Photo: Corinne Cumming / EBU

Norway’s VG newspaper is reporting that the EBU narrowly avoided what could have been “the Eurovision scandal of all time” thanks to last-minute crisis talks.

According to VG, six countries were poised to withdraw with just 25 minutes left before the grand final. The countries were: Switzerland, Norway, Greece, Portugal, Ireland and the United Kingdom. That would have resulted in a 19-country grand final — and left producers scrambling to fill more than 18 minutes of content. 

However, Greece’s broadcaster ERT has now denied that it planned to withdraw. Speaking to the Eurovisionfun web site, ERT said: “We never discussed or considered withdrawing from the competition for any reason. The publication (VG) is incorrect at least when it comes to Greece.”

The countries that threatened to withdraw shared grievances regarding at least two major points: the large-scale security apparatus for Israel and “the behavior of the country’s delegation during the week.”

Israel has previously refuted any wrongdoing, saying that its team faced “unprecedented hatred” because of the fact they were from Israel. 

Six countries were set to withdraw from Eurovision final 25 minutes before show

Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet says “the entire final day became one long crisis meeting” for the EBU and host broadcaster SVT.

It’s unclear what was negotiated and why the six countries found participation acceptable in the end. 

Magnus Børmark, the guitarist for Norwegian band Gåte, told VG:

“Our common point was that we did not want to participate in Eurovision for it to be used and branded as part of Israel’s war propaganda machine. We participated to create a space where we can unite in music — in a political situation where everyone chooses sides and hates each other.”

Magnus previously told Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten that “withdrawing was on the block until the last second. We eventually had constructive talks with the EBU. Things were just good enough to carry on.”

The “Ulveham” performer said that the tense atmosphere forced artists into a political role, placing an heavy burden on everyone’s shoulders.

Large protests around the city called for the EBU to ban the country from the event. The EBU has consistently said the song contest in a non-political event and a competition between broadcasters and not governments. 

“It seemed as if there was one set of rules for Israel, another for the rest,” Magnus said. “There is something wrong when you experience it. The artists should not have to have a crisis meeting with the EBU,” he says.

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Calo
Calo
13 days ago

Now that we all know (VG disinformation) – not about time to take this whole article out?

Truth
Truth
16 days ago

Proved to be pure misinformation, why is this article still up?

Alexandro
Alexandro
16 days ago

What’s wrong with you guys?
We’re meant to support Eurovision and what it represents.
Let’s all just unite by music..
We could. Eurofans destroyed the spirit this year, not EBU.
Even artists took advantage of the anti-Israel situation.
I would personally support all broadcasters to participate (including Russia and Belarus), should they adhere to the rules. Let’s *ucking unite by music…

DJdjdj
DJdjdj
16 days ago
Reply to  Alexandro

In an ideal world I would agree with you.
But when the bad guys use this as a platform for their own agenda and propaganda (remember the Olympics in Berlin in 1936, Sochi Olympics and so many other examples), the silent majority has to stand up and say enough is enough. That is what really could destroy the ESC.

SA18
SA18
18 days ago

I’m sorry but if the artists were that offended why didnt they ditch the contest before?

Cassette
Cassette
18 days ago
Reply to  SA18

Before what? It was only after the Israeli delegation were busted filming countries like Norway and Ireland that the threats were made to withdraw.

Yodenman
Yodenman
12 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

Yeah, threats not actions !!

Melissa
Melissa
17 days ago
Reply to  SA18

Most of them signed contracts that were keeping them kinda tied to the hip with the entire process and frankly, if you were in their position, would you be willing to pay the broadcaster a potentially massive fare for breaking contract? + you really gotta get the broadcaster to step out or otherwise they’ll just find a replacement act for anyone who decides to say no to Eurovision even if they could afford to pay the fine. The broadcasters are the problem, not the artists.

Eva
Eva
18 days ago

Metler ruined the Eurovision Song Contest I hate Metler

Cassette
Cassette
18 days ago
Reply to  Eva

Excuse me? How did he do that?

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
18 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

by existing, he needs to cease to exist asap

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
18 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

sarcasm from me

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  Eva

Why? Care to elaborate?

Stephanie
14 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

“Eva” is a habitual troll. This person I believe has two YouTube accounts (krostovkrostov7409 and oldcher8857) that spew the same hate about Nemo across all their videos on the official ESC channel (both accounts call them “Metler” and accuse Switzerland’s victory as being “rigged” or “rigget”) – the patterns in their hate are literally identical. Don’t engage with this troll any further

Nash
Nash
18 days ago

Darren, I told you it’s gonna work 🙂

Darren
Darren
18 days ago
Reply to  Nash

You did and you were right. William messaged me too, I felt sorry for him, he had to remove 890 comments. They had 35 IPs? Like what??

Excellent work Nash

Nash
Nash
18 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Damn, that’s wild. I guess now we know where all those likes and dislikes on comments come from, one person. What a low life.

This site was created for us fans to bond over music and culture, not to behave like that. I’ve been on this website since it launched in 2009, I knew William would act on this.

Thank you Darren for support, and thank you Wiwibloggs for respond

Darren
Darren
18 days ago
Reply to  Nash

Strength in numbers Nash.
We can hopefully have our site back and discuss things properly and civilised.

