You know her as the “Euphoria” songstress who brought Sweden a landslide victory at Eurovision 2012. Now, a decade later, the Eurovision legend looks set for a comeback. Sources close to the show say Loreen is throwing her hat in the ring at Melodifestivalen 2023.

The 10-time ESC250 champion is taking another shot at the Swedish Eurovision selection show after a “persuasion campaign”, Aftonbladet reports. 

The source reports Loreen is joining forces with the songwriting team behind her winning track “Euphoria”. 

Loreen rumoured for Melodifestivalen 2023 lineup

Lorine “Loreen” Talhaoui, 39, is making her long awaited return to the Mello stage. That’s what sources at the Swedish rumour mill Aftonbladet have reported.

Aftonbladet has a good track record when it comes to Melodifestivalen predictions. In 2021, sources correctly identified 27 out of 28 artists competing in Sweden’s Eurovision selection show. 

If sources are to be believed, Loreen is bidding to represent her country at Eurovision 2023 in Liverpool.

A source at the Swedish newspaper said: “Yes, she will be there. She waited for a long time, but loves the song.”

The tea-spiller added: “She has somewhat reluctantly allowed herself to be convinced. Once she tried singing it, everything felt right.”

Loreen will allegedly return to Melfest with a song penned by Thomas G:son and Peter Boström — the team behind “Euphoria”. Additionally, Jimmy “Joker” Thornfeldt — who wrote Tusse’s “Voices” — is allegedly involved in Loreen’s entry. 

But another informant said Loreen’s participation isn’t set in stone just yet. 

The Aftonbladet informant said: “She usually doesn’t make up her mind until the last moment. The definitive announcement may take until the days before the press conference this time as well.”

The official list of participants is expected to revealed in late November.

Loreen at Eurovision

Loreen won Melodifestivalen 2012 and went on to represent Sweden in Baku with her Europop anthem “Euphoria”. She picked up a staggering 372 points, winning the competition and earning Sweden its fifth song contest gold medal.

“Euphoria” has since gone on to become a piece of Eurovision history. The track has topped the ESC250 every year since her victory, with fans voting her as the best Eurovision song ever for 10 years on the trot. 

Loreen gave Mello another shot in 2017 with song “Statements”. She made it through to the Andra Chansen round, but was knocked out by Anton Hagman.

What do you think? Would you like to see Loreen at Melodifestivalen 2023? Sound off in the comments. 

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Séamus Mór
Séamus Mór
10 days ago

I don’t know, sometimes it’s better to maybe just sit on your laurels, Euphoria was one of the best winners in the last 20 years and it would be hard to to top. Over the last decade or so we’ve seen former winners like Niamh Kavanagh, Karola, Charlotte Perrelli, Dana International and Alexander Rybak all come back and not exactly set the world alight with their songs.

Tomas
Tomas
13 days ago

Nordman, Loulou Lamotte, Wiktoria Johansson, Marcus & Martinus, Emil Henrohn, Theoz, Melanie Wehbe “Smash into pieces”, Panetoz, Tennessee Tears, Elov & Beny, Paul Rey,Maris Sur Ida-Lova, Victor Crone, Loreen, Eva Rydberg & Ewa Roos, Axel Schylström, Laurell Barker Tone Sekelius, Kiana Blanckert, Rejhan Bellani I am shock actually about those artists – it seems like interesting line up. I was expecting – The Mamas(Loulou), Wiktoria, Theoz, Tone, Panetoz, Paul Rey only It seems like Paul Rey is new Anna Bergendahl – like I am tired of him 4y in a row (last year as a song writer for Cazzi) 6… Read more »

Tomas
Tomas
14 days ago

Nordman, Loulou Lamotte, Wiktoria Johansson, Marcus & Martinus, Emil Henrohn, Theoz, Melanie Wehbe “Smash into pieces”, Panetoz, Tennessee Tears, Elov & Beny, Paul Rey,Maris Sur Ida-Lova, Victor Crone, Loreen, Eva Rydberg & Ewa Roos, Axel Schylström, Laurell Barker Tone Sekelius, Kiana Blanckert, Rejhan Bellani Expectedly, SVT will announce the complete the artist lineup for Melodifestivalen 2023 during digital press conferences on November 29 and 30. I am shock actually about those artists – it seems like interesting line up. I was expecting – The Mamas(Loulou), Wiktoria, Theoz, Tone, Panetoz, Paul Rey only It seems like Paul Rey is new Anna… Read more »

Una
Una
14 days ago

I’ve read elsewhere that Norway have 21 artists and songs selected for MGP 2023 to be revealed next year!! *YUM*!!!

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  Una

I like that national final. Let’s hope for some good stuff.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago

This is a little off topic, but Malta has finally announced its list of 40 semi finalists for MESC 2023.

