On Friday evening, around 30 minutes before the jury final, the EBU announced that The Netherlands’ Joost Klein will not perform in tonight’s jury show, which accounts for 50% of the final score.
That’s because of an ongoing investigation into “a reported incident,” which has not yet been explained publicly. The statement read:
“The investigation into the incident with the Dutch artist in this year’s Eurovision Song Contest is still ongoing. Discussions are also taking place between the EBU and AVROTROS, the Dutch participating broadcaster.
While the investigation continues the EBU has decided that Joost Klein will not perform during Dress Rehearsal 2 of the competition which is voted on by juries in the 37 participating countries.
His performance from Semi Final 2 will be used instead.”
The Malmö police have confirmed to Sweden’s SVT that they are on site investigating the alleged incident involving Joost Klein. #eurovision #eurovision2024 https://t.co/2QwBc0la0K
— wiwibloggs (@wiwibloggs) May 10, 2024
The Netherlands’ Joost Klein excluded from Eurovision jury final as EBU investigation continues
Joost Klein was removed from Friday afternoon’s grand final dress rehearsal after the EBU received a report about an “incident.” This would have been Joost’s final opportunity to rehearse on stage ahead of the jury final tonight.
On Friday our bloggers were inside Malmö Arena and saw the Netherlands’ Eurovision 2024 singer marching in the opening flag parade. However, when it came time for Joost to rehearse — he’s performing in spot 5 — he was nowhere to be seen. During the voting recap, footage from his semi-final performance was played instead.
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This suggests the EBU made a snap decision sometime between the flag parade and his scheduled rehearsal, after Luxembourg in spot 4 and just before Israel in spot 6. In a statement released shortly after reports emerged of Joost’s absence, the EBU confirmed that they were investigating an incident.
In a message sent to the press room WhatsApp group, the EBU said:
“We are currently investigating an incident that was reported to us involving the Dutch artist. He will not be rehearsing until further notice. We have no further comment at this time and will update in due course.”
Following the news, Dov Gil-Har — a news anchor at Israel’s state broadcaster — approached the Dutch bluebird dancer with a camera, saying, “Where were you? We missed you on stage.” A security guard for the Dutch team is heard saying, “What are you doing? Why are you doing that?” and “Can you stop that please.”
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Bloody Israel again. This situation and Ebu’s incompetence in making the right decisions made this year’s Eurovision a contest best to be missed.
All we hear is investigation in an incident. Why no transparency? Somebody tell us exactly what happened. Otherwise it’s just speculation going on.
I think this is what I hate the most about EBU, its lack of transparency. I’d expect such a thing from Mexico (where I come from, especially rn under the current govt), not from Europe.
Our Eurovision party has been cancelled. All 24 of us have decided to boycot this year’s contest following the EBU’s handling of the 2024 contest: Israel’s participation, the running order (producer’s choice), banning of flags, and now the Joost drama, which is the last straw. Enjoy everyone – of what is left of a contest we all (used to) love!
Cry baby.
Ngl, I think there would’ve been most of this drama even if Israel had withdrawn
Whats left are the ashes of what once the Eurovision Contest used to be.
The Dutch commentator just confirmed that the incident has nothing to do with the Israeli delegation, and that the incident is extremely MINOR…..There will be a riot tonight.
Minor for one is not minor for the other. We will probably hear from Joost during the day.
Everyone who participates in riots needs to be imprisoned!
Not when laws or resolutions are stupid
Can we please respect other artists as this is their moment to shine as well, all you have been doing for the last two days was talking about Israel and the Netherlands. And while I feel really sorry for Joost as he was one of my favourites, we don’t know what he did and cannot jump to the conclusions blaming the EBU, maybe he is in the wrong here.
All the other artist is fcuked this will over shadow even the winner.
SOME DETAIL: Happened Thursday night after performance. READ!!!
http://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2024/0511/1448561-swedish-police-investigate-eurovision-incident/
Officialy still under investigation, but if it’s so,
then he didnt listen to his father’s message.
The ending of his song was all an act, fake then.
No he listened to his Dad. Never to fake and always follow and speak your mind.
You are fake with your so called ’emotions’.
PUKE on ya. With no regrets.
F the EBU! Very hard!!
Why? Do you know more than we do?
The incident is minor and silly. The Dutch broadcaster finds the decision disproportionate and extremely shocking.