Been here since 2014 and never seen it as bad as it got the last few weeks

Nash
Nash
18 days ago
Reply to  Darren

It’s been a tough year and very very hard Eurovision season for everyone involved. For the first time ever I dont feel PDE (Post Eurovision Depression) but rather post Eurovision relief.
This is my little safe space, I love this competition, hopefully we can all heal and move on

Thanos
Thanos
18 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Wow guys great job! This also seemed to fix many of the like-dislike ratios that were probably destroyed by the bots.
What was the situation, what did William say? 890 messages? 35 IPs? Bot behaviour?

Darren
Darren
18 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

“B ani” had 35 IPs and 890 messages here

We got it deactivated.

The site is even faster for me anyway, was having lag issues

Thanos
Thanos
18 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Yes I had also noticed the lag. Anyways I hope such a thing won’t be repeated

Cassette
Cassette
18 days ago
Reply to  Nash

Thanks Darren and Nash. Great job!

NickC
NickC
18 days ago
Reply to  Nash

Well done guys!

Melissa
Melissa
18 days ago
Reply to  Nash

I’m glad it worked but now I’m seeing some comments resorting to like, actual anti-semitic dogwhistles or otherwise dogwhistly, gross language have a large amount of upvotes which also isn’t necessarily ideal and probably requires a second check just in case by someone who knows what to look out for :’D

I might not like Eden as a person but people calling her a “disgusting creature” is absolutely dehumanizing and there are way better ways of calling out her behavior than resorting to something that nazi’s will gladly cheer on word-wise

Tommy
Tommy
19 days ago

When peope tell not to allow Israel to participate, you do that. We dont care that your sponsor is from there.

Paul Sorenson
Paul Sorenson
19 days ago
Reply to  Tommy

Which people?
Only a few contestants wanted Israel out of Eurovision.
The rest of the 37 didn’t.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Tommy

Correct! 100%

Robert
Robert
19 days ago

I implore all the zio lovers to watch the videos from Rafah of beh*aded, burnt bab*es. Real heartbreaking videos, not propaganda bulls*it you all believed in the beginning of the geno*ide. That is what your dear Israel does. And if you still defend it, you have not a single ounce of humanity left in you.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Robert

It’s no use Robert. These people take great pleasure in seeing those images, in fact I’m starting to think it makes them want more.
These kind of people either lack basic human decency or empathy or they are just demons.
So they are either psychopaths or just plain evil.

Anyone who feels nothing, or still tries to justify this g3n0c1de after seeing what happened in Rafa the other night, is just a dirtbag and they deserve no respect
Just as bad as the n@zi which is incredibly ironic.

NickC
NickC
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

It is really useless to argue with them. If they could, they would drink the blood of those babies. We finally reached the lowest level humanity can reach

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
19 days ago
Reply to  Robert

Children have been murdered on Oct 7th too, so why the useless reference, unless you wanna tell us, that they do not count. a baby is still held by H@m@s. Pain, suffering and despair about dead children is not exclusive.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

So by your logic you think that because children died on October 7th that they should die now too?

How come the October 7th victims where so tragically killed but everyone else killed since don’t count?

Why is it only an atroc1te if it happens to Jews? But everyone else is fair game? Supremacy much?

And that’s different to the n@zis because??????

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

A very adventurous and baseless interpretatio of what i had written. No, i was trying to point out, that what Robert wrote implies negating the death of children on Oct 7th and that there is no need to denigrate one victim in order to emphasise the other.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

You know full well what Robert was talking about.
You were trying whataboutism.

Whatsbourism doesn’t come into it.

43 innocent souls burned alive and blown to pieces just to get two h@m@s t3rr0r1sts is not proportionate

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

I have only referred to the pointless referral to Oct 7th. I have not written about approving the Rafah onlasught.

 Pain, suffering and despair about dead children is not exclusive.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Glad you think so because that’s what we where talking about, the Rafah onslaught.

Ern
Ern
19 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

No sensible person is happy about what happened on October 7th, and no sensible person is saying that Israel should not retaliate. However, has Israel gone too far? That’s the issue here.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
19 days ago
Reply to  Ern

Israel has sure gone too far. I am honestly sick of the situation in G@z@. I want the children from there to sleep withour fear, to have enough food, to start building a new home. I want Naama, Liri, Danielle etc. to return to their mums and to start healing their violated souls…i want Noa to return and say last farewell to her dying mum….i just want this all to end.

Cassette
Cassette
19 days ago

Eden Golan (not her name naturally, imagine choosing an occupied/annexed Syrian Druze territory for your new surname?!)

Nils
Nils
20 days ago

Regardless of the behaviour of the Israeli delegation, this basically reads like a concerted last attempt to get Israel out of the competition, after unsuccessfully campaigning for exactly that for months. They keep talking about prop@g@nd@, yet try to blackmail the EBU for their own sinister political motives? And now some of them (Gåte) even brag about it? It really takes spectacular stupidity to get the basic idea and core value of Eurovision so wrong. And, by the way, where was that supposed Israeli ‘w@r prop@g@nd@’? I didn’t spot or hear any during the shows, yet read a sh*t ton… Read more »

Thanos
Thanos
20 days ago
Reply to  Nils

“sinister political motives” is freeing P@lestine from oppression but embracing the Israeli participation (which was a 100% political decision given the precedent of Russia’s DQ) was well-intented and moral. Oh c’mon you guys can’t even believe what you are saying.

Nils
Nils
19 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Basically all the infrastructure there used to be was built by your so-called ‘oppressors’. And how come Egypt and Jordan are living in peace and relative prosperity while Palestinians aren’t? Do you think it might perhaps have something to do with firing missiles into Israel nonstop for more than fifty years now?