Colin
Colin
14 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

As I suspected, many of the recurring names are back, and I’m here for it. Aidan, Jessika, Fabrizio Faniello, Brooke Borg, Dominic Cini, Giada, Matt Blxck, Mark Anthony Bartolo, Maxine Pace, and Francesca Sciberras are just some of the names returning to the contest. Many of them had some songs I still listen to, so I can’t say that I don’t have good expectations. But as long as the lyrical prowess of the show is on pair with their selections of 2018 and onwards, there’s a good reason to hold reservations as well. As always hoping for the best, but… Read more »

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  Colin

I Wonder If it’s the same aiden who competed with ritmu last year or if it’s another singer with the same name. There are two artists named Stefan competing at the same time at MESC 2023 (Not to be confused with Estonia’s Stefan). there are actually three former eurovision artists in this line up—Fabrizio Faniello (2001 and 2006) and two Junior Eurovision alumni, Francesca Scibberas (Junior Eurovision 2009) and Eliana Gomez Blanco (Junior Eurovision 2019). I was actually Surprised to see Eliana on the list Because I felt she did not deserve to be last place At Junior Eurovision. Now… Read more »

Colin
Colin
14 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

I assume that ”Aidan” is Aidan Cassar, that ”Dominic” is Dominic Dini, that ”Brooke” is Brooke Borg, and that ”Giada” is the same Giada who sung Revalacion. As it’s a small pool of rotating artists in MESC, I would be surprised if I’m wrong, even if it’s possible that I am. As with Melfest (and several other selections) we have some familiar names, but I’m happy to see those artists around. These people are obviously the ones with the biggest desire to represent their country, and they are patient to try again. I can respect that. Not all artists want… Read more »

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  Colin

With the selection that huge with 40 songs, there’s going to be inevitably a lot of coal among the diamonds.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

Unless they’re in the skies? Seriously though, Fair point. A larger national final has a higher chance of having a lot of filler entries at best and a lower quality overall. But having a small national final isn’t always a guarantee of higher quality too— While Finland has been killing it with a Small number of mostly great songs, Denmark has only a couple of decent songs at best in their 8 song final. It really all depends on what we get. I am also not making any judgments about songs until they are actually released. On a sidebar, I… Read more »

Colin
Colin
14 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

I expect a lot of coal. But Maltese coal is usually a lot of fun! While Diamond is not a given, sometimes the best songs come from weakest selections. Pabandom iš naujo of 2021 is the best example – Most of these songs were ”meh” at best, but Gebrasy and The Roop (and also kinda Gabrielius Vagelis) were outstanding.

Jonas
Jonas
14 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Carbon footprint?

Jonas
Jonas
14 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

The canary is dead.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Oh yes, I agree with you. Without Gebrasy and the Roop, PIN in 2021 was basically garbage in my opinion. As I posted before, I do find it interesting that PIN 2023 will actually be five shows, which could potentially cut down the filler and raise up the quality level with fewer songs. I’m trying to figure out how many songs will be competing in total with two heats, two semi finals, and a final. I don’t think there will be 36 because then it will be 18 songs per heat and that’s too many songs with just two heats.… Read more »

Colin
Colin
14 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

I would love to see a country which hasn’t done that before to crack top five. Lithuania, San Marino, Czech Republic, and Slovenia are those participating who are eligible, if I’m not mistaken.

Or a country which didn’t have many good results in the last few years, such as Latvia, Croatia, Germany, Ireland, or Georgia. It depends on the songs, of course.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  Colin

I concur. I really want a first time winner next year

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Coal is useful.

Una
Una
14 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Gebrasy <3 Gabrelius Vagelis <3

Colin
Colin
14 days ago
Reply to  Una

Two amazing singers. I’d be delighted to see the two representing Lithuania in the near future, given the right songs. 🙂

Una
Una
14 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

No songwriters though. A big chunk of fun is completely missing!!

Karl
Karl
15 days ago

Whatever her decision is, I hope she’s aware that Ukraine will win Eurovision 2023 no matter what. Just keep that in mind.

Colin
Colin
14 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Unless they have a masterpiece, no, they won’t. But unless they have a dumpster fire, they’ll end-up in top 10 (no way that most juries won’t give them a point or two).

  • Perhaps I’m wrong, but that’s my prediction.
Vivian
Vivian
14 days ago
Reply to  Karl

It’s been half a year. Seriously, get over it. Televoting is what gave Ukraine the win. I for one think the public isn’t gonna boost Ukraine as much as it did in Turin.

Karl
Karl
14 days ago
Reply to  Vivian

They will boost Ukraine again and deliver them a win, but you can keep believing otherwise.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Maybe, but The jury might not be so generous next time So the televote won’t be enough to give Ukraine another victory so soon. Or Ukraine might send a weaker song on purpose to prevent a back to back win Because wouldn’t it be frustrating to win and still not be able to host?

tom
tom
14 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

Agree Ukraine needs to send internally Alina ft Maruv – Shadows of forgotten Sirens – Lets do this!

