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The Eurovision Reference Group is an executive committee that controls the running of the Eurovision Song Contest, writing the rules and making decisions about the format. Formed of the Eurovision Executive Supervisor, the Heads of Delegations of three countries, and Executive Producers of previous contests, it was this group that permitted Israel’s inclusion in Eurovision 2024 with “Hurricane,” after requesting multiple revamps to remove politically-charged lyrics from the song. But now, a former member of the Reference Group has spoken up and said this was the wrong decision.

Miša Molk is a producer and television personality who has worked extensively within the Slovenian Eurovision delegation. She was also a member of the Eurovision Reference Group from 2001-2009. 

Appearing on TV programme Odmevi, Molk was asked by host Igor Bergant whether we are witnessing the beginning of the end of Eurovision as we know it:

“I think we’re close. Although deceiving you with the words of bread and games is deceptive and very misleading. It is also humiliating to those who have no bread, who have no roof over their heads, who have no water, who have no life. For this reason, I think that it can no longer stand in this form and that this glorification of war crimes through music is shameful.”

Molk has previously called out the “feigned apoliticalness” of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU), which organises the contest. Adding to this in the interview, she said the bans on flags and Palestinian symbols didn’t address the root cause of the issue, which should have been solved by not allowing Israel to participate at Eurovision this year.

“There were very many bans, yet the most necessary ones were not in place: The ones you might expect, i.e. that Israel would not participate or that the event itself would be cancelled this year. So there were many possibilities. The EBU has tried very hard to prevent any conflicts, oppositions, but…

[interrupted by Bergant: “Didn’t that actually cause more of them?”]

“Yes, some anger and internal rebellion […] Seeing the hatred and suffering on Earth. With this, we descended into the dark side of life, which can also be real, but the Earth has escaped us in the meantime.”

To conclude, Molk was questioned about the future of Eurovision after the controversial events of the 2024 edition, and whether Slovenia should be part of it.

The former Reference Group member gave a warning that the desire to compete and put on a big show means many will be too quick to forget the despair that surrounded this year’s contest. Since the Israel-Gaza conflict could likely still be in a similar position come May 2025, Molk noted that next year’s event would see a return to the same mistakes if action isn’t taken on the matter.

“Of course, the leaders and those responsible here will decide on Slovenian participation. […] We forget very quickly, we forget too quickly, we love to compete, we love to guess, and we love the spectacle. And since the world isn’t going to change much until next year, and I wish it would, we’re probably going to get back into the contest of bread and games.”

What do you make of Miša Molk’s comments about Israel’s participation at Eurovision 2024? Let us know in the comments below.

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Eva
Eva
2 days ago

If it were a normal fair competition, only music would count, not politics. Why wouldn’t Israel take part? The jury’s open boycott of Israel and Ukraine and great favoritism towards Metler violate the Competition rule. The result should be canceled because there were irregularities and violation of the regulations

Karl
Karl
4 days ago

Israeli outlet Ynet confirms Eden Golan’s televote advertising campaign was organised by the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/sykjyhaza

Ricardo
Ricardo
4 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Yep! It’s confirmed! Astroturfing at its best. From the article: “The support Golan received from the European audience was preceded by a campaign by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the government publicity office for Eurovision fans, in which the Israeli representative addressed them in French, Italian, Spanish, German, Czech, Latvian, Estonian, Albanian, Georgian and English – and asked them to vote for her.”  “The videos taken by Golan were uploaded to a dedicated YouTube channel and received more than 14 million views. The campaign appealed to audiences selected based on a careful analysis of the voting patterns of countries… Read more »

Karl
Karl
4 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Thanks for elaborating on this. I posted the link on other wiwi articles. Can you please reply to my comments there with this extra information to inform the public of the shenanigans that israel engaged in?

Ricardo
Ricardo
4 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Done! Hasbara bots incoming…

The truth
4 days ago
Reply to  Karl

I was called a leftist, a liar and an antisemite fir saying what you have just said. Thanks for posting this.

brobb
brobb
3 days ago
Reply to  The truth

I don’t think campaigning is illegal in Eurovision.

brobb
brobb
3 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Is that illegal? There was mobilization/campaigning, which doesn’t mean KAN paid people to vote or set up bots. If another country did this, I don’t think people would be complaining as much.

The truth
3 days ago
Reply to  brobb

When other countries did it they were heavily criticized. When you read comments such as, “I don’t even know what ESC is but I will answer the call to vote for Israel.” “I’ve never watched the ESC before but I will vote for Israel.” It all just makes you wonder. Besides Israel never hides the fact that its Parliament each year votes for a budget.running into millions to pay social influencers, propagandists etc to put forward Israeli interests and for silencing opposition. So many wouldn’t put it past it that people were actually paid to vote.

Ricardo
Ricardo
4 days ago

Nemo being fantastic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DqP-Xdj3jk

And they are using Celine Dion’s outfit.

