Alina Pash

The Eurovision drama in Ukraine keeps on escalating, and Alina Pash’s visit to Crimea in 2015 is still making the news. Ukrainian television is now waiting for official confirmation from the authorities on whether the documents are real.

On Tuesday, Suspilne’s CEO Mykola Chernotytskyi shared a story published by newspaper Pravda on Facebook. The article states that Alina Pash’s documents were not issued by the SBGS [State Border Guard Service of Ukraine].

The broadcaster expects to receive an official response from the authorities on Wednesday by 11:00 Ukrainian time.

Chernotytskyi made quite a bold statement at the end of his post.

“In my opinion, scammers cannot represent Ukraine at Eurovision”.

During a press conference held in Ukraine on Monday afternoon, the broadcaster said that they were now investigating whether the documents they received are authentic. They will not sign a contract securing Alina Pash’s Eurovision participation until their investigation is complete. 

According to Chernotytskyi’s post, an official response should come tomorrow, and thus an announcement on Alina Pash’s selection could come at any time.

Alina Pash asks fans to stop

Alina Pash has not made any comments on the documents issue, but she did share a message on Instagram Stories, addressed to her fans and those of Kalush Orchestra, who won the public vote at Vidbir 2022. In short, she wants people to calm down.

In the story, Alina also agrees that Kalush have the right to know the full results as they have been demanding.

Why is Alina’s visit to Crimea under investigation?

As we told you over the weekend, Alina has been at the centre of a controversy over whether she entered Crimea illegally. 

In the weeks before the selection show, commenters on social media wrote that Alina Pash had previously visited Crimea via a flight from Moscow, thus breaking one of the selection’s rules. 

This rumour emerged after a 2019 interview Alina had with Kateryna Osadcha’s programme Svitske zhittya. There, the Vidbir winner mentioned that she visited in Crimea in 2015. Specifically, she used the word “to fly” when she described her trip to the peninsula.

In an interview to Timur Miroshnychenko last week, Alina stated that she did in fact not fly to into Crimea. Instead, she said that she went there by bus. She noted that the fragment with Kateryna Osadcha was taken out of context. She added that she did not go to Crimea for a performance but for a private affair. Suspilne subsequently received physical proof from Alina that she indeed passed the land border. 

What do you make of this story? Will Alina Pash make it to Turin in the end? Sound off in the comment sections below!

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lili
4 months ago

You mean, Ukraine throws out a singer because she visited Crimea seven years ago when she was a youngster of 21 years? Great goodness, something wrong with her Aryan blood purity or what? By the way, when do you guys have your next official book burning?

ete sech
ete sech
4 months ago

I think Ukraine should go NQ this year for all of this sh*tshow

AlexK
AlexK
4 months ago

Update: Alina has just confirmed that her manager rigged the documents to speed things up, she’s super angry at him, and is going to fire him. But she says she’s got the proper official document and it’s been delivered to Suspilne.
Dramadrama.

AlexK
AlexK
4 months ago
Reply to  AlexK

Well, anyway, she’s been initially promoted by Ivan Dorn whose moral ambiguity with regards to the Ukraine-Russia relations is as famous as his talent. So no surprises about the way she chooses her environment and the people to work with.

AlexK
AlexK
4 months ago
Reply to  AlexK

And turns out, this official document doesn’t say either “yes” or “no”…

Agent 007
Agent 007
4 months ago

Kalush has similar photos from Red square Moscow, and he travelled to Crimea too. So his participation in Eurovision is also not easy.

Jessie
Jessie
4 months ago
Reply to  Agent 007

Send Jendrik for peace

Last edited 4 months ago by Jessie
Magistr
Magistr
4 months ago
Reply to  Jessie

Ukraine cannot send german, germans are the same as moscowites for us

Aalzen
Aalzen
4 months ago
Reply to  Magistr

Why?

Tzs
Tzs
4 months ago
Reply to  Jessie

Dolly Style

Ffs
Ffs
4 months ago

She creeps me out..

TheDrMistery
TheDrMistery
4 months ago

Shadows of forged documents 😉

Marios
Marios
4 months ago

They should stay away from the contest, it’s obvious that they are a country in such a crisis that can’t deliver the simplest things anymore. They have much more serious situations to handle now.