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
15 days ago

I was wondering how many names have been put forward by Aftonbladet For melfest 2023 and I actually made a tally based on what’s been reported here and elsewhere. So far I think it’s 16 names so here they are as Of now: Eva Rydberg & Ewa Roos Axel Schlyström Laurell Barker Loreen Maria Sur Ida-Lova Victor Crone Panetoz Smash Into Pieces Melanie Wehbe Nordman  Wiktoria  Loulou Lamotte Marcus & Martinus Emil Henrohn Theoz I don’t know if more names will be pushed forward or if all of these names will be on the final lineup, but we will see… Read more »

Una
Una
15 days ago

I’ve read elsewhere that the songs of Ukraine – certainly the most epic selection of the 2023 season – will be released on 1 December!!! Happy holidays!!

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
15 days ago
Reply to  Una

i’m also reserving judgment until the songs are out. That is where we will know if The songs are good. Don’t forget that no matter what song is picked oil quality, Ukraine is already in the final.

Una
Una
15 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

Ukraine have never missed the final so far and their acts are always out of the box. And yes, they’ve won three times already.

Una
Una
15 days ago
Reply to  Una

They take Eurovision seriously and they’ve been accused of winning unfairly in 2022. And the current situation in the country requires a proportional response.
And they’re gonna hold the show in underground in a metro station. A second after Romania’s salt mine semi a few years ago but extraordinary nonetheless.

Una
Una
15 days ago
Reply to  Una

Yes it is.

Jonas
Jonas
15 days ago
Reply to  Una

It stopped being a salt mine about ninety years ago. Now it’s just for tourists, in Transylvania. It was not fun, the winner did not even qualify in Lisbon. Sad, very sad.

Una
Una
14 days ago
Reply to  Una

It looked quite nice. It was the most interesting place for a Eurovision show that I know of but that was under normal circumstances in times of p-e-a-c-e.

Cocooo
Cocooo
15 days ago

According to Aftonbladet, Laurell Barker is rumoured to compete as an artist. Also Eva & Ewa is coming back with a similar song to ‘Rena rama ding dong’.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
15 days ago
Reply to  Cocooo

How many artist names has Aftonbladet thrown out as possible melfest 2023 contestants? I don’t think wiwi has covered them all. Interesting that Laurell Barker is possibly competing as a singer herself because she’s usually a songwriter for many eurovision and national final songs behind the scenes. Is she even Swedish herself, or a non-Swede resident? I guess we will find out about the final lineup by the end of the month.

Jonas
Jonas
15 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

She’s Canadian.

Denis
Denis
15 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

She is Canadian but lives in Malmö since a few years back. Had a pretty big hit here with ” Habit”. Its OK. Find it if you havent

Jonas
Jonas
15 days ago
Reply to  Denis

Her instagram says CA, GB, and a side of SE.

Denis
Denis
15 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Her base is however in Malmö. She is registered there now. And her daughter was born there. She moved here due to love..

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  Denis

I wonder what are the chances of a non-Swedish singer Winning melfest are? Probably very low, if not zero. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Denis
Denis
14 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

You are right. Chances that a non- Swedish resident wins are low because why would Swedes want a non- Swede to represnt?
Now unfortunately some will claim Tusse was not Swedish and won. But Tusse has citizenship and that is the only way someone is Swedish. Not sure if Ms Barker has citizenship yet

Jonas
Jonas
14 days ago
Reply to  Denis

Ashley Haynes from the Mamas won only two years ago, she’s American. If Laurell teamed up with the right people she could probably do it.

Denis
Denis
14 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

yes, but she was part of a group. You can’t vote for a group and say “we only want one of the members”..
No solo artists who hasn¨t had citizenship has won or is likely to win, unless they have a HUGE song!

Jonas
Jonas
14 days ago
Reply to  Denis

Probably not. If Laurell gets citizenship before March, anything could happen.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  Denis

Yes, I haven’t forgotten about tusse. I know he was born outside Sweden, but he was a citizen by the time of his Melfest victory. I wonder how many artists won melfest on their first go. It seems very difficult to do.

Now I’m aspire to do a study of my own. How many Eurovision artists have represented countries that aren’t their birthplaces/home countries. Countless, I bet, especially if you look at Luxenbourg, Monaco, and San Marino, which are more likely to have artists from France, and Italy represent those small nations.

Jonas
Jonas
14 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

Apart from those countries, I think Céline Dion is the only winner. Half of Secret Garden too.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
14 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

katrina of Katrina and the waves is actually American. Vicky Leandros was a Greek singer who represented Luxenberg twice and actually won for them on her second go. As I mentioned about those three little countries, it’s easier to list the singers who actually are from those Countries than than the ones they outsourced. In fact, Monaco did not have a single singer actually from Monaco representing them In their entire history

Jonas
Jonas
13 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

Katrina is American, but has lived in the UK for years. Dave Benton was from Aruba, but again, has lived in Estonia for years.

