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Twenty-five acts sang in the grand final of Eurovision 2024. Sweden opened with a dark dance song about a venomous yet addictive woman, while Austria closed with a euro-dance track that brought the 90s back to life. In between we saw a non-binary witch working it inside a pentagram and a British pop star writhing with shirtless men inside a box that resembled a locker room. But in the end it was Switzerland‘s Nemo who topped the vote to win Eurovision 2024. 

Nemo took 12 points from 22 of the 37 competing countries to win the jury vote in a landslide. However, they only placed joint fourth in the public vote (the lowest placing of any winner in recent memory). Croatia, who finished third with the jury, topped the televote to finish second overall. 

Accepting the winner’s trophy, Nemo said: “I hope this contest can live up to its promise and stand for peace and dignity for every person.”

Eurovision 2024 Final Results

  1. Switzerland – 591 points
  2. Croatia – 547 points
  3. Ukraine – 453 points
  4. France – 445 points
  5. Israel – 375 points
  6. Ireland – 278 points
  7. Italy – 268 points
  8. Armenia – 183 points
  9. Sweden – 174 points
  10. Portugal – 152 points
  11. Greece – 126 points
  12. Germany – 117 points
  13. Luxembourg – 103 points
  14. Lithuania – 90 points
  15. Cyprus – 78 points
  16. Latvia – 64 points
  17. Serbia – 54 points
  18. United Kingdom – 46 points
  19. Finland – 38 points
  20. Estonia – 37 points
  21. Georgia – 34 points
  22. Spain – 30 points
  23. Slovenia – 27 points
  24. Austria – 24 points
  25. Norway – 16 points
 
 
 
 
 
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Eurovision 2024 Jury Vote

  1. Switzerland – 365 points
  2. France – 218 points
  3. Croatia – 210 points
  4. Italy – 164 points
  5. Ukraine – 146 points
  6. Ireland – 142 points
  7. Portugal – 139 points
  8. Sweden – 125 points
  9. Armenia – 101 points
  10. Germany – 99 points
  11. Luxembourg – 83 points
  12. Israel – 52 points
  13. United Kingdom – 46 points
  14. Greece – 41 points
  15. Latvia – 36 points
  16. Cyprus – 34 points
  17. Lithuania – 32 points
  18. Serbia – 22 points
  19. Spain – 19 points
  20. Austria – 19 points
  21. Georgia – 15 points
  22. Slovenia – 15 points
  23. Norway – 12 points
  24. Finland – 7 points
  25. Estonia – 4 points
 
 
 
 
 
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Countries that received 12 points and from who…

Croatia: Cyprus, Serbia

France: Armenia, Slovenia, Belgium, Iceland

Greece: Switzerland

Ireland: Australia

Luxembourg: Israel

Portugal: United Kingdom, Croatia, France

Sweden: Germany

Switzerland: Ukraine, Luxembourg, Azerbaijan, San Marino, Malta, Albania, Denmark, Spain, Switzerland, Georgia, Greece, Estonia, The Netherlands, Austria, Italy, Finland, Portugal, Latvia, Ireland, Poland, Lithuania, Sweden

Ukraine: Czechia, Moldova

Eurovision 2024 Public Vote

  1. Croatia – 337 points
  2. Israel – 323 points
  3. Ukraine – 307 points
  4. France – 227 points 
  5. Switzerland – 226 points 
  6. Ireland – 136 points
  7. Italy – 104 points
  8. Greece – 85 points
  9. Armenia – 82 points
  10. Lithuania – 58 points
  11. Sweden – 49 points
  12. Cyprus – 44 points
  13. Estonia – 33 points
  14. Serbia – 32 points
  15. Finland – 31 points
  16. Latvia – 28 points
  17. Luxembourg – 20 points
  18. Georgia – 19 points
  19. Germany – 18 points
  20. Portugal – 13 points
  21. Slovenia – 12 points
  22. Spain – 11 points
  23. Austria – 5 points
  24. Norway – 4 points
  25. United Kingdom – 0 points

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Eva
Eva
6 days ago

If the Netherlands had been in the final, Metler would have been 6th in the televoting, not 5th. Would he have won then? this winning is a fraud, could the Netherlands prevend this fraud? What you think about it?

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
6 days ago
Reply to  Eva

I think that that would’ve been likely and then idk who would’ve won, but being 5th in the televote and still go on to win makes it look like the jury has a bigger weight on the final score and that the 50/50 arrangement isn’t true

Milan
Milan
5 days ago
Reply to  BiCHOTA

Jury has the advantage because they open their cards as late as on Saturday, while televoters do it on Tuesday and Thursday.

Eva
Eva
6 days ago

Metler won by fraud. No one has ever won with only 5th place in the public vote, so there is some kind of fraud. If he had the honor he should give the tropy back cause it dont belong to him. Win this way isnt a win Please, let’s make a protest to cancel the results because there was fraud

Ricardo
Ricardo
6 days ago
Reply to  Eva

The only fraud was the massive manipulation of the televote.

Lulu
Lulu
6 days ago

I just got no comment..millions of people voted for Croatia, it had 48% more public votes then Switzerland and points from aaaalll countries, and Nemo was left well behind at 5th place! Yet, 200 jury members decided oposite…so disgraceful! We, millions of EU citizens, have voted and financed this show yet EBU took our money and said well, this guy wont winn..what?? Is there ANY possibiLity that small country wins and organizes ESC? We are not good to you, and playgorund is just for big players?

Rall
Rall
6 days ago
Reply to  Lulu

It definitely proves some of the hypocrisy within the fandom. loreen got less top jury votes and came second with the televote and people went crazy. Switzerland storms the jury vote and comes 5th with the televote and barely anyone complaining.