Ricardo
Ricardo
4 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

It would be so cool if Eurovision had a live orchestra again. Instead of spending money on pyrotechnics the money would be better used to pay the musicians.

Ricardo
Ricardo
4 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

SRG SSR need look no further. You have your work cut out for you. This is the perfect performance to open Eurovision 2025. Furthermore, the orchestra is from Nemo’s city, Biel.

Jonas
Jonas
4 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

I love everything about that.

Tony
Tony
5 days ago

I don’t think that Israels participation was the biggest problem. No the biggest problem was, that there was more show than music. It was disgusting to watch Spain and their pathetic performance with 2 fat men dancing half naked. Not to forget UK. That was really shameful to watch. I am happy they got a very deserved 0 points from the public. Next year I hope we will see a Eurovision for the whole family and with focus on music and singing.

Karl
Karl
5 days ago
Reply to  Tony

Except Israel’s participation was the biggest problem.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Says the President of the “Eurovision CLOWN Club” in person: Karl 🙂

Zach
Zach
4 days ago
Reply to  Tony

As an avid Eurovision fan from half way around the world, I was in Spain when Sweden won last year and can tell you that this year I was too busy to hear all of the songs until the week of the contest. From the first moment I heard the Spanish entrant this year I was enchanted not by the staging or stuff but by the music. It has not left my mind. Music can be heard in a vacuum but if that’s the case it can just be a radio program but we live in a time where we… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
4 days ago
Reply to  Tony

It’s okay, Tony, you can come out from under the bed now… the gay monsters have gone away.

Mark wood
4 days ago
Reply to  Tony

Oooooo you hate difference whatever homophobe

Jack
Jack
2 days ago
Reply to  Tony

As a gay man I want to disagree with you but I just can’t. The overly sexualised performances do spoil it a little bit. I feel that the UK would have received public points if it wasn’t so sexualised. I love the campness of Eurovision but agree, the Spanish dancers didn’t look hot or good in their outfits they looked terrible. I wish sometimes people were a bit more subtle l.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago

IS THIS FOR REAL FROM THE UK?….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0clgpCqB84

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
5 days ago

I am not a bot, but I cannot prove otherwise.
Or can I?
Suggestions on how to prove we are not bots are welcome.
As for the actual post story, comparing Eurovision to Ancient Rome (bread and circuses) is absurd. But I agree that changes need to happen.

Jonas
Jonas
5 days ago
Reply to  Purple Mask

Purple Bot

Bani
Bani
5 days ago

The truth (below) is actually THE LIE!!! What a SC@m….(A well known tactics of L3ft0ids to wordwash their Pr0p@ganda). The pseudo reporting comes from Grayzone and W. Reed – who is a correspondent and managing editor of The Grayzone. He is a journalist at the Russian state-owned news agency SPUTNIK !!!!!! What THE LIE (aka The Truth) won’t do to spread F@KE NEWS…. 

https://www.fakeobservers.org/biased-observation-database/details/_591.html

Rory
Rory
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

You are truly deranged.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Deal with it

The truth
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Triggered much?

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  The truth

Good you got the drift 🙂

The truth
4 days ago
Reply to  Bani

The grayzone is run by Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate who are both Jews and they also have a number of other Jewish contributors. I guess you would describe them as self- hating Jews since you cannot call them antisemitic.

The truth
5 days ago

PARENTAL WARNING: Some unstable hasbara propagandists and bots have taken over this thread. They don’t even have the decency to disguise their vileness towards others or their blatant disregard for human decency as long as it does not concern only them. Bots who call others out as following fake news when the fake and manipulated news is the one that they follow since it embraces a lack of moral compass. One needs to protect oneself from the dehumanisation of other people and their denigrating anyone who dares criticizes and calls out war crimes and crimes against humanity. If the EBU… Read more »

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
5 days ago
Reply to  The truth

AMEN

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  The truth

Another l3ftoid lecturing Morality…. What the H3ll UK is doing in MALVINAS (Falkland Islands)???? Colonizing Argentinian land???? K1lling 700 Argentinias??? (Argentinians were NOT hiding behind childres… They were MEN!!!) And you dare to lecture Moral Compass?
If it would be a stand-up comedy I would laugh…. 🙂

The truth
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Poor poor Bani

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  The truth

Poor is the one that needs label himself (truth) differently than what he really is (Lie)…. 🙂

The truth
4 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Lol. Continue deluding yourself.
As the saying goes, “Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat.” – Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.

Bani
Bani
4 days ago
Reply to  The truth

Lol me… and you can continue living in your denial.
Since you are so poetic.. I’ll gift you back: “We sure live in an era of SMART Phones and STUPID people”…. 🙂

The truth
4 days ago
Reply to  Bani

What denial dear Bani? The one doing all the denying is you over here. You should know all about smart phones. They were working in overdrive last week and as to stupid people well……. now run along and let the adults do the talking. It is way beyond you.

