Photo: Keshet / Shai Franco

“October Rain,” a song that refers to the October 7 attacks in Israel, is reportedly in contention to become Eden Golan’s Eurovision 2024 song.

That’s according to Eran Swissa, a journalist at Israel Hayom. He has a track record for breaking Eurovision-related news in his country. 

He explained that the song’s producers have threatened to pull the song because of disagreements about dividing royalties.

“The chosen song was written by Avi Ohayon and Keren Peles and at the request of the [broadcasting] corporation,” he writes. “Stav Beger joined work on it only after it was written.”

Mr. Berger wants to be listed as one of the song’s producers, while Mr. Ohayon wants him to have a lesser title, which would result in smaller royalties.

“If the sides do not reach an agreement, Ohayon has threatened to withdraw the song he submitted.”

The song is mostly in English except for two lines in Hebrew.

The broadcaster won’t confirm any of the information. Responding to Israel Hayom they said: “We will not deal with such queries and publications until it is announced what the song that represents Israel is.”

October Rain: Can Israel send a politically-loaded song to Eurovision?

The news that songwriters are fighting hasn’t been the main point of discussion among international fans. Instead the focus has been on the political nature of the song title.

Fans have pointed out that the rules of the Eurovision Song Contest expressly forbid political content. That was the reason Georgia’s Eurovision 2009 entry “I Don’t Want to Put In” was banned. And that’s also why, more recently, Belarus’s 2021 entry was disqualified before Belarus was excluded from the contest. 

 

At the same time, however, others point out that political content has been allowed in the near past. Music is born of the times and reflects the feelings of those who perform it.

Ukraine’s 2016 entry, for instance, recounted the forced deportation of Crimean Tatars under Josef Stalin. That Jamala chose to sing this in the years after Russia invaded Crimea gave the song a distinct political flavour. And then there were the opening lyrics: “When strangers are coming, they come to your house, they kill you all and say, ‘We’re not guilty.'”

Jamala always maintained the song was “personal” and not political…even if the title “1944” pointed to very specific events (and atrocities). She was allowed to compete — and she won.

 

 

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Ben
Ben
2 months ago

To discuss the issue a bit more objectively and compare it to 1944, it would be necessary to see which lines exactly are being perceived as “political al” rather than the expression of a subjective experience? You can’t allow it in one case and not allow it in another case without a very clear concrete comperative analysis. To fair, the eurovision is unfortunaly getting farer and farer to be a unpolitical. The only political purpose should be to be the peace project for which it was founded after WW2, which would include to understand each other. From what I am… Read more »

brobb
brobb
2 months ago

Why include that stupid tweet from “Alice on strike”? I have no respect for people who call my country “Isra-hell”

Alex
Alex
2 months ago

Ynet has reported that EBU is considering to disqualify Israel if they do not replace this song with another one. KAN also stated that they will not replace it, even if their participation would be in jeopardy.

Wedding Cake Island
Wedding Cake Island
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

KAN & any other broadcaster in Israel needs to be banned for life. Disgustingly obscene behaviour.

Alex
Alex
2 months ago

Yes. If things stand as they are, I don’t think it’s gonna end in good terms between EBU and KAN.

Ari
Ari
2 months ago

Looks like a Georgia 2009 could happen:
https://www.ynet.co.il/entertainment/article/byuuedxnt

Efraim
Efraim
2 months ago

Welp. Imagine being the EBU, defending KAN tooth and nail for months in the middle of one of the biggest sh*tstorms of its existence, only for KAN themselves to decide to not help their own case.

Wedding Cake Island
Wedding Cake Island
2 months ago

Will Eden be physically assaulted, possibly murdered in Malmo? The chances are very high. Best she stay in her Kibbutz on the Ga*za border.

Ben
Ben
2 months ago

I am wondering that this aggressive comment has even been allowed..

Gil
Gil
2 months ago

well, israel posts get the most attention and comments, there
is no such thing bad advertising so we thank you all in advance, please continue(:

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

hey sister, dont start crying again when even more ugly boogiemen will jump over your fences.
But hey yeah, you might use that wining ESC24!!

Its amazing isnt it>?

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

If you joke on the death innocent civilians, what is your joke on whats happening in g@za? Just wondering…but we jews are not animals like you the jihadists so i will let you tell the joke about g@za but be creative…

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

I NEVER joked about any single mortal victim on either one of the camps.!!

You turn everything we say not being in your own favour full of hate and disregard on others with a other opinion.

I dont desire hearing jokes of you.
keep this hatred to our own innercircle please.

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

They got such wild takes it’s actually embarrassing…

Span
Span
2 months ago

So many anti-s@mites in the comments. disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Anna Karenina
Anna Karenina
2 months ago
Reply to  Span

People defending Israel’s genoc!de on the Palest!nians should be ashamed of themselves.

Span
Span
2 months ago
Reply to  Anna Karenina

Did you learn about that term on TikTok?

AMAAN STORM
AMAAN STORM
2 months ago
Reply to  Span

‘Anti-semites’ is a word that I see doing some serious heavy lifting in these comment sections.
Never surprises me to see Israeli’s trying anything they can to accuse people of something whilst painting themselves to be victims. Clever tactics, but it doesn’t take away the truth that Israel have been prevalent in the death and destruction of many innocent people for at least the past 50 years.

So yes, keep throwing about that fashionable term ‘anti-semite’. It makes you look desperate. Lol

Span
Span
2 months ago
Reply to  AMAAN STORM

It’s ok, the masks are off. You can just say you hate jews, as you said it’s very fashionable right now.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Span

Didnt they teach to read on school??
Probably not as you keep on hammering your oneliner mantra.
Without ever considerating what others try to explain.

“you just h@te all the Jews”

Look to yourselfs pumpkins.

Bejba
Bejba
2 months ago

Of Course “Izrael” Will Be Alowed Just Like Ukraine . Its No Rules For This Countrys And Eurowision Its A Joke Now

BoopBeep
BoopBeep
2 months ago

You need to seriously start reviewing some of these comments.