Eva
Eva
6 days ago
Reply to  Rall

Please, let’s make a protest to cancel the results because there was fraud

Eva
Eva
6 days ago
Reply to  Rall

Why do you say that anyone complaining? After all, people are outraged by the fraud, it’s a fictitious victory

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
6 days ago
Reply to  Rall

Loreen’s victory was rigged too, but even that looks fairer than Nemo’s win

Jinbeizaki
Jinbeizaki
5 days ago
Reply to  Rall

My problem with Loreen last year was mainly about her returning despite having already won, I am not into winners ever returning because you can bet they have advantages. Rybak in 2018 would have never qualified in his semi final, even less 1st if it wasn’t Rybak. Meanwhile here this year, Nemo won for the 1st time, Switzerland not having won in a long time also helps the case next to Sweden having won 3 times in the last decade, this doesn’t help her case at all. Kaarija had the highest televote in percent too (if you’re not counting Ukraine… Read more »

ESCfan04
ESCfan04
7 days ago

I think the best way to improve the voting system for the Eurovision final only is to do the following: the jury to award the following points: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, and 12 points to their top 10, whereas the public points should be double of the traditional points, as in, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 20, 24 for their top 10. I think this is a great solution for next year.

jercle
jercle
6 days ago
Reply to  ESCfan04

But then what happens when a song the fans don’t want to win wins from a huge televote? Had that system been in place this year, you-know-who would have won.

Plus it gives other countries more motivation to rig the televote.

Ricardo
Ricardo
6 days ago
Reply to  jercle

One possible solution, already in use in some national finals is a 40/30/30 vote:

  • 40% professional jury (and I mean truly music professionals)
  • 30% demoscopic jury
  • 30% general public

We cannot return to a 100% televote system, the quality of the songs will suffer and we will go back to the dark days of 90s and 2000s.

Sally
Sally
7 days ago

It’s just nice to have a winner I don’t mind. That hasn’t happened too much the last few years.

Ted
Ted
7 days ago

Not sure where to post this, so I’ll post it here.
The UK midweek chart just announced today. 13th May 2024

Eurovision entries:
34 – Dizzy – Olly Alexander (re-entry)
49 – The code – Nemo
70 – Rim tim tagi dim – baby lasagne
81 – europapa – Joost

Not at all reflective of how the UK televote panned out! Just saying.

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  Ted

How is that a midweek chart? The chart is announced on Friday. All of those will sink out of the top 100 by then I would think

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

Well, the tracking week starts Friday, so Monday is mid-week.

siracire
siracire
7 days ago
Reply to  Ted

People needed to be reminded just because you received null points does not mean no one voted for you. People voted, it was not enough to reach to get to 1-8, 10, 12

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
6 days ago
Reply to  Ted

Jeez! I know that last year’s Eurovision chart run was impossible to beat, but I expected at least somebody cracking into the top 20.
Says a lot about this year’s outcome :/

Lulu
Lulu
6 days ago
Reply to  Ted

Stick to not so controversial themes on stage next year and you’ll be scored better ..this was only adult friendly I’m affraid. Last year UK told to Let3 to redesign costumes to look less nude on british stage, because of small children watching tv, and now you british are sending the orgies to Esc stage..double criteria?

Azuro
Azuro
7 days ago

Swedish Police have confirmed they are likely to prosecute Joost Klein

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
7 days ago
Reply to  Azuro

Have they revealed the charges set against him? That’s probably why he was disqualified because it would’ve looked bad to perform while charges are pending. Not that there’s already a lot of bad stuff happening at this Eurovision.

FunQ
FunQ
7 days ago

Anyway, this eurovision has been a disappointment on many things. Turquoise carpet and postcards were the lowest cost possible version. All the problems, disqualifications, discussions on Israel, have poisoned the envieronment. Seing Martin Osterdal booed is not something nice. He should resign.

siracire
siracire
7 days ago
Reply to  FunQ

the flag parade is also underwhelming compared to last year and even in 2016

FunQ
FunQ
7 days ago
Reply to  siracire

Yes. The fact Martin Osterdahl comes out just today in 2024 saying the contest is not financially sustainable, was like he was paving the way to SVT to produce a poor version. We will see what SSR SRG will create. Some interval acts were also poor. The number of dancers on stage compared to previous editions was reduced. I continue to say that winning too much is not good. Sweden should give some space to others.

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  FunQ

Well it doesn’t need semi finals. All the songs have been declared by beginning of March. Why not have a show featuring each country’s videos and whittle them down from those? Then it goes back to being a one night show. Just one rehearsal before the big night. Juries and televote on one night. Stop all the show offs delivering the votes and unecessarily dragging it out. There a few millions saved already

Sally
Sally
7 days ago
Reply to  FunQ

They need to talk to Portugal who decided early on not to buy into the gross excessiveness and still put on a better show on a budget than than Sweden or Israel did in their last times out spending more than ever at that point.

Immediate changes to be made: ALL vocals must be live, make sure the performers know it is a sing contest NOT a dance contest and they are expected to perform a song NOT a dance recital. But mostly. EVERYONE SINGS LIVE! EVERY NOTE!

FunQ
FunQ
6 days ago
Reply to  Sally

I totally agree on that. I said it everytime. I don’t care to see Dancing with the stars or Star Academy or America’s got talent on that stage. I want to listen to songs and music. Strip down the show to what was once. Hearing someone singing bad because he is doing a crazy coreography (Olly Alexander is an example) is totally bad. I don’t care if we will loose 10 millions audience. Sanremo has a crazy audience in Italy just with songs in a tiny theatre. I guess EBU could do the same one year, just to try. If… Read more »

Ricardo
Ricardo
6 days ago
Reply to  FunQ

Give him enough money. He will bent backwards.

siracire
siracire
7 days ago

My favorite part is when Switzerland gave 12 points to Greece, Nemo hugged Marina, and when Greece gave 12 points to Switzerland, Marina went to hug Nemo. I love it

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
7 days ago

You know, I just realized there’s a lot of parallels between 2014 and 2024. —both were hosted in a Nordic country (Denmark, Sweden) —both had groundbreaking LGBTQ+ winners (conchita wurst, Nemo) —both had said winners from alpine countries that used to struggle in eurovision before winning for the first time in decades since their last victory (Austria 48 years between wins, Switzerland 36). —both had a country booed while their artist was performing due to controversial actions outside the contest (Russia, Israel) and a couple of interesting observations: — 2014 is as of now the last time all the nordic… Read more »

Arc
Arc
7 days ago

You all should go and check the comments under last year winner article, when winning song was second with public. This year winner was 5th with public and we are all of the sudden praising jury for saving us. Love Loreen, and Love Nemo. But you all should never forget the hate you all sent towards Loreen and Sweden, and reflect a bit on that.