I don’t mean to justify what Netanyahu’s government is doing. But I highly recommend everyone who’s portraying Palestinians as totally innocent, poor little things and H@m@s as some sort of romantic resistance group to finally tune in to the news and get a sense of reality.

salomon the sardine
salomon the sardine
19 days ago
Reply to  Nils

All they (Palestinians) wanted is to r@p ,to kidn@p, and to k@l some babies.
Israel should not response.
Furthermore the Palestinianssholud get reward now! (and not like 20 years ago) to be regocnize as a state. Because of their human actions.

Spain, Irelad and Norway should be proud!

(sarcasem alert)

Thanos
Thanos
19 days ago

Believing the the right of self-determination of an entire people group is a reward and a privilege and not a human right says everyone one needs to know about how you guys think.

salomon the sardine
salomon the sardine
19 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

You didnt get the main subject in here:
Timing is everything. Recognization NOW!!?? Why so? Because of their t@rr-or attacks?

So if Catalonia wants to be a state they sould ask H#M@S how many spainsh kids to k@-ill to get that award.

Andy
19 days ago

Catalonia has always been an integral part of Spain. At no point has the government in Madrid stole that land and ethnically cleanse its population.

Raul
Raul
19 days ago
Reply to  Andy

Hey AndO. Go and learn history . Do you know the civil w@ar at Spain in 1936 -1939? Have you ever hear that Spain had been long story of t@error: free Catalunha and Pais Basco…. Surprise

Guorga
Guorga
17 days ago
Reply to  Raul

Learn history? The civil w@ar at Spain was between right and left, not between Spain and the regions. Plus, “no pasaran” was actually coined in Madrid. Madrid resisted against Fr@nk0 way longer than Catalunya. Fact.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago

Ireland***

And for having humanity and not agreeing to having innocent kids heads blown off in a refugee camp?

Yeah we are proud, thanks for the concern

(No sarcasm needed)

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Ireland can acknowlege whatever state. Now please go forward an facilitate the release of the Isr@eli host@ges. Thanks.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

That’s up to Bibi.
Perhaps direct that at him.

But then he’d have no excuse to keep his g3n0c1de going then, perhaps he doesn’t want them back.

In relation to what you say about Ireland, if you heard our speech you would have heard Simon Harris calling for the unconditional return of the hostages and they have called for it many times, but I guess that doesn’t suit your narrative

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Bibi is not holding them.
No Bibi is needed for an unconditional return of the hostages.
?

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

He’s been offered many chances to get them back and he refused, because his plan is to carpet bomb the shh!t out of it so the likes of Daniela Weiss can sell luxury beach condos in the place to wealthy settlers

But I do hope they are returned unconditionally to their homes safe and sound but does Bibi? As I said you should ask him

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

He has never been offered an unconditional release of all of them. Why are you lying?

And your Taoiseach should not only call for an unconditional release but also press for it, when he is now big buddies with the P@lestinians.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

I’m not lying Israel have rejected ceasefire deals that would return the hostages

In addition to my Taoiseach, we aren’t big buddies with H@m@s, who actually have the hostages so I don’t know where you’re getting your information from. Why are you lying?

Palestine isn’t H@m@s.
Again as advised above if you actually listened to the speech you would have known that

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

He has called for an unconditional release,yes. No doubt. But evidently it did not work. And as he surely cares for the people in the hands of t€rrorist, especially the young women, he will go further and start an initiative to get them out. He can take Spain and Norway along and I am sure my Czechia will join the team too.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Okay so best carpet bomb the tent cities of displaced families and children, that will bring them back.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

And you have the audacity to accuse me of whataboutism. Hillarious.
Obviously, a press for a ceasefire should be pursued as well.

Darren
Darren
18 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

I’m not doing whataboutism
You’re trying to get me to say that the current actions by Israel are the only way to get the hostages back because obviously H@m@s won’t listen to Ireland and Spain

Ceasefire is the only way which we have pressed for but Israel won’t listen so the only way we can press is to sanction Israel and bring them back to the table with serious proposals before they’re actions k!ll everyone in G@z@ including the hostages

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
18 days ago
Reply to  Darren

And now read your post again and try to figure out, where the BIIIIG elephant in the room is…

Darren
Darren
18 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

I know yeah it’s decades of Israeli government policy endorsed by the US and facilitated by Germany and UK that’s the big issue here.

Nils
Nils
17 days ago
Reply to  Darren

It’s wrong to put the blame for Bibi’s crimes on all of Israel. There were massive protests against his politics before October 7th, and there are even more now. Just check how many times the Israelis have tried to get and periodically got rid of him in their elections. The majority appears to be against him. Netanyahu never equalled Israel and especially doesn’t these days.

Darren
Darren
17 days ago
Reply to  Nils

In the same way H a m a s doesn’t equate Palestine – which was kind if what the op was trying to say.

Would love to see the Israelis remove Bibi that would be a great step towards justice. Ben Gver too

Raul
Raul
19 days ago

Yep . I think that Sanches as a brain of a sardine

Thanos
Thanos
19 days ago
Reply to  Nils

Great mentality my friend. And in India they had a lot of roads and infrastructure built by Britain. So was colonialism good? You have to give some thought as to why Israel built this infrastructure. Hint: The same reason as to why colonial powers were building it in the countries they colonized. As to why P@lestinians aren’t living in prosperity you might want to ask those who built walls around them, kicked them out of their homes, banned them from fishing in their seas, stole their water, terrorized and robbed their farmers, disconnected their cities from one another and forced… Read more »

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
19 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Well said. But we are getting in the downvotes for sharing truth in this room.
Strange isnt it in such a open and viral online world all of us connecting……………………………….What Im missing here, something isnt right.