Magistr
Magistr
4 months ago
Reply to  Marios

Suspilne is TV network, its not their duty to stop army of moscowites.

voix
voix
4 months ago
Reply to  Magistr

army of moscowites singing about a united ukraine and claiming that crimea is ukrainian? You are part of the problem,clown

Magistr
Magistr
4 months ago
Reply to  voix

Actually, she is not singing about united Ukraine, text is rather degrading for Ukrainians + that awful English rap part …

Last edited 4 months ago by Magistr
Samo
Samo
4 months ago
Reply to  Marios

Judging by their 100% qualification rate (although it may get broken this year) it’s pretty obvious they can deliver great entries to Eurovision. No need for them to stay away from the contest.

Fast Food Music Lover
Fast Food Music Lover
4 months ago

If Suspilne’s CEO already labelled Alina Pash as a scammer, then it’s safe to say she won’t be representating Ukraine anymore regardless of how the results from authorities turn out to be.

Karl
Karl
4 months ago

What is Suspilne? The article doesn’t explain what it is.

James
James
4 months ago
Reply to  Karl

It’s the alternate name for UA:PBC, similar to how Israel’s IPBC labels itself as simply KAN.

Karl
Karl
4 months ago
Reply to  James

Suspilne is pretty sus, if you ask me.

Magistr
Magistr
4 months ago
Reply to  Karl

what means “sus” for you?

ete sech
ete sech
4 months ago
Reply to  Magistr

“sus” means suspicious. It’s a common expression used in Among Us.

Pearli
Pearli
4 months ago

Jeez, just withdraw already.

brunowskii
brunowskii
4 months ago

Just send Go_A again and everybody will be happy…..

Vladimir P.
Vladimir P.
4 months ago

They – the organizer and broadcaster – have lost their mind

Maclaren
Maclaren
4 months ago

Gosh, getting tired of this psychopath broadcaster and all the flipping drama. It would be utterly entertaining if the winner is disqualified (again), then other contestants refuse to go (again), and the broadcaster is a laughing stock (again, again, and again). Popcorn!

Serena00
Serena00
4 months ago
Reply to  Maclaren

I think Kalush will go to the contest happily

Shuma
Shuma
4 months ago

I love Ukraine, love the Ukrainian people, the culture, and support them 110% in this current Russia situation.

But my god the national broadcaster is a sh . it show. BBC does an excellent job of embarrassing Britain time and time again, but NTU, UAPBC, Suspilne (can’t even stick to 1 name) are on a whole other level.

We’ll organise a national final, pick a winner, and then spend the next few days and weeks tearing strips out of the winner in every way possible.

At least the BBC just ignore their artists.

Xxx
Xxx
4 months ago

Laws are laws. Lock her up!

Aalzen
Aalzen
4 months ago
Reply to  Xxx

Psychopath

Aalzen
Aalzen
4 months ago
Reply to  Aalzen

You are a psycho too.

Xxx
Xxx
4 months ago
Reply to  Aalzen

You can join her, gworl.

Last edited 4 months ago by Xxx
Jack
Jack
4 months ago

If you people think that Ukraine has problems now because of the tension with Russia, you should do some research as what they did in 2009 2010 and 2011. Ukraine always had drama and corruption in the national finals regardless of the war. They never learn and the tension with Russia is simply an excuse, they had rigged national finals for years

Jesper Hjellnes
Jesper Hjellnes
4 months ago
Reply to  Jack

Yeah in 2010 they changed their selected artist one week before the deadline, organized a new national final in a hurry, only to end with the new winner song to be withdrawn due to plagiarism

escfan20398
escfan20398
4 months ago

LMFAO

WeAreWhitChanel
WeAreWhitChanel
4 months ago

Can someone tell me if tomorrow the Ukranian TV will comfirm the participation or non-participation of Alina, please?

And another more thing, will she go to the jail?

Tzs
Tzs
4 months ago

I think they will participate but with different artist or they will withdrawn – Alina is out for 80%

Karl
Karl
4 months ago

Hi Alina. Hi A-Pash. Welcome to Turin. So, I have uncomfortable question to you:

Your travel document… is fake?

TheDrMistery
TheDrMistery
4 months ago
Reply to  Karl

Fake of course.

