The Wiwi Jury — our in-house team of music unprofessionals — is reviewing and rating the 37 competing songs in Eurovision 2024. Next we review the Netherlands, who have chosen Joost Klein with “Europapa”.
Have we found our new European daddy? Read on to find out!
Joost Klein – “Europapa” (Netherlands Eurovision 2024)
Review: Joost Klein – “Europapa”
Simon: Being young in the ’90s (19, not 18!), this entry reminds me a lot of the dance music we had back then. I’m not a gabber or techno fan normally, but “Europapa” is just so catchy that I can’t help stomp my feet every time my playlist shuffles to it. I love that it takes on the Dutch traditions of dance music — and what would Eurovision be if there wasn’t at least one entry that just made you a bit happy along the way. The clever balance of not being too hardcore to cater for a more broad audience is clearly working with the insane amount of streams the song has, and I could see this as a contender for winning at least the public vote.
Score: 8.5
Deban: Whilst “Europapa” may seem like a fun spin on “Euro Neuro” on first listen, the song’s message is riddled with hope. Autobiographical in concept, this year’s Dutch entrant is living the lyrics of his song by participating at Eurovision, and navigating the continent’s musical landscape. That said, moments within this track feel misguided. And although Joost Klein can rock any look, wearing the European flag takes the visuals here into literal territory.
Score: 5.5
Ruxandra: This song holds the potential to win and could become a Eurovision anthem. Joost masterfully incorporates beloved elements popular in Eurovision (catchy choruses with repetitions, easy dances etc.), offering a delightful mix of everything the contest stands for. It’s fun and enjoyable, yet it maintains a genuine and serious undertone, even amidst the joyful delivery. The placement of the dance break is well-executed, and keeping the outro would be essential as it seamlessly blends fun and energy with genuine emotion. Joost impressively performs both the chorus and rap sections flawlessly, with maximum charisma.
Score: 10
Youyou: Over the last few years of the competition, many countries are finally realising that the so-called standard “Eurovision pop” might get you to the final, but it won’t get you to the top. Most of the songs that have done well are new and unusual. This year, the Netherlands have done just that. “Europapa” has been running through my head on loop, plus the intention of the song is great. I’m a little worried that the jury vote will kill the song though.
Score: 7
Netherlands Eurovision 2024 ranking
In the Eurovision 2024 Wiwi Jury, we have 17 jurors but only have room for four reviews. The remaining scores are below:
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Antranig: 4 Cinan: 9 Georgia: 9 Jonathan: 7 Lucy: 7 Pablo: 7.5 Ron: 5 |
Scarlett: 7 Sebastian: 7 Suzanne: 6.5 Tom: 7 Tomas: 10 William: 8 |
We have removed the highest and lowest scores prior to calculating the average. This is to remove outliers and potential bias. We have removed a low of 4 and a high of 10.
Wiwi Jury verdict: 7.40/10
What do you think of the Netherlands’ Eurovision 2024 entry? Share your own score and review for Joost Klein’s “Europapa” below!
NETHERLANDS – After several years of sending some of the best English-language ESC songs in the 2010s, they took a risk with finally sending a song in Dutch in 2022. After it scored well and had a positive fan-response, they did it again. However, apart from the language, their new entry has very little in common with Die diepte. Europapa is uptempo, with a constantly pulsating beat, and a very catchy hook. It’s somewhat reminiscent of the 90s Eurodance songs, but with a modern twist. The only other aspects the two entries share is that they’re both telling a personal… Read more »
This song is just good example of low-quality, circus-like and trash song 🙁 I hope this entry wouldn’t be in top5 because there are at least much better songs than this like Italy, Croatia, Switzerland and Belgium.
Did it ever occur to you that some other who love this song . If you don’t like it stay away from it, simple as that, we be glad not to have you here criticize and downvoting this song like thousands of times. There’s still 36 choices out there and feel free to pick you favorite
You already made your point about 10 times at this article.. we know you hate it and we know that you hope it will flop.. but we shall see what happens..
come on people, it’s wiwi jury. Handing out 10’s to the most average stuff and not in tune with vibes outside the eurobubble. Never forget this 4.4 out of 10, that turned out number 2 behind a hugely hyped message. We will see in May. https://wiwibloggs.com/2014/04/05/netherlands-jury-reviews-common-linnets/43619/
Check!!
