Supergroup 5MIINUST x Puuluup took Estonia to another Eurovision grand final this year — and with the longest song title in the contest’s history, “(nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi.” But that’s not the only mouthful they’ve been spilling. Speaking on Vikerraadio’s Vikerhommik morning show, they discussed the political nature of Eurovision and shared their thoughts on Joost Klein’s disqualification. 

“Nothing can be apolitical”

The members of the two groups declared upon their return that the overall experience and chance to perform on the Eurovision stage was enjoyable, and they were not personally affected by any political pressures. When discussing Eurovision’s aim to be an “apolitical” contest, Marko expressed that:

“By definition, nothing can be apolitical.

“Whenever people interact, politics are involved, no matter what they are doing. It’s just a question of where to set the boundaries and what to allow or disallow. It’s entirely normal for politics to prompt emotions in people.

“It’s part of the artist’s image and what you feel or think while watching a song. Whether Eurovision should be amended or cancelled for this reason is another question. It seems to me that overthinking things is also a bit pointless here. In the end, it’s just a fun singing competition, and I’m not sure if it should be tasked with anything in terms of world revolution.”

The scarf incident

5MIINUST x Puuluup didn’t feel much political pressure themselves at Eurovision, stating they tried not to be affected by the tensions and suggested that they were probably seen as a “group of men of a somewhat older, more respectable age.”

However, regarding the EBU’s checks for political symbols, Marko recalled a minor incident when a staff member ran after him in the hallway to ask if the scarf he had wrapped around his arm had any political significance. It turned out the scarf was simply from a sailing event in Estonia.

“I had a neck scarf tied around my arm for the Võrtsjärv week regatta, and it just fit.”

Joost Klein’s disqualification 

In addition, Estoni was asked about the incident involving the Netherlands’ representative, Joost Klein, who was disqualified from the contest just a few hours before the grand final. The Estonian artist confessed that the news was confusing for the artists as well, due to the lack of information. Everyone had heard about the incident, but none of them were told what actually happened.

Estoni expressed his regret about what happened to his fellow contestant and said that he couldn’t judge or make a statement on the punishment without knowing any details.

“No one said anything about it. Everyone knew something happened, but no one knew quite what. Personally, I’m terribly sorry that Joost’s competition ended this way, but it is what it is. We still don’t know exactly what happened and whether the punishment was warranted.”

What do you think about the discussion of Eurovision’s political character by 5MIINUST x Puuluup? Do you think Eurovision can be apolitical? Let us know in the comments below. 

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Alex
Alex
8 days ago

Sorry but I;m glad they flopped in public vote and juries. We’ve had enough of this type of entries

redfox
redfox
6 days ago
Reply to  Alex

they reached nr 8 on Viral global & no. 5 in Germany & UK. I wouldnt call it flop. They are on their 5th reprint of new album as well. & its bern out 1 month.

Bani
Bani
9 days ago

CURRENT DISCUSSION SCORE (in this thread):

(MAGA) Bani 6 vs (L3FT0ID) Rory 0

Scores can change – as soon as Rory succeed to score… 🙂

Bani
Bani
10 days ago

The L3FTOIDS (CHAMPAIGN SOCIALISTS) are shattered…. 🙁 🙁
Their bubble bursted (with the public vote results) to realize that their whole Lalaland Peace-Peace Love-Love World they built – is NOT The Real Life….
It is dificult to realize that you are in a minority group (rather than the majority) and that the world is changing… (enough said with Elon Musk with X, the New Dutch Governement, etc.).
To all of you sad people – I pay a tribute, embracing our differences (rather than applying the Cancel Culture which is heinous).
We all have MORE in common than differences. Voila!

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

How did I know a degenerate like you would support musk and wilders, you know they both hate Jews right?

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

No – not at all !! They hate “FISH IQ” near them 🙂

This one you would love:

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/world/middle-east/2023-11-27-backing-israel-elon-musk-sees-need-to-stop-murderous-propaganda/

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Was this before or after he re-instated the Twitter accounts of all the banned holocaust deniers?