Bani
Bani
2 days ago
Reply to  The truth

Nah…. That shows how limited YOU are (don’t project you impairment to others). As the well known L3FT0IDS tactics: Silence you adversaries rather than openly debate… Just your lack of capacity

LawnaDellPlay
LawnaDellPlay
5 days ago

Piša

Rory
Rory
5 days ago

Wise words, the EBU made the wrong call this year. If the contest is truly apolitical than allow Russia and Belarus to come back next year. Belarus did the exact same thing Israel did with regards to sending a propaganda song. I also don’t remember many people having sympathy for the Russians who got booed for representing their country, and let’s be honest, Russians don’t have democracy so don’t even really have the same influence over their countries decisions that israeli’s do.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago

PARENTAL WARNING: Some unstable Teletubbies in this thread (desguised as Humanitarian saviours) – are here in the purpose of denigrating the community m0ral compass with F@KE news and cheap LEFT0ID pr0paganda. Make sure you and your loved ones are protected.

Karl
Karl
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Deperate hasbara bot much?

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

We learn a new thing every day. It’s the first time I heard about the concept of Hasbara.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_diplomacy_of_Israel

Wow, they are very organized and methodical.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Desperate Karl?? hahahaha…. It’s just MY!! (not hasbara) warm up… 🙂

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

BBOOOOHOOOOO, but that will be filtered out as you might know by now.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  FizzPunk

1….2….3…..4…… 🙂 🙂

Darren
Darren
5 days ago

Do bots, or their handlers actually think downvoting works?
We ALL know the truth

Karl
Karl
5 days ago
Reply to  Darren

They are desperate. They’re same bot army they use for vote manipulation. It’s funny to see these hasbarats scrambling lol

Darren
Darren
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

You can sense the frantic typing in each comment
I find it hilarious lol like catch a breath

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

And ANOTHER hit in the Antizionist Bullsh°t bingo.
Maybe Hannibal Directive next?

Nitzan
Nitzan
5 days ago

How predictable Wiwi that after almost no coverage of the Israeli entry this year, this shameful headline by a former member gets a headline. “Glorification of war crimes”? Shame on her and shame on you for spreading this hateful rubbish.

Karl
Karl
5 days ago
Reply to  Nitzan

Imagine pretending all is good when the entity called israel is openly committing gen.o.cide as the world watches.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Israel is openly commiting the PROTECTION of the Western Culture (before it collapses to isl@mism as it’s rotting Europe already… and then – a BIG prayer to the L.G.B.T.Q. ++ community living happily ever after…).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBC4PI65eBg

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Nitzan

From the beginning, the Wiwiblogs team was clear that they would limit coverage of the Israeli delegation, because they did not agree with the criminal actions of the Israeli government. There’s nothing to be ashamed of. The shame lies on the side that is committing g3noc1de and apartheid and on those who collude in these atrocities.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Ricardo, those words are soooo incosistent with the REALITY… Israel is committing: The RELIEF and INCLUSION of HUMANITY like no other nation in the world!! A bit of decensy will make you more alluring (than a squezzed Lemon)….Try it!! You desrve BETTER than YOURSELF 🙂

Rory
Rory
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

You can’t honestly think this is true – settlers have been caught in the past couple of days intercepting aid trucks and burning them, throwing out the food inside. Why would they do this if not to spread misery? Why are they starving children on purpose?

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Because they are @ssholes who probably think, that they can use it as leverage to pressure H@m@ss to release the hostages and also to cause harm. Which is futile and thus unacceptable. It however highlights the fact, that there is nothing that can pressure H@m@s to end this, whereas USA an UK can pressure ISrael.

Rory
Rory
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Exactly, the settlers are so hateful they are purposefully starving their own hostages.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Rory

In every civilized legal system, it is the obligation of the kidnapper to provide for his victim. If H@m@s cannot feed the hostages or provide their medical care, they can release them. If not and they cause harm or death of the hostages, it is the fault of the kidnapper.

Rory
Rory
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Well Israel doesn’t care much about the civilised legal system when it comes to building illegal settlements in the West Bank , so it’s not exactly a country where the rule of law is followed. Whatever H@m@s SHOULD do, the settlers know that they are harming the hostages by burning the trucks. Maybe they don’t want them back because then the war would be over and Netanyahu would have to give up power? Who knows

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Okay, so you are basicly accusing Isr@el of war crimes, which is legit but are condoning a war crimes yourself?

