On Saturday they performed at the Barcelona Eurovision Party in Spain. And while Piqued Jacks enjoyed their time on stage, they haven’t always enjoyed comments on social media.

So much so that San Marino’s delegation have now issued a statement calling out the “disrespect” that the band have faced from some corners of the Internet. 

San Marino’s statement on “toxicity” and “bullying”

“14 participations since the debut of San Marino at Eurovision Song Contest and currently the only surviving micro state in the Olympics of music. Regardless the music genre we had on board each year, on the top of our priorities there is always MUSIC, LOVE and RESPECT.

“Since their well deserved victory at UVPSM, our own Piqued Jacks and their dear management has shown maximum effort of collaboration which has created a great team spirit.

“San Marino is so proud to be represented by 4 brilliantly talented and young musicians with great attitude, excitement and who has big love and respect to all communities, people and artists.

“With the great hope that you may know how much the Delegation of San Marino loves Eurovision and the Eurovision communities, we couldn’t keep in our chest a few words:

“We value every single opinion. BUT…

We don’t welcome disrespect, toxicity, bullying, hate and radicalism in any terms towards our representatives.

We announce our full solidarity with our artists.

All we care about is love, music, respect and sharing.

Piqued Jacks and “Like an Animal” will return in Polish Eurovision Party Warsaw and we can’t wait to sing along with all of you.”

Slovenia’s Joker Out tweeted a message of support, saying how unpleasant it’s been to see San Marino’s act “receiving toxic hate.”

 

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Raphael
Raphael
1 year ago

I don’t like the song but they seem nice and there’s no reason to send hate. It’s better to support the ones you love than to show disapproval to the ones you don’t support.

noqueen
noqueen
1 year ago

These guys are so cute and nice, they deserve more love!

Vladimir P.
Vladimir P.
1 year ago

It’s interesting that so many people have become incapable of expressing dislike for a song/film/content/view and yet remaining respectful. You don’t have to like a song to be respectful. They are right, that kind of behavior is toxic

Alex
Alex
1 year ago

they are reaching as usual. need some extra PR

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
1 year ago

Very sadly, I’d like to raise the problem of disgusting personal comments being sent on Wiwibloggs about Mae Muller (UK 2023), some of which are ant*sem*tic. I fear that calling these out individually would only draw more attention to them, and that I should leave these for the moderators. On the other hand, please let us commenters know if calling these comments out will help to stamp them out. Thank you.

Kiwicelt
Kiwicelt
1 year ago
Reply to  Purple Mask

Totally agree and wondered the same. I don’t believe this site is moderated as there are far more toxic posts allowed on wiwibloggs than other eurovision sites. I was shocked to see the anit-semitic, no need for asterisks in my view, comments about Mae.

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
1 year ago
Reply to  Kiwicelt

Thank you.
N.B. There used to be auto-filters here, so that’s why I included the asterisks.

MartyMcCu
MartyMcCu
1 year ago

It is a sign of times that many fans have become volatile and aggressive in their tone when expressing themselves within their written opinions, often rude, inconsiderate and offensive to others, the repercussions can be often damaging and heartlessly cruel. Intentional or not intentional, a lot has to be learned on how one has to communicate in our day and age. The Tick Tock generation has a lot to answer and to learn. While we salute and sustain freedom of expression as part of the very essence of our everyday rights. We need to be mindful of the very basics… Read more »

Miliyoly
Miliyoly
1 year ago

The comments??? Where is this energy when the Polish girl get bullied??? The hypocrite lmao

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
1 year ago
Reply to  Miliyoly

I agree. Regarding Blanka (Poland 2023), on Wiwibloggs I previously recalled a similar situation that happened to Manel (Spain 2017), and tried to re-assure that things would be alright. However, I was downvoted. I also observed how Blanka had seemingly been “blanked out” by the fans, which was both an amusing play-on-words and a serious point at the same time.

Alex
Alex
1 year ago
Reply to  Purple Mask

I denounce any hateful language towards her, however the “bejbah” joke should be seen as fair play. Especially after her own participation in Homophobia and other forms of bigotry and hate towards Jann.

europotato
europotato
1 year ago

Every year there is toxicity in the euro fandom. I think media outlets and youtube channels covering the songs need to stop being shady in their reactions too as it just gives watchers excuses to follow suit. If you don’t like a song, explain why you don’t. There are actual YouTubers like thePeaceAround who give constructive criticism, she may not like a song for personal taste but she always sees the appeal or appreciates the production value for instance, THATS an actual reviewer, not people overreacting to Sweden then completely slating the songs they don’t like.