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory
Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

The X owner responded during his visit in Israel that it had been a “difficult day emotionally” following the tour and that “we have to do whatever is necessary to stop the hate,”

Give him a bit of credit…

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

So why does he allow holocaust denialism on his platform?

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Work in process… hold your breath

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

So holocaust denialism was banned in the platform for years, he brought it back and now you want us to believe at some point he’ll ban it again? Why did he allow it back?

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Had an epiphany in his recent visit to Israel…. People evolve you know?

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

If it took visiting Israel to realise that allowing people to spread holocaust denialism is wrong than there is something really wrong with him (and you) – and he still hasn’t actually done anything to stop it, he profits off antisemitism on his system and will continue to do so.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

In the meantime – we all see antisemitism – coming for YOUR CAMP !!! and we also know who else…. Please explain the ENLIGHTMENT going on now on University Campuses??…. Again the EMPTY Peace-Peace Love -Love??? Waiting your news..

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

So you’re fine with Musk profiting from spreading holocaust denialism after it was banned on the platform for years? Many of the groups participating in the university campus protests are Jewish, are they also anti-semitic somehow?

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Not everything is defined by being Jewish (or not) !! The world is defined by RIGHT or WRONG (with no difference of race, color, age, gender).
IS IT OK TO EXPRESS YOUR VIEWS?: RIGHT
IS IT OK TO DESTROY CLASSICAL PAINTINGS? (Stop Oil @ctisv1sts): WRONG
IS IT OK TO BLOCK JEWISH STUDENTS TO ENTER THE CAMPUS?: WRONG
IS IT OK TO B3HEAD A TEACHER (in France): WRONG
IS OK TO VOTE TO A CANDIDATE OF YOUR CHOICE: RIGHT
and so fort…

Now explain the Campuses events (in this scale)

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Explain why you support someone that profits from spreading holocaust denial. Except you can’t. Because you’re an antisemite.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Are you changing the subject?? (wile accusing me of not standing a leg??) hahaha…

CAMPUSES !!! That’s the subject !!

Now shoot – 🙂

Bani
Bani
9 days ago
Reply to  Bani

QUESTION NOT ANSWERED: Bani 1 – Rory 0

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Ohh… and I support TRUMP too 🙂

Any problem with that Mr. INCLUSIVE / DIVERSITY / EQUITY Peace-Peace Love Love??

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

What a surprise that someone with the iq of a flea also supports Trump as well as musk the natzi sympathizer.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Forgot to mention: also Marine Le Pen, Chega in Portugal, etc… If I would be British I would vote BREXIT ‘ as well – as the majority did.

I (as many others) are tired of the corruption of our current system…

I normally incline with the winners (not the loosers) 🙂

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

You’re tired of corruption so you support Trump who is currently on trial for corruption and bribery? Make it make sense hahahahaha

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

I’m guessing you love Putin too?

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

My HERO and Orban too 🙂

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

But didn’t you know Putin supports the Pa lestinians? If your HERO supports them why don’t you?

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

It is a calculated move by Putin to challenge US dominance and establish a multipolar world… (we all know that behind the kitchen strategic relation are good)

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Sure, whatever you need to tell yourself.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

When you are not close to the party you can’t hear the music…

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

I’m guessing you don’t get invited to many parties.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Seems that you are not – otherwise you would know the drill…. 🙂

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Yeah sure… All KANGUROO courts !!

Clean your glasses: The more Kanguroo files they throw on him – his support rises!! People are NO stupid, you know?

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

His support rises among brain-dead conspiracy theorists like you, that’s not really a surprise. You support the most corrupt leaders like Trump and Putin but claim to be against corruption, logic is not exactly your strong point.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

And I see the world differently… will you deny my right? 🙂

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Who is denying your right?

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Those are millions and millions of Americans!! How dare you call the what you called them? Are you living in denial??

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Yeah and millions and millions of Americans are braindead morons who believe whatever bullsh*t they see on Facebook, just like you.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Ahh… Now we know where YOU (!!) get fed…. TikTok too?? Instagram??… MSM????? 🙂

Bani
Bani
9 days ago
Reply to  Bani

QUESTION NOT ANSWERED: Bani 2 – Rory 0

Bani
Bani
10 days ago

SCOOP: ROMANIAN GOVERNMENT STIPEND CANDIDATE FOR EUROVISION!!

https://escbubble.com/2016/06/romanian-government-will-paying-tvrs-debt/

What a SCANDAL !!!