“its now or never!!”
Common Linnets should have won that year!
He plays now on Kaaria, so low. Song is stupid. One of the worst this year. Even he is so annoying in that blue suit
He doesn’t play on Käärijä, they are friends. In fact Käärijä heard the song before Joost was even picked to represent the Netherlands. It seems the Euro fandom is so focused on hate and negativity, they don’t understand the concept of friendship.
People who advocate for love and peace are often the first people to spread hate. Eurovision Bubble is a great example of this.
This would be the most worthy winner in my opinion. It’s very representative of all of Europe, it’s fun, and hella catchy. The Netherlands have one of the best full packages this year.
This song was number one not just in Netherlands, but also in Belgium. When was the last time an Eurovision song was the number one hit in two different countries before the rehearsals?
Quite normal to be N1 in belgium as Netherlands and Belgium are neighbouring countries.
Not normal at all, in fact it has never happened before that a Dutch Eurovision entry is no. 1 in Belgium before the contest even starts. Joost also hasn’t had a no. 1 hit in the Netherlands before (not even close). He did in Germany, but not in the Netherlands or Belgium 🙂
Whn you get into the song and the vibe, «Europapa» is catchy as h*ll! 🙂 But it took me some listenings before I got there and had also heard this from many others. Maybe it’s not instant enough! Good luck, it would be really cool with at Dutch win again!
14th place – Netherlands (personal ranking) The very first time I listened to this song, I legit was like “Wtf is this”. I thought it was not good and I found it annoying, just couldn’t understand how people liked it. However some time passed by and I showed the song to my mum. She liked it and for some reason I then began liking it too. I often find myself singing it quietly and I never skip it on Spotify. The point is, the song isn’t bad at all, but I think there are people like me out there who… Read more »
The Netherlands “Europapa” is my No. 5 in ESC 2024. Since there has already been extensive discussion about this song’s music and meaning in many platforms, I’ll keep my opinion short: I really like the 90s childhood memories, the gabber music Drop, the touching story and the devastating Outro. I have heard that Joost is apparently awesome on stage, so I think this one is poised to do well.
This is my biggest grower of the season. I was not feeling it at first, as I dismissed it for being too novelty or trying to follow the “Cha Cha Cha” wave. However, “Europapa” has been climbing up my top during the last month. Like “Cha Cha Cha” before it has taken time for me to realised the work and the concept behind. I think this song has the potential to appeal both the televote and the jury if they appeal to the Pan-European sentiment. It feels like an anthem and the added eurotecnho/eurodance melodies from the late 90s-early 00s… Read more »
1. Lithuania (8,75/10) 2. Czechia (8.25/10) 3. Ireland (8/10) 4. Spain (7.75/10) 5. Norway (7.5/10) 6. Ukraine (7.5/10) 7. Belgium (7.25/10) 8. San Marino (7.25/10) 9. The Netherlands (7.25/10) 10. Sweden (7.25/10) 11. Poland (7/10) 12. Austria (7/10) 13. United Kingdom (7/10) 14. France (6.75/10) 15. Australia (6.75/10) 16. Finland (6.75/10) 17. Greece (6.75/10) 18. Azerbaijan (6.75/10) 19. Armenia (6.75/10) 20. Slovenia (6.75/10) 21. Serbia (6.5/10) 22. Portugal (6.25/10) 23. Georgia (6/10) 24. Denmark (6/10) 25. Germany (6/10) 26. Israel (6/10) 27. Italy (5.75/10) 28. Moldova (5.5/10) 29. Latvia (5/10) 30. Malta (4.25/10) 31. Luxembourg (4/10) 32. Cyprus (4/10) 33.… Read more »
It seems that this song has touched people the right or wrong way! First I heard this I thought what dug is this… hearing it again after the explanation, he deserves to win! I even bet on him to win! Let’s hope he does wel even when he’s bot winning, still my hero
When he wins, I will be there in Rotterdam doing the whole show over and let Rotterdam have the big party the didn’t get due to COVID and I’ll be there working as as a volunteer again! So vote for Joost and Rotterdam! ?