Tomas
Tomas
14 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

“I wonder how many artists won melfest on their first go. It seems very difficult to do” – not Its not difficult to win on a first go

(The Mamas, Tusse, Malena, Carola, Anna, Robin 2013, Frans, The Ark?, won on their first go

Denis
Denis
13 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

The ones I can think of now who won with thier first attempt are Martin Stenmarck, Malena Ernman, Anna Bergendahl, Robin Stjernberg and Frans. So it is uncommon but not rare

Johnny Logan won for Ireland but he did not become citizen until after he won. Back in the days Siw Malmkvist from Sweden represented Germany in 1969. She did not speak one word of German..And Ireen Sheer from UK represented two different countries in the 1970’s, none of them UK. Also the Croatian diva Tereza represented Monaco in 1966 I think and got last..

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
13 days ago
Reply to  Denis

Obviously the very first melfest or equivalent would’ve had a first time winner the First time it was mounted, But it would be something to study. How many times did an artist participate Before they finally won the ticket to Eurovision?

Denis
Denis
13 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

Well, Sanna Nielsen won on her 7th attempt. Anne-Louise Hansson participated 11 times without winning. Måns won on his third attempt, Loreen second. ABBA second attempt as well. Lena PH won on her fourth and that was a comeback from a long break. And then there are some like Perreli who wins on both attempts..

Jonas
Jonas
13 days ago
Reply to  Denis

Johnny Logan was born in Australia, because his father happened to have work there at the time. They moved back to Ireland when he was a toddler… was he really not a citizen until after his win?

Denis
Denis
13 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

No. It even says so on Eurovision official site. I assume you can not be denied citizenship if you win for the country

Colin
Colin
15 days ago
Reply to  Cocooo

Wiktoria, Panetoz, Loreen, Laurel Barker, Eva & Ewa… ect. Sounds like a fun Melfest. I hope that the songs are also good, but I am certain that the show will be super-entertaining. All the best to Sweden!

Tomas
Tomas
14 days ago
Reply to  Colin

There are actually 22 artists revealed and half of them are new comers and half not 😉

Una
Una
15 days ago
Reply to  Cocooo

Unmöglich! Niemals!!!

Alfie28
Alfie28
15 days ago

She will never top Euphoria. Too big of a hit. Put her a bad spot.

PP77
PP77
16 days ago

Juries overrated her song in 2012. 100 and more points than Pastora, Rona, Zeljko,Nina Z…

yzon
yzon
16 days ago
Reply to  PP77

i know ur trolling but lmfaooooooo

Ritoli
Ritoli
16 days ago

I think every year someone else should represent. They don’t want returning artists, it’s not fair, they should give a chance to those who didn’t participate in the contest as well.

Jonas
Jonas
16 days ago
Reply to  Ritoli

Do you think the same about other contests, like soccer and tennis and book prizes?

Una
Una
15 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Laura and Koit as a duo!!

Midnight Gold
Midnight Gold
15 days ago
Reply to  Una

Modern Talking tribute act who flopped big time, Estonia could and should be sending much better.

Una
Una
15 days ago
Reply to  Midnight Gold

“Verona” is a classic and Laura and Koit’s performance is “classic” as well, whether people like it or not.
An epic comeback would be great. Not in 2023 but maybe in 2024.

Una
Una
15 days ago
Reply to  Una

Oh, I think she’s perfect!!

Colin
Colin
15 days ago
Reply to  Una

Koit is my 5th in 1998. Such a wonderful entry! And I like the majority of 1998 songs.

Verona is a good example of a song with a successful legacy among fans despite it’s poor combined result on ESC (televoting result alone was actually pretty good). Alongside Blackbird, it’s a frequently mentioned fan-favorite, proving that the result is sometimes just a part of the story.

Colin
Colin
15 days ago
Reply to  Colin

I think that both fronts had some baffling decisions in that semi. Some which were thankfully saved by the other front, some which were not. Verona sadly, was not. It’s not in my personal top 10 of 2017, but yes, when televoters go for something this passionately, it feels wrong for it not to qualify. It was a hard semi, but there was no excuse of putting it below Rain of Revolution.

Sometimes
Sometimes
16 days ago

Hope the song would be as good as “Statements” was, still not over the fact Sweden didn’t pick it.

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
16 days ago
Reply to  Sometimes

Sweden has done Loreen wrong 🙁

Colin
Colin
16 days ago

If Loreen is back, this is indeed a great news, and a big news for Eurovision community. Euphoria is still topping the lists of winning entries, so it’s odd how some are trying to put it as she’s not relevant. She is and always will be, at least within the ESC community. Of course, the song matters, and with the right entry, she has a chance to represent Sweden again. I loved Statements, and as said below, she would have finished in top 5 had she gone to ESC again. Former winners returning in the 21st century have a really… Read more »

tom
tom
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

But Hero was better than 1999 song

Una
Una
15 days ago
Reply to  tom

“Take Me to Your Heaven” still pops into my head from time to time. Tue classic, in Swedish and English. I don’t even remember the “Hero” song.

Tomas
Tomas
14 days ago
Reply to  tom

I was always hating when they played Take me to your have in a karaoke bar in Sweden …

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

The juries did, and for better or for worse, their opinion matters a lot too. Finally, 18th in the GF is still a solid result.