Europotato
Europotato
2 months ago
Reply to  BoopBeep

They opened the article for opinion. And it’s people making their opinion he known.

europotato
europotato
2 months ago
Reply to  Europotato

Vote me down all you want but that is the truth, why make an article about the topic with open comments for everyone to just act nonchalant about the whole fiasco.

Sun
Sun
2 months ago
Reply to  europotato

It is fascist to prohibit the free opinions of others while we demand the right to murder. This has already been seen in past history.

europotato
europotato
2 months ago
Reply to  Sun

couldnt agree more.

Europotato
Europotato
2 months ago

You have to be a special type of pathetic to send a political song to try and get a win in Eurovision. DISGUSTING.

Troy
Troy
2 months ago
Reply to  Europotato

When it’s Ukraine it’s okay but when it’s Israel then it’s not okay?

I know you are anti-Semitic, but I at least expected you to try to be less obvious.

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Troy

Because Ukraine isn’t attacking Moscow, they are just defending their territory from Russia. YOU on the other hand are targeting Palestinian civilians (who are not associated with the terrorists H@mas) from G/aza. This isn’t just a form of ethnic cleansing, but also islamophobia.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/26/europe/russia-destroys-ukrainian-drones-moscow-intl/index.html
Ukrainian droned in Moscow ^
If you think Israel is just targeting civilians, then I’m sorry, the propaganda reached to you.
H@mas is doing everything in their power to hurt more civilians so they can blame Israel.

europotato
europotato
2 months ago
Reply to  Troy

I didn’t like it when Ukraine did it but in Ukraines defence, they sent a song in an abstract way based on some events that happened 70 years ago, This is clearly a song about something that happened only months ago and its a lot more pointed, and I certainly don’t like it seeing as Israel are committing the most atrocious collective punishment imaginable. I am not anti Semitic at all, I would defend any Jewish person who I see being attacked simply for being jewish, I do not however support a government nor supporters of that government who are… Read more »

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  europotato

Wise Words.
Thank you.

Yuarith
Yuarith
2 months ago
Reply to  Europotato

I have to agree, both this and Iceland’s antic just make things around ESC awkward

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuarith

At least there are some counter arguments also on the ESC platform from a participation EBU member.
And rightly so.
Wipping thousands innocent civilians off the earth does make ESC24 a bit awkward isnt it??

Noooo, its not gonna destroy my eurovision 2024 experience.
They are just Collateral damage. They started it first and well our tv stated the following………………………

Every heard about George Orwells Animal farm??

Voila there you have it. Live on screen. 24/7
DISGUSTING.
Shame on you.

#3minutesblank.

europotato
europotato
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuarith

We know what Iceland are doing for sure. Why this year sending a Palestinian guy? However, the song he is singing at least is a normal non political song.

Elizabeth
Elizabeth
2 months ago

Ok but the funniest outcome of all of this would be if the EBU did all of that, defending Israel’s participation, and they just belarussed themselves anyway.

Sometimes
Sometimes
2 months ago
Reply to  Elizabeth

I hope that will be the case!

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Elizabeth

Its the hanging fruit in the basket news on the ESC24 right now.
Just waiting for the official confirmation of EBU or KAN.

Hope all eurovision websites are getting less toxic in the comment sections if this will be made official?

The misery and wars arent over as of yet , only lets celebrate ESC24 in somewhat positive manner!!

Mqe
Mqe
2 months ago

They are literally taking the piss in exactly the way we always knew they would if they were allowed to participate. Disgusting.

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  Mqe

“ exactly the way WE always knew “
Who is “we”?

Mqe
Mqe
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

Decent human beings who oppose Israel’s far right propaganda and w4r cr1mes?

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  Mqe

Since when antisemitis become” decent” ? you taking about propaganda?
i ask some here and refuse to answer I hope you will Does Israel have a right to self-defense?
Who started a cruel brutal and barbaric war against civilians on 7/10/23?it was Israel? Who violated the ceasefire in early December?
And finally
Do you recognize Israel’s right to exist in its sovereign territory?

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

Definitely not you Benjamin supporter

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Never voted for him ( Benjamin Netanyahu)

Boo
Boo
2 months ago

People here are so dumb.

Thallo
Thallo
2 months ago
Reply to  Boo

We wouldn’t have to tolerate these dumb comments if Israel was banned.

These endless arguments between zionists and Palestin*an supporters lead nowhere. Eurovision has never been this divided, ever. Banning Israel is the only solution.

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  Thallo

A few questions for you and I would be happy if you could answer them:
Does Israel have a right to self-defense?
Who started a cruel, cruel and barbaric war against civilians on 7/10/23? Were you Israel? Who violated the ceasefire in early December?
And finally
Do you recognize Israel’s right to exist in its sovereign territory?

Sometimes
Sometimes
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

Killing thousands and thousands of children and leaving rest without homes and to starve…. well i don’t know about you, but for me thats not how selfdefence looks like.

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Sometimes

THIS!!!

Bejba
Bejba
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

I Answer For Him .
1. No Because They Attack First . I Question For You : Did Your Favourite NATO Have A Right To “Self Defend” Against Serbia , Afganistan , Iraq , Syria … ??
2. The War Started Long Ago
3. Who Colonize Palestine Land And Are Imperialist Evil Empire ??
4. No

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  Bejba

1 Israel attacked first on 7/10/23? Are you sure? Maybe you should think again?
2- Is Israel the one that violated the ceasefire? Maybe you should consult with Anthony Blinken, the US Secretary of Defense, maybe he can help you if you are having trouble.
3- Israel is not imperialist, it is a sovereign country that most countries of the world recognize, including Arab countries such as Egypt, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and Morocco, and even the Palestinians recognized its sovereignty in the Oslo Accords.
4- Finally your anti-Semitism is revealed.