Eyal
Eyal
7 days ago
Reply to  Arc

That’s different. Juries tend to vote for Sweden like crazy. Juries thought in 2018 and 2019 that Sweden should be top 3. Fans don’t accept it.

Stian F
Stian F
7 days ago
Reply to  Arc

Difference is that “The Code” is an original song, great composition and authentic to the singer – it is something we haven’t seen be done in Eurovision before + staging and vocals were perfect. Of course fans are happy then. Last year the winning song was just another pop song about a topic that has been sung about since the beginning of Eurovision…there was nothing original with the song, despite a great staging and vocals. The juries still let this unoriginal song win over a much more interesting and original fan favourite. Also most people would agree that even how… Read more »

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  Stian F

He won the televote. I don’t think k people do agree with respect

Robert
Robert
7 days ago
Reply to  Stian F

Whats original in code?

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  Robert

He means he is another LGBXYZ alphabet soup winner , who uses swxuality to make up for lack of charisma or personality

Ricardo
Ricardo
6 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

Bigot!

Arc
Arc
7 days ago
Reply to  Stian F

Love Nemo, that win is deserved. Not saying anything about that. But despite everything you said, it’s hard to believe that all of that originality resulted only in 5th place with public.
I would also argue that 22 juries giving 12 points to one entry, does not represent the quality of this year in respective way. ( Portugal and France are the first to come to mind ).

Eva
Eva
6 days ago
Reply to  Arc

Saving us before what? I prefer Israel a hundred times over Metler, who won thanks to fraud. The jury’s votes should be canceled because they were unfair and boycotted Israel, it’s hard to count, only music, not politics!

Ricardo
Ricardo
6 days ago
Reply to  Eva

Honey, the only fraud that happened was state sponsored televote massive fraud on Propaganda Barbie.

jercle
jercle
7 days ago

To anyone saying “the televote winner is the real winner”, please keep in mind that Croatia barely won the televote – just 15 points more for you-know-who would have meant they would have won the televote. So begging for the televote winner to be crowned the “true” winner is dangerous – look how it could have turned out.

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  jercle

The voting system as it is now is just set up so that Osterdahl et al can rig the winner they prefer (or scupper the chances of one they don’t). They see nearly every country’s televote potential from the semifinals and in that knowledge the key countries are placed in the running order by “producer’s choice”. And then, like last year and this year we get a situation where the juries have realistically decided the winner even before the grand final. Asking people to pay to vote when they cannot change the outcome is fraudulent in my opinion. They are… Read more »

Robert
Robert
7 days ago
Reply to  jercle

Croatia won televote in front of 2 countires with pitty + diaspora votes while not being a favourite to win it. That in itself is as he cleard 450 points.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
7 days ago

Does anyone think that maybe Olly was completely done in (46+0), once Nemo took to the stage and presented a more dizzy experience riding that big top? The only way I could think of Olly beating that was to put on stage the Carousel scene from the movie LOGAN’S RUN! That would have been prohibitively expensive.

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  CookyMonzta

I think he was done when he thought “Dizzy” was a good song and chose it for our entry. Most people – except die hard UK fans desperate for a win- realised it was a total dud. He compounded it with a gross staging concept, and further compounded it with very weak and rather out of tune vocals.

siracire
siracire
7 days ago
Reply to  CookyMonzta

regardless, what is done is done. the only consolation here is he placed 18th overall. most predicted he would finish at the very bottom (no pun intended) and get null points. 13th from the juries and 18th overall is not so bad

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  siracire

Zero from the public of two continents and the rest of the world is not so bad? Get out of here.

siracire
siracire
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

Gabriela Guncikova, Nathan Trent, Sisters, Blas Canto, Jendrik, Jeangu Macrooy, Marius Bear all received null points from the public. James Newman received null points both from jury and public. So yeah, not so bad

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago

May I just say (finally) that for me, the best of the night were Alcazar. They really brought the party (until that stupid unfunny ending) with an absolutely banger classic disco track.

Eyal
Eyal
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

How about Loreen? I just thought: WTF? this is TOO MUCH freedom of art.

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  Eyal

I was bored watching her.

Ultima Thule
Ultima Thule
7 days ago

In the end, when the dust settles, I hope that EBU will learn from this horrible year and change the direction where it is heading. Sweden was a great host, as expected, almost everything during interval acts was fun, especially compared to how cliche and cringy that looks like when most of the other countries are hosting. With two exceptions – ABBA part and Loreen part. First was very cringy and I lowkey liked they didn’t want to come after EBU tried to make them with their behavior and public messages throughout the year, although they said they will never… Read more »

Enyo
Enyo
7 days ago
Reply to  Ultima Thule

Bravo, this is it. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

L’oiseau
L’oiseau
7 days ago
Reply to  Ultima Thule

What a bunch of non-sense. The opposite, Eurovision should downscale, focus on quality and quitting being so obsessed with money and audiences. It’s an event made by public tv stations, not private ones. A lot of tax payers money are involved, so the show should strive to be of quality and more inclusive, which is not. But of course, with your lack of taste you wouldn’t understand a single word of what I am writing

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  L’oiseau

But also can it be realised that inclusive doesn’t just mean LGBTXYZ . The contest needs to be reclaimed as a an event for the whole family otherwise it won’t sustain long term.

Eyal
Eyal
7 days ago
Reply to  Ultima Thule

I agree about the juries, with one exception. I think that most voters are also watching talent shows or reality shows where the judges can decide, sometimes against the public vote. This is nothing new for the audience. It’s part of the game.

funkerman24
funkerman24
7 days ago
Reply to  Ultima Thule

I can almost guarantee that Loreen’s performance was put together very late, hence the uninspired staging. Rumour has it she pulled out of the semi final performance with Johnny Logan and threatened not to hand over the trophy had Israel won. So they must have waited till last minute to put it together after she was probably told not to worry about the latter.

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
6 days ago
Reply to  Ultima Thule

Sweden was an underwhelming host this time around imo

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago

Did Graham Norton do his annual toast to Terry Wogan during song 9 or during song 10?

Dr. Fergal Sherlock
Dr. Fergal Sherlock
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

9

Arystophan
Arystophan
7 days ago

Haha, the cryochamber is not sealed? do you refuse the coffin? did you understand that we preferred you alive and moving?