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

In this one right here. 18th out of 43 is firmly in the upper half of the songs. You’d call a song placed 10th in 1992 a quite solid result, no?

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

And even if we are dwindling it down to ”18th out of 26” it would still be ”so-so” rather than ”a failure”.

My personal opinion has nothing to do with whether I’d call something semi-succesful, successful or tanking. For example, Armenia’s lame entry from 2013 also finished 18th, making is semi-successful in my book. Even if it’s much lower in the ranking on my list.

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

I agree that, compared to every expectation at the time, this wasn’t successful. It was disappointing. Absolutely. And if we are talking about a televoting result alone, then sure, it’s an objective failure. But I still see the ultimate number 18 as okay. Not stellar. Not even good. But still okay. Whether that result, due to a ”jury wildcard” was ”fair”… that’s up to debate for sure.

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

I also see your point that ”a success” or lack thereof can be reliant on the expectations and who’s behind the entry. If a small country in a difficult semi qualifies as 10th and finishes 23rd in the semi, it’s still a thing to celebrate. If a successful country with a famous singer doesn’t reach top 15, it can be seen as a failure. Okay… I do agree with that in a way. As I said below, the shades of success at ESC aren’t binary, and thus, they are an interesting subject on their own. 🙂

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

*23rd in the GF*, not semi, ofc…

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

I respectfully disagree with a part of what’s said here. Sure, if we count it *only* the finals, that result is nothing to write home about. However, I think that the entries left in the semi deserve to be counted in the whole scoreboard, as they did participate in the same contest. One thing making it a bit difficult are the automatic qualifiers, because they kind of mess-up the 1-43 lists. However, every entry that did qualify through the semis is deserving of a ”semi-successful” label, even if their result in the finals isn’t good. AQs are a different story.… Read more »

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

As I heard ”Snap” three times already on the radio on separate occasions, I’d say that Rosa indeed succeeded outside of Eurovision, and I am glad for her. It’s a cute entry.

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Additional question – What is your opinion on songs like Moldova 2022 or Romania 2013 that would’ve been well below the qualification line if it was a 100% jury score, yet they not only qualified, but also did well in the finals? I have a feeling that people, whishing televote had more power than the juries, ignore that some things were saved by the juries too. For instance, Moldova would’ve been second this year, and Kirkorov would have won in 2016 instead of Jamala. And what about all the contests 1956-1997? Are all of those scores invalid or less credible?… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Euphoria, supposedly the most popular song ever, only finished eleven points ahead of Russia in the 2012 televote.

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

That’s a surprising info. The most beloved winner of the 21st century almost lost from a song which is often considered overhyped. Party for Everybody is statistically featured more often in people’s bottom 10 than top 10 songs of 2012. And if it was sung by average looking middle-aged people, it likely would have been. Speaking of, while both countries certainly have actual gems (Uno, Russian Woman, Primadonna, When the Music Dies, Skeletons, ect.), Russia and Azerbaijan are probably the two countries with the highest amount of top ten results with songs I don’t care about. Also, with two winners… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Televoting is not a democracy. Democracies don’t allow people to obsessively vote twenty times for the same candidate.

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Democracy is a valid argument. In an ideal world where every viewer watches all the performances, doesn’t vote to for their neighbor by default, and doesn’t give troll votes, I would have supported 100% televoting. Sadly, side-effects of the 00s was seeing constantly the same countries with the largest diaspora / most good neighbors in the top ten, often with half-baked songs with a repetitive jingle and a same ethnic flair. Even in a year as bad as 2004, Shake It shouldn’t have been near top 15, let alone 2rd place. That said, juries should do better, and should be… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

I don’t really count it as coming 18th out of 43. The song never competed against the ones that didn’t make it from the other semi-final, so we can’t fairly say it “beat” them. Anyway, I still love Charlotte, I still love Hero. The blame for the bad result lies with the televoters. Jeangu getting zero points just proved that they can’t be trusted, so I will never again care about their opinion. Hero was a thousand times better than the actual winner.

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

We could count it at least those from its own semi, which would still put it as 18th out of 34. It did also beat Poland, Finland, and Romania, all of which qualified from the second semi, thus beating all of the remaining entries there. So, 18th out of 43 could be seen as a rough estimation, even if we don’t know what would have happened in a fictional 5-hour show of 43 entries. At least some AQs would have tanked each year, leaving better positions for the rest. 😉 And yes, televoting result, while indicative more times than not,… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

This is all true. I think the best solution is to let me decide the winner every year.

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Jonas is a regular here, and he’s a good guy. We all have our own tastes. I love discussing, but I know that sometimes it’s difficult to sense someone’s tone and intonation behind the keyboard. We are all fans who like to stand by our favorites and get along. I respect both of your opinions, both when we agree and when we do not. 90% of these topics are very subjective anyway. 🙂

Jonas
Jonas
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Thank you, Colin, that’s a nice thing to say. I assume I have your support for my campaign. I’m sure Ari was only joking. It’s not my fault that he loses his head over me.