Who cares what they think?
Sit down. Nobody asked for your opinion.
Two important things we should all remember about the Joost thing.
1. We have no idea what happened, or did not happen. We are not in a position to judge the fairness of this decision as of now.
2. Israel do not feature in the story at all.
Preach!
But we do know it must be serious, otherwise Joost could apologize and get over with.
Not according to the Dutch broadcaster….
It’s not right Jonas and if you looked into your heart, you’d know it
I think it’s time for Mr. Österdahl to step back from his position after conclude this year. His management seemed worst years of this festival, whether its his fault or not.
BREAKING: 5miinust & Puuluup SAID THEY ARE OUT IF THE NETHERLANDS IS DISQUALLIFIED
Are they crazy?
but there is not a confirmation if they are leaving or not
Estonia withdraws if there is investigation Joost may have threatened a female employee?
Probably they said that when it was thought that was something about Israel. I don’t see they leaving,
Here we are, using DQ for the 1st time
So when a grown man (Joost) bullying an Israeli woman in a room full of reporters its “activism” but when an Israeli goes and ask “where are you we missed you” to the Netherland delegation is bullying and you mention it on the article? William, you lost your mind and you ruin Wiwibloggs. And please don’t delete my comment. I belive you rooting for free speech, haven’t you?
Where was the bullying lol? You are delusional
It is not only the Dutch delegation that has been chased by your delegation. Just watch the stories from one of your songwriters. Sad to see a song that appeals to Europe being disqualified by a Middle Eastern country that promotes violence in its region.
Also, you are rooting for free speech right? Like the one the one that your president gives to many Israelis that are rioting against him or the ine that is given to the Palestine people. Pathetic….
The Israeli reporter asked just the same question
as the female Swedish reporter who followed Joost to the elevator, with her camera team.
That was all after the incident that is now under investigation.
This whole thing had nothing to do with Israel or other degelations. Has been confirmed, also by the Dutch commentator.
I don’t care who wins anymore, all the fun have been sucked out
Europapa wasn’t fun anyway.
I dont understand. If he attacked a photographer, i think the disqualification is fair
Ok, nice, he has been disqualified. So this is serious, otherwise the EBU wouldn’t have decided that way. Can people please stop spreading conspiracies?
According to the Dutch broadcaster and Dutch commentator, who have issued statements for the first time, the incident was minor and totally not worth a DQ.
NETHERLANDS DISQUALIFIED, Dutch broadcaster AVROTROS says it’s ‘Shocked’ and calls decision ‘completely disproportionate”
That’s interesting (as we really have no detail or context)… Sounds like a fracas… The broadcaster wouldn’t state something like this if there was physical violence… EBU has to take a zero-tolerance approach to anything like this I assume.
Joost Klein as been disqualified from Eurovision 2024
If he’s DQ that means it was something serious. How can some people still defend him ?
I don’t understand that either. Victim blaming?
Yeah people are crazy, throwing around all possible conspiracy theories. Tried really hard to blame stark for this yesterday. Now that is clear that Israel has nothing to do with it they try to blame the Swedish camera woman has provoked him… so bizar. Police and prosecution are involved. Of course it’s serious!
Because it is hard to imagine that such a nice guy did this. It’s also hard to believe he will take so much time and effort for months and at the last minute will not participate. It is also a favorite, not the song from Moldova, let’s say. Besides, fans are angry at the EBU, and doubt their intentions. Maybe for some, the fact that the police is involved dosen’t mean Joost committed any crime.
It’s not easy for fans to realise this is serious.
Clowns often have a dark side.
I am not saying this is the case here, but I won’t be surprised.
It’s confirmed by Belgian media that Joost will not participate tonight… Eurovision is done for me now. F the EBU
The reason why is not important for you.?? WoW people and minds.
The investigation is still ongoing, I say innocent untill proven guilty and let him participate. If he actually did something, then erase him from the scoreboard afterwards
If he attacked someone, i think it is fair
If he did something that serious, why is it ESC fault? anyway, we have to wait and hear the story and his side.
Breaking News: Netherlands disqualified!
God bless Martin Österdahl
Eurovision 2019 – 41 countries
Eurovision 2021 – 39
Eurovision 2022 – 40
Eurovision 2023 – 37
Eurovision 2024 – 36
Eurovision 2025 – ?