Dr. Fergal Sherlock
Dr. Fergal Sherlock
7 days ago
Reply to  Arystophan

Initial response was blocked.

Cryochamber on standby until I see some answers from EBU… Fizzing like the egg from Windows95 man… But with better software.

Arystophan
Arystophan
7 days ago

it could take time, you can adorn your vault, make it nitescent, although your presence is enough for that. otherwise, if you want to maintain radiant youth, I bite like a vampire and protect the cells from aging.

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago

Even though song 9 was really song 8 this year?

Sally
Sally
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

I’ve stopped watching the BBC feed specifically because of Norton and his asshattery. I watched the Malta feed which was just the show with no local commentary.

Eurofan23
Eurofan23
7 days ago

This year’s contest is an absolutely mess

Eyal
Eyal
7 days ago
Reply to  Eurofan23

Only us fans know that. The viewers heard only about the incident with Joost and they heard the audience booing for Martin Österdahl. Not sure for them it’s a mess, it happens in our bubble.

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
6 days ago
Reply to  Eyal

Only that’s enough to realize something’s pretty messed up backstage

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago

For me, rhe big question is whether Switzerland would have won had Netheelands not been disqualified. I think it suspicious that the Dutch entrant was only disqualified AFTER the jury show. Did Mr Osterdahl and Co fear a landslide Israeli televote (based on the semifinal results) and ao sacrifice Netherlands in order to increase Swiss jury score so that he couldn’t be caught, sadly actually costing Croatia a deserved win.

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

Question. I spot a hole in your logic. If Croatia were going to win anyway, as you state… why would the EBU bother?

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Who made this decision, awhile gave the orders, and why would the jurors play along with it?

Does the EBU have its own secret intelligence unit, a Stasi or MI5 of sorts, sending 007s out across Europe on missions impossible?

Robert
Robert
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Because EBU didn’t expect Croatia to do so good with the jury vote like it did so they put SUI late as a safety net in my opinion.

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

No. I think they looked at the semifinal televotes and feared an absolute Israeli landslide. Hence they seized on some nothing incident to boot out the Dutch and enhance the Swiss scores so he couldn’t be caught. The fact that Croatia won the televote was a surprise to them

Oetam
Oetam
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

I think you almost got it right. They actually wanted to increase Swiss public vote, not jury, juries were safe for Nemo, they were told what to do ( not vote for Israel)
That’s why they put Nemo in 21st place (Ukraine 2.) in running order, despite coming 4th in semifinal 2.

If Joost was in final, Croatian public vote would be lower.

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  Oetam

I think the EBU should be made to release the jury scores with Netherlands included so we can get an idea

Oetam
Oetam
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

Someone here already counted those, he got 58 🙂

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  Oetam

I haven’t seen any figures released

L’oiseau
L’oiseau
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

Others have made that connection and sincerely that sounds a lot like conspiracy theory. The real question is would Baby Lasagna have won the televote and the second place?

Eyal
Eyal
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

The Netherlands would probably be top 5, as the semi final results suggest. But their participation would not only affect Croatia or the eventual winner, but the entire scoreboard. For example, maybe Finland or Estonia could end up with 0, as it’s the same genre. We can’t really tell.

funkerman24
funkerman24
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

Both Croatia and Switzerland televote would have suffered had Netherlands participated.

Eva
Eva
6 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

If the Netherlands had been in the final, Metler would have been 6th in the televoting, not 5th. Would he have won then? this winning is a fraud, could the Netherlands prevend this fraud? What you think about it?

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago

The contest is a microcosm of society at large.

All of the numerous conspiracy theories, differing opinions, some just plain absurd, loud voices, quiet voices, anger, threats etc. Unfairness, mediocrity rewarded, talent wasted and unappreciated…

This is how the WORLD works.

Sad.

Happy Monday!

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

In the end, though, we got a vet happy winner spreading a message of love and self determination. All is not lost!

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Very happy winner

Arystophan
Arystophan
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

the happiest thing in this world is your existence

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Arystophan

I agree.

Kobe
Kobe
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

I agree!

jercle
jercle
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

We did, but unfortunately we’re also got something I hoped we wouldn’t – another year of “real winner” discourse. We had it in 2022 with Spain, last year with Finland and now this year with Croatia. The “real winner” is always the country that has the most combined points at the end of voting. Why can’t fans accept their favourite didn’t win and unite behind the winner?

Robert
Robert
7 days ago
Reply to  jercle

I agree with 2022 and this year’s “real winner” discourse. If it weren’t for the war in the Ukraine, Spain would have won. People choose Spain, compassionate/statement votes choose Ukraine. This year people, backed with juries in normal proportions choose Croatia but disproportional jury vote choose SUI. I love Nemo, he seems like the sweetest person ever. I also look forward to going to Switzerland next year. But you shouldn’t be able to win if you come 5th with public vote. That’s not logical.

funkerman24
funkerman24
7 days ago
Reply to  Robert

The only thing that matters is absolute numbers, finishing position on either side is irrelevant. Ukraine’s and Israel’s televotes affected the results of all other countries, Croatia including.

jercle
jercle
7 days ago
Reply to  Robert

But don’t forget, Croatia only just won the televote – you-know-who was just 14 points behind, it was that close. So had you-know-who won the televote would fans be saying, like they are with Croatia, “the televote winner is the real winner”? Absolutely not.

Lulu
Lulu
6 days ago
Reply to  jercle

You know when 10 million people or more, vote for you , yo are the winner, and not the guy that had 48% lower televote score!! This victory was unfair filling of jury votes to Nemo! So jury is suspicious, how is it that only 200 people decide the winner actually, and some of them even not comming from music fields, working as enterpreneurs, dancers, etc ? Oh c’mmon we all clearly see whats going on..rich countries didnt want croatian victory, the small poor EU country is not good enough to organise the next esc according to Ebu obviously.

Ultima Thule
Ultima Thule
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

The only thing absurd about this win is pretending everything is fine and how it should be. It is obvious that it isn’t.