Melissa
Melissa
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

Palestine doesn’t even participate in the competition so it’s not unfair to ban Israel…

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago

259 comments claiming to understand a song based on the title of the song without hearing the song and without knowing what the words are – sounds ridiculous to me.

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

Tell me what was Galasy Zmesta’s “Song About Hares”, their 2nd song for ESC 2021.

Gil
Gil
2 months ago

there are commentors that use the word gen@cide as a fact for whats happening in g@za while even the international court of justice rejected this claim…lol, so are you exactly? just wondering, actually i do know who you are(: wont help you….israel will win the war and eurovision

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

If Israel wins ESC24, they have at least enough space in the flattened distict G area building the biggest ESC Arena ever.

Its a pity tho that nobody will show up in 2025 except Belarus and Azerbijan.

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

lol

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

A day not laughed is a day not lived isnt it??
Great you guys have such a refined sense of cold and deadly humor.
Sure you will win ESC24. OFC……………………………hahahahaha

Owe im sorrry being sarcastic now!!

israeli pov
israeli pov
2 months ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

lol…

Thallo
Thallo
2 months ago

I’m just so tired and disappointed.

I’m disappointed in the EBU for not taking a stance against Israel or its broadcaster, I’m tired of the constant debates with Zionists and I’m disappointed that my favorite event of the year will be corrupted by whatever propaganda Israel sends.

Eurovision this year doesn’t feel as exciting. This is a time to be united through music, but it feels like the most divisive year to date. Ban Israel now.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Thallo

You’re disappointed your music contest will be corrupted because we’re there?
Our holiday was corrupted because a ge0nicdal organization invaded our country and m@ssacred us horribly.
So I’m sorry you feel like you won’t enjoy Eurovision this much, but some of us are trying to get rid of a literal threat on their lives, you whiny baby.
Also, if you believe Jews deserve a country, you’re a zionist as well.
If not, you’re antisemitic.
Decide which one you are.

StuH
StuH
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Why are you so adamant in entering a competition where no one wants you there? Who is going to vote for Israel?

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

First of all, speak for yourself.
Secondly, we’ve been competing for 50 years and we have no reason to quit now.
Believe it or not, Israel shares the same values as the west and we believe in the values of Eurovision.
I don’t know what makes people so vocal about Israel and not against other countries committing actual atrocities, but that’s a different discussion.

StuH
StuH
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Only Israel wants Israel in the competition. We are Russia was banned, because you are a western created entity Israel has been allowed to commit g3n0c1de without punishment. The hypocrisy is obvious.

Facts
Facts
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

Russia is an imperialistic terrorist state, Israel is not.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Facts

Isaerli AI technology weapon sales went up drasticly after the start of the counterattacks in oct ’23.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

Once again, according to the official definition of gen0cide, Israel is not committing it, but we will leave it to the ICJ to decide.
Once again as well, speak for yourself.

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

Israel was attacked and has the right to defend itself, not even Israel violated the cease fire at the beginning of December.

Melissa
Melissa
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

Who was responsible for the Oslo accords failing? Who was assassinated by WHO and who was the person who committed the act connected to?

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  Melissa

would be happy if you tell me who really violated the Oslo agreements? Maybe it’s better if you start with who Yasser Arafat hid in the car, how long did he arrive in Judea and Samaria after he signed the agreement, which clearly proves his intention?

Wedding Cake Island
Wedding Cake Island
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

The gen0cidal organization is Israel. The country is literally facing trial at The International Criminal Court for gen0cide. I’d go further and say Israel is a terr0rist state. Both the Government and the population who keeps voting for these psychopathic leaders.
Attempts at silencing the majority by calling us antisemitic no longer works. We don’t care. The gloves are off.

Gil
Gil
2 months ago

hi hitler how are you?

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago

If a person stands trial for something, does it mean they’re guilty? I didn’t know you think everyone’s guilty right away, how awful.
We could spend all day discussing the official definition of gen0cide and I could prove you it’s not the reality right now, but you wouldn’t listen anyway.
I feel sorry for you. Spend less time on TikTok.
Also, we don’t use antisemitism because it’s the easy choise – but because it’s true, occasionaly.
If you close your eyes and look away when antisemitism shows up, you will just be a partner for the next victim.

Thallo
Thallo
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Antizionist does not equal antisemitic.

The European people don’t want your ”country” at Eurovision.

It’s that simple.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Thallo

Zionism is about the right of Jews to have their own country in their homeland like every other nation in the world.
If you accept all BUT the Jewish state, it does make you an antisemite, sorry.

Thallo
Thallo
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Zionism is a colonial project. Israel is a settler state.

The Israeli government is disgusting, illegal settlers are disgusting, and extremist nationalist Israelis are disgusting. It’s their actions I hate, not their faith.

Criticism of Israel’s genoc*de of the Palestinian nation is not antisemitic.

Europotato
Europotato
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

The EBU or us weren’t involved in October 7th. So why don’t you do us all a favour and stop shoving it down our throats?

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Europotato

I’m sorry, have you had enough hearing about the m@assacre we’ve been through?
Next time we’ll just stay quiet about it and just die or something.

Melissa
Melissa
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

No one “deserves” an ethnostate and no one should work towards building an ethnostate.

Melissa
Melissa
2 months ago
Reply to  Melissa

My comment being downvoted, out of context, looks like only nazis use this site and only they would get mad at me stating simple facts like “Ethnostates are bad”. This would be hilarious if this botting and blind fanaticism wasn’t so sad that people don’t realize they’re wrongfully angry about something like this.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Melissa

People have the right to have a country for their group, and so do the Jewish people.
If you ask me, so do the Palestinians, obviously.
So what are you trying to say exactly?

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Ever heard about ‘Apartheid’??
Finally that construct failed to excist.

