Supergroup 5MIINUST x Puuluup took Estonia to another Eurovision grand final this year — and with the longest song title in the contest’s history, “(nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi.” But that’s not the only mouthful they’ve been spilling. Speaking on Vikerraadio’s Vikerhommik morning show, they discussed the political nature of Eurovision and shared their thoughts on Joost Klein’s disqualification.
“Nothing can be apolitical”
The members of the two groups declared upon their return that the overall experience and chance to perform on the Eurovision stage was enjoyable, and they were not personally affected by any political pressures. When discussing Eurovision’s aim to be an “apolitical” contest, Marko expressed that:
“By definition, nothing can be apolitical.
“Whenever people interact, politics are involved, no matter what they are doing. It’s just a question of where to set the boundaries and what to allow or disallow. It’s entirely normal for politics to prompt emotions in people.
“It’s part of the artist’s image and what you feel or think while watching a song. Whether Eurovision should be amended or cancelled for this reason is another question. It seems to me that overthinking things is also a bit pointless here. In the end, it’s just a fun singing competition, and I’m not sure if it should be tasked with anything in terms of world revolution.”
The scarf incident
5MIINUST x Puuluup didn’t feel much political pressure themselves at Eurovision, stating they tried not to be affected by the tensions and suggested that they were probably seen as a “group of men of a somewhat older, more respectable age.”
However, regarding the EBU’s checks for political symbols, Marko recalled a minor incident when a staff member ran after him in the hallway to ask if the scarf he had wrapped around his arm had any political significance. It turned out the scarf was simply from a sailing event in Estonia.
“I had a neck scarf tied around my arm for the Võrtsjärv week regatta, and it just fit.”
Joost Klein’s disqualification
In addition, Estoni was asked about the incident involving the Netherlands’ representative, Joost Klein, who was disqualified from the contest just a few hours before the grand final. The Estonian artist confessed that the news was confusing for the artists as well, due to the lack of information. Everyone had heard about the incident, but none of them were told what actually happened.
Estoni expressed his regret about what happened to his fellow contestant and said that he couldn’t judge or make a statement on the punishment without knowing any details.
“No one said anything about it. Everyone knew something happened, but no one knew quite what. Personally, I’m terribly sorry that Joost’s competition ended this way, but it is what it is. We still don’t know exactly what happened and whether the punishment was warranted.”
What do you think about the discussion of Eurovision’s political character by 5MIINUST x Puuluup? Do you think Eurovision can be apolitical? Let us know in the comments below.
Sorry but I;m glad they flopped in public vote and juries. We’ve had enough of this type of entries
they reached nr 8 on Viral global & no. 5 in Germany & UK. I wouldnt call it flop. They are on their 5th reprint of new album as well. & its bern out 1 month.
How did I know a degenerate like you would support musk and wilders, you know they both hate Jews right?
Was this before or after he re-instated the Twitter accounts of all the banned holocaust deniers?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna145020
So why does he allow holocaust denialism on his platform?
So holocaust denialism was banned in the platform for years, he brought it back and now you want us to believe at some point he’ll ban it again? Why did he allow it back?
If it took visiting Israel to realise that allowing people to spread holocaust denialism is wrong than there is something really wrong with him (and you) – and he still hasn’t actually done anything to stop it, he profits off antisemitism on his system and will continue to do so.
So you’re fine with Musk profiting from spreading holocaust denialism after it was banned on the platform for years? Many of the groups participating in the university campus protests are Jewish, are they also anti-semitic somehow?
Explain why you support someone that profits from spreading holocaust denial. Except you can’t. Because you’re an antisemite.
What a surprise that someone with the iq of a flea also supports Trump as well as musk the natzi sympathizer.
You’re tired of corruption so you support Trump who is currently on trial for corruption and bribery? Make it make sense hahahahaha
I’m guessing you love Putin too?
But didn’t you know Putin supports the Pa lestinians? If your HERO supports them why don’t you?
Sure, whatever you need to tell yourself.
I’m guessing you don’t get invited to many parties.
His support rises among brain-dead conspiracy theorists like you, that’s not really a surprise. You support the most corrupt leaders like Trump and Putin but claim to be against corruption, logic is not exactly your strong point.
Who is denying your right?
Yeah and millions and millions of Americans are braindead morons who believe whatever bullsh*t they see on Facebook, just like you.
The Romanian government paying the debt of the public television channel that they own is not unexpected or a scandal.
The Israeli ministry of foreign affairs creating a campaign to influence voting in other countries is contrary to the supposedly “apolitical” nature of the contest.
So you admit that Isreal interfered politically in the “apolitical” contest? Good to finally get some sense out of you.
Ok then explain how the ministry of foreign affairs AdVeRtIZINg the song isn’t political? Why is the ministry for foreign affairs involving themselves in Eurovision? Don’t they have children to starve?
H@m@s are not the ones preventing aid getting to the starving children, that would be the illegal settlers in Israel. Oh yes they really “took care” of her by using her as a propaganda tool – just like they use the hostages they don’t give a f**k about.