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Nobody is condoning war crimes. Lots of people have expressed that the monsters from both sides must be sent to The Hague.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Are you his spokesperson now? Why are you answering for him, just curious? What he wrote is obviously an approval of the hostage taking and a shift of responsibility to Isr@el. And btw what he wrote is utter nonsense as even before this cret/ns started blocking the aid, there were reports from the rele@sed host@ges, that the food rations are scarce and that even one of the girls was forced to do slave work for a family, cook for them and was withheld food herself. And does Rory think that the settlers are also responsible for the @buse of the… Read more »

Rory
Rory
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Im not sure where you’re getting the idea that I’m condoning what H@mas did, but I’m not going to expect the same adherence to law from a terorist group that i would expect from a supposedly “civilised nation”. my own country (ireland) had a very long religous based conflict in northern ireland which also involved terrorism on both sides, the UK, for all their faults, NEVER even tried to suggest it wouldbhave been justified to enact collective punishment on catholics in belfast after IRA attacks

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Ahh..New members in the Morally Corrupt Club!! Are you actually asking Israel to feed their murd3r3rs??????… Are you ins@ne???… The equation is simple: NO h0st@ges – NO food !! TELL H@M@s to ManUp (STOP hiding behind children), return h0stages and get food to their people….Simpe hey? Why don’t you do it?? Show your C0J0NES !! H@M@ is starving their OWN people

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Settlers???? What settlers?? LIBERATORS !!!! They are liberating the WB from the squatters that colonized ISRAELI territory!! Amazing how the aka B@lest1nians are occupying in the WB – Hebrew biblical land since 1200 BCE in Judea (aka jews) and Samaria (the indigenous Hebrews). Arab/Muslims only appeared in 610. Almost 2000 years later !!! So don’t flip the TRUTH!!

Rory
Rory
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

so you think because some Jews lived there thousands of years ago you think modern day American settlers are allowed to just show up and kill the people living there now, who have been there for generations? What sort of barbarian logic is that? The settlements in the West Bank are illegal

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Rory

What k1llings???…. in the WB??? are you on medication??

Rory
Rory
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Isreal has killed 500 people in the West Bank since October 7th as well as the thousands that they’ve driven off their land and burned down their villages, mostly Bedouin. I know you’re a hasbara bot but surely even you know about that

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Sure the “Fluffy Angels”… Those that come with a kn1fe to k1ll civilans in Bus Stops… These you call people?? Someone decent calls them t3rror1sts. At least be happy now that they finally met their 72 promised virg1ns in heaven… (Happy sh@h1ds) 🙂

And who cares about hasbara when you represent the “Champagne S0cialist” cast? (hope it is well bubbly though) 🙂

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Sebas
Sebas
5 days ago

Bots be going hard in this comment section with downvoting and upvoting.

Epicurean
Epicurean
5 days ago
Reply to  Sebas

Yeah the Israelis found this blog and see that their behaviour is exposed 😀

Jack
Jack
5 days ago

There was absolutely no glorification of war crimes whatsoever, the hysterical response from the “fans” and artists is absolutely unreal. The artists had the power to boycott and withdraw and they all chose to perform, very hypocritical of them all really. The sustained bullying campaign of a 20 year old Jewish girl just because she comes from Israel has been really eye opening. Well done for absolutely spoiling Eurovision this year with your unwarranted hysteria. I expect to see every single one of you protesting in Paris next month but you won’t because you are just hypocritical keyboard warriors

Rory
Rory
5 days ago
Reply to  Jack

Allowing Israeli flags and not pal estine’s, using anti-booing devices to cover the true audience reaction to the song, clearly favouring one side over the other would seem like pretty obvious glorification to me. Also are you living under a rock? There are huge protests planned for Paris

jack
jack
5 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Why would they allow Palestinian flags? Palestine do not compete in Eurovision and are not members of EBU

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  jack

The banning of flags is ridicule. They even banned the EU flag which is also the Council of Europe flag. That’s stupid. All flags should be allowed. It’s a matter of freedom of speech.

Rory
Rory
5 days ago
Reply to  jack

So? If it’s “apolitical” why does it matter? We’ve seen people fly flags from many countries not in the EBU before and no-one had a problem. Suddenly we can’t even fly the EU flag?

Putin
Putin
4 days ago
Reply to  Jack

one girl booed for the actions of her hoverment vs 35000 ( thirty five thousand) slaughtered for the actions of terrorists

Fatima
Fatima
5 days ago

The simplest thing to do would be to order that only countries in Europe can enter the Eurovision Song Contest. Even though that would also rule out Australia.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

You are apparently uneducated about the EBU chart…. Read it (You see I found you a good program for the upcoming weekend – and I didn’t even charge you for the offering 🙂 )

Alaska
Alaska
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

OK, let’s continue with the education then. The European broadcasting area includes all of North Africa and most of the Middle East, plenty of countries who don’t participate because of the presence of Israel. We want Morocco (back), and also Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, etc., in Eurovision. We also want a free Palestine in Eurovision.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Alaska

Yeah, the democratic and human rights spirit would certainly surge with the entrance fo these beacons of humanity. Why not invite the Houthis and Iran too?