Poul Riisen
Poul Riisen
7 days ago

Now that the excitement is over and the dust is settling down, I would like once again to say this: the song is the most important thing. Staging can help but not to a great extent. For example, Austria. The staging was very good (Swedish MF style) but the song was mediocre and that did not help much. There are countless examples of good staging for mediocre songs. At the end of the day, it’s more about how a song sounds and staging complements the song. Also, the performance plays a huuuuge role, i.e. the vocals and overall energy and… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Poul Riisen

Have you gotten over the shock of 6th place, Poul? 🙂

Poul Riisen
Poul Riisen
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Haha, not really. Seriously though, well done to Ireland. I did not believe in or like the song, but it’s an achievement.

CumbiaLove
CumbiaLove
7 days ago

I think Italy, Spain, and the UK should withdraw from Eurovision. It doesn’t make any sense. Spain finally sends something that the public likes. They’ve done a very good job with two pre-parties, having one of the best LGBTIQ+ communities. Everyone enjoys their songs and the parties in Benidorm, as well as the pre-parties in Madrid and Barcelona. But they are still underrated. The UK is similar. They have very good staging, a good song, and put in a good effort despite getting 0 points. Italy should never listen to its Eurofans. Do it your way, Italy. Top 10 in… Read more »

Poul Riisen
Poul Riisen
7 days ago
Reply to  CumbiaLove

How does Spain send something that the public loves but received only a handful of votes? I would love to learn more about that.

Also, about the UK.

The stadium audience is a specific audience (very fan-oriented; there is nothing wrong with that, of course).

CumbiaLove
CumbiaLove
7 days ago
Reply to  Poul Riisen

Come to Spain for the holidays – you’ll have fun and enjoy the music. I wonder if the same would happen with Ay Mama and Noche Ochentera.

Poul Riisen
Poul Riisen
7 days ago
Reply to  CumbiaLove

I can’t quite understand your point. I always say that Spain has a huge music industry and they can’t send songs like Zorra. Chanel showed the way.

CumbiaLove
CumbiaLove
7 days ago
Reply to  Poul Riisen

Chanel showed how any political situation can win in Eurovision. Don’t think there’s a secret to Eurovision success, whether it’s a good or bad song. That’s why I think that this year, just as Bendirom believed, at least people were enjoying it, and it will probably be more remembered than some other countries’ songs that finished in the top 10. I still think it’s underrated, like Italy and the UK songs.

Jonkonfui
Jonkonfui
7 days ago
Reply to  CumbiaLove

The problem with Spain is that you chose a very bad song for Eurovision, wrapped it Up on a very bad staging thinking that by doing something gay-ish the gay audience Will vote like there is no tomorrow for Spain. And then we end on place 22 and the problem is “potatoes”…

Samo
Samo
7 days ago
Reply to  CumbiaLove

Well, public clearly didn’t like it, judging by the vote. Problem of many fans is that they confuse the fandom bubble with the actual reality. There are two main differences between the two. First of all, fandom has a preference for certain genres, which may not be in line with the preference of the general public. Second, fandom lives with the contest for months, listening to songs again and again the entire time, reading about messages/meanings/whatever of them. The general public on the other hand hears the song on the night for the first and the only time. Their opinion… Read more »

Poul Riisen
Poul Riisen
7 days ago
Reply to  Samo

Well said, Samo. I agree 100%. And it’s never a matter of hatred. People can’t downvote a song. It’s which song can mobilise more people to vote for them. Even if a song has 1 million “haters”, it may be able to mobilise 1 million people to vote for them. This is the contest. And I am really happy it works that way.

Scotty
Scotty
7 days ago
Reply to  CumbiaLove

Yep Spain and UK and Germany commonly are victims of double standards…

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  CumbiaLove

I think Eurovision needs to be reclaimed as primarily a family event. It isn’t a LGB alphabet soup festival. They are part of its viewership of course , but only a small part.

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

“Family” does not mean “Hetero”. This may come as a surprise to you, but LGBT+ people, young and old, are also part of family units.

Milan
Milan
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Family means less dry-humping.

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

LGBXYZ alphabet soup viewers are a tiny fraction of viewers but we had lewd displays on a number of the acts which isn’t family friendly. Be gay all you want but thrusting jockstraps in what looked like a seedy cottaging scene? Really??

Poul Riisen
Poul Riisen
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

What does your definition of family include? We are in 2024 and it’s not a matter of hetero / gay families or lifestyle.

It’s a matter of general quality.

For example, a female singer showcasing her body in a very aggressive way, is that OK and family-friendly or not?

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  Poul Riisen

Yes family doesn’t equate to only hetero (though mostly it does like it or not). Equally though gay does not equate to oiled up virtually naked men pretending to have sex in a toilet. It’s a matter of tastefulness

Oetam
Oetam
7 days ago
Reply to  CumbiaLove

Spain got 11 public votes cause Nebulossa isn’t quite the best singer and I guess random eurovision voter dont like to see man bum on TV. One can only imagine how many votes St. Pedro with Dos Exstranos would get, I would be first to vote for him.
UK staging was great but way too gay and sexually agressive (Albania 2021)
Italy had no staging idea this year.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
7 days ago
Reply to  CumbiaLove

Italy? No. They might not have placed higher (I had Angelina at =1 with Baby Lasagna after their performances); but nonetheless they finished 7th. The last 2 women they sent (2014 and 2016) finished on the other side of the board….

…This top-10 finish for a solo woman performer is probably a first in an immensely long time. They’re still on the right track with 8 straight top-10 finishes (I believe “Fai Rumore” would have been top-10 if not for the virus). If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

funkerman24
funkerman24
7 days ago
Reply to  CumbiaLove

They should use less sexually suggestive staging with erotic scenes.

Lorena
Lorena
7 days ago

For me there is one thing that should change in the voting system, I don’t know in the rest of the countries, but most of the TV programs in Spain already introduced it: no more classical televote. Just a free app, where each person can vote just once (ok, if we want to make it 2, 3 or up to 5 times, but no more). The classical televote leads to too much SIMs card buying and inequality (not everyone can spend the money to vote 20 times, plus not all the countries have got the same price and/or the same… Read more »

Lorena
Lorena
7 days ago
Reply to  Lorena

Another thing I would do is re-introducing juries in the semifinals. If countries cheat, they should be punished.

GregZ
GregZ
7 days ago
Reply to  Lorena

I have been a strong advocate against Juries for a number of years due to their bias towards certain countries, and how they penalise songs that are not pop. Last year being the best example.