Why I still feel more than 10 pebbles in my shoe??

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
19 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

As they are the Have-nots Thanos.
In these Hungergames Matrix scenario the upper dog always decides.

All animals are equal but some are more equal than others. ( * Orwell, Animal farm 1945) and as relevant as EVER.

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
19 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Ofc they do, as they all like a mouth full of sheit!!
Ein bißchen frienden is just only for the chosen Ones!!

Raul
Raul
19 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Again … Russia invade a country . Israel was still and then H@M@S with Palis@@tinian came inside with such a friendly action , to party at Nova Festival and other military spots . Then Israel said we will invite to our party . But the babies from Palest cryied a lot because thy are the only that want to play . So they hide in tunnels with the help of the Palestinian and put their children play in frount

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Raul

Ah yes, Israeli occupation of the West Bank, the blockade of G@z@, the illegal settlements, the checkpoints ALL started after October 7th.
Israel was a peaceful, friendly neighbour, who loved the Palestinians equally before then right?

Wrong.
Your stupidity is astounding Raul. You need to think before you speak because the stuff you post here really makes you look like an imbecile.

Slabsson54
Slabsson54
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Well, it might surprise you, but terror!st attacks of Palest1n!ans did not beging on 7/10 either, did they? Ever heard of Munich 1972, Coastal road, Maalot, Achille Lauro, Entebbe, Mogadischu?

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Slabsson54

Ahh the whataboutism yet again.
That doesn’t take anything I said into account.

And why do Palest1nians feel the need to attack Israel? What’s your reasoning behind that?
Why does all of their neighbours either hate them outright or are deeply cautious of them?
Genuinely interested and don’t come at me with another sh!tty whataboutism response, actually answer

Robert
Robert
19 days ago
Reply to  Nils

If you wanna see where was propaganda go watch a video from esc Gabe (a jewish person) how israel and azerbaijan are taking advantage of eurovision.

Cassette
Cassette
20 days ago

It’s clear now more than ever Israel don’t share European values and should never have been allowed to compete in this contest.

Israel have rather cunningly played the woe is victim card to ultimate effect and suckered in Europe but that is no longer the case and most people have wised up.

The only logical next step is to ban Israel. They can look forward to competing in the International Criminal Court Contest.

Nils
Nils
20 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

Apparently ‘European values’ means antisemitism these days.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Nils

Tired old thrope.

Try harder.

Alex
Alex
19 days ago
Reply to  Nils

Is it antisemitic to oppose a genoc!de?

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  Nils

Unfortunately, that word is worn out and empty of meaning.

Nadiia
Nadiia
19 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

There are more people in the world than your hateful bubble, Cassette.

DJdjdj
DJdjdj
18 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

Crystal clear

Thallo
Thallo
20 days ago

Why can’t the EBU get rid of that ONE country that’s ruining the contest for fans and contestants alike?

As far as I see it, the contest is currently in its downfall and there’s only one way to save it.

Robert
Robert
20 days ago
Reply to  Thallo

money runs the party

Samo
Samo
20 days ago
Reply to  Thallo

You mean Ireland? Or Portugal? There were quite a few countries ruining it this year by bringing their political statements into the contest. Israel wasn’t one of them.

Thanos
Thanos
20 days ago
Reply to  Samo

I always thought that the way Israel utilized this year’s contest for its own political gains and propaganda was fairly obvious to everyone and thus doomed to fail, but seeing that there are people who didn’t get it makes me think that at the end of the day it might have been effective. One more reason to ban Israel from the contest.

Robert
Robert
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

There are a lot of uneducated people that are easily swayed with far right propaganda. And the fact that Eden Golan sat there and filmed begging video to vote for her in 20+ languages (with atrocious pronounciation in those I speak) that span 100k+ times per country on youtube is apaling. And the fact EBU did nothing about it.

Thanos
Thanos
20 days ago
Reply to  Robert

That’s true. But still I am always bamboozled seeing it happening

Robert
Robert
20 days ago
Reply to  Samo

Since EBU decided to make this year political by including a genoci*al country (setting a precedant since they excluded russia for a lot less), trust and believe that there will be a pushback from countries that stand with humanity and don’t forget it because of money.

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  Samo

Sorry, but it was Israel that tried to use ESC as a tool in their hasbara machine.

Doris
Doris
20 days ago
Reply to  Thallo

Yeah get rid of Sweden turning ESC to melfest 2.0

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
20 days ago

Everyone: Please be kind to one another.
Free speech is a value that is not guaranteed if kindness does not prevail.
There are evidently those who are deliberately trying to shut down this comments section, so there need to be more kind comments to balance them out, unless of course Wiwibloggers want this comments section to end, genuinely? P.S. Now would probably be a good time for a suspension and a re-brand anyhow.

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Purple Mask

I’ve reported it to many times. They don’t seem to care. I guess it’s clicks and activity on the page during a usually quiet period I guess.
It’s driving people away though. Lots of people I got to know in the 10 years I’ve been active here have left as a result of the behavior and spamming of some horrible trolls here.
It’s genuinely infuriating

NickC
NickC
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

One of the most prominent jewish actresses of our time agrees with you Darren:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/cRkJs8w6UMU

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  NickC

Masssive respect for Miriam, always one to speak her mind

NickC
NickC
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

There are other jewish people speaking up too. Like Noam Chomsky.