Tzs
Tzs
4 months ago

Maruv: Wanna know my Secret?
Alina: Jamala, of cource.
UABroadcaster: Bang!

🙁

Jonkonfui
Jonkonfui
4 months ago

I dont care about Vibnir or whatever and dont know what or who is Kamish. I am trying to make sense of this mess and know what is it all about and it seems not even Ukranians know.
Supposedly the problem is whether she crossed the border by the right or wrong place and if this is the case I cannot understand why does the Ukranian broadcaster investigation take so long. Cant they just go to the “right border” and enter ‘Alina whatever’ and see if she is registered there?

Maria
Maria
4 months ago
Reply to  Jonkonfui

No, because they are not the police. They cannot get the private information.

Samo
Samo
4 months ago
Reply to  Jonkonfui

No, a broadcaster can’t access personal data from the police.

Ellen
Ellen
4 months ago

So sad for her. Hope she won’t get Maruv-ed and fly to Torino.

Tzs
Tzs
4 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Bang!

Sandra
Sandra
4 months ago
Reply to  Tzs

I am not sad for her. She should not have lied if she knew about breaking selection rules and really faked the documents

Magistr
Magistr
4 months ago

ESC fans are so tired from Vidbir, that’s why they post 100-200 comments under news about Vidbir scandals. “Im so tired, so tired. Please, tell me: Does Alina go to prison? or to ESC? or withdrawal?”

Jake
Jake
4 months ago

Who falsifies documents to sing on a tv show?!?

yannis
yannis
4 months ago

This is so ridiculous! It is like trying to establish if she is Ukrainian enough!!!

Babes
Babes
4 months ago

Suspline are clowns! Keep politics out of the contest! Ffs!

Ana
Ana
4 months ago

Wiwi should pay fees to Suspilne for creating so much drama that they can write like 10 articles in 2 days about it.

wrrgegg
wrrgegg
4 months ago

lmaoooo

Last edited 4 months ago by wrrgegg
MartyMcCu
MartyMcCu
4 months ago

At least what the EBU can say or do is add a clause in the criteria for participation which states no one should put the competitions reputation into disrepute at the expense of their own internal procedures.

Last edited 4 months ago by MartyMcCu
Samo
Samo
4 months ago
Reply to  MartyMcCu

National selections are not part of the ESC.

Whisker
Whisker
4 months ago

Uncomfortable enough?

Jimmy
Jimmy
4 months ago

This whole matter should be handled much more carefully and privately. Allowing all of this drama to be made so public only serves to tarnish both Alina and any other entrant who may replace her. Alina has been awarded the privilege of representing Ukraine so I hope she can still do that. Either way, I hope this controversy is resolved as speedily as possible and learnt from for next year.

Jimmy
Jimmy
4 months ago
Reply to  Jimmy

It is entirely wrong to award someone the privilege of representing their country and then allow them to be humiliated, nationally and internationally. For this to be happening a second time is disastrous.

Jonkonfui
Jonkonfui
4 months ago
Reply to  Jimmy

And what if she lied? I mean if the documents are false, she knew they were false.

Maria
Maria
4 months ago
Reply to  Jimmy

I totally agree with you. But it seems to me that this is being made public due to the fact that it was the Ukrainian viewers of the selection who began to doubt the results, as well as the whole situation with Russia and Crimea.

Jonkonfui
Jonkonfui
4 months ago
Reply to  Jimmy

Well after witnessing all this circus I would not call representing Ukraine a ‘privilege’.

Heartbeater
Heartbeater
4 months ago

The only thing I see with this is that if Alina Pash does not go to Eurovision unlike the Maruv situation where every other artist declined the offer, in support of Maruv kalush will probably take the offer

Ana
Ana
4 months ago
Reply to  Heartbeater

The situation with Maruv was very different. She was not accused of anything but she was the one who was accusing the broadcaster for making an unfair contract. It was her choice not to sign it. Plus, Maruv was the winner of the televote, she had the back of the public, unlike Alina who came second (but with the mess with the televoting results she might have been even in lower position, well never know).