If there is one song that could unite Europe. Its this one. This gonna be such a wild fun ride. Cant wait for his performance. Im 100% sure people at home will enjoy this. Especially now, looking at whats happening in the world, people will appreciate something that brings a smile upon their face. Something fun and light. This is a serious contender guys, you know it.
This has been bothering me all day so I had to come back and comment. Deban says parts of the song are “misguided”. That is an incredible display of condescension. It annoyed me when I read it first but the more I think of it, the more disappointed I am by such an arrogant statement. It’s fine if you don’t like the song, but don’t question the artist to that degree.
I can take or leave this. Its got a catchy vibe, and he himself is a quirky artist, seems likable. But the song just doesn’t get me going anywhere – my mind is at anime game song. It’s grown on me slowly and I don’t dislike this as much. Just not my taste.
Score 3.5/10
What concerns me is that in multiple live performances I’ve seen, the ‘backing track’ was carrying large chunks of the lead vocals and he was just adding ad libs and accentuating bits. If he brings that to the Eurovision stage he will get no votes from me.
And neither will any other act that does the same thing.
Kaleen want her backing recordings back……………………………..
Joost is like a Pied Piper, leading the good people of Netherlands away from evil rat Geert Wilders.
Europapa is the “Agadoo” of ESC 2024…
https://youtu.be/POv-3yIPSWc?si=nQuydooqmY75fXyL
And that’s being kind.
7.40??? Is this a joke???
Indeed underrated
Scandalously low score.
Yas, precisly, should have been higher indeed!
You are absolutely right, TWELVE POINTS GO TO THE ?? NETHERLANDS 🙂
Back when Joost was first announced I really thought AVOTROS had lost the plot. “An entry like this would surely revert our country’s status back to the era of the Toppers and Sieneke” I thought. And oh how wrong I was. Being a native Dutch speaker the lyrics are easy to understand for me of course, so the message it bore was one I caught on quickly, and for a song in a genre I normally find extremely obnoxious, this one surprisingly does its job well without becoming too annoying or excessive. It has that typical Eurovision wackiness but still… Read more »
Toppers and Sieneke were not an istant TikTok act. Social media and new young viewers of ESC have a serious influence on the contest results. And, of course, this song is much better than some songs the Netherlands chose during the 2000’s and 2010’s.
Sieneke was such a joyful act. She sung perfectly.
Very dutch.
I think in these days she would have gotten much more attention?.
The epic dutch streetorgan. ( hollandse draaiorgel) would have gone viral.
*barrel organ
Sieneke, didn’t have a good staging! The song is catchy and I like it! Most Dutch don’t until in a pub and it’s a big hit!
I would have put on some dancers with represent all the countries mentioned! Because the music was good for a dancing show!
What a nasty thing to say. Has it made you feel better about yourself?
Well he thinks he is fab… so he is obviously narcissistic….
Love Joost and the song. Especially because it reflects the way I felt growing up. Happy on the outside and lonely on the inside. I speak Dutch (I’m not Dutch myself), so it helps me connect with the song even more. Love the aesthetics and his other music too. Even if you feel indifferent or even annoyed by this song, what matters is that it makes other people feel something. That’s what matters at Eurovision and that’s what gives you votes.
10/10 from me
I find it too toady to Martin Osterdahl and big countries. Too cheap strategy tricks. Besides that the song is great for kids birthdays.
I love it. Im all for the good vibes and this song and Joost are giving me that. It doesnt take itself too serious and yet, there is a beautiful message behind the song. I love the nostalgic feel to it. This is definitely a contender. I do expect it to finish 2nd behind The Code.
Good energy but the song is just childish and trash; he just tries to garner Public support meeting with Kaarija 🙁
I hope this song will be underscored by juries because it is just trash and low quality song 🙁
“He just tries to garner Public support meeting with Kaarija.”
They’re just friends.