FunQ
FunQ
5 days ago
Reply to  Alaska

It will be nice to see that with all those countries participating, LGBTQI+ artist could be threatened or being said their style of life is unruly to whatever god these people praise. So, your idea is just as stupid as many other I’ve been reading in the comments here.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Alaska

Alaska – “WE” you mean “I” ?????….. Since when you became DID??? 🙂

Antananarivo
Antananarivo
5 days ago

Mrs. Molk, shame of you ! You´re speaking rubbish !

Bani
Bani
5 days ago

Lol the Left0ids are so desperate to DISTORT the truth!! Look at them in this thread lmao

Epicurean
Epicurean
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Leftoids? Are you 8 years old?

You are an anti-Semite

Bani
Bani
4 days ago
Reply to  Epicurean

Bla bla bla labels…. here is one back to you: CHAMPAGNE SOCIALIST 🙂

Karl
Karl
5 days ago

Lol the Israel bots are so desperate to hide the truth! Look at them here in this thread lmao

Bani
Bani
5 days ago

BREAKING: F@KE NEWS (!!!) about VOTE MANIPULATION !!! What the distinguished @activist Karl (below) is trying to push – is monumentally F@KE / SC@M NEWS (Be aware!!!). The pseudo reporting comes from Grayzone and W. Reed – who is a correspondent and managing editor of The Grayzone. He is a journalist at the Russian state-owned news agency SPUTNIK !!!!!! What people won’t do to spread F@KE NEWS…. (Karl is really trying hard to spread his Pr0paganda… hence the clean-up is necessary… 🙂 )

Karl
Karl
5 days ago

BREAKING: “Israel astroturfed Eurovision vote but lost anyway, govt admits”
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/05/14/israel-astroturfed-eurovision-vote/

Tulilintu
Tulilintu
5 days ago

And suddenly, Zionists are popping like an infectious bacteria in wiwiblogs.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Tulilintu

The space is sanityzed from left0ids 🙂

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

It would be interesting to find out, if the people here know, that it was Papa Joe Stal/in himself, who approved Czechoslovakia to send arms and (crappy) airplanes, thus enabling the independence of Isr@el and only after Isr@el declined to join the Soviet bloc, the massive antizion/sm took grip of the Eastern Bloc with kangaroo trials, mass murders, torture etc.

Jojo
Jojo
5 days ago
Reply to  Tulilintu

And filthy antisemitic sick people like yourself feel encouraged to raised their head and make wiwiblogs a play grounds for haters

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

Repeat after me for the umpteenth time: condemning the criminal actions of the Israeli state and army is not being anti-Semitic. Don’t empty the meaning of the word.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Yeah, Yeah Ricardo… very convincing 🙂 🙂 Troll

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Jojo
Jojo
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Repeat after me moron
As an atheist but 1st generation to 94 years old holocust survivor from Italy , you have no say on what is or isn’t antisemitism. Anti Israel is new form of antisemitism. I’m sure you can’t ask your father about it. .the filth that is spreading here crossed the line along time.ago from a legitimate criticism of government action to pure hatred and antisemitism. Don’t ever lecture me about antisemitism if you never experienced it on your own skin .

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

You are not the owner of the definition of antisemitism. People are condemning all te atrocities that are being committed, but since the narrative doesn’t suit you, you try to twist de meaning of things. You are the filth one, that treat others as sub-human.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

There is a phrase in Arabic Ricardo that you should learn: “KUL KALB BIJI YOMO”!! – for all the ones that support and perpetraded 7/10… What we say in French: C’est la Vie 🙂

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Nitzan
Nitzan
5 days ago
Reply to  Tulilintu

When someone pulls out the word “Zionist” like that, the leading term in their hateful propaganda campaign, you immediately know this person knows very little about the conflict or even the meaning of this word. Go get yourself educated instead of spreading hate like that.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Nitzan

Zionist, Kulak, Bourgeois, Imperialist, Capitalist, Reactionary, Class-Enemy….they always need a term to project their ideologically-fed hatred.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago

BREAKING: F@KE NEWS (!!!) about VOTE MANIPULATION !!! What the distinguished @activist Karl (below) is trying to push – is monumentally F@KE / SC@M NEWS (Be aware!!!). The pseudo reporting comes from Grayzone and W. Reed – who is a correspondent and managing editor of The Grayzone. He is a journalist at the Russian state-owned news agency SPUTNIK !!!!!! What people won’t do to spread F@KE NEWS…. 

Karl
Karl
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Why don’t you learn READING Karl…. NONE (!!!) of your F@KE narrative is mentioned in this article… Take an aspirin (you are overhyped… pay attention to your heart)

Eyal
Eyal
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

I just read it and didn’t see any report about it. Maybe you are right, but how can we tell without evidence?

Karl
Karl
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

An Israeli reporter for The New York Times and Israeli newspaper Haaretz also reported on it.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Yes both of them funded by “Open Society” aka Sorros…

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

LOL, for this people, even Soros (a Jew) is antisemite. They’re more twisted than a pretzel.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

There are also Jews who are mentally challenged – like Sorros (You see… like all NORMAL people) 🙂

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago

Another frightening report from G@z@:

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1790418169217032355

It’s like they are playing the Hunger Games with medical and aid workers.