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  NickC

I commend anyone brave enough to break ranks and call out this g3n0c1dal bullsh!t massive respect to them.

Thanos
Thanos
20 days ago
Reply to  NickC

Noam Chomsky was one of the first intellectuals whose philosophy helped me start building my political thought and I will be forever grateful to him.
I am glad that he is always consistent with his views.

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Mister Chomshy is such a wise soul.
Grace to him and his words.

Anya
Anya
19 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

I am in particular impressed over his theories about universal grammar.
Long, lasting impact on the field of linguistics, and grounbeaking when it comes to how we teach children.

Anya
Anya
19 days ago
Reply to  Anya

But what you can do in the world as a professor st MIT…

Thanos
Thanos
19 days ago
Reply to  Anya

His linguistics theories played a very important role in programming languages as well. And now with the development of large language models and AI I believe his linguistics insights will again be pivotal. He is perhaps the most influential linguist of modern times apart from an amazing thinker you are correct.

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
20 days ago
Reply to  NickC

True words spoken of her.

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
18 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Thank you, and I have since read that William replied to you. I hope the experience is a little more tolerable now.

Thanos
Thanos
20 days ago

Last night’s massacre in R@fah where many people were burnt alive really reminded me of something particular from the past. Z1onism is a racist, supremacist ideology that uses religious arguments to justify the infinite violence against an entire people’s group. The US, UK and EU’s silence is deafening. Israel needs time be held accountable for the crimes and P@lestinians must be free and have their own internationally recognised state.

NickC
NickC
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Could not have elaborated better file!

Anya
Anya
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

I agree. It is terrible. And all the big shot countries with their head in the sand.

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Correct and right Thanos! Every word

Salmon the sardine
Salmon the sardine
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Do you believe in 2 states solution?
Meaning Israel and Palestine right to exist?

Thanos
Thanos
20 days ago

Yes my brother. I believe in a 2 state solution under the borders prior to the 1967 war. P@lestine’s capitali city will be East Jerusalem.

Salmon the sardine
Salmon the sardine
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Great! So it makes you a Zionist too.
A Zionist= is a person who believes Israel right to exist.

Thanos
Thanos
20 days ago

Zionism is not just that. Zionists make historical (or better biblical) claims on a much bigger area than what the 1949 Armistice line includes. Thus, there has been no Israeli government whatsoever that has accepted any form of a P@lestinian state.
In principle I am against the British + US decision that took place back then: it constituted land theft. Right now though the only logical solution to the conflict with regards to the well being of everyone is what I said above.

NickC
NickC
20 days ago

I think we (logical and compassionate people) all believe in a 2 state solution. There is no other solution.

juliana
juliana
20 days ago

the hatred comments in this comment section is an example of what makes those almost withdraw countries to feel uncomfortable in Malmo.. for me I am so glad they made it till the end.. show us their resilience and persistence that they really want to make this show as remarkable as always..

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
20 days ago
Reply to  juliana

shut up juliana, you are not allowed to say anything

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Says who?

Ozzie
Ozzie
20 days ago

Witches are women. Bambie demands to be called “them” when her whole persona is a woman! She is a brat! She went for one reason only and that was to cause trouble! She should have been removed!

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Ozzie

Witches aren’t real Ozzie.

Guess you missed the memo there

BeeFree
BeeFree
19 days ago
Reply to  Ozzie

Bambie Thug was not even mentioned in this article yet you guys keep talking about them. Why do you continuously single them out? Bambie Thug went to Eurovision because the Irish people voted for their song, Doomsday Blue – that is the “one reason only”. While there, Bambie behaved in an exemplary manner that won many new friends and fans. Bambie Thug brought a creativity that was the highlight of the Eurovision and was seen cheering on and supporting the other contestants who had all become friends in the face of obvious persecution from the delegation of one other country… Read more »

Alex
Alex
20 days ago

“Our common point was that we did not want to participate in Eurovision for it to be used and branded as part of Israel’s war propaganda machine. We participated to create a space where we can unite in music — in a political situation where everyone chooses sides and hates each other.” Well you did participate even though you said you would withdraw if Israel takes part…same for Finland which has suspiciously been quiet. Anyway, we really deserve to know more about this incident, if true. I don’t think Greece would have withdrawn given how they did not protect Marina… Read more »

anna
anna
20 days ago

Too bad, we would have a better top 5 if they actually withdrew

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago

I wish they had withdrawn, the contest was a mess anyways and they would’ve saved us such a virtue signaling freakshow

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

And omg I can’t with all the schizo posting from both sides. Coming back to this blog was a terrible idea. See you never, y’all.

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

It’s not an airport

Departures aren’t necessary

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Idc, just posted so ppl don’t wonder about me

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

I assure you, they’re not and they won’t

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Talk for yourself, chicken

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

I mean go if you’re going like jeez

Long goodbye

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Some Coke flights always seem to pass through all the security checks in a remarkable way. Noo we dont want it, but……………………………
Its still an airport.

Ben
Ben
20 days ago

Maybe those countries should be excluded next year.
We have enough countries participating. It also wouldn’t hurt if we came back to the state where half-finals aren’t needed. They were only introduced because we have too many for the actual show.