Mqe
Mqe
2 months ago
Reply to  Thallo

I am seriously debating sitting this one out if things continue this way. Which to a fan is hurtful, but not nearly as hurtful as the horrors that are being committed with total impunity.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Mqe

Wise words.
Im with you.

And I will listen soon the songs of Musti and Baby Lasgana being released 2day.
As i do with all the countries participating on ESC editions.
Thats a big joy and source of entertainment and irritation ofc.
But that is what make the cake so delicious.

Year after year in the end of winter begining spring.
EUROVISION time……………………

This year a have a bad taste in my mouth from the cake.
Some souls dont even have rotten cake feeding themselfs, their children, family or friends.

Building a Tower of Sand.
Waterloo.

ESC 2024, “Een Beetje”

KaarijaEnthusiast
KaarijaEnthusiast
2 months ago

Idk who needs to hear this but not voting for Israel will not free Palestine, saying Israel should not participate will not free Palestine, sending hate towards Eden will not free Palestine, boycotting Eurovision will not free Palestine, and speculating over the political meaning of a song will also not free Palestine. Enjoying filling yourself with hate while doing absolutely nothing effective.

StuH
StuH
2 months ago

Lol do you enjoy 30000 children and women being murdered, with more to come soon with the Rafah attack?

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

Yeah and out of 30000 there are not even 1 h@m@s ter*rist right? Israel is fighting ghosts tbat never die, correct? You are so dumb gosh…

StuH
StuH
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

Yawn. Israeli propaganda bot.

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

so answer my question…its hard ahhh?

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

You dont ask questions pumkin. You are only pushing your visions on others who are defiant with yours. I thought that ought being a tactic in the USSR back than, yah know?? Pot and kettle. Both black……………… Owe o now I get labelled online as anti-semitic!! Who cares!! Good nite my lillies. Hope you sleep well!! Over the h0rrors of soo many dying humans on the other side of the fence. Yeah, I know they started it and for you its just a pretty day out in the park. Well well, we will see. They say Karma is a Biatch… Read more »

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

what exactly you do,
Antisemiti propaganda?

Europotato
Europotato
2 months ago

Aye but not voting for Israel will help them not win. And that’s a win in my eyes.

Melissa
Melissa
2 months ago

And letting Israel participate will let them spread whatever view of the world they believe is right even if it’s a lie. Sorry. It’s not fair people responsible for tens of thousands of murders is in any way justified as a reaction.

StuH
StuH
2 months ago

Well done Brazil for their true comments about Israel. Time the west grew a backbone and send the right message to the world.

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

Israel’s Foreign Minister Israel Katz took the Brazilian ambassador to Israel to the Yesh Vashem Hall, which is an official statutory institution for commemorating the Holocaust in Israel, located above the Mount of Remembrance in Jerusalem, in the western part of Mount Herzl. , where Brazil received a sharp rebuke for the outrageous comparison of the president of Brazil, many in Brazil were outraged by this debunked and outrageous comparison.

StuH
StuH
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

Why, because the holocaust was committed against Jews, doesn’t mean it is something you are doing now? Is Israel immune to the atrocities it is committing somehow, because its a creation of the west?

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

War is an ugly thing, but not every war can be called gen0cide.
You people should really stop making this huge term so cheap.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

You are calling the death of 28.000+ souls and the inmense human suffering of aprox 2.000.000 humans cheap? This is exactly what a regime in the 30’s in Europe did, when you where the victems in droves. May God have merci on theit Souls. Isnt this called The Stockholm syndrom?? Correct me if Im wrong, + all the israeli bott downvotes and all those names you love to trow at ANY who have critics on whats happening now in Israel, District G and on the West-B@nk. Owe yeah and I forget your most friendly and human militairy forces are also… Read more »

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

I’m not saying anything cheap about the war, but using the term gen0cide about a regular war is indeed cheap. When you see a real one, you’ll know it for sure, and it’s just not this war. Go read the official definition of gen0cide, it’s literally not what Israel is doing there and this is also why the ICJ didn’t tell Israel to stop. Yes, Israel also attacks in other countries, who are also attacking us, so what’s your point? Should we let them? We don’t need them to have tunnels, they got better weapons. Lebanon’s Hezb0llah literally wanted to… Read more »

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Are Iran, Syria, Lebanon or Iraq real treats for you? The regime in Lebanon is trying not much escalating the conflict at their southern borders. As the country is economically weak, still recovering from the attacks of Israel in 2006. Also the leadership appears not being strong. Iraq has become a failed stated since the western invasions in 2003. Iran under the extremist religious mullahs are under heavey western sanctions since many years, Syria is suffering from a horrendous civil war for about 10+ years. All ruined countries with suffering populations, weak economies and insufficent good leadership. Israel has one… Read more »

Jane Harrison
Jane Harrison
1 month ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

Can someone please translate the above into English? Thank you.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

Applause for a western leader, tho Brazil belongs more to the BRICS block of countries opening his mouth about the current onslaught.

More political figures will follow swift.
Mark my words.

israeli pov
israeli pov
2 months ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

lola is not the guy that was in prison ? lol…you make my day with your comments .

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  israeli pov

ever heard about Nelson Mandela………………??

He used being a political prisoner for many years.

Becoming the first elected South African President of color.
After the plight of Freedom for the surpressed Peoples.

So looking at their example I would like to underline that we have Hopes and Prayers on your troubled Lands.

PEACE

Yuarith
Yuarith
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

Lula is a fkn clown tho

StuH
StuH
2 months ago

Ban Israel now

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  StuH

Ban yourself

Gil
Gil
2 months ago

Oh la la, Eden gonna burn the stage so hard…so obvious.. enjoy europe, israel sent a diamond this year

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

It hurts you nazis? That israel will win it? That is great, love it

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

In what for Institution for mental dissablity are you getting your meds? maybe they should up the dose??