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

The Romanian government paying the debt of the public television channel that they own is not unexpected or a scandal.

The Israeli ministry of foreign affairs creating a campaign to influence voting in other countries is contrary to the supposedly “apolitical” nature of the contest.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

As our legendary MEN above said: NOTHING is apolitical!!

YOU – trying to push your narrative here – is POLITICAL (isn’t it?… 🙂 )

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

So you admit that Isreal interfered politically in the “apolitical” contest? Good to finally get some sense out of you.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

NO – NOT AT ALL !!!

ADVERTISING is NOT INTERFERING (PINK IS NOT RED !!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Or you are color-blind… 🙂

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Ok then explain how the ministry of foreign affairs AdVeRtIZINg the song isn’t political? Why is the ministry for foreign affairs involving themselves in Eurovision? Don’t they have children to starve?

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

The “starving” children are under the responsibility of their government: H@M@S !!!! ask them !!!

Throw the stone where it belongs!!

Israel needs to take care of it’s own citizens (among them Eden)

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

H@m@s are not the ones preventing aid getting to the starving children, that would be the illegal settlers in Israel. Oh yes they really “took care” of her by using her as a propaganda tool – just like they use the hostages they don’t give a f**k about.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

H@m@s poke the bear and now crying for the scratches…
Asking israel to feed it’s mud3r3s is beyond insane!!!
Let Quatar feed them !!! Or Egypt? Jordan? Lebanon?
You don’t expect Britain to feed the Yemenites after bombing them… Nor the American Fed the Iraquis…

Now, Explain: WHY there are hostages in the first place?????

C’mon – give your best !!

Bani
Bani
9 days ago
Reply to  Bani

QUESTION NOT ANSWERED: Bani 3 – Rory 0

Rory
Rory
10 days ago

Israeli news source Ynet have confirmed that Israel’s televote advertising campaign was organised by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Remind me again how Eurovision is “apolitical”?

Ricardo
Ricardo
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

From the article: “The support Golan received from the European audience was preceded by a campaign by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the government publicity office for Eurovision fans, in which the Israeli representative addressed them in French, Italian, Spanish, German, Czech, Latvian, Estonian, Albanian, Georgian and English – and asked them to vote for her.”  “The videos taken by Golan were uploaded to a dedicated YouTube channel and received more than 14 million views. The campaign appealed to audiences selected based on a careful analysis of the voting patterns of countries in the past and the interest those… Read more »

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Well organized ADVERTISING campaign !! Chapeau !! As it should be done.

This can well be taught in any “MASTERS of MARKETING” courses..

Brilliant Academic element.

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

The ministry of foreign affairs creating a propaganda campaign for the entry makes the contest political, if you don’t see that you’re even dumber than your deranged comments make you seem.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Let me see… “iq of a flea”, “dumber”, “derranged” that you throw on me…
This is the INCLUSIVITY/DIVERSITY/EQUITY Peace-Peace Love-Love that you represent??…
Gosh… You LOST ALL YOUR CREDIBILITY Rory!!!
This is what I call: CORRUPTION!! SCAM !! FRAUD !! and you still dare to lecture MORALITY here?? hahahahahaha
Try to find an appropriate Support Group Rory (it will help your meltdown and restore your INTEGRITY)

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

I’m not sure how pointing out that you seem like a deranged person with a low iq and limited reading comprehension is corruption or a scam. I’m guessing you probably don’t know what either word means. I’m just going off the evidence you provide.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Don’t patronize Rory.
Did I call you “degenerate”, “iq of a flea”, “dumber”, “derranged” “low iq” “limited”….
No – cause I’m a decent person and apparently beyond your intellect.
So don’t lecture others about acumen (that maybe YOU are lacking hence projecting to others)

Bani
Bani
9 days ago
Reply to  Bani

COMMENT NOT ANSWERED: Bani 4 – Rory 0

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

As well mentioned A-D-V-E-R-T-I-S-I-N-G !!!
The same did KOREA with BTS for the world cup 2022…..
FRANCE for the upcoming OLYMPICS – promoting thei Athletes (to sell more tickets !!)
All normal… The L3ftoids Histeria is HILARIOUS 🙂

Kuhkatz
Kuhkatz
10 days ago

Love them, and their 100 % right but…

“group of men of a somewhat older, more respectable age.”