They’re just friends….since Kaaria scored 2nd place on esc. He’s meeting him right before esc and possibly will include him in his performance. Wonder why he won’t include some other friends.
🙂 He will include his other friends on stage!
Ah, just because Kaarija got 2nd, they can’t be friends…
Basides, Kaarija was the one who came with the idea of meeting up, not Joost.
Ur either naive or dutch. Or both.
You are just a schizo.
Get your facts straight. His long time friends Appie Mussa and Martijn van Eijzeren are confirmed to be on stage with him. Gover Meit, another friend, will be his creative director. They were all in the video.
Käärijä and Joost are buddies too. They met last year and Käärijä campaigned for Joost to be the Dutch entry. He also provided feedback for Europapa before Joost submitted the song to the Dutch selection committee. And for Käärijä joining him on stage: that’s nothing but a rumor for now.
If I’m honest, I like it because of what he brings to it more than the song itself. If it were sung by someone else it would be a disaster. It’s Joost that elevates it. With a good performance, this will be a serious challenge to Croatia and Ukraine in the televote.
Gold star!
I wasn’t too keen on this track when it first came out. Switched it off after a minute. But after seeing a few interviews and realising how sweet and funny Joost is, plus seeing a clip on Instagram with that No Limit-esque drop of which I wasn’t aware, I got obsessed with Europapa.
I have found myself humming this song on occasion throughout my day. It is an ear worm there is no denying that.
Presentation wise, I’m not into novelty acts, but it probably is one of the better novelty acts this year.
Televote will love this, juried won’t so much I expect.
Using the term “novelty act” does this song a massive disservice.
Yeah, I think so. Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus do all sort of outrageous stuff but are never dismissed as novelty.
They probably should be.
Arguably. Beyoncé’s country schtick, for example.
Placing this in the same league as, say, Dustin the Turkey… definitely a disservice.
And a complete misunderstanding of how Joost has built his act up over a number of years – he has a huge degree of credibility
13) Netherlands – I’ll admit that I was pretty disappointed with this on first listen, but this has gradually risen in my top and I really like it. The energy is great, Joost is full of personality and the beat nearer the end is very enjoyable. All ending with a sad tribute to his father, that I didn’t understand at first but now I do. While I don’t consider this a winner, I still think it’ll do great and maybe it’ll exceed my expectations. 8/10
I enjoy this song so much. The public will too. However juries mmm. Can’t wait to see the staging.
I really disliked this when I first heard it. Now I am hooked! I don’t see this anywhere near the top of the jury vote, and in the popular vote it will fight over support with Croatia. 5th place overall? 8/10
I also was not a huge fan at first, but then the parental backstory suckered me into taking it seriously and then I saw the light.
I see that Joost has a strong following of dedicated, motivated and vocal fans, that are detached from reality. Outside of this core audience, the mainstream support isn’t there.
Everyone is talking about him winning the televote, but I fear it will be a disappointing night for the Netherlands.
Detached from reality? The reality is that Europapa is since it,s release the most streamed 2024 Eurovision entry every day , even if you take out the streams from NL and Be it is still the most streamed one. ( almost 40 million streams) 20 million YouTube views and 3rd with the bookies.. this is not only coming from the Joost fan bubble. Of course we have to wait for the results but it’s safe to say that NL will do well with the televote this year. And besides that other countries with high expectations can also be disappointed, because… Read more »
Most streamed literally means nothing nowadays when it comes to the points. It’s likel that bunch of those views are from the Netherlands. Also, one view ? one person, plus not all of those people will vote.
Just look at “Snap”.
I have no doubt that the high streams are from a large, dedicated fanbase that are streaming multiple times a day and that’s not a bad thing, but it doesn’t translate to votes. This is evident in the OGAE and INFE results we’re seeing.
It’s funny how you see actual streams in the real world as meaningless, and OGAE results as “mainstream”. The complete opposite from reality. Europapa was a massive hit in Belgium, but the Belgian OGAE barely gave it any points. That’s the difference between the mainstream and the Euro bubble.
‘Is’ a massive hit in Belgium. First 5 weeks at #1 – dethroned by Beyonce but sitting tightly at #2 for 2 weeks now. See this rising back to 1 once Eurovision starts
Yup. OGAE Bubble in 2021: Gave Malta the most points.