It’s 37 this year.
Will see)
As we get info now – 36)
1 (Israel)
NL is probably out, so 36.
If it will be Zagreb 2025, then Balkan countries will surely come back, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and probably Romania and Bulgaria too.
OK, so maybe next year 12 countries will Q from each semi or only 20 acts will take part in the final. I’m sure the viewers in the participating countries will enjoy a shorter show.
Let’s suppose the EBU will be using the Dutch tape from the semi-final 2 tonight. Is the Dutch delegation planning to be present in the green room? what if Joost wins and there is no delegation? will they show the Dutch fans instead when NL get’s it’s points? will the NL deliever their Jury votes or the producer will?
It will be a Eurovision to remember, unfortunately for the wrong reasons.
These guys get it;
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeCJW1wd/
Yep, it’s “tainted.” And the sad thing is, it never had to be.
I have a feeling atmosphere at the grand final will be very flat, and if, as some expect, we get a first-time winning country, much of their thunder will be stolen by other events.
It’s just been a horrible year.
And it need not have been.
Another thing is that artists don’t know their final number and can’t start promotional campaigns
The final numbers aren’t going to move even of Netherlands is dq and they already started promotional campaigns.
This is not true
It does matter. Israel will be song number 5 instead of Holland, and so on.
“The opening of the Rest of the World vote has been postponed until an ongoing investigation regarding the Dutch participant has been concluded. We are sorry for the inconvenience.”
Investigation has been concluded. Open the damn ROW vote.
I am sure they would if they could. They are losing money now.
UPDATE (keyword – for levelling the vitriol…threats…): A spokeswoman for the Swedish Police Authority said in a statement: “A man is suspected of unlawful threats. The crime is said to have been committed at Malmö Arena on Thursday evening.
https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2024/0511/1448561-swedish-police-investigate-eurovision-incident/
And… Conference later this morning… As per usual… No detail
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeCJsenE/
It wasn’t physical violence, he threatened her, the police reported.
Are we sure it was only a verbal threat? In some languages to pose a threat in law may mean physical harm or not. It depends. I am not sure how it is in swedish. I sure hope nothing physical happened.
European fans: criticize the strong action of Israel killing thousands of people
Israeli fans: yeah but it’s just defence, you don’t understand. (And it’s true we can’t understand, I give them the point)
Eurovision fans: express the possibility that people had come to provoke Joost and that he had reacted on the spot (without necessarily saying it’s linked to Israel)
Some israeli fans: it doesn’t excuse violence.
Mmmmh. In both cases I condemn violence tbh. Why couldn’t we think that Joost defended himself? And I say this while liking Eden’s song and not Joost’s one.
There is a big, Huge difference. Alsi in law.
His Life was not at treath.
Don’t know if it was Joost or the delegation though.
Maybe he did defend himself, we have no information, we can only take a guess or read rumors. What could possibly a Swedish worker do to deserve a punch? there are other options to choose before hiting somone: a complaint for example to begin with.
The latest report says that nothing physical happened
The case has been passed on to the prossecuter.
Double standards when it comes to violent people. If it was some russian, hungarian guy a few years ago, some azeri, gerorgian, serbian. All here would be in favor to DQ him
But what you are suggesting never happened. So how can you assume? this is no argument, sorry.
Stop your whataboutism. There was no such a thing in history as dq of qualified artist
I think the context will be very important, even if the punched someone.
Cause if the reporter went to win to f‘uck around and find you, they deservedly found out, if they very provocative, taking his photo when he didn‘t want to, if he was harrased, I‘d say that would be an act of self defense, even if it was a woman (because let‘s face it, the gender shouldn‘t matter in such a case)
lol
*if the reporter went to him to f‘uck around an find out, they deservedly found what they were looking for
Violence is not really the way to handle things, we learn it in kindergarten. Especially if you are an artist in showbusiness. Besides, none of the participants are Madonna who has to face media for 45 years. It’s just for a week, and we will never hear from them ever again. This week is their money-time, they are not supposed to look at it as harassment.
There is no excuse for physical violence. No matter what was said by either party, physical violence is not the right response to verbal provocation.
How can it ever be defensible to hit a woman?
Shout out to the guys sitting next to me last night with French flag, Israeli scarf, Croatian football club’s t-shirt, reading news in Dutch. Like girl, choose one. Lol
Why pick one? That’s the beauty of Eurovision,
It’s not football, you can support more than one country!