Sh1ft_key
Sh1ft_key
20 days ago
Reply to  Ben

Only one country should withdraw next year and it’s not one of them.

Tino
Tino
20 days ago
Reply to  Ben

It remains EUROvision. If a country that is not even in Europe causes trouble, then I might come to think that this particular country should leave.

Noel
Noel
20 days ago

The EBU need find the six counties extra money for trying to break the rules and find The Netherlands even more money for break the rules

Robert
Robert
20 days ago
Reply to  Noel

And kick Israel out of EBU altogether. I agree.

ImStevan
20 days ago

The EBU needs to act NOW. Israel’s participation is not viable

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  ImStevan

Why not? Just because some virtue signaling freaks were about to withdraw?

Paul Sorenson
Paul Sorenson
19 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

Exactly

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

Because KAN is a public broadcaster, dependent on a government responsible for war crimes and whose leaders are under investigation by the ICC. Crimes against humanity, such as g3noc1de and apartheid, are not compatible with the values ??defended by the Council of Europe, values ??by which the EBU is also supposedly governed.

George
20 days ago

The Greek public broadcaster doing anything to shut down the expression of an artist’s voice, is kind of of disgusting. I don’t personally agree with Marina’s actions but I’ll defend everybody’s right to be themselves and express their disapproval anyway they want (as long as it’s not harmful to others)
We like to say that the contest is not political, yet we have public broadcasters acting like their governments puppets,across Europe.

Ern
Ern
20 days ago
Reply to  George

Marina was there to represent Greece. She has every right to have an opinion and express it, but it should be on her own time.

George
20 days ago
Reply to  Ern

That’s one way to see things. But what’s exactly the reason not to do it while representing Greece? Are we gonna confuse her own opinion with the whole country of Greece/ Greek government? Cause that seems to be the biggest problem with people disagreeing with her doings. Isn’t it “just an artist” and “not representing her country’s wrongdoings but just herself “. Seems like a double standard to me.

Ern
Ern
19 days ago
Reply to  George

OK, but I’m talking specifically about Greece. The Greek broadcaster is paying for Marina to be there, and she needs to be mindful of that fact when she participates in Eurovision-related events. As far as I know, ERT did not authorize her to speak about Israel/Palestine, so her pretending to fall asleep at that press conference was unprofessional. It made Greece look bad, and likely affected her outcome in the contest.

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  Ern

Greece is a democracy. People don’t need authorization to advocate for Human Rights.

LawnaDellPlay
LawnaDellPlay
20 days ago

Swiss victory was pre-planned, it is a set-up

Iván el Conquistador
Iván el Conquistador
20 days ago
Reply to  LawnaDellPlay

His song had a message approved by the globalist and Zionist elite, who supports LGBT rights. It was rigged.

Baby Lasagna wasn’t allowed to win because he is an European proud of his origins.

ImStevan
20 days ago

You’re insane

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago

Bro, stop schizo posting and touch some grass

Julius Caesar
Julius Caesar
21 days ago

All the hate directed toward Israel since October made me an ardent supporter of Israel.

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Julius Caesar

You’re easily swayed.

Thankfully the rest of us aren’t so easily manipulated.

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Says the scumbag H4m4s supporter

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

Evidence that I support H@mas please?

You should go to the police if you think you know someone who supports t3rror1sts

Stupid tw@

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

You’ve called them resistance fighters in previous posts in this forum, stupid scumbag
Btw, I suppose it’s too late at night there in Ireland, check this out and relax:
https://youtu.be/3u8dGFqDoRg?si=LMmJ20hiAQW1KSf3

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

I have openly condemned them on this site. so I guess you’re blind as well as stupid?

I don’t even know how you get out of bed in the morning with such difficulty.

Sending prayers and positive vibes

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Such a lovely reply! I thought you were against hate and stuff

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

Well I’m sending prayers and positive vibes though

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Btw, I think I manage way better than you.
I bet you wake up later than noon or don’t sleep at all. I mean, it’s too late at night in Ireland rn, isn’t it?

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

It’s almost 2:00 here, I’m up at 7:00 (it’s the number after 6, in case you didn’t know).
I’m doing okay thanks for the concern though.

I am going to sleep now though. It’s been emotional, stay safe and try not to think too hard, you might get a headache.

Buenos noches

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

And then the others are vitriolic…

Thanos
Thanos
20 days ago
Reply to  Julius Caesar

All the hate towards a country committing gen0c1de made you a gen0c1de supporter. Great logic here. Check the footage coming out of R@fah tonight. Might change your mind

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

I mean this is the mentality we are dealing with.
I mean the don’t even try to make it make sense

Thanos
Thanos
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

It’s really crazy. Tonight people were burned alive in R@fah. I can’t understand how someone can stand with Israel anymore. Even Israel supporters should think that this has gone too far.

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Because Thanos, the likes of Julius, Ete Sech, JoJo, Raul etc are dirtbag racist islamophobes, who don’t care that a few Arabs are being k1lled, they’re brainwashed fools who believe anything that Bibi and other Right wing f@cists. They’re true scum. If it was a gay bar hit in an air strike tonight, or a synagogue, those very people would be waving their rainbow flags and Stars or David. Humans are humans, I don’t care where you are from, every human deserves life and dignity. Those plebs mentioned above don’t agree though. They see them as sub humans Shame on… Read more »

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Mucho texto

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

Está bien, sé que eres demasiado estúpido para leer palabras grandes.