Patrick Pastor
Patrick Pastor
1 year ago
Reply to  europotato

A lot of those reactions aren’t done by professional people – just guys who are trying to get a laugh. Which is fine for the viewer….until the fans start saying that to the actual singers.

Kiwicelt
Kiwicelt
1 year ago
Reply to  europotato

Agree, there are sometimes songs I really dislike (not this year though) but as my musical ability is Nul point, I am always amazed at people who can produce any music, so would never attack the singer, musicians. lyricists in the way some do.

Leif
Leif
1 year ago

By entering a competition, you do invite criticism, for better or worse. You can’t complain just because everyone doesn’t love you. Saying you think a song is terrible is fair. Saying the lead singer sounds like “a strangled cat” is maybe not (even if you think they do – which I don’t in this case). The devil is in the detail. Art has always been criticized (as it should be, since it’s subjective) – and if you can’t deal with your art not being embraced universally, then maybe don’t enter it in a competition to be judged? Let me also… Read more »

MartyMcCU
MartyMcCU
1 year ago
Reply to  Leif

It’s the way people criticise , often going over the line of what’s morally acceptable. Mental well being and mindfulness is lacking in our day and age in work and society and through communicating and expressing one’s thoughts , competition or no competition. We all have the right to criticise but not to the point it tantamount to abusive behaviour often dividing people and hurting individuals.

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
1 year ago
Reply to  MartyMcCU

I don’t disagree! Just as long as the real goal is not to just squelch all criticism. While I do think some people out there really need to consider what they are putting out there (or at the very least how they are phrasing it), I also feel like you can’t say anyting these days… and I do not see that as a positive thing. It kills all debate and communication. I don’t think that’s healthy either and I think we’re flirting with that way of thinking. Not just here but in society at large. It’s like, if you don’t… Read more »

Zhenia
Zhenia
1 year ago
Reply to  Leif

There is a huge difference between criticism, opinion and bullying. Criticism is about what needs to be fixed (“The production is underwhelming, she’s off-key here”) , opinion is about your likes and dislikes (“I think the song sucks”) and bullying is about targeting people personally.

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
1 year ago
Reply to  Zhenia

Look, bullying is getting personal. So I disagree a little. Saying a song sucks is actually ok. Sometimes a dislike will be so strong that it requires that extra oopmpf so convey that. It’s an opinion AND a criticism. And that’s fine. An opinion does not equal bullying by default. On the other hand, saying things like the people who created the song suck/are stupid/whatever is not ok. I would say THAT qualifies as bullying. So, that a lot of people simply say they do not like a particular song is not bullying. It’s just hard to hear for those… Read more »

Ifty
Ifty
1 year ago

Toxicity among Eurovision fans this year is really depressing.

Ana Karenina
Ana Karenina
1 year ago

Ban Spain from hosting these pre-parties! Obviously the “fans” the don’t know how to behave.

Jordi
Jordi
1 year ago
Reply to  Ana Karenina

This is nothing related to Spain hosting a pre-party. It’s about harsh criticism and online bullyng!

Ana Karenina
Ana Karenina
1 year ago
Reply to  Jordi

About that, you may want to ask Piqued Jacks, Wild Youth, and Gustaph.

Mary M.
Mary M.
1 year ago

Here is my hot take. Even as a Spanish Eurovision fan, I would not go to one of those preparties. I know there a chill people in the fandom, but there is this sector of really loud, entitled, and super annoying people that are everywhere, and being honest, sometimes they even make the entire Eurovision experience uncomfortable for the rest of us, specially on places like Twitter where you cannot even have an opinion without being attacked for it (many of these fans belong to a certain fan club OR have blogs and stuff which make their opinions more “important”… Read more »

Panna
Panna
1 year ago
Reply to  Mary M.

The biggest fan bases always get the most heat – these being Spaniards, Greeks and Israelis

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  Panna

Spaniards, Greeks and Israelis are also loud being Mediterranean. And strong minded. There’s a cultural element to that. The truth is that there’s toxicity everywhere. It’s a sign of our times unfortunately. The problem in ESC becomes more obvious in the fan communities that are more vocal and these are the Mediterranean ones unfortunately. I don’t want to blame people for being loud, but I do blame them for feeling entitled. And this is also an issue in the gay communities unfortunately – we have a low threshold on criticising others and this can often turn toxic and abusive. And… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

PS. I’m Greek and I have close Israeli and Spanish friends. And I’m also gay. Please read the above keeping that in mind before bashing me lol