Televote in 2021: Only 50 points for Malta.
Dedicated fanbases vote A LOT.
You know what, I sincerely hope Joost wins. This is an awesome feel good song which is well produced and is something different. I am tired of 1) the same Eurovision ballad 2) the same weirdo ESC artist 3) the same political ESC song. Let’s have a gabber winner this year and maybe nezt year we have a latino song winner so can mix things up a bit.
I feel like this dude is convinced he’s winning the whole thing. And with rumours coming out that he’ll bring Kaaria onto stage with him and other marketing gimmicks I’m getting drawn away. Like, whats next, Loreen flying onto stage for Switzerland. The song is fun, but considering the Lasagna was a sole producer of his song in every aspect and seems way more humble I’m hoping he’ll win the televote.
Yea yeah fire? More like yeah yeah BASED
Kaairja on the stage with Joost? Where did you get that idea. So not true. They are friends for a year now, not just now.
The internet and his dutch fans. Either that or Kaaria appearing on screen. For a year? So, since Kaaria went on esc and gained a large fanbase. He seems a bit naive, Joost is doing the same thing as Bojan from Joker Out, using him.
And once again, on an article about the Netherlands I see unnecessary comparisons coming up to bring the entry down cuz you don’t like it. Especially the wiwi jury articles. I’ll say it again, these “Netherlands” comment sections are looking more and more like the winner of Eurovision comment sections .
Fine, I’ll do it without comparisons. It’s gimmicky, fun but not that fun, borderline annoying and overrated.
So are you?
Käärjää with Joost on stage, is what fans have rumoured. I don’t believe these rumours at all.
Joost has been friends with Käärjää for years. So, not very strange they meet each other sometimes.
Proof that they are friends for years?
This is at 7.4 and Finland is at 4.7 or something. And the general eurofandom isn’t much better, they literally had Finland as their NQ of the 1st semi and Netherlands as their top 3 of the 2nd semi.
I’m not saying these are the same songs or something but they’re similar enough not to be treated with THAT much of a difference. It just shows the difference between eurofans getting an internally selected polished studio version with a video and a national final participant with a live performance and winning over fandom favorites.
oh common, the BPM might be the same, the style might be the same, but the whole aesthetic of both songs are from 2 different planets. No rules is pure gimmick, europapa is not. 1 makes you cringe, the other makes you exited.
Even if I 100% agreed with you, the difference in opinions still shouldn’t be that big. But actually, they even have similar vibes, if you don’t like this stuff or not in a good mood, you could easily call them both “cringe”/”gimmick”/whatever word is negative for you here. If Finland has a man without pants and stuff, Netherlands have a guy in a cowboy hat with a striking haircut smiling too much and riding a scooter. And if we look deeper at both of the entries, we see that they’re much more that this. Finland is about not paying too… Read more »
Nothing against Joost Klein cause he seems a nice guy but this is my dead last! It just has to do with the type of music. It’s just not my thing . Sorry . But it will certainly stand out!
So are you, just you wait and see! Nobody can cater for all music taste!
We all know which songs we remember and replay, year after year when the contest circus comes to town. Verka, Go-a, Fuego, Euphoria, Fairytale. This song, also because of his charisma and stage show, will be added to that list. It’s what Europe expects and longs for that Saturday. Some songs are maybe “better”, some people have better vocals. But I think nobody has his electricity and connection to the audience. Through the camera. Just imagine eg the songs and performers of Holland and Croatia switched and see what will happen. I think Joost sells it. And that is something… Read more »
oh i think we’ll do well, but i just recognize this year being all about Israel basically (like 2022 was all about Ukraine) but yeah i think our staging will be something quite entertaining, some k-pop dance moves, similar happiness vibes as in Kaarija’s performance, but also with a Salvador Sobral moment (like in the outro part of the song) the combination of those two polar opposites kinda intrigues me and am excited for how everything will come across Israel is among my favourites yes, i have no shame in promoting Eden’s beautiful song, because i judge the songs, and… Read more »
I love Bambi’s creativity. Not so interested in peoples genes and genders though. I heard her rap /sing another song and she’s pure quality. The production of the song is not nice to my ears. Wish she sang it on the piano as she last did, she would be top 3 then for me. Spain is fun and good message, and I have no clue what letter she is in the alphabet. But her message comes across, wonderful. Swiss I do not feel. Good singer though. Croatian song I liked from the old clip without seeing him. But the song… Read more »
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How can someone sing in front of millions of people and then enlist in their country’s army to continue murdering Palestinians? There are people without soul or shame. This world never ceases to disappoint.
