helen Kalandadze – Host of JESC 2017

Norway:

Anna-Lisa Kumoji – NF 2019

Portugal:

Marta Carvalho – Composer of Medo De Sentir by Elisa

Serbia:

Ekstra Nena – Yugoslavia 1992

Ivana Peters – Composer of Goodbye (Shelter) by Sanja Vu?i?

ROXELANA
ROXELANA
4 months ago

“Professional”.. Sorry, but the jury votes should be abolished. Even children would act more professional than them. I’m just so sick of seeing Greece and Cyprus exchanging 12 points every single year. The same applies to the “Nightmare dream”. Moldova’s song which was composed by a Russian-Bulgarian gets 12 points from the Moldovan and Bulgarian “juries”. Serbia giving 12 points to a girl who is half Serbian. Albania giving 12 to a guy who is of Kosovo Albanian origin. Like how on earth can this be fair? When I was younger, I always thought that those jurors are real professional… Read more »

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Sot
Sot
4 months ago
Reply to  ROXELANA

It’s a song contest and that’s not cool, I agree with that, but maybe they are just a little biased with the songs because of those characteristics and that’s all… Maybe the Greeks for example truly like the song of Cyprus and vice versa because they see it as a superior song to the others, or Serbians genuinely like Voilà and with the fact that she’s half Serbian they like it even more automatically, not because of strategies and stuff

Daggu
Daggu
4 months ago
Reply to  Sot

Cyprus and Greece have exchanged 12 points since 1997. You can’t genuinely think that Cyprus’ jury ACTUALLY considers Greeces song to be the best EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOR OVER A DECADE. Especially when they had Demy with This is Love in 2017, and let’s face it – that was FAR from the best among musical proffesionals.

You can make the case for Serbia, but you cannot make the same argument for Cyprus and Greece who have exchanged 12 points for over 20 years.

Sot
Sot
4 months ago
Reply to  Daggu

Well, take 2018 as an example, where in semi1 the Greek jury gave Eleni Foureira 7 points I think, so there are some exceptions

Sal
Sal
4 months ago
Reply to  Sot

Yes, they didn’t give her 12pts for the same reason the Greek broadcaster never asked her to take part in ESC; because she’s Albanian.

Sot
Sot
4 months ago
Reply to  Sal

Well Helena Paparizou is half Swedish and got the only win until today for Greece so idk

Daggu
Daggu
4 months ago
Reply to  Sot

Okay, but why does it matter? They STILL exchanged the points in the final. The exchange still happened. Who cares about the semi finals lol

Daggu
Daggu
4 months ago
Reply to  Daggu

In fact, it’s even worse. How does THE SAME jury go from giving Cyprus 7 points in the semi, to giving them 12 in the final. If anything it should go down as there’s bigger competition now. But in fact, it for *some* reason went way up to 12. The exchange is there, and it’s even worse lol

Whoareyou?
Whoareyou?
4 months ago
Reply to  ROXELANA

I am sick of your discrimination, you keep on noticing the bias in Eastern Europe, and forget when France does not vote for the favorites and other western countries voting only for their neighbours (f.ex. you can check the votes of Scandinavian countries). Sick of your stereotypes and your double standards.

ROXELANA
ROXELANA
4 months ago
Reply to  Whoareyou?

I never said that they don’t do it as well. I just mentioned these as an example. Literally all the juries vote politically.

Onar
Onar
4 months ago
Reply to  ROXELANA

It’s getting tiring to call out only Greece and Cyprus and later say it was just an example. When nordic countries do it, it’s okay. When ex Soviet countries do it, it’s again okay. When ex Yugoslav countries do it, it’s perfectly fine but when Greece and Cyprus dare commit this ‘great offense’, this ‘heinous crime’ of exchanging points, it’s suddenly not okay. Call out everyone cause we’re not your scapegoats. Perhaps you didn’t see the 12 points from North Macedonia to Serbia, the 10 points from Norway to Sweden, 12 points from Spain to France, 2 points from Austria… Read more »

Alex
Alex
4 months ago
Reply to  Onar

I am a Greek living in Sweden, and have watched the contest together with my Swedish and German friends. It’s so interesting to hear them talk about the Greek-Cypriot alliance, but nothing about their way of voting. Just check the votes that Sweden got. 50% of them came by Nordic countries! Yes, Greece and Cyprus make it a bit more obvious, because it is just the two of them, but in absolute values the help that other countries get from their alliances are far more. And when it comes to televote, it’s not like something that we can change. It… Read more »

Alex
Alex
4 months ago
Reply to  Alex

That being said, I also condemn the Greek jury votes in the semi final, where they voted for Moldova. I mean, come on! All in all I think that getting rid of the jurors would be the way to go, since they don’t seem to be able to make them vote independently. Or maybe, make their votes anonymous? I guess it’s the reaction they would get from their national industry that makes them vote in a certain way. So, if we take that out of the equation, it might be better. Or actually, it could also make it much worse.… Read more »

Erik
Erik
4 months ago
Reply to  Onar

12 points are better than any other points.
I’ll dig in the statistics.

Ende
Ende
4 months ago
Reply to  Whoareyou?

Go eat some sweets, you are way too salty right now

Kal
Kal
4 months ago
Reply to  Whoareyou?

I couln’t agree more.

Safiya
Safiya
4 months ago

Y’all know that Rafa? is a host on TVP, now let me introduce you to Norbi who is another host… Who literally had ONE hit song some 15 years ago and it was super cringy. TVP’s approach to Eurovision blows my mind

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Safiya
Safiya
4 months ago
Reply to  Safiya

On the other hand I am happy to see alyona alyona in Ukraine. I would like her at Eurovision

Daggu
Daggu
4 months ago
Reply to  Safiya

TVP is literally the worst.

Branko86
Branko86
4 months ago
Reply to  Safiya

Poland giving San Marino 12 points in jury, just because she sang with Rafal on Polish TV.