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

You have some fine Google translate skills.
I see that you’re incapable to summarize ideas, though. Speaking of stupid…

NickC
NickC
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Darren dont try to reason with them. They are fanatics. Convincing Goebbels may have been easier.

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

AMEN.
Stand with you.
Well spoken.

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Israel doesn’t care about hostages, they’re a mere excuse for them to commit crimes at this point. Neither them nor H4m4s care about civilians at all

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
20 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

But Dear dont you know that they are just the have-nots and they only just could afford cheap tents of louzy material? We tried EVERYTHING in the World sending those poor minions to a safe area where we have all the human support needed. We are the most moral @rmy in the world. We didnt tell them we would b0mb that area asap as we are eager getting those who did dirty to us. So we flocked them to another part. OMG, we inv@ded that as well and we clossed all border crossings for the essential humanitarian aid. We built… Read more »

Robert
Robert
20 days ago
Reply to  Julius Caesar

People that are supporting Israel since October, forgetting atrocities commited since 1948 are the lowest of the low.

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Robert

100%

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Robert

People supporting Palestine, forgetting atrocities they have committed not only in Israel but in all surrounding Middle Eastern countries, like attempting to topple Jordan’s king, causing mayhem in Lebanon, siding with Saddam Hussein and enabling his invasion of Kuwait, killing Egyptian soldiers in the Sinai, blowing up in Baghdad markets, Ghouta, and I could go on…

Robert
Robert
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

Baby, should we start the list of atrocities Israel commited? Trust and believe it is worse, child.

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Robert

Both sides are as awful, we could go on with Arab colonialism too. There’s 20+ Arab states and they didn’t become such through peace and love.

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

The CIA and Mossad have developped very clever PSYOP technics true the decades after WW 2.

And were used massively ofc.

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

Go learn some History. You’ll be surprised to learn who were the original terrorists. I’ll give you some clues: you can search for the names Irgun and Lehi.

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
19 days ago
Reply to  Julius Caesar

@ least they named a sallad after you.
What could be wrong about that?

DJdjdj
DJdjdj
18 days ago
Reply to  Julius Caesar

I have always advocated for Israel as it seemed the only democracy in a very complicated area of our planet… 35.000 people murdered and still counting I’m not anymore

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  DJdjdj

Israel is a failed democracy. The 2 million Arab citizens are treated as second-class citizens. I am aware of many cases of Arab-Israeli citizens who are arrested simply for speaking out on social media against the actions of the Israeli government.

Patrick
Patrick
21 days ago

Then go home!!!!! What is the problem! If you wanna withdraw then leave…… but don’t make a fuss afterwords!!!!

Green
Green
21 days ago

Wish they had withdrawn, wouldnt have minded to see it all explode in ebu’s face

EurovisionaryVoice
21 days ago

Intriguing. And what arguments were given to justify the withdrawal and what arguments to make them participate??

Cassette
Cassette
21 days ago

Eden Golan is an Octopus with tentacles that have infected every part of the Eurovision Song Contest. This will happen every year as long as this rogue terr0riist state aka Israel is banished from our beloved contest for eternity.

NickC
NickC
21 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

I think they should be banished, but not for eternity. The moment they stop g3nocide, get rid of their crazy far right fractions in their government, accept a two stage solution, i cannot see why they would not be welcome.

Darren
Darren
21 days ago
Reply to  NickC

I agree.

Jojo
Jojo
21 days ago
Reply to  NickC

It is unbelievable what is going on here. Not even as humor. This chat is like taken from the dark net from a neo natzi chat room. You are disgusting sick people motivated by antisemitism and hatred.

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  NickC

They’ve proposed a two state solution multiple times but Palestine keeps rejecting it. And mind you, most of the Middle East wants Israel to be wiped out too.

Melissa
Melissa
18 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

This is a very ahistoric take considering that a Palestinian was ass.ass.inated by the Israeli far right over the Oslo Accords working towards a two state solution. Add on top of that Bibi actively works against such a solution.

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  Melissa

And furthermore, they propose a two-state solution, but they do not want to resolve the situation of the settlers in the West Bank, who continue to steal land from the Palestinians.

Jonny
Jonny
21 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

As far as I know Eden Golan was polite to everyone. Some people of the delegation were aggressive. So please stop.

Jojo
Jojo
20 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

If taking a photo of Bambie where others are doing the same right next to you is being aggressive then so be it. Screaming at the guy who took the picture using lots of F word,screaming only at him ,!Pointing him out as ‘you F …israeli dont take photos…’when others were , should have been enough to kick the bambie and her team out of the contest. The disguating behavior of artist from the countries that threatened to widraw is no different than jew hatred from prior to the Jewish holocaust. Childish behavior as falling asleep when Eden is talking… Read more »

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

It’s actually disgusting to try and shoehorn the horrors of the holocaust into this. The victims of the holocaust would be absolutely furious with what the ziobots and Israeli regime are doing in their name. Shame on you. Absolutely shameful. It wasn’t the taking of a photo of Bambie that made them complain to the EBU. It was comments made by the KAN commentators during the semi final and the harassment by members of the Israeli delegation. The facts that you deem that honest complaint to be “Jew hatred” on par with the holocaust is disgusting. And the very people… Read more »

Doris
Doris
21 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

Your beloved contest has just become a shadow of what it used to be. No wonder it has become this way seeing the new toxic fandoms.