L'oiseau
1 year ago

Well, I have been following the Eurovision “online community” more closely since 2017 and had to discover how many toxic so-called fans are out there, even receiving personal messages insulting me, let alone the artists. That is why I don’t follow Eurovision in any social media, apart from wiwibloggs, where after all, there is now some moderation and where comments are anonymous. I would recommend the artists to do the same. Bet even in the early days of internet in the late nineties and with the first chat communities it became clear that the verbal behaviour is often toxic. The… Read more »

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
1 year ago
Reply to  L'oiseau

For me, Internet in the late ‘90s and early 2000s was a lot slower and more basic, so I didn’t really notice any bad behaviour online back then. I also recall when Facebook started, everyone wrote on each other’s “walls” and it all seemed so nice! It’s very different now. I left FB in 2014. Wiwibloggs is one of only two social media sites that I regularly interact with. The reasons are not entirely down to toxicity, but the increased bad behaviours of others are certainly a factor, especially where there is a lack of accountability.

Panna
Panna
1 year ago
Reply to  L'oiseau

Agree. I have a group of friends to discuss Eurovision with, so I do not need to get on Twitter, Facebook or wherever else

Fan eurovision
Fan eurovision
1 year ago

I don’t want to be mean but it’s also up to the Spanish broadcaster or the delegation to issue a press release to tell Spanish eurofans to respect artists and competitors. you can’t hate countries and say that blanca is the best, plus they can’t vote for her at eurovision. every year spanish eurofans tackle artists even chanel, blas canto,

Jimmy
Jimmy
1 year ago
Reply to  Fan eurovision

Hopefully no more statements are needed and all Eurovisions, in all spaces and on all platforms, can be civil and respectful of different views, tastes, and music.

Jimmy
Jimmy
1 year ago
Reply to  Jimmy

*Eurovision fans

Karl
Karl
1 year ago
Reply to  Jimmy

Oh, they are needed. A lot of so-called “Eurofans” need to be treated like unruly children.

Jimmy
Jimmy
1 year ago
Reply to  Fan eurovision

This issue certainly has nothing to do with Blanca Paloma, and what happened to San Marino specifically at Barcelona should not reflect on her or hurt her chances to win 2023.

Sanne
Sanne
1 year ago

It’s okay to express your opinion if you don’t like the song. However, when it becomes toxic, bullying, mean comments, hate, it’s not okay. After all everyone is human and every artist put their best into their song. The comments should be about the song, not about the humans behind it. It’s so beautiful that Joker Out is commenting on it as well

Sebastian
Sebastian
1 year ago

San Marino ending bullism

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1 year ago

Words! Sadly when the same people are able to bully and insult children the same way during the jesc I’m not even surprised when I see their behavior towards adult people. This fury is unbearable and at some point should be punished systematically. Unfortunately San Marino are not the only one this year to suffer this, I think about Denmark and Greece and even some “favs” receive hatred from others “favs” stans, it feels this toxicity is getting worse each year, I don’t know how to stop that thing but we all should fight against that.

Mart
Mart
1 year ago

What’s even worse and more embarrassing is that it’s usually grown a*s men insulting children during JESC and complaining about the commentators making weak childish jokes. As if the JESC’s target audience is men over 40.

Vivian
Vivian
1 year ago

It’s OK to be critical towards a song and express that you don’t like something with proper argumentation, but it’s never OK to harass artists who are just doing your own thing just because you don’t like them. I feel so bad for the bands from San Marino and Ireland, seemingly the biggest victims of this. If you feel the urge to harass artists for no reason other than to vent your own frustrations, then go touch some grass and seek help

Lorena
Lorena
1 year ago

Some people go to the pre-parties and believe they are on Twitter…. Social media and the misunderstanding about freedom of speech are really harmful.

MyOpinion
MyOpinion
1 year ago

Totally agree! Some fans are toxic and Childish. And some have no taste either…,San Marino presents Music we need more of in ESC. Good rock. I love their song

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
1 year ago

What I would say to Piqued Jacks and their delegation is: Don’t let some bad fans get you down. There is plenty of love for you out there, and you have already seen that on Twitter anyhow. Most importantly, try to enjoy the music and the performances. As for Wiwibloggs commenters, we have periodically stopped ourselves and had conversations about toxicity over the years. It is difficult to see toxicity seemingly get worse over time, though it has not yet driven me away from commenting altogether. I comment here because I enjoy exchanging views on newly written songs with people… Read more »

Jimmy
Jimmy
1 year ago
Reply to  Purple Mask

Hear, hear 🙂

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Purple Mask

We might not always agree but I have the same feelings towards you, pal 🙂

Voix
Voix
1 year ago

A certain number of Spanish eurofans needs to be banned by all Eurovision related events until they stop being toxic and bully whoever they don’t like. Chanel might be your queen now but we all remember what you did to her.