Tzs
Tzs
4 months ago
Reply to  Ana

Ukrainian broadcastwe always make a noise (shum) and mess ( i put – in your comment) WHy THEY INVITED MARUV and ALINA to compete to the National selection?!?!? If they knew it??? Why the did not have internal selection like other countries??? Its only a game to catch “attention a little care” … I used ti like Ukraine tho ..

Ana
Ana
4 months ago
Reply to  Tzs

They knew what? That Maruv will decide not to sign a contract? They don’t see into the future. Also, Maruv could anticipate that in order to represent Ukraine she would have to give up on her Russian gigs for a while, that’s not a new rule or a new thing. I always suspected that she didn’t really want to go to Eurovision but did want to participate in Vidbir to get more exposure. Vidbir is very popular and artists that participate get a very nice exposure there.

Tzs
Tzs
4 months ago
Reply to  Ana

Oh please so bc she had concert in Russia she was bad and not deserved to represent Ukraine – we all know having Concert in an abroad – is the way to gain money …. U only believed one source but u can not see others sides …. They knew she have converts there, they knew she might win, same with Alina if she got problems they could pick internally like Russia or Azerbaijan are doing … or do not invite her…. Its really annoying to hear, see all over again same messy fact and information. I love Ukraine, i… Read more »

Samo
Samo
4 months ago
Reply to  Tzs

No one has problems with participants having concerts abroad, most Ukrainian acts in the last decade performed in Russia at one point or another. The issue is illegal entry into Ukraine.

Maria
Maria
4 months ago
Reply to  Tzs

If the public did not doubt Alina and her trips to Russia, she would simply go to Italy and none of this would have happened. I don’t think broadcasters do it on purpose. Most likely, they are simply poorly organized.

Tzs
Tzs
4 months ago
Reply to  Maria

Well then if they knew (broadcaster -they should have invited someone else) or did internally selection to save money and time

AlexK
AlexK
4 months ago
Reply to  Ana

Maruv was scrutinized with questions about her attitude to Russia during the selection shows multiple times. It seemed like they’ve deliberately drawn up such a contract for her, so that she would rather reject it.

Sabrina
Sabrina
4 months ago

Btw where was jamala during the show with her uncomfortable questiones then ? she probably thought not again

Sabrina
Sabrina
4 months ago

Wasn’t this kinda “the reason” Ukraine didn’t wanted to send maruv well if she sends her then can they send maruv in 2023 then? ?

Ant
Ant
4 months ago
Reply to  Sabrina

No, Maruv was (and still is) giving concerts in Russia and refused to sign an agreement to refrain from doing that until the end of the Eurovision Grand Final. Quite different

esc_ua_fan
esc_ua_fan
4 months ago
Reply to  Sabrina

Maruv’s label is russian and they didnt even know she was participating in vidbir. She was not allowed to give song’s rights to the broadcaster. So, she couldnt participate in the first place, but made up the drama anyway

Last edited 4 months ago by esc_ua_fan
Guest2022
Guest2022
4 months ago

It looks perfect for all fans of great music. We will see amazing Kalush Orchestra in Turin instead of crazy chaos “song” by Alina.

wrrgegg
wrrgegg
4 months ago
Reply to  Guest2022

imo

MAMO MAMO STEFANIA

and generally thatt song is a lot messier

alina’s somg at least has a good purpose and meaning

Aalzen
Aalzen
4 months ago
Reply to  Guest2022

No thank you, zero points.

dtuk
dtuk
4 months ago

Im tired of Ukraine and all these uncomfortable questions , next

Magistr
Magistr
4 months ago
Reply to  dtuk

dont pretend pls

XOD
XOD
4 months ago

Not to be that person, but even if the docs turn to be real Alina should not represent them. I cannot imagine myself getting shamed and humiliated then act like nothing happened.

WannaEatMySpaghetti
WannaEatMySpaghetti
4 months ago
Reply to  XOD

Completely agree with you. That kind of behaviour is really toxic and dangerous for the artists and theur art. I love Ukraine in the contest but at this moment I just went them out of Eurovision. And sadly I feel like this for 2 or 3 other countries.

Samo
Samo
4 months ago
Reply to  XOD

No one is shamed or humiliated. If documents turn out to be real, there won’t be any issue.

Im so fab
Im so fab
4 months ago

This picture of Aline is phaqing hilarious. Thank you for putting it in every Ukraine article and lightening up the atmosphere.