Jonas
Jonas
16 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Hero came second in the televote, Empty Room was only just ahead of her. It’s not like the juries lifted Charlotte up from the very bottom. Today, Hero has more streams on Spotify.

Denis
Denis
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Agree with others. In what way was it a failure? If you only look at the final then maybe. But they are not the only countries taking part. 42 countries compete, take part and vote. Even if not all are in final they still take part. 18 out of 42 is not bad, it is average

tom
tom
17 days ago

I think its pretty obvious that Alvaro, Klara Hamarstrom, Carola, or Tusse with Cornelia and Dotter are not going to be Part of Melo 2023. Hoping to see more new artists 😉

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
17 days ago
Reply to  tom

I expect there to be some familiar faces, but I hope for a good balance of new artists too.

Trocatroc
Trocatroc
17 days ago

As much as Loreen, I’d hate to see a repeat of the Rybak effect.

Trocatroc
Trocatroc
17 days ago
Reply to  Trocatroc

*As much as I love Loreen

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
17 days ago
Reply to  Trocatroc

That’s always the risk when a Eurovision winner returns to the contest. There’s only one way to go but down. The chances of winning the contest twice are really slim unless you’re Johnny Logan. You mentioned Alexander Rybak who got a lowly 15th Place on his second go around, but it could be worse. You might not even qualify, as that’s what happened with Dana international when she Represented Israel again in 2011.

Briekimchi
Briekimchi
17 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

I mean, it wasn’t even really a *lowly* 15th place. He won a semi final! I think it has to go down as one of the more successful Eurovision returns, especially of the modern era.
Do agree that Dana International is probably one of the worst really…since she didn’t qualify. XD

Having said that, in 2017, Loreen was clearly not going to miss out on a top five place with “Statements”.

Tajci
Tajci
16 days ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

If not all, it’s still about the song. I mean, both Rybak and Dana International have had songs that were, eventually, nos as good as their iconic winning songs. Ding Dong was a disaster compared to Diva, for me it’s no surprise that she got stuck in the semi-final in 2011. He could have won with any of her other songs, Loveboy or Loca. For Alexander Rybak, the same thing applies. Just the song wasn’t right. He could have won easily with a song like Europe’s Skies. If Loreen has a killer song, she can even win Eurovision again. It… Read more »

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

Denmark and Sweden from the same semi were placed in top 10. The votes shifted after two days, apparently. Still, semi 1 was obviously much stronger on average.

Denis
Denis
16 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

Seeing how the song was so juvenile I am surprised it did that well. You mean his comeback was a song suited for JESC?

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
16 days ago
Reply to  Denis

Funny you should say that, because one of the things I always criticize about that’s how you write a song is that it sounds more like a song you expect on Sesame Street, not eurovision. Heck, it’s more childish Than some of JESC entries, And that’s meant for children.

Colin
Colin
16 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

True, That’s How You Write a Song does have a JESC vibe to it. But what about incubment JESC winner, Qami Qami? While certainly a very good song, it feels more suited for ESC than JESC.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
16 days ago
Reply to  Colin

qami qami wouldn’t feel out of place at ESC, but it only feels more “mature” Because of the dark instrumentation.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
17 days ago

I wonder when all the 2023 Melfest artists will be announced.

Filip
Filip
17 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

They all will be announced at the end of November (29th & 30th) according to Aftonbladet.

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
17 days ago
Reply to  Filip

OK I’ll keep an eye out for it

tom
tom
17 days ago
Reply to  Filip

It seems like this year Its difficult to show us who will be Part of Melo – usually Aftonbladet has a half of participants revealed ..

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
17 days ago
Reply to  tom

I guess things must be really close lipped this time but I hope they are revealed soon.

eurofan
eurofan
17 days ago

Let’s be totally honest here. Have a good hard think about Loreen coming back. How on earth could she come close to topping her 2012 entry. It would be virtually impossible to come up with a song and performance that would create that Eurovision moment. Apart from Johnny Logan, no-one has managed to win twice. I honestly think that achievement will never be repeated.

L’oiseau
L’oiseau
17 days ago

Oh no! Not again… Why cannot Cornelia do it again?

microfibertowel
microfibertowel
17 days ago
Reply to  L’oiseau

Sweden inst desperate enough to pull a Lena

tom
tom
17 days ago

Sweden is not San Marino – there are other talented artists 😉

L'oiseau
L'oiseau
14 days ago
Reply to  tom

Really?… Going back to Loreen seems kinda desperate Thomas G:son to me…

Una
Una
17 days ago

When will be the artists be revealed? The shows are starting soon!!

Jamie
Jamie
17 days ago

Still can’t get over the robbery of ‘Statements’ smh.

Jonas
Jonas
17 days ago

Statements was a political song, I’m glad so many people here like it. There’s a good chance her 2023 song will also be political.

Jonny
Jonny
17 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

1944 was good as it was.

vetrina
vetrina
17 days ago

‘Statements’ was robbed though! I’m still mad about it!