Eyal
Eyal
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

We have enough news websites, or news on social networks. Do you have something about ESC? maybe about Nemo, the winner? we can at least find a little room to say a word about the show.

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Eyal

Sorry you have to cope with the truth. But this is why Israel should have excluded itself from the competition. Instead, they decided to use it as a propaganda platform. Now you have to deal with de backlash.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Israel was NOT the problem !! The Isl@mist Lunatics Europe imported were/are the tr0uble makers… Now deal with it !!

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Cassette
Cassette
5 days ago

In one of advertisments, Eden Golan denounced “the wave of hatred and Muslim demonstrations in Malmö”. So she is basically weaponising and demonising a faith to cynically obtain more points.
?This is obscenely racist to say as it wasn’t just Muslims protesting in Malmo and elsewhere.
Can you imagine the outcry if someone dare say such a thing about the Jewish community. Heads would roll.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

Ohh…. She learned the drift from BAMBIE… 🙂

Jojo
Jojo
5 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

The count of antisemitic people here is growing Another natzi propaganda expert

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

Repeat after me for the umpteenth time: condemning the criminal actions of the Israeli state and army is not being anti-Semitic. Don’t empty the meaning of the word.

Rory
Rory
5 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

So saying that it’s bad to generalize about Muslims now makes you a natzi? I guess you are the same people the think criticising the Israeli government makes you antisemitic so comprehension of words isn’t your strong point but damn

Karl
Karl
5 days ago

Jonathan, Ruxandra, or someone at wiwibloggs, please write an article on Israel’s vote manipulation. I just posted the link to the source.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Yes Jonathan, Ruxandra, or someone at wiwibloggs, please debunk Karl’s agenda as F@KE / SC@M… (about time). Great to see the left0ids meltdown when they are unable to distort the truth…

Paul
Paul
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Only one having a meltdown appears to be you.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Paul

Look at the mirror – see yourself 🙂

Karl
Karl
5 days ago

BREAKING: Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs admits to vote manipulation in other countries to boost Eden Golan’s televote score, as reported by The Time of Israel and The Grayzone.

Sun
Sun
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

If that’s true, what else is needed to permanently expel iZrael from ESC?

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Sun

Just F@KE !! Relax…

Jojo
Jojo
5 days ago
Reply to  Sun

I also read that jews and Israelis were drinking wine made from sweedish kids blood to celebrate their victory .
Yeah It was in this website http://www.bring.back.hitler.eu.com

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

I thought you use the bl@@d of goyim children for the macot? (Sarcasm)

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Can you provide a link, please?

Karl
Karl
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

I did in my initial message but the website wouldn’t publish it so I had to remove it. I’ll try again.

Karl
Karl
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

thegrayzone . com/2024/05/14/israel-astroturfed-eurovision-vote/

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Thanks! The pieces are falling into place.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Nope… The pieces are falling apart… 🙂

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Ask Lily Allen to sponsor you Ricardo… You are doing her a great service 🙂

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Epicurean
Epicurean
5 days ago

The Israel bot farms found wiwibloggs 😀

Marlinken
Marlinken
5 days ago
Reply to  Epicurean

They’ve been here for weeks.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Epicurean

Very enetertaining to see the Left0ids meltdown and triggered…

Epicurean
Epicurean
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Nobody is triggered. Clear to see the bots :)))

You’re a sad pos supporting mass m4rdrr of Arabs. Making you… an anti-Semite.

Bani
Bani
4 days ago
Reply to  Epicurean

Again playing the “Labeling” game?? Who cares what you call me? (Def. NOT me 🙂 ). I also know playing the game: LEFT0ID… 🙂

Azuro
Azuro
5 days ago

Who? Even the article acknowledges this person not been relevant for 15 years.

Can’t wait to hear from the head of hair and make up from the 1995 polish delegation to find out their stance on the matter.

Jonas
Jonas
5 days ago
Reply to  Azuro

Justyna is a genius

Eyal
Eyal
5 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

‘Sama’ was a wonderful opener in 95′, maybe 18th position was too low.

MartyMcCu
MartyMcCu
5 days ago

Just ban Israel next year . By then its leaders will be charged for war crimes .

Marlinken
Marlinken
5 days ago
Reply to  MartyMcCu

They won’t be charged with anything. The best thing would be to have the West cut off support. Then they’ll be isolated there. If Iran decides they want a full on war with Israel, the West doesn’t intervene and if any Israelis try fleeing to the West, then detain them while war crimes are investigated. Let Israel live with the disaster they’ve created.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Marlinken

Ladies and gentlemen, if you have ever asked yourself, why Stal*nist, Ma@ist, PolP@tist and other far-leftist democ/des were possible, then here is your answer. There is always enough fanatical disciples, who are ready to openly admit, they would help other people get slaughtered and the rest – women, men, children – detained in conc€ntration camps.
The question is, whether such fanatic xxxxx should be detained itself and if yes, if by the police or in the psychiatry ward of the nearest hospital.