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago

Was curious about it so I looked for info regarding that and I found that it’ll be released on April 5th

Efthymios
Efthymios
1 year ago

Surely, “Like An Animal” shares my bottom place with Poland with the lowest score I’ve ever given to an entry but just because I don’t like the song itself doesn’t mean, I have a right to straight up insult the artists and/or their efforts. Not everyone’s psychology functions the same. Just look at Wild Youth from Ireland. Every day we’re getting closer to the contest they look even more defeated in their interviews and at the Barcelona PreParty, thanks to the constant toxic treatment they’ve been suffering by a lot of self-delcared “Eurofans”, they really look like they’ve lost all… Read more »

Efthymios
Efthymios
1 year ago
Reply to  Efthymios

But still, yes, even in her case, don’t bully anyone at all if you didn’t intend to vote for them from the start, anyways.

BetwixtTales
BetwixtTales
1 year ago

This message also needs to reach the people hating on Reiley from Denmark/Faroe Islands. He’s literally done nothing but performed his song, and he’s getting hate from so many angles. It is not okay regardless of whom this behavior is aimed at. It needs to stop. As a Eurovision fan, it’s so disappointing and uncomfortable to witness. And when you try and tell people to please stop spreading this kind of negativity all over the place, a dozen more people stand ready to jump in and pile on, contributing to the toxicity, while also attacking you for speaking up. I… Read more »

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
1 year ago
Reply to  BetwixtTales

Not only that, they even insult you and say the meanest things to you just for trying to change the convo’s tone to something nicer and more constructive 🙁

BetwixtTales
BetwixtTales
1 year ago
Reply to  BiCHOTA

Yup. I’ve been at the receiving end when I asked people to please stop the negative targeting of certain acts. People started coming at me, telling me to grow up and provokingly asking if I was 12… Even if I was (I’m not, I’ve been watching Eurovision for over 30 years), why would that matter or make their behavior justifiable? People really don’t like it when someone takes a stand and points out their bad behavior, which, honestly makes them look like the 12-year-olds. SMH And did it make them stop? Of course not.

Briekimchi
Briekimchi
1 year ago

Maybe I missed something but is there genuinely “toxicity” out there? It seems that word is thrown around far too easily nowadays. People don’t like the song, I’ve seen people expressing that. If there’s something nasty being written about the band members on a personal level then that’s something else. But, if it’s merely that people are saying the song is bad, the solution is to enter a better song. It’s a competition after all.

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
1 year ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

The thing is, I’ve even seen comments here saying “the song is terrible” and that “the band is awful” or that the singer “sings like a dying cat” and pretty mean and insulting stuff like that. Seen similar comments for Denmark and Ireland too, even for Sweden saw once someone saying Tattoo was “a mid song performed by a finished artist trying to stay relevant.” Like, is it necessary to say such things?

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  BiCHOTA

And I could complement your examples bc almost all countries have received hate this year. The UK (bc BBC chose Mae instead of Rina or Birdy), Finland (guy “can’t sing”), Norway (alleged plagiarism) and the Netherlands (“cliché” lyrics and Duncan being involved) come to mind as hate victims too :/

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  BiCHOTA

The biggest problem is that certain people feel entitled to say these things. This has been a big problem in our community for many years now and Barcelona party is a perfect example how this mentality has been cultivated within the fan community to the degree that it reaches the artists in the most negative way. Freedom of speech is one thing. Feeling entitled to be hateful is another. How ironic for a community that pretends to be inclusive.

Dryan
Dryan
1 year ago
Reply to  BiCHOTA

How is “the song is terrible” mean? It’s just an opinion. Are people not allowed to have opinions anymore? No one needs this fake positivity. It’s a competition after all.

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  Dryan

If competition for you means being rude and offensive to the other competitors you have a disturbed view of what a competition really means. And who talked about fake positivity? Is being fake the only way for you to have a positive opinion about something? PS. “the song is terrible” is as much of an opinion as “your taste sucks”. What does it even mean? Do you want to sat that it’s terrible for your (possibly awful) taste? Then it’s an expression of preference and not a statement so phrase it accordingly. People need to learn that having a taste/view… Read more »

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

I agree with Dryan here, in a way. Saying that ”the song is terrible” should be allowed. *Of course* one means ”by my own taste”. Every accolade or criticism is solely by one’s own taste. It’s a given. The criticsm should never be personal in terms of attacking the performer, wishing them unwell in life, calling them names, ect. Who knows, maybe this same performer will provide you with a song you’ll love next time. But criticizing their vocals (in this song), stage show, lyrics, melody, and production values should be allowed, as long as the wording isn’t personal, but… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