Milan
Milan
17 days ago
Reply to  vetrina

Apparently everybody here loved “Statements” (me too) 🙂

tom
tom
17 days ago
Reply to  vetrina

Statements was in a difficult hear back in 2017 … Wiltoria and JOhn Henrik were better and Yes also Anton was better – maybe they should have done back in 2017 the same thing what they did in 2022 with Andra Chansen or top best 4 to qualified out of 8 – Its more fair

tom
tom
17 days ago
Reply to  tom

Lisa Miskovsky and Alvaro would have qualified instead of Anna and Cazzi if they would take the 4 most voted songs from Semi 5 this year

tom
tom
17 days ago
Reply to  tom

Thanks for dislikes 😉

Thanos
Thanos
17 days ago

As much as I fear that Sweden may not vote for her if she goes down that road, I really want Loreen to compete with something alternative and experimental like she did in 2017. Statements was miles better than the Melfest winner of that year and would have been one of the most artistic, theatrical and avant-garde songs ever to compete at ESC. And Euphoria, even while being a Europop song also had something alternative to it and was presented in a heavily theatrical way. Can’t wait to hear what she has in store of us!

Polegend Godnova
17 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

good luck booking that alternative and avant-garde song you speak of with g:son in the credits lmao. she’s going full mainstream after years of critically panned and commercially unsuccessful faux-alternative music (statements was electropop as well, the presentation was just off-putting).

Thanos
Thanos
17 days ago

Every Loreen production has a way to add something unique to even a more middle of the road Europop entry imo. I get that the lineup of songwriters is not extremely promising as far as creativity is concerned, but I am still hopeful. No one can deny that Loreen can sing and can perform

Colono
Colono
17 days ago

I am not seeing that she is coming back and not entering top 3. Sweden be wiser this time!..

Stephanie
Stephanie
17 days ago

Rumour or not…THAT WOULD BE GREAT!!!

Ani
Ani
17 days ago

Think if she competes (it is not officially declared yet) she will get a hard time…Swedes find her and her sound very weird and usually not their cup of tea. She might flop even harder than Statements did, it all comes down to the song…she is not as popular in Sweden as Carola, Charlotte, Måns or Danny.

Jonas
Jonas
17 days ago
Reply to  Ani

That’s because it was a religious song, not her usual Melodifestivalen style, and only two years since her third win.

Jonas
Jonas
17 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

One love, walking in the dark beside me, one love, always there to help and guide me. Carola’s “one love” is God.

Jonas
Jonas
17 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

This is Carola. The woman who actually went to Bethlehem to record an album in the stable where Jesus was born.

Séamus Mór
Séamus Mór
10 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Did she have a donkey and an ox on backing vocals?

Fast Food Music Lover
Fast Food Music Lover
18 days ago

She’s on top of my list for people I want to see coming back to Eurovision so I’m excited for this. It’s all about the song though so I don’t think being a past winner is really relevant. But I guess she already knows that and will bring something entirely new and exciting.

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
18 days ago

I love Loreen and I’d be over the moon if she makes it back to Eurovision, but I’d rather hold out given how Swedes tend to vote at Mello. For now, I wish her the best and hope the song’s a banger (bc we all know she’s capable of that) 🙂

Thallo
Thallo
18 days ago

I continue to stand by the point that Statements would’ve won Eurovision.

Statements was simply too avant-garde for Swedish viewers, Sweden loves basic pop music and Statements was far from basic. Loreen knows she has to go much more mainstream if she wants to win Melfest and make it to Eurovision again.

Briekimchi
Briekimchi
18 days ago
Reply to  Thallo

I think it would’ve finished 2nd or 3rd.
It wouldn’t have won…but would’ve done a lot better than the actual Swedish entry.

Thallo
Thallo
17 days ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

I truly believe Statements would’ve been so impactful at Eurovision that Salvador Sobral wouldn’t have standed a chance.

Stephanie
Stephanie
17 days ago
Reply to  Thallo

Nevertheless I loved Statements….

West
West
17 days ago
Reply to  Thallo

At first I didn’t like Statements, but over time it grew on me. It would probably be too avant-garde for the rest od the Europe as well.

Yeah
Yeah
18 days ago

Melodifestivalen got 2 824 submissions, yet same songwriters and singers remain.

tom
tom
17 days ago
Reply to  Yeah

Well not all 2824 are good 🙂 Sorry not sorry, we will have a half newcomers and half artist who already been in Melo (as always)

And maybe others doesnt like to compete – Moly Sanden said she would love to be internally pick for Eurovision instead of competing in Melo – same Linus Svenning

So we will have every year this conversation i guess …

tom
tom
17 days ago
Reply to  tom

Well she already been in Junior ESC for Sweden – i always says that the new artists should go to Eurovision – but it depends on the song actually.