Marlinken
Marlinken
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

“How dare you ask Israel to live with the consequences of our actions!” Also, the three politicians you’ve mentioned were all inspired by Karl Marx…

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Marlinken

Ok, N@ziboy.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Marlinken

They were already isolated in WWII – while taken “care” by vile people like you…. But – here they are back and resilient – to your unliking 🙂 …. Conclusion: You are a TOTAL failure Karl (it didn’t work then – it won’t work now)… time to digest it

Marlinken
Marlinken
5 days ago

POV: Israelis making a bigger mess of this comments section than they did of Eurovision.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Marlinken

Enjoy the journey 🙂

Jojo
Jojo
5 days ago
Reply to  Marlinken

And antisemitics like yourself are always on the watch so inform
Us

Tino
Tino
5 days ago

Funny to see all those new profiles popping in here 🙂 Not suspicious at all

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago

For those who keep arguing that everything started on October 7th:

https://twitter.com/CensoredMen/status/1790323348313944207

And with this, I defy the Israeli bots to downvote me. It will be an honor!

Darren
Darren
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Downvotes incoming

Straight up facts though

Marlinken
Marlinken
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Downvotes are a sign that you’ve hit on truths they want to cover up. I thought I’d heard all the evil that these people were capable of but that video is horrific. I think we all need to redouble our efforts to stop European countries from supporting Israel.

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Marlinken

I am really disappointed. They didn’t accept my challenge.

Bani
Bani
4 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Cause NO ONE (who knows the TRUTH) cares about your comment…

Jojo
Jojo
5 days ago
Reply to  Marlinken

Evil oh evil. Same old words some old methods. Antisemitism is genetic probably. I’m sure you it won’t take a long time to find your parents membership cards for Hitlers youth and your grandparents cheering for Hitler or Musolini .

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

Funny, a g3noc1de apologist trying to sling mud against others. Lack of self-awareness.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

As someone working in law enforcement i can assure you, that the sh/t posted here by Marlinken would already trigger the antiextremist department of the CI involved. I hope he is not German, § 86a and § 130 are waiting for him 🙂

Marlinken
Marlinken
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Hit a nerve have I? If I’ve posted anything untrue, show me how it’s untrue. I’m a very reasonable person, willing to change my mind. But you don’t like dealing with facts, you just scream “A N T I S E M I T I S M” at them.

Also, no, not German. Try harder!

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

But can I ask you to comment the content of the link I posted above? I’m really interested in knowing your opinion.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Noone here says that it began on Oct 7th. It did not begin 1947/48 either.

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

So, in your opinion when did it begin.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

That is very hard to say. But basically (oversimplified) when Zionism as Jewish nationalism and the Panarab nationalism started to collide in their goals. Which would be around 1918/20.

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Yeah, I agree with you. Have you ever had the opportunity to watch the documentary from which the clip linked above was taken?

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

I recommend. It’s from 2022, it’s called “Tantura” and it was directed by Alon Schwarz, an Israeli. It’s a testament that there are immense sins that both sides have to atone for and it was one of the most soul crushing experiences I’ve had in years. I’ll also leave a link to an interview with the director. His views of him are very interesting:

https://povmagazine.com/tantura-director-alon-schwarz-talks-memory-and-healing/

Samo
Samo
5 days ago

I don’t think Hurricane glorifies the events of the October war crimes, quite the opposite.

Enough with the victim blaming. Europe has voted and wants Israel in. The ones who need to leave are the ones who keep bringing politics into the contest and caused all of the bad blood this year by unnecessary political statements.

Alaska
Alaska
5 days ago
Reply to  Samo

Europe doesn’t give a sh*t about Israel being in Eurovision or not. The demographic that massively voted for Israel is the same demographic that has been massively voting for far-right/fasc*st parties to be elected for the Parliaments in their respective countries.

Jojo
Jojo
5 days ago
Reply to  Alaska

Your ignorance is screaming for help. Whoever voted for far right in Europe knows very well who is threatening your western values , culture and way of life.
It’s the growing numbers of Muslim immigrants plus their natural growth with many more kids per family. It has nothing to do with the insignificant number of jews in Europe. Haven’t read so much stupidity in my life .half an hour here and my IQ is on free fall

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Samo

You’re being naive. The original name of the song was “October Rain”. Even the morally corrupt EBU couldn’t swallow that one.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

They should have sent “The Screams of Noa”…

MartyMcCu
MartyMcCu
5 days ago
Reply to  Samo

AI wants Israel in .

Ifty
Ifty
5 days ago

Glorification of war crimes? Really? Which line of the song exactly? ???????