AMAAN STORM
AMAAN STORM
2 months ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

It’s called ‘delusion’, and this Gil character is full of it! Bless them. Let them have their moment. They’re just acting defiant because they know that they could send their biggest artist and they still won’t win. Lol. Nobody wants them.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  AMAAN STORM

Thanks fellow Human in sharing the good energy amongst us in these dire times.

It appears today in the online media that theres a dispute going on between EBU and KAN.
So lets wait and see what the official confirmation will be.

And even if Eden cant carry their vlague on the ESC24 stage.
I dont think our israeli ESC trolls will leave our ESC pages online.

Lets wait and see.

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

See you in may, dont forget to bring the israeli flag…

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

owe, yeah I saw those toiletpaper thing online with exactly the same print.

Awesome idea.

Roy
Roy
2 months ago

And I will tell you that… Israel will not be banned no matter what.. cause RC and moroccanoil are in control by jews and Israelis.. so save your words and voice.. it means nothing… thank you!

Rory
Rory
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy

This sounds kind of antisemitic ….

AMAAN STORM
AMAAN STORM
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy

Like the majority of the media that pedals pro-Israel propaganda. Now there’s a surprise!

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy

heee pumpkin, do you have the same speechwriter as the leader of R ussia?

Iván el Conquistador
Iván el Conquistador
2 months ago

The song is going to be “please goyim, support our song and pretend for three minutes Israel doesn’t hate you and see you as beasts”

Gil
Gil
2 months ago

i trust israeli writers to pass the message while still passing the EBU test, israeli lawyer checked the lyrics and approved them, israelis know how to do the job….now wait until the winning song of eurovision is out…no one can be better than eden golan in this contest because its Eden, 1 of a billion singer, thats the only reason, and the song of course, keren+avi+stav begger – Toy writer and producer, this must be a winning song

Sometimes
Sometimes
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

You are so delusional that its not even funny

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Sometimes

Will see on the final, when eden will amaze everyone, we are talking here on adele, byonce level here..watch and learn…you dont get it yet but you will, Eden is a world wide star in the making

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

She only chooses the wrong country representing considering the current geopolitical situation Im afraid.

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

BEYONCE LEVEL LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

No seriously, Eden is nowhere near her pls this comparison just sent me into orbit.

AMAAN STORM
AMAAN STORM
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

I’m howling!

Roy
Roy
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

I am even more excited to hear that song.. love the title! Totally “in your face” move to the haters and I’m here for it!

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy

Yeah, as it should…but eden and the song will be that amazing without connection to anything…Eden is a star

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy

hahahaha, OMG.
See the haters being delusional. Haters gonna hate.
Voila, here you are my pumpkins.

Its really becoming a FREAKshow what you are doing!!

Unbelievable.

Melissa
Melissa
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

“X Israeli pop star, 1 of a billion singer, thats the only reason” you people say this for every representative each year come on now get a new copypasta already.

Also, the rabbithole about her family all being based in Russia until 2022 and then they left to Israel while her family still does their business in Russia is a little interesting… She even tried to represent Russia in JESC in the 2010’s…

AMAAN STORM
AMAAN STORM
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

The same was said about Noa Kirel last year and surprise surprise, despite throwing EVERYTHING at the song and performance, they STILL didn’t win LOL.
This year there is so much more disdain for Israel that she is going to tank. And I can’t wait! I’ve already screenshotted these comments to come back to just to die of laughter at your delusions!

MartyMcCu
MartyMcCu
2 months ago

Please hear me out, this is a personal opinion, so please don’t start accusing me of being antisemitic because, before you do, I want to clarify that I am Jewish. I agree Israel has the right to participate, like every year. However, I think this year they should not use the contest as a propaganda platform for whitewashing, pink washing, or dragging Europe into this dreadful conflict. If Israel proceeds to the final this year, it should be based on the public vote and support for the song, not on Israel’s stance in the conflict. However, my concern is with… Read more »

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  MartyMcCu

Israel is allowed to sing about their painful moments and it’s not propaganda.
Moreover, you don’t want Israel to drag Europe into this conflict – the reality is that European countries are dragging themselves into it, thinking they are all experts without living with a threat right next door.
I’m mostly surprised by Finnish people, who do live next to a threat.
I don’t want them to wake up only after they’re attacked.

MartyMcCu
MartyMcCu
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

I disagree with you, very much considering this as propaganda and it doesn’t really have a place any more in a democratic Europe. It’s old school, but unfortunately, it still exists not just in Israel. Europe will make their decision in May and we will see. if Israel fails to qualify then a strong message will be made by Europe. You never know until May this may very well change. Another thing is the singer representing Israel is also Russian and has performed in an occupied Crimea. This is not going to go down well either in some countries. Just… Read more »

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

You blame us being utterly clueless about your countries situation concerning threats.
Whilst you forget to mention that we also had major attacks on our soil in Europe, Munich, Berlin, Paris, London, Madrid, Belgium.

Your delusion is sickening.
Take the blue pill

Dawid
Dawid
2 months ago

If so, they should get Belarus treatment

Raz
Raz
2 months ago

Sure.
“Rain” is the name of a prayer for rain recited on the Jewish holiday of Shemini Atzeret at October.
In addition to that, the month of October is already winter. It rains in winter…

Gil
Gil
2 months ago

Yummy yummy, the winning song is out soon….

Roy
Roy
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

Cant wait

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy

Yay

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy

And i lije tge downgrades of the haters, they know its gonna be amazing and tgey eat their heart…lol

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

Owe, darling i just got an app from friends in District G.

They live in Europe only were visiting family for a wedding.
Now they bringing them to their graves and the survivors hardly can get out . The next safe area is also under heavy fire, whilst they are almost in Egypt………………………..

Yeah, haters gonna hate!!

With Love from Russia my pumpkins.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

Take the blue pill, owe no wait the RED one…………………………..