You’re on the wrong site. We’re discussing the Dutch song and how some fans view this. Please go annoy people elsewhere. Plenty of attention there for your issue.
My top 10 are Spain, France, Italy, Great Britain, Israel, Netherlands, Austria, Lithuania , Croatia, Sweden, in not particularly order but a special mention Ireland!
I hope that we don’t go back to the joke entries era…
the joke entries will be cancelled after Israel’s win, no worries (at least Israel knows to stay serious in terms of entries)
let Israel’s win also be a nice middle finger at p.a.l.e.s.ti.ni.ans
This is not a joke entry in my opinion. It is certainly different, but there is definitely a meaning behind it. Joke entries are there to score on a superficial level without any sort of depth.
no threat for our Israel, Eden Golan will shine beautifully in her stunning white dress and accompanied by 5 dancers
downmark me all you want lol, the more downmarks the more votes we will get!!!!
#VoteIsrael
Then leave Brabant and go to Israel
well if i am in israel, i can’t vote for them 😉
only one performance i am actually watching this year and that is Queen Eden’s ethno ballad
“Ethno-ballad”?! Every time I log in and say to myself “Now, be nice today” I see something like this and want to scream. ‘Hurricane’ is not an “ethno” anything. It’s a completely conventional pop song of the sort that the UK used to give to winners of X Factor twenty years ago. It’s on the same level as the German entry this year; a decent song but nothing that hasn’t been heard a hundred thousand times before. That’s without even getting into the genoc*de…
Stop feeding the troll 😉 Tomorrow Nicky will be back to loving it again
I hear you, I can’t vote for Joost but Israel has my vote
How did Sweden score higher than this song?
Because it’s a better package?
Sweden is very low in my top, it’s plastic generic etc, but I would also have placed it higher than the Netherands this year
32ND PLACE: THE NETHERLANDS: An unpopular opinion here, but I really don’t like this entry. I don’t find it particularly witty or smart, but rather just a joke, silly entry trying to be funny. There are too many gimmicks involved for my taste and at the same time I can’t find any interest in its music whatsoever or its lyrics (at least apart from the final part). I get that the song might also carry a personal meaning for Joost, and the song at the same time may also bring the party to Malmö arena but it’s not for me.… Read more »
I knew I couldn’t possibly be alone with my low opinion of this entry haha
I was also afraid of being alone on this. Though we are going to possibly find out how alone we are when the televoting points are announced on May 🙂
The Netherlands have in recent years sent some amazing songs, ranging from introspective songs to country songs, with varying levels of success. I hope Joost’s inevitable success won’t push them towards the direction of joke entries from 2025 onwards.
Yeah, I mean I also thought that last year was terrible but I didn’t wanna push them to do that, just to get a better, deeper song and more competent singers, not just take the next best entry from their buddy Duncan. They were at their best when they put two great artists who hated each other together on stage and made them stare at the other for three minutes. That was wonderfully introspective. Or S10.
I liked Burning Daylight but certainly not as much as previous Dutch entries. De Diepte was my winner of 2022, Duncan was solidly in my top 10, the Common Linnets and Douwe as well etc.
Listing all these, Europapa is my least favourite Dutch entry since Sieneke or The Toppers
I understand the dislike, but do you really prefer Trijntje?
Yes! Whyjajajaj is iconic 😉
Yeah, she elevated that to listenable … but imagine what she could have done with a proper song. Such a missed opportunity.
Very true. But that was kind of on her. She chose the song and didn’t wanna do much work for Eurovision.