Sweden is not San Marino and everyone deserve to go to ESC … 🙂

And Its quite predictable who will take a Part in Melo 2023 actually (i think) bc so far everyone apart from Nordman were obvious to come back (Lolou – The Mamas, Wiktoria, Theoz and Norwegian twins)

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
17 days ago
Reply to  tom

When will the official list of Melfest 2023 participants will be announced?

tom
tom
17 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

End of November 28-30

Esc addict
Esc addict
18 days ago

Let’s see if it happens, but I would be happy, I wasn’t a fan of her song in 2017, I mean when we talk about a Loreen’s come back the expectations are stellar from the eurofans as Euphoria remains the reference. Loreen coming back in Eurovision, the fandom would be in fire.

Kalla
Kalla
18 days ago

Well this is very exciting news! Wether she does well or not, I’m very excited to see the Queen Loreen back withim eurovision.

Mariah
Mariah
18 days ago

It’s great to know Loreen’s going to release another song soon. What an amazing artist she truly is.

Vivian
Vivian
18 days ago

If we can take this as a sign Sweden intends to actually try to beat Ireland’s win record… be my guest. I won’t really get my hopes up though, since Statements flopped a handful of years ago…

Jonas
Jonas
18 days ago
Reply to  Vivian

Sweden need two more wins to beat the record.

Jonas
Jonas
18 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Although maybe already would have the record, and a three in a row, if Salem had won Melodifestivalen 2010, Azerbaijan had not engineered 2011 before Loreen came along. Sad.

Idksmth
Idksmth
18 days ago

Seems like she has stayed as an icon in the Eurovision bubble rather than in Sweden’s music industry, so I don’t think it’s safe to say that she will win. Her comeback in 2017 proves that winning Eurovision doesn’t give you an automatic pass to the final, so it really depends on what she’s bringing this time around. “Statements” was kind of an allienating song, although many eurofans loved it, but it’s the Swedish public voting anyway, nothing is certain.

Polegend Godnova
18 days ago

the way no one in sweden has cared about this lady since 2013 but eurofans somehow think that her entering melfest with a song written by g:son (another person who owes his entire career to euphoria) means she’s winning eurovision… god bless lol

Nils
Nils
18 days ago

Thank you for mentioning it!

It really is somewhat depressing she was never heard of again, although one couldn’t have escaped ‘Euphoria’ if one had tried to. I’m glad at least Måneskin were able to translate their victory into commercially decent international success for now.

In the short term, every one-hit-wonder coming from Eurovision can and has to be considered as an achievement. But in the long term, the contest really needs to produce another ABBA or Celine Dion ASAP.

Polegend Godnova
18 days ago
Reply to  Nils

we should forget about a star as big as abba or céline dion existing in the streaming era, eurovision-related or not. måneskin managed to become a household name that can fill concert venues, which is something most people with streaming hits can’t claim.

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
18 days ago
Reply to  Nils

The closest to ABBA or Celine Dion we have out of recent ESC festivals is Maneskin but they still have a long way to go, and haven’t heard of them for a while already :s

Stephanie
Stephanie
17 days ago
Reply to  Nils

Eurovision has brought us more than only Celine Dion and ABBA. Cliff Richard, Olivia Newton John, France Gall, Nana Mouskouri, Vicky Leandros and Lara Fabian. And I know for sure I forgot a few…

Denis
Denis
18 days ago

LOl, ypu are funny you. “No one in Sweden cares about her” Based on what, the charts you so frequently spend your time visiting? It’s 2023, no one cares about charts any more.Not in Sweden at least. The reason she is not in charts is because she don’t want to be. And Swedes appreciate Loreen for not caring. She has more concerning issues than bothering to hitting charts, she does stuff that actually matters. For her is more deep than simply being a shallow hitmaker. Speaking of Måneskin, have their recent desperate attempt to sell out by working with Max… Read more »

Polegend Godnova
16 days ago
Reply to  Denis

their new single is charting in multiple countries, something loreen hasn’t seen since 2013. and they’re selling out venues internationally and getting grammy noms, something loreen has never seen and will never see.

Bombalurina
Bombalurina
18 days ago

She can win Eurovision 2023 but can’t win Melfest 2023 because it is harder to win Melfest than eurovision! Statements was such a winner song but it wasn’t even runner up it was ELIMINATED in second chance! I never understand what Swedes think when they vote for a song.
There were a lot of songs in Melfest who could win Eurovision but was ditched bu the voters, such as “Keep On walking” (2010), “Statements” (2017) and “Bulletproof”(2020)
Long story short, i don’t keep my expectations high on this

Jonas
Jonas
18 days ago
Reply to  Bombalurina

It’s very rare for somebody 40ish to win.

eurovisionfun
eurovisionfun
17 days ago
Reply to  Bombalurina

and Survivor (2013)

Cyprus
Cyprus
18 days ago

Wow.

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
18 days ago

Wow.

Jonas
Jonas
18 days ago
Reply to  Purple Mask

We shouldn’t get too excited. These songwriters also wrote France 2020. I do trust Loreen to stay away from stuff like that, though.

Polegend Godnova
18 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

not to mention g:son hasn’t seen the light of the top 10 since euphoria and his catalog is mostly dated schlager…