However, after this year’s televote results, I have started to change my view. Maybe there needs to be a return of jurors back in the semis, but they really do need to reform the jury process.

jercle
jercle
7 days ago
Reply to  GregZ

I can agree with that – I’m pro-juries, always have been since I’m old enough to remember to remember the horrors of the 2000s – but they need reform. As a first step, increase the size, only five jurors is too few. More jurors would mean more variety in taste and preferences, and the more people on a jury, the harder they are to corrupt.

GregZ
GregZ
7 days ago
Reply to  Lorena

I agree. I think people should still be allowed up to 20 SMS each, however they can only vote for a song once.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
7 days ago

Hey, how’s everyone holding up? I hope people are okay and that most of you aren’t too sad or depressed. I said this the other day, and I meant it: the meltdowns will fade, the music will remain. By now I believe most bots and trolls have left so we can actually read these pages in peace. :p What a week, huh?! And what a marvelously exciting year! Instead of the usual 3-5 songs that I usually end up using each season, this year it went up to 6-7, with additional 3-4 being considered as well. My absolute fav never… Read more »

Dr. Fergal Sherlock
Dr. Fergal Sherlock
7 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

These are the types of clips I’ll remember most. Performers genuinely happy for each other’s achievements:

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeCkw8fo/

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

I am well. Apart from it being Monday morning.

Milan
Milan
7 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

I’ll agree as to it being a very exciting year. I’ve also found a few songs that I liked, and even discovered something new – that a shocking performance can shock me in a good way (I’m not usually into that). I’m just generally saddened that getting to know more and more about the contest makes me care about it a bit less each year (I’m the only one of my family who still watches it, not to mention friends)… But yes, the important thing for everyone of us here is to find some music that will remain.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
7 days ago
Reply to  Milan

Jonas explaines it pretty damn well, scroll up a bit.
Just don’t let it get to you. At least that’s what I always tell myself. 🙂

Milan
Milan
6 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

Thanks. Congratulations on the televote win, btw (I assumed at some point that you were from Croatia).

Kobe
Kobe
7 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

Molitva one of the worst winners? ?

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
7 days ago
Reply to  Kobe

Yeah. Sorry if it hurts your feelings.
The damn song is so forced, loud and emotionless. Just annoyingly terrible.
In case you’re Serbian, let me console you by saying that whatever Joksi created for Serbia or other countries was marvelous.

Milan
Milan
7 days ago

Clearly, withdrawing the juries from semifinals and leaving it all to the televoters has only one purpose – for EBU to see in time how the televote would go in the finals and think of a good way to sabotage it if needed. Juries are needed in the semifinals too, because that’s the only way to ensure a kind of balance between juries and televoters.

Jonny
Jonny
7 days ago
Reply to  Milan

That’s stupid. Even with 50:50 in the semis the EBU knows the results of the televote. So your conspiracy is just nonsense.

Milan
Milan
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

It isn’t nonsense if you put some sense into it by thinking. If juries vote in the semifinals according to their musical taste (or whatever), and THEN the semifinals televote turns out to be undesirable in either direction (e.g. that a certain country that mustn’t win is about to win or the other way round), it becomes impossible for EBU to instruct juries to vote totally differently in the finals. In this way juries don’t open their cards until the finals. THIS is where the fundamental imbalance between the juries and the televoters is. Withdrawing the juries from semifinals has… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Milan

Clearly?

No.

Milan
Milan
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

But imagine if, as early as on Thursday, it became clear that juries would tank a certain country on Saturday, or that juries strongly prefer Switzerland to, say, France – don’t you think that such revelation would impact the televoting on Saturday? It is usually a significant advantage to play if you’ve seen your opponent’s cards, and your opponent hasn’t seen yours. To me it seems clear.

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Milan

In theory I guess what you suggest is POSSIBLE, but there is zero evidence to suggest it actually happened.

Milan
Milan
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

I agree there is zero evidence. If I remember the original motive for elinimating the juries from semifinals, it was something about irregular voting patterns in 6 countries some years ago. To me it always sounded more like a good excuse, but I may be wrong.

Patrick
Patrick
7 days ago
Reply to  Milan

Interesting that the Dutch entry was only booted after the Jury show. I think they looked at the televotes from the semi finals and feared an Israeli landslide. I thi k they booted znwtherlands to push up Swiss scores so he couldn’t be caught

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

Yeah, defeat Israel by removing their biggest rival. Makes sense.

Lila Ramonda
Lila Ramonda
7 days ago

To spread a little positivity :
– Latvia, Ireland and Georgia were in the grand final for the first time in nearly a decade
– Armenia got almost the same result as Iveta when she also performed in sweden
– Germany is not last and performed even better than most people thought (they all said Isaak was going to be 20th in best case)
– Croatia!!!! I’m so happy after tick tock not going to the finals
– Portugal wasnt slept on

Dans
Dans
7 days ago
Reply to  Lila Ramonda

Couldn’t agree more, Switzerland got their first win in 36 years, Croatia had their best ever result, Ireland had their best result in 24 years, Latvia, Georgia and Ireland broke their NQ streaks and Portugal ended up in the top 10.

Andreas
Andreas
7 days ago

For the second year in a row, the winner is obviously determined by the votes of the jury. Then why are the public televoting organized at all?

Jonny
Jonny
7 days ago
Reply to  Andreas

Nemo got more than 200 points from the televote, as well as Loreen last year.

Robert
Robert
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Coming 1st and 3rd should carry more weight than coming 1st and 5th. There you see abnormal disparity between jury votes and public votes. Last year when you all shouted robbery, Loreen came 2nd in public vote and 1st in jury.

Helene
Helene
7 days ago
Reply to  Andreas

Are you aware of that Israel won the televote not Croatia. Last year Sweden was second in televote. Nemo was not.

Helene
Helene
7 days ago
Reply to  Helene

You Could say that the juries saved Croatia’s second place and sunk Israel. I think Croatia couldn’t win the juries. His vocal capacity and the song is not good enough for that. He a the song doesn’t match the critieria. Strange is the low placement of Norway!

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
7 days ago
Reply to  Helene

Dear, what are you talking about? Croatia won the public vote.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
7 days ago
Reply to  Helene

Croatia 337, Israel 323.