I never said that a comment should or shouldn’t be allowed. We just need to reflect on the way we criticise others and h. Would you go to your work colleague and tell them “oh you’re terrible at work today”, or “your hair/clothes look awful”. Why go and do that to an artist that is just doing their job? Constructive critique can be good when it’s well intended but I don’t see any good intentions in comments like “you sing awfully” or “your song is sh*t” or “get out of ESC because you suck”. Please reflect on the abuse that… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

*and how this might affect them. I don’t know why I missed the rest of this sentence there lol

Kosey
Kosey
1 year ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

Now it’s me hovering over the downvote button Briekimchi, haha! Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course that’s true, it is the collectivism of the opinion that bothers me when groups of people try to turn an opinion into fact, then it strays into bullying very easily.

Jimmy
Jimmy
1 year ago

Strange that some people below don’t seem to realise that Wiwibloggs is social media. Delegations do take note of what is said here.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 year ago

I can smell the anger like an animal!

But seriously was the hate just on social media or was it THAT bad at the pre-parties? Because for an entry that most have in their bottom three, people have actually been relatively positive compared to Poland or Ireland or even Greece this year.

Hebbuzz
Hebbuzz
1 year ago

Maybe the woke revolution of snowflakes cant handle criticism? Every known person knows haters gotta hate and lovers gotta love. Just dont pay attention to what you dont want to grow.

I case of San Marino , dont expect each year the fans wil live your entry after year by year entering songs of real low quality.

gea
gea
1 year ago
Reply to  Hebbuzz

Once such comments start to impact one’s well being this “just don’t pay attention” approach doesn’t apply anymore. Look at Chanel last year: the girl had to remove her social media accounts (which affected her access to fans ie potentially to her financial well being on a long term: no fans, no promotion = no money). This is becoming a serious problem and the fact you had a delegation that had to address this is telling you something. Even the official Eurovision social media had to step in two years ago after Destiny’s rehearsal because of so much hatred and… Read more »

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Hebbuzz

Dude, I know there’s people that gets easily triggered and I hate a lot of woke stuff but what they’ve been getting isn’t criticism (at least not in a constructive way), it’s bullying and they didn’t even do anything “wrong” or “reprehensible,” besides apparently (as in apparently this being the reason behind the hate they’ve been getting) “daring” to win the competition “yas queen!” Ronela took part of

Hebbuzz
Hebbuzz
1 year ago

Artists should understand the reactions are on what they choose to create and enter into competition , not on who they are. Every artist wants to be judged. you cant just say its hate when its not positive. The shouldnt either take praise for a song as live for them. Reactions are on products and can be seen as a compliment or not to its creators. If you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Hebbuzz

People were chanting Ronela’s name, bitter that she had been defeated. That’s not constructive criticism, it’s just juvenile bullying.

Hebbuzz
Hebbuzz
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

I think its Ronela support , not bullying.

gea
gea
1 year ago
Reply to  Hebbuzz

Why did they chant during Piqued Jacks’ performance then? There are so many ways to show love for an artist you like. Chanting her name during a performance of the actual San Marinese representatives is nothing but bullying or trying to show somebody is not welcome. In simple way: it is bullying because the point of chanting her name was to make Piqued Jacks feel bad. That is always the point of bullying, intentional use of any tools and approaches to make people feel bad. It is not important of Piqued Jacks members felt bad, but the intention was clear.

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
1 year ago
Reply to  Hebbuzz

Dude, one thing is to be judged (which we all do) and other is to feel entitled to outright insult anyone for petty reasons

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
1 year ago
Reply to  BiCHOTA

* to judge, sorry

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  Hebbuzz

Blaming the artists for the reactions is part of the problem. Reactions are not a “product”. They are a choice.

Hebbuzz
Hebbuzz
1 year ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Composition, choreography and clothing are choices/products. Not people

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  Hebbuzz

People’s reactions ARE choices. You choose how to react.

Dryan
Dryan
1 year ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

And people are allowed to have a negative reaction. Now the Ronela thing is obviously tasteless and too much but generally speaking people are allowed to dislike a song and voice their opinion.

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  Dryan

Of course they are. That’s what I’m saying. They choose to react in a negative way, often with hate, bullying and harassment against the artists and this can have a negative impact on them. It’s fine to have a negative opinion. It’s not fine to react AGAINST people that are doing their best to do their jobs as artists, because you have a different taste. And most importantly you’re not entitled to do that because you’re a fan. Eurovision doesn’t belong to the fans. We all make ESC what it is or isn’t.

claudee
claudee
1 year ago

Everyone really should be nice to everyone. Even here I see toxicity and even if you don’t like the song then just don’t say anything or find something to like about it, even if it’s just the costume etc. I’m glad that the artists are standing up for what’s right and I will be sure to change the way I speak too.