Roy
Roy
2 months ago

So what have the haters of Israel achieved so far? Absolutely nothing. 🙂
1. Israel will participate in Eurovision
2. Israel up in odds
3. Meanwhile, no contestant has withdrawn from the competition because of Israel
4. Haters of Israel down in odds
Thank you.. Next!

israeli pov
israeli pov
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy

no contestant will withdrawn , hate us is good for PR., its magic..

Rory
Rory
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy

“Hates” meaning here “people with a basic sense of decency and disgust at massive collective punishment campaign meted out against innocent children” – history will judge Isreal harshly for this.

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Rory

Lol…you are so clueless, its really funny…and the fact that you think that you know what you are talking about is even funnier…the fact that you dont even mention october 7 says where are you coming from…for people like israel sent the winning song october rain, in your face

israeli pov
israeli pov
2 months ago
Reply to  Rory

people with a sense of decency don’t kidnaped one year baby old…snd you support them , so dont give me tips ..
history as always will judge the white Europeans for the hate of jews…

AMAAN STORM
AMAAN STORM
2 months ago

What it boils down to is the fact that the EBU need to man up and create an enforceable rule on people using war, atrocities and political events as subject matter for songs at Eurovision. There are many, many other subjects that people can use for inspiration, it’s literally so cringe when people go for the obvious just to try to: A) Garner sympathy. B) Use their 3 minutes as a platform to broadcast propaganda. C) Bringing more danger to civilians by singing about their version of a tragedy which could trigger the opposition further in to a rage. That’s… Read more »

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  AMAAN STORM

Eurovision has always been a mirror of ongoing events in Europe and beyond.
If Israelis want to express their pain, it’s ok. No one has to vote for it, there’s barely any sympathy with Israel anyway.
Israel is done being the weak country thats needs sympathy, just acknowledge our pain instead of trying to deny it, like many people do.

AMAAN STORM
AMAAN STORM
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

It was created as a way of bringing countries together….a form of unity despite all the boundaries and cultural differences. Its never been a ‘Mirror of what’s happening in Europe and beyond’. Thats just a BS excuse to infiltrate the contest with politics and propaganda, which is against the rules of the EBU. If they literally took charge and banned all references to war, politics and propaganda then it would be a much fairer and kinder place. Sadly the EBU are so vague, and choose to pander to the countries that they want to pander to. The rules simply need… Read more »

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  AMAAN STORM

Huge applause!!!
Well said.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  AMAAN STORM

My dear fellow Human.
Wise words spoken.

I couldnt have expressed it beter.

Waterloo 2024.
Its an Anniversary surprise party.
Who knows??

Dancing on the vulcano could be very hot!

Wedding Cake Island
Wedding Cake Island
2 months ago

Eden Golan performed in Crimea after the annexation so for that reason alone, she should rot in the semis.

Gil
Gil
2 months ago

yeah, you judge a kid that never decided for himself? shame on you

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

owe eden is a him??
Funny, your media didnt mention that.
OK, 2 extra points in the SF.Another non binary?
But Bambie has more expression imo.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago

So no one is allowed to perform there nowadays?
Let alone how there is no rule about it in Eurovision.
If there is no rule about performing in Crimea and then going to Eurovision but you still think she should be banned or stay in the semis, that’s plain dictatorship, where rules don’t matter.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Hey pumpkin!!
Thats a perfect catch22 you created here.

You folks are masters in doing that NON-stop!!

Sing a song!!

Devito
Devito
2 months ago

Spread love, peace, and the message to not vote for israel in May since Eden Golan is a Russian-Israeli singer who lived most of her life in Russia and ran away with her family from there not because of a sudden realization of what the regime is doing but fearing the war on her doorbell and being sanctioned from using all the goods the West can offer, including this contest. The EBU mafia did nothing to stop it; let’s make justice ourselves by leaving israel in the semi.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Devito

Eden moved to Russia because of her dad’s job and they came back to Israel because it’s their home. How can you call to spread love when you’re spreading hate? Do you really want to blame Eden when she was a child for Putin’s actions? Are you for real? Do you really think all Russians support Putin? Israel is a country full of Russians, along many other nationalities, because we are Jews, so there’s nothing wrong with her roots. She might be Russian, but she isn’t Putin. The hypocrisy is celebrating here with your comment. Also, going against Israel in… Read more »

Devito
Devito
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Why do you even care what some random guy on the Internet is thinking (ever heard about free speech, eh?)? Let alone whether Israel will do well in Eurovision or not. I thought you had bigger problems, such as killing thousands of innocent children for the sake of some dozens of terrorists to be killed in the process. See, if there was no war in Europe, we’d probably buy your crap, but now more and more people in Europe realize you’re acting like a bunch of Nazis with Putlerist methods.

Sometimes
Sometimes
2 months ago
Reply to  Devito

Well said Devito, i agree 100%

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Devito

Why wouldn’t I care when people are spreading lies and hatred about me and my country after being attacked?
How would you feel if it were you?
You guys in Europe just forgot what wars are like, they are horrible and cruel.
The moment the next war in Europe will begin, don’t you dare to try and get sympathy from us, we will sit aside and just criticise you for defending yourselves.
You’re acting as if we are just targeting innocent people. Honey, that’s just twisting the reality.
Not everything you hear on TikTok is the truth.