Helene
Helene
7 days ago
Reply to  CookyMonzta

Sorry i was looking at the 12 points Israel got and muscalculated. Anyway it was Israel the juries hurt the most and Croatia was never going to get high points from the juries. In fact I am surpriced they did get that many point as they did. The criterias for the juries are vocal capacity (well baby lasagne is nice but his vocals are only ok) the originality and composition of the song (it is a large part influenced by other songs in a repetitive manner) the stage performance (ok) and overall impression (good I guess). Now look at Switzerland… Read more »

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
7 days ago
Reply to  Helene

Vocals? Rim Tim Tagi Dim ain’t no My F******* Heart Will F****** Go On. And Memo’s falsetto is much easier than you think, especially when backed by so many backing vocals that add to it sounding grandiose.
Originality? Industrial rock influences are nothing to be embarassed about – Limp Bizkit and fauxpera are.
Impression? Well, the public begs to differ.

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
7 days ago
Reply to  Andreas

My theory is that because the semis are now 100% televote, there are fewer songs in the final to split the jury vot… plus the increased number of “televote magnets” means their potential votes are diluted.

As long as this is the case, I’d expect the juries to have the upper hand in picking the winner.

Robert
Robert
7 days ago

4 ballads and whatever genre Slovenia is advanced from semis without juries so that statement doesn’t stand.

Robert
Robert
7 days ago
Reply to  Robert

5 ballads*

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
7 days ago
Reply to  Robert

That doesn’t change the fact that so many more televote magnets take part in the first place (in hopes of qualification). And I’d postulate that Serbia and Slovenia mainly qualified because of diaspora, as evidenced by their placement in the final.

Fact is that fewer jury friendly entries are built in with this system. And that gives juries an advantage.

This would also explain the results since the system was put in place.

I maintain that we will see a lot more jury chosen winners going forward if the system remains.

Time will tell.

Milan
Milan
6 days ago
Reply to  Andreas

For the money, of course.

Stian F
Stian F
7 days ago

Can’t wait for wiwibloggs “Biggest crimes of Eurovision 2024 video” now….if the EBU isn’t number 1 then I don’t know what…

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Stian F

Unless an ACTUAL crime has been committed.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
7 days ago

Here’s a thought: After Kaleen’s next-to-last-place finish in the final, is Austria’s 3-year-long EDM experiment over?

Lila Ramonda
Lila Ramonda
7 days ago
Reply to  CookyMonzta

Same thought. I dont hope for it because they sent solid songs. I think it’s similar to Germany and the UK, they didnt send bad songs but it juat didnt appeal to people that much

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
7 days ago
Reply to  Lila Ramonda

But this time Germany sent something the juries liked (enough to push Isaak to 12th), when 2 years ago Malik had a blank jury scorecard but escaped with 6 points.

Even though I scored Isaak last on my score ard, I had a feeling that he was going to get done points, but not nearly as many points as Michael Schulte did when he finished 4th in 2018 (which almost nobody expected).

Maybe these are the kinds of songs Germany should send, until they become stale even with the juries.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
7 days ago
Reply to  CookyMonzta

(Errata)
‘score ard’ should be ‘scorecard’
‘…get done points…’ should be ‘…get some points…’

Robert
Robert
8 days ago

There is a video on wiwibloggs insta from baby lasagna’s welcome party. Thank you for bringing eurovision back to croatian households that lost all hope after 2 decades of being bottom feeders <3

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
7 days ago
Reply to  Robert

The fact that the whole contest is generally so looked down at makes part of me hate seeing people crowding up like that lol.

Robert
Robert
7 days ago
Reply to  Robert

6000 people! Holy sh

Sh1ft_key
Sh1ft_key
8 days ago

Do we already know if Moroccan Oil will be the sponsor next year as well?

Darren
8 days ago
Reply to  Sh1ft_key

Depends on the legit of the contract that they have with them. When did Moroccan Oil start sponsoring ESC? Was it like 2021? I forget now

If it’s like a 5 year thing, they could very well be the sponsor again next year

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
8 days ago
Reply to  Darren

I think it was 2020. Check the music videos posted by the ESC that year.

Alen
Alen
7 days ago
Reply to  Sh1ft_key

Do you know that the owner of Moroccan Oil is a Jew from Israel? Maybe will explain Israel placement…money money, always funny….

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
7 days ago
Reply to  Alen

No. They did not qualify in 2022.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
7 days ago
Reply to  Sh1ft_key

Something tells me this is the last we’ve seen of MoroccanFilth at ESC.

jercle
jercle
7 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

Unfortunately, it might not be easy for the EBU to extract themselves from what might be a long-term contract. And of course, they might not want to. Money talks, as usual.

I think 2019 was the first year with Moroccan Oil.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
7 days ago
Reply to  jercle

I don’t see their brand on any of the 2019 videos, and certainly not in 2018. But 2020 it was clearly visible.

MyHeritage was the primary sponsor in 2019. So, if it was a 5-year contract for MoroccanOil (starting ESC 2020), this was their last year.

jercle
jercle
7 days ago
Reply to  CookyMonzta

Yes, sorry, it was Myheritage in 2019.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
7 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

2020 was their first year. If it was a 5-year contract, that contract is valid and starts in 2020 even with the virus, because they sponsored the music videos (and other ESC video clips) and the shows that replaced the contest that year. 2024 would be the last year of this contract.

jercle
jercle
7 days ago
Reply to  CookyMonzta

In which case, the EBU shouldn’t renew.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
7 days ago
Reply to  jercle

Absolutely.
Judinging by everything that happened, I expect and hope they’ll pick their new partner… ELSEWHERE!

Samo
Samo
7 days ago
Reply to  Sh1ft_key

It has nothing to do with the whole thing, despite all the conspiracy theories. EBU is not a private company but rather an organisation where the power comes from the bottom – the reference group essentially represents broadcasters. Whether Moroccan Oil sponsors ESC or not is not relevant for anything.

Keiino as mustard
Keiino as mustard
8 days ago

Some observations now the dust has settled:

1. Voting from start fairer.

2. Joost’s disqualification spoilt show but we don’t know the facts.

3. Olly’s song one of the better ones but sounded a bit shaky at start.

4. Camerawork damaged Norway as big moments missed by stupid long distance shots. Graham Norton’s negativity unfair. Juries must be nuts to vote such an epic and well performed song so lowly.