Well…

Making the green room a big bed. Fishing for votes.
And if you check TikTok, Kohver stealing from other contestants, the whole group in an elevator, hearing their song and in the end, stealing things.

If you dig, they’re a group, that tried to bring some joy in a chaotic year of ESC.

Mina
Mina
10 days ago
Reply to  Kuhkatz

That respectable age part was irony I assume. 5Miinust guys are all born between 1987-1989. Guys from Puuluup are indeed maybe more respectable age.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago

Karl (below) again – doing SHENANIGANS !!
NOTHING (!!) in the article mentions a bombastic scoop – besides a PROMOTION video done, the same as we ALL (!!) saw before the competition (in Youtube as advertisement) the PROMOTION of the POLISH LUNA (Tower) in acoustic version…

https://media.universalmusic.pl/307552-luna-builds-the-tower-listen-to-the-acoustic-version-of-her-eurovision-song-and-get-a-sneak-peak-of-her-show

Karl – you are welcome to add some more makeup – to your CLOWN Show 🙂

Karl
Karl
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Cope with reality, hasbara bot

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Which reality? Your delusional World?… NO WAY!!… (take medication m8)

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Did the polish ministry of foreign affairs create the video?

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

NO… – Quatar ministry of foreign affairs 🙂

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

The Qatari ministry of foreign affairs created a promotional campaign for Poland? That’s what you’re trying to claim? Hahaha

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Finally Rory we discover your sense of humor 🙂

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Yes it’s so funny how now it’s been shown the Israeli government has tried to interfere in the contest you’re trying to change the subject hahahaha

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

None of the sort… Romania ministry of foreign affairs also assisted TVR as they had no money to participate…. This is not interference. Don’t be confused..

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

No, that’s not the same thing at all. Trying to influence the votes of OTHER countries is not the same as assisting the country’s OWN national broadcaster financially. You know this but you’re trying to deflect from how much of an overstep this was on the Israeli government’s part, and how much it made a mockery of the “apolitical” nature of the contest.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Don’t Spin it to FIT your narrative !!

ADVERTISING is NOT (!!!!!!) Interference (as you try hard to portray) !!

Same as: APPLE is NOT a PEAR (unless you get high 🙂 )

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Please explain how a government ministry involving themselves in promoting a Eurovision entry isn’t political – oh wait you can’t hahaha

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

And I’m Not… cause as said in the title:

NOTHING IS APOLITICAL !!!

and MARKETING IS MARKETING

Good Morning Rory 🙂 🙂 🙂

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

So again you admit that Isreal tried to politically interfere in the contest. Finally you’re starting to talk some sense, you must have taken your pills at long last.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

If you change the words “politically interfere” with MORAL SUPPORT (under the obvious circumstances) – WE HAVE A DEAL 🙂

Bani
Bani
9 days ago
Reply to  Bani

DEAL NOT ANSWERED: Bani 5 – Rory 0

Karl
Karl
10 days ago

Israeli outlet Ynet confirms Eden Golan’s televote advertising campaign was organised by the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/sykjyhaza

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Karl

As usual with Karl…. Nothing Burger!!

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

So the ministry of foreign affairs admit that they interfered in the voting process purposefully, and you still try to claim that Isreal’s participation is apolitical? Delusional. Deranged. Desperate.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Where did you get “admit”??…… Admit my A*s!! There is NO such thing.
Again INVENTING NEWS Rory??
(as ALL L3ftoids do – living in a parallel universe) 🙂 🙂

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

Ynet confirmed it and has an article about it on their main page – or do you not trust Israeli news sources?

Ricardo
Ricardo
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

We live on the Matrix.