Thom C
Thom C
1 year ago

This is probablgy one of the reasons the comments here on Wiwibloggs are being approved before published.

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Thom C

They are? Testing… testing… 1… 2… 3…

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

Test results, no, they are not.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

Certain accounts have favouritism, can confirm I’ve had some of my posts had to be confirmed too on some threads.

Jimmy
Jimmy
1 year ago

And carte blanche to be as vile and hateful as possible. We all see it. I don’t know why it’s tolerated.

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago

Happens to me too, but I thought it was bc of the wording (such comments had words that needed approval before being posted) rather than favoritism 😮

Thom C
Thom C
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

Hmmm … you’re right. Some comment I posted like a week ago did not get published until I got an email saying “you’re comment is approved” or something simllar. But not this time 🙂

Marlinken
Marlinken
1 year ago

If the comments on Wiwibloggs are anything to go by… Everyone is lovely to everyone except Sweden who everybody hates because they’re too manufactured. The UK who hate themselves but it doesn’t matter because the UK music industry is bigger than Jupiter. Spain hate everyone who isn’t Spanish and quite a lot of those who are. Poland and Serbia usually hate everyone to make their own acts seem stronger but they can’t do that because the avant-garde and nepotism have temporarily “indisposed” them so Israel is taking up their place until further notice. And ESC fans who hate everything as… Read more »

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 year ago
Reply to  Marlinken

Agreed about Sweden and the UK but I like Polish and Serbian people a whole lot…

Nicomro
Nicomro
1 year ago

I don t understand hate, in any event or situation.
I think hate is utterly ironic in the Eurovision fandom supposed to be very tolérant, open minded, love oriented etc.
But I Guess i’m wrong. Haters should have lived a sad life to feel pleasure bullying artists giving their best, even though the songs are questionnable.

Marlinken
Marlinken
1 year ago
Reply to  Nicomro

Gays are some of the least tolerant, “love oriented” people on the planet. Don’t pretend it’s anyone but us in these threads!

Dryan
Dryan
1 year ago
Reply to  Marlinken

Yeah, as we all know the gays are the worst. We could learn one or two things from the love oriented right wingers. Some of you self hating gays really make the dumbest comments. Gay people are allowed to have negative opinions. This doesn’tmake js the worst people on earth. Ridiculous.

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago

What purpose do these gatherings serve? If this is the audience, maybe acts should rethink next year. A huge carbon footprint just for abuse?

Jofty
Jofty
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

Well a fan like me can have a whole weekend in Amsterdam and see the concert for less than the cost of a standing ticket at a freaking semi-final. Go and figure. The acts can practice in front of audience and perhaps – ahem – improve their singing.

Jonas
Jonas
1 year ago
Reply to  Jofty

What is the cost to the planet, to an artist’s mental health?

Jofty
Jofty
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonas

I’m sure they have a big support network as per those reality TV shows. If it’s that bad (I hope not), withdraw or consider another artist performing the song. Preferably someone who can sing and not think they are entitled to be the next Maneskin. (I am not referring to Piqued Jacks).Eurovision can be a poisoned chalice (poor Ann Sophie was an example in 2015).

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago

I never really got the hate Piqued Jacks has been getting, but it got out of hand and they didn’t even do anything “reprehensible.” Personally, I liked their song (I get some might’ve felt underwhelmed though). Also, they can perform live and the guys don’t look like bad people at all. I mean, I feel like I’m no better than whom I’m criticizing rn (I usually trash Sweden up to a point where it feels irrational, and sometimes I’ve bashed other countries too) but this has to be addressed and –myself, I’ve tried my best recently not to be destructive… Read more »

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Benito Camelo

Almost forgot, I’m sending Piqued Jacks all the love and best wishes! <3

Yankee
Yankee
1 year ago

No one has experienced true hate like Blanka from Poland.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 year ago
Reply to  Yankee

Facts.

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Yankee

Even in her case I feel like the hate got out of hand :/

Miliyoly
Miliyoly
1 year ago
Reply to  Yankee

She is the one who get true hate, but people act like she deserved that, no one deserve this level of toxic

GojoSatoru
GojoSatoru
1 year ago

I agree that toxicity is bad, but reacting on the toxicity only adds fuel to the fire.