Oh I completely forgot about that one 🙂 . Yeah that was also a dark page in Dutch ESC history xD
2009 and 2010 were difficult times to be a fan of the Netherlands in Eurovision, that’s for certain. Still haunt me to this day…
Yeah definitely. I am glad they had a renaissance after 2013
When this song was released it wasn’t in my top ten at all. I just didn’t feel it. But then PrePartys happened and it completely changed my mind. Now it’s my top 2 just because of his performance there. He just delivered, that’s all. He knows how to work with the public, how to entertain people. I want to see quality performance, and this is it. So, 12 points for the Netherlands!
I hate to admit this, but maybe the juries spoon feeding Loreen the victory wasn’t such a bad thing after all, as I had originally thought. If the keep entries like this one right here and Croatia from winning, I can finally see the use of juries. The problem is when they still screw up and give totally undeserving songs like Unforgettable the edge. Then, we might as well have a silly song win.
Love it or hate it, the infectious “pa pa pa” will stay with you for a long long time. And that’s good – having a memorable part people can even sing with the artist is always fun. They just need to nail the right amount of chaos when it comes to staging. Too little or too much and it might not recieve as many votes. Still I wouldn’t be that much worried that it won’t qualify. It will.
It haven’t stayed with me… like at all.
Joost seems very smart and knows exactly how to get votes. It’s also a very good thing to achieve the momentum he got on home soil, respect for that. However, I really don’t want this song to win Eurovision. It would be a sad thing to happen as we have some really outstanding music competing. This is just a silly, silly act to me. His success may prove The Netherlands right, but I’d find this a horrible winner. Music first, always.
Wachtmuziek
“Music first, always”, a very good motto, applies to this song as well. Only people with surface level thought process think the song is a joke.
I never said it was a joke. I ain’t laughing.
silly or a joke, it’s practically the same.
I think the political and humanitarian aspect of the song raises it from silly. Agree or not,it does have at least SOME substance.
Open borders!
“Stay here until I die” also has a very strong social commentary as well – Joost is a clever chap, it’s so much more than the shiny facade that some people cannot see past.
If I liked what I heard, I would try to see past the facade. But the music just isn’t my thing at all.
Just because the musical style is not your thing, does not mean that the music itself is not quality.
True. But it doesn’t mean the opposite either.
Sure. But you gave absolutely zero analysis as to why this is a poor quality song – you just referred to it being a “silly, silly act” and that quality is important, inferring that this was not quality, however offered zero explanation.
True. Maybe it just appears silly to me, it may very well be top quality for what it aims to be.
I mean yes, it has a concept and a message. The presentation and antics are putting the entry on the silly side. I agree that there’s substance, I just find the whole act silly nevertheless.
They say that Eurovision songs should be divisive to score points. This is certainly divisive. I absolutely loathe it. I cannot think of a Eurovision song I have detested so much for many years.
and to those who say but it’s deep and has meaning. I know Joost’s back story and I’ve read the translation of the lyrics. It’s not deep.
Just because you don’t have the lived experience, please don’t try to control other people’s emotions. It’s fine to say that you don’t connect with the song but please don’t deny other people their valid emotions. If someone has a very deep connection to a song, then let them have it, you don’t need to pretend that you have control over whether something is deep or not.
That you don’t understand the deeper meaning of the song, doesn’t mean it’s not there.
Joost is the true spiritual successor of Karijaa for me. Nobody else comes close.
This so called song is one of the worst thing I ever heard. I can’t describe how much I hate it. 0/10
Lol, who hurt you…
Are people not allowed to have opinions any more?
What’s the issue?
Turn off your Nintendo and go to sleep
I don’t like aggressive marketing and gimmicks of this entry. It’s giving look at me, i am special, im funny, im spontaneous….and i have totally opposite feeling…idk, the song is funny, it’s catchy, it’s not a skip for me. Oh, one more thing…what makes it a bit cringe to me is his style and facial expressions… Overall, type of song we have been getting from 2000 onwards, nothing new, but i expect top 3 score in televote, gimmick songs tend to find it’s audience. Agreed with the score on wiwi jury on this one.