Alex
Alex
4 months ago

Should Ukraine have dealt with these document issues before the competition to reduce the amount of controversy? Absolutely. But if it does turn out that Alina did forge the document, should she be disqualified? Yes. It isn’t fair to the other contestants (and those who didn’t make the shortlist in the NF) that she is able to win by breaking the laws.

Brötchen
Brötchen
4 months ago
Reply to  Alex

I mean, would you automatically assume every document you receive is fake? They asked for them, they got them and they looked legit so they thought it’s fine. They only got the hint that they are fake after the show.
And you have to remember: We are talking about a broadcaster here not a private investigation firm or something. Their job is to make good TV, not investigate crimes.

Iain
Iain
4 months ago
Reply to  Alex

No, she wouldn’t even if she forged it. She didn’t want backlash by prrimitive officials who put stupid law that doesn’t make sense.

Mexo
Mexo
4 months ago
Reply to  Alex

She won by getting the most points, not by going to Crimea. Ukraine should stop behaving like this.

lol
lol
4 months ago

the more i listen to alinas song the more i fall in love with it. i really want her to go to eurovision but have a weird feeling we will be getting bad news tomorrow. really hope everything works out for her

Last edited 4 months ago by lol
esc1234
esc1234
4 months ago

She is singing about ancestors and unity while her own country sabotages her. Clearly Ukraine has issues but they also create the problems themselves.

Jonkonfui
Jonkonfui
4 months ago
Reply to  esc1234

You can look at this from a different angle: she is singing about her country ancestors and at same time not abiding to the laws of the same country those ancestors are from. If the documents are false, she knew if she knew she is going against the interest of the same country where those ancestors she seems to care so much about are from.

Shuckle26
Shuckle26
4 months ago

It’s a shame if Alina doesn’t end up going because I really love her song, kalush I really didn’t like at all, he sounded really flat in the vidbir performance and I’m afraid if they were to go Ukraine would drop from my current 3rd place to near the bottom (that’s reserved for Moldova, Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania and soon to be Norway if a certain banana song is chosen)

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
4 months ago

After the 2019 Maruv fiasco, you would think the broadcaster would do a better job vetting their national final performers first to make sure they don’t have any problematic Crimea traveling history, but I wonder if they wanted Alina so much They didn’t do due diligence on her history until it blew up in their face. And I thought the Crimea travel laws applied more to foreigners, not Ukrainian citizens. God what a mess.

KuhKatz
KuhKatz
4 months ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

They surely didnt have any problems with Go_A in 2020 and were one of the first countries, to confirm them for 2021. it‘s just a shame, I thought they were going in the right direction just to blow it all up with this sh*t.

Agent 007
Agent 007
4 months ago

Can anyone explain what’s stopping the broadcaster from signing a contract with her? If the police has questions to her, it’s the police’ business. It’s as if you had a debt to the bank and the broadcaster wouldn’t allow you to take part in a contest (but would allow you to take part in the selection). She can take part in the competition, return and go under investigation. At least that would’ve been logical.

Hermès
Hermès
4 months ago
Reply to  Agent 007

Because it’s in the selection rules that any artist wishing to represent Ukraine should have followed Ukraine’s rules on visits to Russia and Crimea – specifically to avoid another Maruv situation. And suspilne being the idiots they are asked the artists to provide proof instead of doing the work themselves. They were 8 contestants for fack’s sake!

MariAkki
MariAkki
4 months ago
Reply to  Agent 007

If your country is almost at war, you don’t want a representative who has broken a law connected to this very painful situation. It would feel dishonest towards the Ukranian people.
Agree politics should stay out of Eurovision, but I also understand why people would feel hurt about this.

Maria
Maria
4 months ago
Reply to  Agent 007

They do not sign the contract, because if she traveled across Russian borders and performed in Crimea, then this is a direct violation of the rules for taking part in the selection. However, if it turns out that the documents she provided are fake, then she will also have problems with the police.

Agent 007
Agent 007
4 months ago
Reply to  Maria

that’s surreal

Lex
Lex
4 months ago

Yeah, we can say goodbye to Alina.

Joe
Joe
4 months ago

I think it’ll all work out for Alina in the end. At least I hope.