Alaska
Alaska
5 days ago
Reply to  Ifty

All the lines. All the words. All the letters. And the spaces in between.

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Alaska

Specially the spaces in between. These people think we are fools.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Fools not…. just ment@lly ch@llenged

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Jojo
Jojo
5 days ago
Reply to  Alaska

Seems like you don’t know how to read. Good that at least you recognize spaces in between.

david
david
5 days ago

WE DONT CARE WHAT THIS OLD BICH WOMEN SAID

ATLANTIC
ATLANTIC
5 days ago
Reply to  david

No need for that kind of language!

david
david
5 days ago
Reply to  ATLANTIC

Pardon me,i need to write ZORA

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  david

You don’t know how to write. It’s ZORRA. And if you’re going to use that slur against her, the meaning of that song flew over your head.

salomon the sardine
salomon the sardine
5 days ago
Reply to  david

LOL!!! 10/10 🙂

Nir
Nir
5 days ago

Another one of the loud minority, the silent majority is in favor of Israel, and it drives them crazy. Besides, hatred and jealousy make wrinkles

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Nir

LOL… the “silent majority”. The real majority are for peace, respect and human decency for everyone.

Darren
Darren
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

I cringe everytime I hear someone say they’re the silent majority

Not out of fear, just because it’s such a ridiculous statement to make

Paul
Paul
5 days ago
Reply to  Darren

People who claim to be in the “SiLeNt MaJoRiTy” are usually quite loud with their bigotry

Darren
Darren
5 days ago
Reply to  Paul

Yeah there’s definitely a “type” which is consistent with everyone who claims to be part of it.

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Darren

The expression “silent majority” comes originally from the American religious far-right. They think we were born yesterday. It’s all recycled hate.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

For the hammer-sIckle far-leftist, everything is fasc/st/far-right, when one disagrees. Some people here would have been excellent prosecutors in the kangaroo antiZ/ionist trials in the Stalinist 1950s in Czechoslovakia.

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Honey, you don’t give History lessons to me. In my country we also opposed the establishment of a communist dictatorship after overthrowing a fascist one. If you want to cultivate yourself, read a little about the Hot Summer of 1975 in Portugal. I’m old enough to hear the phrase “silent majority” from people like U.S. Senator Jesse Helms, a huge bigot, racist and segregationist.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Honey, noone is giving you history lessons, i was just refering to amazing similiarities between present-day and historical forms of totalitarian “antizionism”. And a small advice, cultivate yourself before telling others to do so. We Czechs had 40 hot summers because of the communist filth. so I know what i am talking about.

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

It’s you that are telling how others should think. I’m here only criticizing the criminal acts of a government.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Does H@m@s knows about it?…. Tell them Ricardo 🙂

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani

To you I only answer with music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFE6qQ3ySXE

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

That’s it???… Can you go LOWER? 🙂 🙂

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
salomon the sardine
salomon the sardine
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

I did not one single slogan for “Peace” among those demonstrations.

But i did saw: “intifada” ,”by all means” etc.
You want to see what u want to see. But deep inside – u know u r next

Iamme
Iamme
5 days ago

Please, you all: stop this anti-Israel campaign which will lead nowhere.
It’s just adding hate to hate.
And stop comparing Israel to Russia: this just remarks ignorance.

Yasyas
Yasyas
5 days ago
Reply to  Iamme

Why can’t we compare? Lol.

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Iamme

It’s not anti-Israel. It’s against the criminal actions of the Israeli government. Many Israeli citizens are vehemently opposed to what is happening. One example for you:

https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1790441926694482105

That is a good human being. And that one knows what is g3noc1de.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

There is NO g3n0cide !!! Repeating lies – does not make it truth

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Paul
Paul
5 days ago
Reply to  Iamme

I’m hoping it leads to the Israeli war criminals going to the Hague tbh

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Paul

To be fair they all must go, Bibi, H@m@s, the monsters commanding the IDF. All of them!

Ifty
Ifty
5 days ago
Reply to  Iamme

Looks like wiwibloggs decided to fully lean into the toxicity no matter how antisemitic their comment section is getting.

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Ifty

FU and your use of the word “antisemitism”! I’m sick of you people playing the victims. Stop manipulating words. Nobody here is against Jews or the Israeli people. We are against the criminal actions of their government and armed forces.

Bani
Bani
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Yeah, yeah Ricardo…. you are very convincing….. 🙂 🙂

Ricardo
Ricardo
5 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Slabsson54
Slabsson54
5 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

(…) Beware?! You’re the people who will *never* get over what happened when Europeans last took action and fought against Bolshevism. Remember who you’re dealing with and remember that we’re much, much stronger than you. Tread carefully.(…)

Yeah, nobody..

Peace
Peace
5 days ago
Reply to  Iamme

Israel Russia, please tell me what’s the difference, They are the same. Israel behaving same as what the Nazi did to them.

Marlinken
Marlinken
5 days ago