Do not believe in anything your eyes are seeing. It’s their mantra.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

What are you smoking Ricardo?… Seems GOOD stuff 🙂 🙂

Ricardo
Ricardo
9 days ago
Reply to  Bani
Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Reading the article, it’s says that they created a promo video where Eden communicates in several languages to promote her song. Poland decided to promote Luna with and acoustic version… Each country promotes their candidates in different manners (as participating in pre-parties, doing Remixes of the songs, etc.)

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

The participating Polish broadcaster did that, not their ministry of foreign affairs. You can’t see how that is different? The ministry of foreign affairs involving themselves in a Eurovision campaign is political.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

And this campaign is NOT political??? Shoving it in my/our throat/s???

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59149035

WAKE UP RORY !! The world is not a candy store…

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Bani

I’m not sure why you keep desperately trying to change the subject and bring up completely non-related issues – presumably because you know you don’t have a leg to stand on. You’re an Islamophobic pos.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Rory

Of Course…. The typical L3FT0ID game: LABELING !!!!
Why do you think one cares about your labels???

Fatima
Fatima
10 days ago

Deeply disappointed that lazy Graham Norton didn’t bother to say the title of their song

redfox
redfox
6 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

I bet Shakespeare would have been able to do it.

Iván el Conquistador
Iván el Conquistador
10 days ago

If there is a song if this year with potential to pull a Snap, it’s theirs. They deserve it for being so epic and legendary.

Efthymios
Efthymios
10 days ago

F***ing legends. <3

Samo
Samo
10 days ago

Finally some adults entering the conversation. Thank you, guys!

Thanos
Thanos
10 days ago

“Nothing can be apolitical” . 100% correct. Especially given the fact that Israel’s inclusion and special treatment by the EBU where 2 highly political decisions.
Also the fact that they were so terrified by simple scarfs that may or may not be keffiyeh shows how terrified they are of the public opinion swaying against Israel in this conflict.

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Scarfs?? What are you playing the “innocent” Thanos??
How many times people were attacked and kicked OUT of a restaurants in the US for wearing a MAGA hat??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlenTnOmqw4

EBU took precautions because L3ftoids are sooooo INCLUSIVE and PEACEFUL , aren’t they? 🙂

Ellen
Ellen
10 days ago

Wise words from them.

Seddik
Seddik
11 days ago

Lovely guys.

Dankjewel Estonia ;D

Alaska
Alaska
11 days ago

“…Marko recalled a minor incident when a staff member ran after him in the hallway to ask if the scarf he had wrapped around his arm had any political significance. It turned out the scarf was simply from a sailing event in Estonia.”

The level of paranoia and the fear of annoying one and one delegation only is so exaggerated that almost sounds like a joke…

Ricardo
Ricardo
11 days ago
Reply to  Alaska

Totally ridiculous.

Marlinken
Marlinken
10 days ago
Reply to  Alaska

It only reflects what’s been going on in most Western institutions, including governments. There is one group of people who must not be offended or asked difficult questions. If you believe that all lives are equal and that there’s not something “extra bad” about one of these people suffering misfortune, then you’re literally H i t l e r.

redfox
redfox
6 days ago
Reply to  Alaska

Võrtsjärve regatta is fierce though. it is a very shallow lake so 20 out of 30 boats end up stuck in mud

Karl
Karl
11 days ago

“Israel astroturfed Eurovision vote but lost anyway, govt admits”
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/05/14/israel-astroturfed-eurovision-vote/

Tejayes
Tejayes
10 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Media Bias/Fact Check has labeled The Grayzone as a Questionable Source. What other sources have reported this, if any?

Karl
Karl
10 days ago
Reply to  Tejayes

Did you even read the article? There are several instances of proof of vote manipulation. Also Media Bias/Fact Check is as reliable as unbiased as the ADL (which is to say not at all).

Bani
Bani
10 days ago
Reply to  Karl

Proof my A*s !! – Nothing Burger there..
Why don’t you go Karl to your @activism Operators and tell them that you are a TOTAL FAILURE??
Find anoter job… Starbucks?

Rory
Rory
10 days ago
Reply to  Tejayes

Ynet have reported that the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs orchestrated a voting campaign – not quite as bad as in the gray zone article, but completely flys in the face of the idea that the completion is “apolitical”