Joe
Joe
4 months ago
Reply to  Joe

Screw it. If this is what I get for trying to be positive in this comments section, I’m getting outta here. Later, gang.

hhhhurricane
hhhhurricane
4 months ago
Reply to  Joe

?

Giolo
Giolo
4 months ago
Reply to  Joe

I really hope so, why do you think she will go anyway? I am really nervous about her future parricipation, life and career

Jimmy
Jimmy
4 months ago
Reply to  Joe

I really hope so too. It is entirely wrong to award someone the privilege of representing their country and then allow them to be humiliated, nationally and internationally. For this to be happening a second time is disastrous.

Edward
Edward
4 months ago

Smh

Last edited 4 months ago by Edward
Eurovision fan
Eurovision fan
4 months ago

If they disqualify her I’m not so sure if they will participate at all, but something tells me the second place holder will accept to go because this is not exactly the same situation as with Maruv. I don’t know, she shouldn’t have forged the documents.

Magistr
Magistr
4 months ago
Reply to  Eurovision fan

Alina and Kalush hate each other, so Kalush will accept the proposition.

Liv
Liv
4 months ago
Reply to  Magistr

Why do they hate each other?

Aura
Aura
4 months ago
Reply to  Liv

Sometime before the national selection Alina accused Kalush of plagiarism of her song on Instag ram. I remember that she was furious. Kalush, on the other hand, confirmed that the melodies were similar and promised to investigate the case.

Maria
Maria
4 months ago
Reply to  Magistr

I don’t think they hate each other, they’re just competitors in the selection. And most likely they will agree, as they have already argued with the organizers for the results.

Jyris happiness
Jyris happiness
4 months ago
Reply to  Magistr

They dont hate each other. Kalush said in his Instagram hes completely fine with Alina, he thinks she has great song. Alina also thinks Kalushs performance was good

Jacob Teglbjærg
4 months ago
Reply to  Eurovision fan

Then who caresand? Goodbye Ukraine. Come back when you ve grown up. They only want sympathy and play theoff vicim card. Boohoo, we dont want to play with them. They are stupid. Childidh behaviour.

ESCFanGA
ESCFanGA
4 months ago

The EBU needs to get involved in this situation and prevent broadcasters or other individuals from trying to politicize the contest. Given that the Ukrainian broadcaster is part of the EBU, the EBU should perhaps place some sort of sanction/penalty on the Ukrainian broadcaster in order to send a message that such scenarios like what is happening now are unacceptable. Also this is not the first time something like this has happened in Ukraine and the fact that the EBU isn’t doing anything is both frustrating and baffling.

MartyMcCu
MartyMcCu
4 months ago
Reply to  ESCFanGA

The EBU isn’t a governing or ruling body, its a UNION, which Ukraine is part of and an equal member of. Ukraine’s broadcaster is a member of this organisation so that there is a standardisation and consistency in broadcasting formalities.The EBU already set out rules for the contest , in which Ukraine is supposed to abide by. They have no power to punish Ukraine for passive or hidden acts of politicisation. To you and me its political , but officially interpreting it on paper its not. The EBU just cant do anything which can be interpreted as something different. No… Read more »

Jacob Teglbjærg
4 months ago
Reply to  MartyMcCu

In 2010, Ukraine was allowed to select a new song way after deadline, as the selected song had been released before. Why? When they were hosts the first time they sang about their revolution. None of that had anything to do with Russia at all. Still they were allowed to participate. For 12 years they have not abided to the rules. About rimes they get kicked out until they abide to the rules

Bella
Bella
4 months ago
Reply to  ESCFanGA

Agreed with everything MartyMcCu just said. If the EBU were to get involved in national song selection, you would see comments like “Who the hell do they think they are to tell us which song my country should pick?”

Samo
Samo
4 months ago
Reply to  ESCFanGA

National selections aren’t part of ESC, nor are they related to the EBU in any way. They are domestic shows and broadcaster can do anything they want in the process, as far as EBU is concerned.

Karl
Karl
4 months ago

Can the sequel to Eurovision Fire Saga be about a Ukranian national final winner forging documents and a juror who asks uncomfortable questions?

Agent 007
Agent 007
4 months ago
Reply to  Karl

ROFL