Did the polish ministry of foreign affairs create the video?
The Qatari ministry of foreign affairs created a promotional campaign for Poland? That’s what you’re trying to claim? Hahaha
Yes it’s so funny how now it’s been shown the Israeli government has tried to interfere in the contest you’re trying to change the subject hahahaha
No, that’s not the same thing at all. Trying to influence the votes of OTHER countries is not the same as assisting the country’s OWN national broadcaster financially. You know this but you’re trying to deflect from how much of an overstep this was on the Israeli government’s part, and how much it made a mockery of the “apolitical” nature of the contest.
Please explain how a government ministry involving themselves in promoting a Eurovision entry isn’t political – oh wait you can’t hahaha
So again you admit that Isreal tried to politically interfere in the contest. Finally you’re starting to talk some sense, you must have taken your pills at long last.
Israeli news source Ynet have confirmed that Israel’s televote advertising campaign was organised by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Remind me again how Eurovision is “apolitical”?
From the article: “The support Golan received from the European audience was preceded by a campaign by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the government publicity office for Eurovision fans, in which the Israeli representative addressed them in French, Italian, Spanish, German, Czech, Latvian, Estonian, Albanian, Georgian and English – and asked them to vote for her.” “The videos taken by Golan were uploaded to a dedicated YouTube channel and received more than 14 million views. The campaign appealed to audiences selected based on a careful analysis of the voting patterns of countries in the past and the interest those… Read more »
The ministry of foreign affairs creating a propaganda campaign for the entry makes the contest political, if you don’t see that you’re even dumber than your deranged comments make you seem.
I’m not sure how pointing out that you seem like a deranged person with a low iq and limited reading comprehension is corruption or a scam. I’m guessing you probably don’t know what either word means. I’m just going off the evidence you provide.
Love them, and their 100 % right but…
“group of men of a somewhat older, more respectable age.”
Well…
Making the green room a big bed. Fishing for votes.
And if you check TikTok, Kohver stealing from other contestants, the whole group in an elevator, hearing their song and in the end, stealing things.
If you dig, they’re a group, that tried to bring some joy in a chaotic year of ESC.
That respectable age part was irony I assume. 5Miinust guys are all born between 1987-1989. Guys from Puuluup are indeed maybe more respectable age.
Cope with reality, hasbara bot
Israeli outlet Ynet confirms Eden Golan’s televote advertising campaign was organised by the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/sykjyhaza
So the ministry of foreign affairs admit that they interfered in the voting process purposefully, and you still try to claim that Isreal’s participation is apolitical? Delusional. Deranged. Desperate.
Ynet confirmed it and has an article about it on their main page – or do you not trust Israeli news sources?
We live on the Matrix.
Do not believe in anything your eyes are seeing. It’s their mantra.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFE6qQ3ySXE
The participating Polish broadcaster did that, not their ministry of foreign affairs. You can’t see how that is different? The ministry of foreign affairs involving themselves in a Eurovision campaign is political.
I’m not sure why you keep desperately trying to change the subject and bring up completely non-related issues – presumably because you know you don’t have a leg to stand on. You’re an Islamophobic pos.
Deeply disappointed that lazy Graham Norton didn’t bother to say the title of their song
I bet Shakespeare would have been able to do it.
If there is a song if this year with potential to pull a Snap, it’s theirs. They deserve it for being so epic and legendary.
F***ing legends. <3
Finally some adults entering the conversation. Thank you, guys!
“Nothing can be apolitical” . 100% correct. Especially given the fact that Israel’s inclusion and special treatment by the EBU where 2 highly political decisions.
Also the fact that they were so terrified by simple scarfs that may or may not be keffiyeh shows how terrified they are of the public opinion swaying against Israel in this conflict.
Wise words from them.
Lovely guys.
Dankjewel Estonia ;D
“…Marko recalled a minor incident when a staff member ran after him in the hallway to ask if the scarf he had wrapped around his arm had any political significance. It turned out the scarf was simply from a sailing event in Estonia.”
The level of paranoia and the fear of annoying one and one delegation only is so exaggerated that almost sounds like a joke…
Totally ridiculous.
It only reflects what’s been going on in most Western institutions, including governments. There is one group of people who must not be offended or asked difficult questions. If you believe that all lives are equal and that there’s not something “extra bad” about one of these people suffering misfortune, then you’re literally H i t l e r.
Võrtsjärve regatta is fierce though. it is a very shallow lake so 20 out of 30 boats end up stuck in mud
“Israel astroturfed Eurovision vote but lost anyway, govt admits”
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/05/14/israel-astroturfed-eurovision-vote/
Media Bias/Fact Check has labeled The Grayzone as a Questionable Source. What other sources have reported this, if any?
Did you even read the article? There are several instances of proof of vote manipulation. Also Media Bias/Fact Check is as reliable as unbiased as the ADL (which is to say not at all).
Ynet have reported that the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs orchestrated a voting campaign – not quite as bad as in the gray zone article, but completely flys in the face of the idea that the completion is “apolitical”