Jojo
Jojo
21 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

You are a disgusting ugly racist hater. ignorant filthy sick antisemitic piece of flesh that pollute the air. Your words smells filth and dirt .
It is not YOUR contest and a sick minded person like you doesn’t know what ‘beloved’ means. You only.know hate and distraction.

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

Jojo, Hun, eat a snickers, you turn into a right diva when your hungry

DJdjdj
DJdjdj
18 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

Darling you need a drink… why not join a German isle for champagne while listening to ‘l’amour toujours’? That is actually racism and antisemitism

salomon the sardine
salomon the sardine
20 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

Octopus with tentacles , with big nose and teeth?
I have deja vu from 1933.
And the anount of likes from your commect is disgusting.

NickC
NickC
21 days ago

Was getan ist getan. The question is what will EBU do for next year? Their silence is scary.

Darren
Darren
21 days ago
Reply to  NickC

We all know what they SHOULD do. But the thing is, I’ll be genuinely surprised if they do it.

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

They should do a lot of things, but they seem not to be willing to do any of them

Jo.
Jo.
21 days ago

the cesspit here needs drainage

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Jo.

I agree, something needs to be done about vitriolic scumbags and clowns like Darren, Ricardo, Robert, Jizzpunk et al

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

lol

Ricardo
Ricardo
17 days ago
Reply to  ete sech

Talking about the uncomfortable topics of this edition of ESC is being vitriolic!? Let’s silence dissent.

Alex
Alex
21 days ago

Jesus Christ these comments are really something else.

Nadiia
Nadiia
21 days ago
Reply to  Alex

It’s Wiwi’s vibe and articles..

ete sech
ete sech
20 days ago
Reply to  Alex

Ngl, this blog has reached 4chan levels

Yeah yeah fire
Yeah yeah fire
21 days ago

But in the end…they didn’t

duxx
duxx
21 days ago

Even if they were left out, no one cares. Why the hell they appeared in Malmo at first place? If they had intentions not to participated they should have stayed at their home countries.
Enough with this bulls*it. Some people just seek attention.

Roy
Roy
21 days ago

They can’t stand the fact that Aden placed second in the public vote and won the semi-final. When Nemo was only Thursday, Israel overtook Ireland, the UK got 0 in the public vote, Norway came last… and even the statue of Nemo was broken and lost… Karma!

Roy
Roy
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy

Eden*

Roy
Roy
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy

*fifth

Patrick
Patrick
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy

What’s your point? lol

Jojo
Jojo
20 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

His point is very clear to me.
Might be that your brain is so fuc…up from left propaganda , you can’t see a point where it is obvious

Darren
Darren
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy

You’re a sad individual.

And you speak of karma, you don’t even know what’s coming in that case.

Jojo
Jojo
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Speaking of sad individual. As an outsider i see a group of sad pathetic bullies , full of hate , narrow minded and antisemitic , defeated but refusing to accept they’ve lost.

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

They’re hardly antisemites considering the loudest voices “refusing to accept they’ve lost” are fans of Eden/israel

Charlie44
Charlie44
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy

Eden was placed second because they payed people to vote for them. They even admitted it.

Jojo
Jojo
20 days ago
Reply to  Charlie44

Another lie hot from natzi Germany factory.
‘They’ did not admit anything and the report about that was published in a far left newspaper that is already been taken to court numerous times for fabricating ‘facts’

Roy
Roy
21 days ago

A bunch of hypocrites! For a whole week these “angels” behaved in a bullying manner towards Eden Golan, did not respect her and even “fell asleep” when she spoke, did not treat her, said how Israel should not participate in the competition, behaved in a despicable way! Better not to talk at all. Eden overtook them in the ranking and rightfully so! And if there were judges who were not Nazis, Israel would have won.

Eyal
Eyal
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy

But you can’t ignore the fact that the juries ranked Israel 12th, which is of course higher than other 14 contestants. Yea, some of them didn’t vote for Israel because it’s Israel. There is one more explanation: maybe they didn’t like the song much, or maybe they did like it, but they thought there are 11 better songs.
It’s a nice song, most people enjoyed Eden, she deserved all respect, but the song was generic. We really did hear it before.

Roy
Roy
21 days ago
Reply to  Eyal

Its not “maybe”.. the jury from Norway told that he didnt vote for Israel because of g@za.. so please… we all know that if it was a fair voting Eden should have won.

Anya
Anya
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy

Sigh. They gave eight points. It isn’t hard to get this right.

Jojo
Jojo
20 days ago
Reply to  Eyal

Eyal isn’t it? Eyal.
You remind me of the jews my dad told me about , that did everything to make the Germans and Polish people like them . They were nothing less then the devils advocates.
You are using your hidden Israeli identity as a source of Supreme moral. Deep down you know perfectly that The jury ranked eden 12 because either they were scared cause their names are being published or to show their political stand . The jury did all in its power to make the possibility for israrl To win impossible

Darren
Darren
21 days ago
Reply to  Roy

Roy was obviously there and knows what happened.
Pretty big statement to call the judges Nazis too, that’s actually disgusting.
Get a grip, you sound like a spoiled child trying a tantrum because the most generic song didn’t win.
Get help.

Jojo
Jojo
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Sugar pie before saying disguating about something check yourself. Your comments, your posts. All that is being expressed here is disguating, is saturated in hate, is violent is contaminated by ignorance and antisemitism.

Darren
Darren
20 days ago
Reply to  Jojo

Evidence of my antisemitism please?