5. Pleased that Armenia and Portugal got recognition.

6. Windows 95 Man fun and deserves more credIt and votes!

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago

What did Graham say about Norway? 🙁

Azuro
Azuro
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

“Can safely say we won’t be hearing that again at the end of the show”

Arsenic
Arsenic
8 days ago
Reply to  Azuro

How kind. Isn’t his retirement overdue yet?

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
8 days ago

We had Mothersday 2day in the NLD’s.
I didnt watch the Grand Final last nite as of Joost’s disqualification.

The coming week I’ll make some space for watching it,

Making my Mind Up!

Iamme
Iamme
7 days ago

Austria was damaged by cameramen more than all.

Orla burke
Orla burke
8 days ago

Anyone work out who would have won the jury vote if only the finalists were allowed vote ?

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Orla burke

Anyone work out who would have won if it was still the pre-2016 system?

Robert
Robert
7 days ago
Reply to  Orla burke

I do it when I come from work.

Samo
Samo
8 days ago

One interesting side note – EBU never uploaded the You’re Good To Go musc video to YouTube. This is unusual as all other interval acts are there, and they even released the song on Spotify. This suggest they pulled it out at the last minute, presumably to avoid a complete shtshow towards Osterdahl in the comments. I’m a bit sad about it because it was a really good performance, it just came at the worst possible timing when Osterdahl is hated by just about everyone.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Samo

They could have just disabled comments.

Robert
Robert
8 days ago
Reply to  Samo

And because she says it’s the song number 27, which doesn’t work now lol

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
8 days ago
Reply to  Samo

Ooh yeah, The comments section would be an absolute mind field. Probably for the best.

Keiino as mustard
Keiino as mustard
8 days ago

I think it was poor form from Abba in not making any appearance at all. Eurovision is what made them – presenting the trophy would have been a nice touch. Instead we just give them free publicity for the ABBA Voyage show. They need to show some humility and give back to Eurovision.

Samo
Samo
8 days ago

I mean ABBA is free to choose not to participate, they are no longer active in the real sense of the world, but I agree that in that case, SVT shouldn’t have used the most attractive time slot to give them a free advertisement.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Samo

ABBA are active in some ways. Benny and Björn will be appearing for a Q and A at the London show later this month. A quick trip to Malmö would not have been impossible… but again, for the final time I’ll remind myself that they owe us nothing.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago

Their talent is what made them. Brighton was 50 years ago. They owe us nothing.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Also, like I said earlier, B and B wrote a great opening number for 2013, together with Avicii. We Write the Story. I loved it, but yet it is forgotten. Meanwhile, Love Love Peace Peace renaming cherished and acclaimed.

Again, they owe us nothing!

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

remains

Ari
Ari
8 days ago

No. Their songs made them. Selling their products made them. It’s been over 50 years, they need to show nothing just because EBU and SVT insist on milking this thing til infinity.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Ari

I was at Voyage on April 6th, the actual anniversary, where everyone in the audience got a free glass of Prosecco to mark the occasion. Also a Waterloo pin badge. That’s enough.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Ari

Although admittedly I was secretly hoping that one of them might show up on the night. Alas, anyone hoping for that went to the wrong show. Björn was across town at Mamma Mia, for the 25th anniversary of THAT on the same night. He made a speech at curtain call, where he said if Waterloo had not won in Brighton he probably would not be standing there now, in 2024.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago

I just re-watched the end few minutes of the winner announcement. I didn’t even notice it last night, what with all the excitement, but Bambie coming over and literally crowning Nemo was lovely and so generous. What a great soul.

Darren
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

I don’t think we will ever see the likes of them again at Eurovision for Ireland. Nemo wearing the crown in their winning performance was the closest we got to winning

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Bambie could do a Jedward-style two in a row

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Not a good idea. I don’t think they can top it. I’d rather see New and innovative artist take Eurovision by storm

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  BadWoolfGirl

They could do something completely different. Something nonresident like their wonderful Love Bites. Really show off how well they can sing.

Compromise… Bambie can skip a year, and come back in 2026 to triumph. Like Dima Bilan.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Nonresident? What does that even mean?

I really need to start proofreading before I click post.

Darren
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

lol I guess nonresident kind of makes sense somewhat

Darren
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Ah I think just like Jedwards second attempt, the spark just wouldn’t be there, they just wouldn’t be able to top what they did.

Would be happy to be wrong though of course.
It will be interesting t see where we go now going forward. I was filled with serious optimism after 2018, only to come back in Tel Aviv with possibly our dullest entry ever, no offence to Sarah.

We will see what happens

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

I did see that actually. It was really sweet for the witch to crown the Codebreaker.

TheDrMistery
TheDrMistery
8 days ago

Was I the only one to imagine too much about what will going on during ABBA’s tribute in 50th anniversary of their win (apparently the major reason Sweden won last year)? Because what was presented… was not it. It was tacky and boring. I don’t care if it’s from museum or whatever. Either give us real people or don’t do it at all.

MissYouMrTakeItAway
MissYouMrTakeItAway
8 days ago
Reply to  TheDrMistery

Yes, that and many other things felt uninspired this year.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  TheDrMistery

I imagined too much too, like I say below, but that’s probably my own fault. Benny said a flat NO to appearing right after Liverpool.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Also no way was it ever the major reason Sweden won last year. That’s ludicrous.

Iván el Conquistador
Iván el Conquistador
8 days ago

A man wearing a pink skirt wins. We have failed as society, don’t wonder why Russia and China are laughing at us.

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago

Is there ANY rational reason why men should NOT wear pink skirts?

Did society not fail when women started wearing blue trousers?

Bani
Bani
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Lecture us Jonas, the rational reason why men should YES wear a pink skirt?…
Awaiting your news…

Jonas
Jonas
7 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Well, number one reason is that clothing acts as a way to keep us warm and protect our modesty. Walking around the streets naked might get us in trouble.

Milan
Milan
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Some (not me) would say – even more so… 🙂

Jo.
Jo.
8 days ago

i’d wear if they paid me well

Jonas
Jonas
8 days ago
Reply to  Jo.

China and Russia, model societies. An example for us all.

Flo_o
Flo_o
8 days ago