Come on it’s eurovision day let’s focus on other things as well. Please
yes you have to think about how sensual and divine it is to combine your body with another
I think we will only relax after we have a winner, something new we can focus at.
Well that depends, if there is a winner nobody expected two days ago, internet will burn lol
an apology from me anyway to rest of you music fans, also i wish all artists bar israel’s wonderful careers from this years class, same goes for those who nq’d, don’t let an nq stop you from further releasing new music the artists from this year who i like a lot Gate, Megara, 5Miinuust/Puuluup, LUNA, Mustii, Angelina Mango, Nebulossa, Electric Fields, Ilkin Dovlatov, Teya Dora, Raiven, Bambie Thug, Saba, Iolanda and i hope Olly would return to his Years & Years type of bops soon, i used to be a fan of him in that group (songs like King, Shine,… Read more »
I miss Turin 2022 edition; it has one of the best turquoise carpet. Yes, the staging was not good due to broken sun but everyone enjoyed and talked about music.
Without Ukraine’s Political win, it might have been much better.
The kinetic sun worked, but one of the EBU’s many foolish choices stopped it
It did but it was too slow if I remember well and it was impossible to move it on time between the different performances.
if you notice, it’s the same slowness as the LED cubes hanging from the ceiling of this edition, only that the cubes have less impact on the scenography in terms of timing
ps personally I think that the scenography of Turin was perfect even without the kinetic sun, the fountain, the green Italian garden etc… were truly special
Turin? Hell no. It was awful (except the turquoise carpet and Diodato).
I miss Lisbon 2018. It was all about the music. Quality music, may I say.
the worst edition of the last 20 years as an organization, the turquoise carpet was a disaster!!!!
But the 2 semi finals were great. Sweden is a Eurovision expert and I respect them, regardless of what I think of the running order issues, their being a jury favorite every other year, etc’.
certain editions have been criticized for much, much less!
He was illegaly threatened on Thursday evening. Did this happen after the press conference and his comments on the Israeli participant?
He wasn’t threatened, he’s the one suspected of illegal threats. The plaintiff is an employee at the ESC (Police doesn’t specify whether it’s an employee of SVT, EBU or a contractor). This has nothing to do with the press conference or Israel.
Did you read the Aftonbladet translation?
“We have a case with a man who is suspected of illegal threats that took place in Malmö Arena. The suspected crime must have taken place on Thursday evening. But reported on Friday.”
Yes, I have. I understand that the sentence refers to Joost. He’s the one under investigation.
Ah, yeah, you’re probably right. Sorry. But why did he threaten someone? Was he provoked?
So appearantely EBU let him to go on a flag parade just for grand final translation to be nice on Sunday in case they will has to use recording. Clever
What? He was the one doing the threatening and it has nothing to do with Israels….What are you talking about?
Anything that someone did to Joost does not justify violence. I hope he will participate today after all his efforts for months. It doesn’t matter if I like him or the song, I hope NL can be in.
Who can you expect certain attitudes and actions from? obviously only from the Dutch!
Cut the BS pls
I wouldnt be surprised if some countries withdraw next year due to this ‘Dramavision’ Song Contest because several things, controversial rule changes overshadowed the contest 🙁
No, thats what people always say but nobody will withdraw….
If joost doesnt perform tonight say bye to the netherlands atleast. If Israel wins we have only israel and sweden competing in Hamburg 2025.
Why Hamburg? Maybe it’ll be Munich or Leipzig.
yes hopefully
Netherlands, Greece, Spain, Norway, Ireland, Iceland, France, Belgium, Germany all withdrawing please
and hopefully many more withdrawals, who wants to participate in Israel, in that corrupt money country
Slovenia will withdraw also. They are recognizing Palestine as a sovereign country in the coming month.
I think all Balkan countries will withdraw, possibly Spain and Ireland also
So now you also involve money, as a ripe classic anti-semi would do when thinking about Jews. In fact, Germany and other countries said they would withdraw if EBU would have asked Israel to not participate this year. So keep dreaming. Germany and many other countries learned from their past regim’s mistakes, join them will ya.
No one cares. EBU might add a rule restricting certain tiktokers from participating though.