Thanos
Thanos
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

I mean it’s one thing to not want to go against your country for whatever reason and I never expect that in advance from anyone because of the dangers it involves, but going as far as trying to deny that what is being done right now (and for nearly a century now) is wrong really blows my mind. With that position, you guys alone are making it hard for others to sympathise with you.
While at the same time, I have immense respect and solidarity for Israeli people who oppose the current actions, while fearing tremendous backlash from the government.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Thanos

Bro, we don’t live in a dictatorship, many people here, myself included, have different kinds of criticisms about the government, no one is afraid and no one is being persecuted by the government. You don’t even know my opinions about the whole conflict, but you definitely assume you do. Israeli people are just done with the westplaining, when people think they know better than us. Any one of those 1200 on October 7th could have been me, so forgive me for fully supporting the war against H@mas. My hope for the future is a Palestinian state, because I’m done hearing… Read more »

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

No, your are speaking absolute garbage here. YOU, the zionist regime and its supporters. I think not all Israeli and Jewisch citiziens might agree with the current policies of the Regime. Those mass demonstrations against the Bibbi Regime in the 100K’s, over the last 6 months. Even before the oct23 attacks , 100 thousands took it to the israeli streets voicing their anger against those impending restriction of the Higher Court as Israel has no Constitution, in making the Regime has the principal rulling over new Laws. The only Democracy in the Middle East……………………?? I dont use Tik tok btw!!… Read more »

israeli pov
israeli pov
2 months ago
Reply to  Devito

ask yourself the same question, why you care what random guy is replying to you ?

my guess you don’t have a life…you are lonely and full of hate.. sad

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Devito

+100

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Devito

As we say in israel, no brain no worries

Devito
Devito
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

And yet you’re there on the Internet, smartpants.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Gil

Ha, thats why you fols cant think about what your State is doing on behalf of your peoples!!??

I get now!!

Kor
Kor
2 months ago

Russia being banned and Israel not, are a technically a bit different issues. Considering sanctions, EBU and Russian TV would not be able to conduct business, while there are no sanctions against Israel.

Comparing Jamala, 1944 (and I am even not a fan of that song), and some potential song that references events that are still ongoing, is not really possible.

If Israel does send a song like that, it could very well backfire, considering overall sentiment to current events, therefore even if it is good could stay in semifinal as its televote only!

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Kor

I just wanna talk about the voting really quick.
People who decide not to vote for Israel no matter what, will just vote to different countries, their votes will split.
People who decide to vote for Israel no matter what, will boost them significantly.
I don’t think it will be effective to not vote for Israel.

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago

How do you know this is a political song? According to the name of the song? did you hear him?Did you read the lyrics?
I understand that the European Broadcasting Union approved the song

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

I read they used having a glitch in their systems.

CagardiB
CagardiB
2 months ago

Since ESC is not taking Israel’s role seriously and failing to acknowledge the ongoing conflict the same way they did with Russia, I hope we see our artists take a stance against this injustice. We will be watching how you use your platform to call out them.

Israel SHOULD not be allowed. And we should be more critical about how EBU portrays foreign political affairs. This isn’t about the individual, although I have nothing against her and her entry (unless it’s a piece of propaganda).

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  CagardiB

Since Israel is planning a Rafah offensive for March 10th, I think that event will be the catalyst for their eventual exclusion from the contest.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Isn’t it part of the strip? With H@mas people? With our hostages there? It’s not special…
I hope it ends quickly with as few as possible casualties of innocent people.
I don’t know where you get that date from, but it’s definitely coming soon

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Ask your war cabinet member Benny Gantz regarding the deadline day.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

I heard what he said, the main thing is not the date as to say they will begin the operation in Rafah that day.
The point of it is to make sure they know we will not stop because of Ramadan, because we still have hostages there and the threat of H@mas.
I’ll just remind you how they attacked us on a holiday, on Sabbath.

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Revenge will not solve anything by suddenly becoming islamophobic and obliterate absolutely every inch of Rafah.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Another 100% catch22 here.

So you say you dont delay more att@cks because of Ramadan.

But boohhoo hooooo, how much so you screamed to the world you were attacked on one of your important days in your calendar………………??

May God have merci on all their Souls.

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Are you kidding me with this ?Benny Gantz said what ?
And he gave an exact date when exactly to enter Rafah and he told you that? Benny Gantz does not decide things by himself, there is a security cabinet, he is just one of them.
He also told you what time they will enter the Rafah?

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

That’s? A? Lot? Of? Questions? For? Trying? To? Play? Dumb?

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Wait!! lets play hide and seek.
Thats such a fun game at the picknick in the park!!

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

no reason to be surprised, alex cares only for jihadists that are killed

Gil
Gil
2 months ago
Reply to  CagardiB

lol

Alex
Alex
2 months ago

Eden’s team is making such a wrong move here it’s actually a red flag. Imagine profiting from a terrorist attack and deliberately make a song out of it to compete in ESC. It doesn’t sound right to me. It’s actually offensive for the relatives of people who died on 7/10.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Yes. This, totally! It’s not respectable at all!

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

The people of Israel want to talk about it. The relatives of the victims wouldn’t feel comfortable if we sang about something casual during these tough times.
This is a national project this year, not quite Eden’s thing only

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

the Sound of Silence who have been the best option for all parties involved.

Ellen
Ellen
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Jamala and Genealogy literally did the same thing and their song weren’t about themselves

AMAAN STORM
AMAAN STORM
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

I think they’ve seen the empathy piled on Ukraine in the ESC and they fancy the same treatment.
Unfortunately for Israel it isn’t warranted.

I feel for everyone caught up in this conflict on both sides. There is nothing more corrupt and blood thirsty than the government’s we empower. They’re the ones who draw us in to these situations. And I hope that Israel don’t try and capitalise off it as that would be tasteless.

Tato-51100
Tato-51100
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

I actually don’t really want Israel to send a political song to ESC but you can’t say they’re profiting from a terrorist attack here…
Just look at France 2015 that sent a song named “Don’t forget” just after the terrorist attacks.. They didn’t profited from that

StuH
StuH
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Lol I mean do you not know Israel by now. Throw them out

Yuval
Yuval
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

It doesn’t sound right to you? It’s offensive for the relatives of people who died on 7/10?
A song that you never heard and you don’t know the lyrics and ‘affesive the relatives of who died? Did you talk with them and ask?

Alex
Alex
2 months ago
Reply to  Yuval

Yes bro I got them here on the phone line!!

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago

I knew it! I knew Israel were planning to do a Ukraine and try and get sympathy votes! But it’s not gonna work this time because most of us have turned against them!