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  GojoSatoru

Depends on how you react and handle it, but this had to be addressed, it got out of hand

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  GojoSatoru

Toxicity shouldn’t be tolerated. The answer is not adding more hate but on the other hand silence will just leave more room for the toxic voices to become louder. We just need calm reasonable reactions and isolating the toxic part of our community. And that said, my opinion is that Barcelona party should not be repeated next year. Period.

Pat
Pat
1 year ago

Sending Piqued Jacks all the love and luck they deserve!

The fandom can often forget that these are real people just trying to take time to do something they love and make their countries and families proud. There’s no need to hate on anyone’s hard work because YOU don’t like it. Let’s all try to be a bit more chill. <3

Tom
Tom
1 year ago

This is really shameful how Eurovision fandom behaves. Its full of toxicity and disrespect these days.

Martin
Martin
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom

True, and I can see it that every year it is still worse…And this is called Eurovision fandom…

Patrick Pastor
Patrick Pastor
1 year ago
Reply to  Martin

I wonder if it will ever get to the point where many newer artists refuse to even consider participating because of the fans.

correct
correct
1 year ago
Reply to  Patrick Pastor

Piqued Jacks are probably telling other bands they’re close with not to participate as we speak

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
1 year ago
Reply to  correct

No doubt they’re doing so and I don’t blame them, tbf

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
1 year ago
Reply to  Patrick Pastor

This has already been the case in many countries. Look in Spanish pre-selections for example prior to Befest and you’ll find the answer.

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Martin

Indeed it’s getting worse, and it’s everywhere, not only at ESC 🙁

Brian
Brian
1 year ago

This is unfortunate, but good for the delegation for calling it out. While not my fave, there’s some good performance and vocal elements. My brother (American) and sister-in-law (Brazilian) thought they were among the best 😉 And part of the fun with San Marino is seeing what they do with the acts on the big stage. Surprise us!

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Brian

Indeed! I love San Marino and I think they always punch above their weight, I’m really looking forward to seeing what they have in store 🙂

Watermelon
Watermelon
1 year ago

This is sad… ??

Marcin
Marcin
1 year ago

Must be those unbearable Kaarija fans. Trash song brings trash people. Can’t wait for it to flop in May.

Btzbtz
Btzbtz
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcin

What an ironic comment…

Aga
Aga
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcin

Your comment is exactly what we are trying to address here.

Tom
Tom
1 year ago
Reply to  Aga

Exactly

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcin

Tf is u talkin abt

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcin

Sending all the angry “Cha Cha Cha Cha Cha Cha Chaaaaaa”s to you for that one!

Leichhardtlad
Leichhardtlad
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcin

It’s people like you we’re talking about.

Marlinken
Marlinken
1 year ago

The Israeli fans sending abuse is out of control! One of these days someone is going to die.

Fatima
Fatima
1 year ago

Sadly, this is the way of the world right now. I was following the World Figure Skating Championships, and I could not believe some of the hateful messages which were registered in live chats as some of the performance unfolded. Folks, think twice before you post, I know I do.

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Fatima

It’s everywhere and it’s getting bad, yesterday, my country’s national team had a football match and everyone slandered all the players and coaching staff on social media and ppl at the stadium booed the team
Personally, I feel concerned bc I believe in freedom of speech and dissent, but this just isn’t that 🙁

Rambo Amadeus
Rambo Amadeus
1 year ago

I obviously don’t condone the behavior towards Piqued Jacks, but the San Marino delegation can’t possibly claim that their priority is music when just as recently as 2019, their grandpa Serhat brought the contest into massive disrepute? We all know your only priority has always been providing memes, certainly not music, don’t worry…

Hebbuzz
Hebbuzz
1 year ago
Reply to  Rambo Amadeus

Not to mention Achille Lauro and that act which has much to do with music as the childish Facebook song by Ralph Siegel had to do with poetry.
If we’re allowed to label crap and Kitsch songs why have a competition after all?

Oy oy
Oy oy
1 year ago

I’m sorry to say that San Marino is almost at the bottom on my list but I’m sure it’s almost on the top on someone else’s and that’s totally fine by me. ESC was made to create friendship and respect. Those who can’t live up to these standards (which is actually not difficult) should maybe consider another hobby.

Escfan
1 year ago

Honestly, I feel like especially this year the toxicity relating to certain acts or entries is getting worse and quite frankly, out of hand. Piqued Jack’s are not the only act to have received abuse from fans, Wild Youth and Blanka (and possibly others) are also getting hate (and whilst I understand the reasoning behind Blanka’s, I think pwople should focus their disapproval onto the broadcaster rather than the artist). Like I’ve said this before, regardless if a song is not your cup of tea, regardless of if you really dont like a song (and tbh this year ive about… Read more »

Rambo Amadeus
Rambo Amadeus
1 year ago
Reply to  Escfan

Oh, Sakis 2004 actually has to be the worst entry in history that ever managed to finish that high, just indefensible, amateur hour, bottom of the barrel stuff. Sakis 2009 is not much better either.