Well all this is making me sad.
good
hopefully no one has any interest for ESC anymore tonight
You not watching it then?
If I’m not interested in Eurovision I would not be sad.
Aftonbladet: “Initiates investigation into illegal threats after the incident in Malmö Arena “The police have started a preliminary investigation into illegal threats after an incident at Eurovision. According to information to Aftonbladet, Joost Klein is accused of having been violent towards a woman in the television production. – We have a case with a man who is suspected of illegal threats that took place in Malmö Arena, says Evelina Olsson, police spokesperson. The police have started a preliminary investigation into illegal threats against the Netherlands’ artist Joost Klein after an incident at Eurovision in Malmö. – We have a case… Read more »
So, nothing to do with Israel whatsoever…..
Of course not. There was never any indication that the NL situation has anything to do with Israel.
I know, I was rolling my eyes yesterday reading these comments where people almost hoped Israel has something to do with it so they could hate on Eden even more…..
no, i mean Joost said ”why not” regarding Eden to answer that kinda uncomfortable question lol
makes me confident they snitched to the SVT as a form of revenge
Damn, you guys really are out of control with twisting the truth!
Of course it’s very possible that there is no link with Israel. People who assumed so were out of their shoes there. BUT it doesn’t change the fact that some people from the israeli delegation tought it was intelligent to go and joke around as if they were in a good position to do so. Don’t tell me their intention was good. It was very $tupid
So the rumours were true that he was harrassed.
No, if you would read what the piece spokesperson said than you would understand that he was the one doing the threatening and that the plaintif is a member of the Swedish production team
When I was thretend by a man that said that he would hurt me and was violent agains a person he hot 1 month in prison. I was then a young girl and I wasn’t even pressing charges against the man my self.
lmao lmao lmao, excuses and not mentioning israel whatsoever, but yeah moroccanoil bribe money does a lot of wonders to clear you of any involvements in drama
Man are you anti-semi… Talk also about money of the big reach countries who used t be and still are and act like big entitled empires, including their ruling on the Land of Israel across 4000 years of Jewish history there. And if course lets not forget Qatar’s money to support te@rro@rists and far-left students at universities – many of whom are gay/binary or whatever that wouldn’t survive a day in the Palestinian territories as well in many Arab countries just for their orientation yet they support barbaric primitive regims. Go fart in boiled water and sleep on your nose,… Read more »
Apparently the investigation from the swedish police is “unlawful threat” ( i dont know if this is the english term for “olaga hot”). It refers to a person who is threatening another person or this other persons property. To be jugded there has to be evidence that the person comitting the crime raises a weapon or in any other way threatens with some kind of criminal act.Sorry for my bad english.
It could probably include a verbal threat to hit someone.
So basically a whole bunch of nothing
Svensk?
När jag var tonåring kom en person och hotade att han skulle göra harmynt av mig och en campare där jag jobbade kom och skulle hjälpa till. Han tog då en hand snabbt mot hans strupe och svor något i ilska. Han fick då en månad fängelse! Så om det finns vittnen och bevisning kan detta innebära mer än att han blir diskad.
and escforum.net site is also taken down
Well police is involved so I guess it must be something serious and I doubt it will be solved till tonight…..
So this means he will not be performing?
I think he won’t performing if it’s not resolved but they will also not qualify him. So I guess they show the video again from semi 2. but who knows we still have a few hours…… if he really punched someone he will def. not perform….
If it won’t be solved Joost won’t be disqualified
Thats what I just said!
i’m still baffled by sarah bonnici’s marketing skills
Her song is also actually really good, I wonder if she would‘ve qualified with Lose
So internation voting is still delayed?
I mean rest of the world
Yup
Yes unfortunately.
That is a shame that decision was not made yet
Poor Sweden. This year’s Eurovision organization has been a nightmare. I can only imagine how stressed out the organizers are.
oh boo hoo, don’t feel sorry for them at all lmao
the worst edition of the last 20 years as an organization, the turquoise carpet was a disaster
TBH I feel sorry for all of the people who have put work into this year, from the organisers to the singers to the fans. The atmosphere is dreadful and not at all like Eurovision and it’s all been caused by the presence of one country who aren’t even in Europe.
I wish everyone involved in the ESC in Malmö all the best. I understand how difficult the situation must be today. Please stay safe, and try to remember that this special day is supposed to be about sharing music.