Israel should be ashamed of themselves for trying to puppeteer Eden into singing what is CLEARLY a political song just from the title. Why is Mr Osterdahl not banning them already? He is being paid by Israel.

Alex
Alex
2 months ago

Fr now, and it will get worse when they begin the Rafah ground offensive on 10th March. They’re losing more and more global support.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Even from a neutral stance you cant help but feel they’ll be overwhelmed in May. If they’re suffering so much, why spend so much money or send the effort to Eurovision in the first place?

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Definitely this is happening Globally. Support from the west is decling for this war. Massive demonstrations against the massacres being commited in the ME. Governments and political leaders speaking up in public. Its about time isnt it? Enough is enough. ( yeah and was saying this after 9/11, and in 2003 Iraq or 2010 Libya etc etc. Anytime peoples are driven into death, misery and chaos I try to vent my anger online, or I made artworks, I didt do demonstrations of all kind, somethimes I donated money for the just cause.) What can we do more>? Asking eacother for… Read more »

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago

Eden herself wants to talk about the horrible attack on Israelis on October 7th, no one is forcing her to do anything.
Since when is pain a political thing? Can’t talk about our pain? Shame on you.
Also, Israel have always said the song will talk about the war, so like, you didn’t really find something amazing justifying you saying “I knew it”…
Sympathy votes aren’t our thing, we just want our voice to be heard and acknowledge the attack, on a stage with many people trying to deny what happened.

AMAAN STORM
AMAAN STORM
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

Youre just not getting it! Acknowledge the attack on the news channels, not a light hearted entertainment show! This is not a platform for that. It was born out of peace and unity and was created with no political commentary in mind, yet countries feel like they have a right to hi-jack the competition to speak about the situations in their countries. Its not for that. And why are countries so hell bent on entering an entertainment show whilst wars rage in their countries where many civilians have died? I just cant understand this logic? Is there nothing better for… Read more »

Despicable Annie
Despicable Annie
2 months ago

If it’s a bop, the haters will all be secretly stanning. I hope it’s a great song!

Rory
Rory
2 months ago

By “haters” do you mean “people who are disgusted by a country actively pursing a massive campaign of collective punishment against innocent children participating in Eurovision”?

Despicable Annie
Despicable Annie
2 months ago
Reply to  Rory

More like self-hating gays who only see this situation black or white and will blindly support the country where they would never be welcomed.

Rory
Rory
2 months ago

Your username is very accurate. Ukraine is not exactly nirvana for gay people either, yet no-one criticises us for supporting Ukraine. Do you think there are no LGBTQ+ victims within the almost 30,000 that Israel have massacred over the past couple of months?

Despicable Annie
Despicable Annie
2 months ago
Reply to  Rory

A perfect example of only seeing things black or white right here: comparing this situation to Ukraine’s. Well done, Rory! And guess what, Ukraine supports Israel in this situation, not the Russia-backed t-words!

Rory
Rory
2 months ago

I’m comparing the reaction, no-one was criticising gay people or black people or Muslims etc. for supporting Ukraine, even though the country has extensive problems with racism and homophobia. So why do you suddenly use it as a weapon?

Despicable Annie
Despicable Annie
2 months ago
Reply to  Rory

Probably because Russia’s problems with the same groups are FAR worse, so said minorities chose the lesser evil. In this case, it’s about blindly supporting a country that would k-word you if it could just based on your sexuality.

Rory
Rory
2 months ago

Or maybe, gay people don’t base all of their decisions off of the perception they have of a countries stance on LGBTQ issues. You are saying we should blindly support Israel’s mass collective punishment just because they have some better policies? Their bombs are killing queer p alestinians just as easily as straight ones.

Despicable Annie
Despicable Annie
2 months ago
Reply to  Rory

Right, many of us base their decisions on lack of self-respect. Siding with Hama$… no words!

Yep
Yep
2 months ago
Reply to  Rory

Well, in arab nations you literally can’t be a member of LGBTQ+, no one allows that.

Ellen
Ellen
2 months ago
Reply to  Rory

*a Government chief

Sarah
Sarah
2 months ago

Thank you for seeing the truth

Alex
Alex
2 months ago

Calling this song a “bop” which is about a day where over a thousand people died is like dropping the letter G from the “Graveyard” sign.

AMAAN STORM
AMAAN STORM
2 months ago

The fact you merely mention the words ‘government’ and ‘backing’ shows how much of a brainwashed sheep you really are.

It’s because of the government’s that the civilians have been drawn in to this situation in the first place. The greed, the pig-headedness, the self entitlement, and the power hungry. The fact you think that they are somehow your saviours means that you earned your username.

Perhaps open your eyes and literally see things holistically before being drawn in to something as treacherous as this situation.

Sometimes
Sometimes
2 months ago

They should be banned from Eurovision and not be able to send their propaganda song!

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Sometimes

Have you heard the song? Because you clearly seem to already know what it’s about…
If it’s just a song about the Israeli pain of October 7th, is it still propaganda?
If so, we can also call the Palestinian pain propaganda, right?
But it’s not – pain is just pain, and it’s everywhere.
If you can’t sympathise with Israeli pain, you just don’t care about Israelis.

Sometimes
Sometimes
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

If you can’t see why a song with that tile would be a
bad taste while Palestine people still suffer from ongoing geno.cide,
then thats a You problem

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago
Reply to  Sometimes

I’m not a huge fan of the title, but the lyrics are the important part. While you see the suffering of Palestinians only, I see the suffering of both of us. Inevitably, mostly my own side as well, as those attacks could have been against me. As one of the rockets could have hit me. If you really want me to give you the official definition of gen0cide and the reality, I can do that. There is no gen0cide there, just war, which isn’t a pretty thing to see, but the differences are major. So, if you can’t see the… Read more »

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago
Reply to  Roy Moreno

The song is called ‘October Rain’. We all know what it’s gonna be about. This can’t be a coincidence.

Roy Moreno
Roy Moreno
2 months ago