Rambo Amadeus
Rambo Amadeus
1 year ago
Reply to  Rambo Amadeus

Agreed, France, Bosnia-Herzegovina and I’ve also got to mention my winner of that edition and one of my all-time favorites in general, Estonia’s Randajad.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 year ago
Reply to  Rambo Amadeus

All of those are Durovision classics.

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  Rambo Amadeus

One of the key examples of why I don’t judge a song by the composer. Randajad is a masterpiece. Let’s Get Loud, well, isn’t.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 year ago
Reply to  Escfan

Totally agree with this, especially on Blanka.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 year ago
Reply to  Escfan

What?! Sakis’s entry was good that year! For me it was better than ‘Shake it’ and one of the best Greek acts overall!

Stephanie
1 year ago
Reply to  Escfan

Gustaph also got heckled during his performance in Barcelona, the crowd was chanting Cherine’s name in the same way they were chanting for Ronela during Piqued Jacks’ performance. The crowd shouted to Wild Youth that they would not be in the final

Karl
Karl
1 year ago

The Spanish fans in Barcelona were also throwing a lot of hate to the Irish band. They were yelling stuff like “will not qualify” and “flop” to Piqued Jacks and Wild Youth.

Not even for the fact that Spain is one of big 5 countries that qualify automatically do Spanish fans have the least modicum of respect for other contestants. Shame on them.

ChristopherP
ChristopherP
1 year ago
Reply to  Karl

As much as I am usually a fan of the Spanish acts, parts of the Spanish fandom are really problematic. Of course the vitriol that was pouring in the direction of Chanel is the best example ever but this year it’s happening towards acts from other countries and I’m like – a little humility would be in order as so far the ONLY reason there has been this reversal of Spain’s fortunes at Eurovision is that last year the international jury at Benidorm prevented you from just yet another bottom five finish.

Hebbuzz
Hebbuzz
1 year ago
Reply to  Karl

Eurovision fans from Spain, Malta, Greece and Israel are generally the worst in the audience. In my own humble opinion based on experience that is.

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Karl

Spaniards have been so full of themselves ever since Chanel got them their best result in decades, forgetting they were constantly bottom 5 not too long ago

Marlinken
Marlinken
1 year ago

Why are people sending hate to Piqued Jacks when Blanka and Noa are right there? Make it make sense.

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  Marlinken

What did poor Noa even do?

Marlinken
Marlinken
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

Nepobaby who’s family are literally occupying the West Bank. That’s not a general comment; they really are literal occupiers.

Also, really annoying fans.

Hebbuzz
Hebbuzz
1 year ago
Reply to  Marlinken

What is worse? Being a nepobaby or c*cks*cker of Christer B. ? Artists being heavily favoured because of connections is off all ages.

Jay
Jay
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

Sing a horrible Song!

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jay

Not a big fan of her song, but that’s never a reason for sending hate to anyone.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

I don’t see what’s wrong with the song. There are two good female boos this year.

Kiwicelt
Kiwicelt
1 year ago

bops? or boobs? LOL

Benito Camelo
Benito Camelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

I admire your frankness but this comment is unfortunate

Norman Fair
Norman Fair
1 year ago
Reply to  Marlinken

NOBODY deserves hate, you’ve missed the whole point of the statement

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  Norman Fair

I mean, Belarussian band that officially applied to the 2021 line-up kinda did. Not to a point of actually doing anything to them (that’s a line that should NEVER be crossed!), but to a point of sending them insults – kinda yes.

Norman Fair
Norman Fair
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

No, I kind of see where you’re coming from, we can dislike and disagree but there’s too much hatred in the world Colin. Eurovision should bring us together….

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  Norman Fair

Eurovision should bring us together. That’s why people who openly support their government which kills people should not be a part of it. Calling literal fascists bad names should be a given. So, let’s agree to disagree.

Colin
Colin
1 year ago
Reply to  Colin

PS. People who disliked my comment should wonder whether they are accidentally apologists of fascist regimes in the name of toxic positivity.

No, Manel Navarro, Piqued Jacks, Blanka or any other performer don’t deserve to be called names, but people like Polina Gagarina and that Belarussian band DO. They actually deserve much worse than just verbal insults. They deserve decades in prison. So, let’s just satisfy with words.