Photo: RTVE

Spanish broadcaster RTVE has sent a letter to the EBU asking for an open discussion about the participation of Israel at Eurovision.

The letter was sent by RTVE’s president, José Pablo López, following a discussion with the broadcaster’s Board of Directors.

López wrote to Noel Curran, director-general of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU), requesting for a debate to be opened between the organisation’s members about the inclusion of Israeli broadcaster KAN in the upcoming Eurovision Song Contest, to be held in Basel this May.

A press statement from RTVE reads as follows:

“In this letter, RTVE conveys its commitment to the EBU, but also acknowledges the concerns raised by various civil society groups in Spain regarding the situation in Gaza and the participation of the public television station KAN in the competition.

“RTVE believes it would be appropriate for the EBU to recognise the existence of this debate and facilitate a space for reflection among EBU member broadcasters on the participation of Israeli public television station KAN.”

Ever since protests surrounding Israel’s participation at the song contest began in the run-up to Eurovision 2024, organisers at the EBU have repeatedly shut down these calls. They affirmed their position that the event is a competition between public broadcasters rather than governments, noting the contest must remain apolitical.

RTVE is now raising the point that, if this is the case, then those public broadcasters should be able to undertake an open debate about the issue, rather than having the EBU dictate their position.

EBU response

Update: The EBU has issued the following statement in response to RTVE’s letter.

“We welcome RTVE confirming their commitment to the Eurovision Song Contest and appreciate there are concerns and deeply held views around the current conflict in the Middle East.

“All Members of the EBU are eligible to compete in the Eurovision Song Contest and we remain in constant contact with those participating this year, including RTVE, on all aspects of the Contest.”

Following their letter, RTVE becomes the second Eurovision participating broadcaster to publicly comment on Israel’s appearance at the contest. The council of Slovenia’s national broadcaster, RTVSLO, adopted a resolution last December calling for the withdrawal of Israel from Eurovision 2025.

There have been repeated calls from musicians, fans, unions, human rights activists, and other notable figures for Israel’s removal from Eurovision since the beginning of the Israel-Gaza war in October 2023. The conflict has seen more than 50,000 people killed in Gaza, with multiple organisations accusing Israel of committing war crimes and acts of genocide.

The war began when Hamas carried out an attack in southern Israel on 7 October 2023, during which 1,200 people were killed and 251 others were taken hostage.

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Pinate
Pinate
9 days ago

Really fun teh fact that are people downvoting comment against Israel, like one i did. I bet they not even read them, but i am ok with that. I have my opinion, you have yours. Just do not spread hate.

Pinate
Pinate
9 days ago
Reply to  Pinate

Dont get me wrong: There’s nothing wrong with not liking my opinions. However, perhaps you should comment and explain why you don’t agree. The way I’ve seen it, it makes it seem like you only read the part that said Israel shouldn’t participate and then you disliked it.

Green
Green
9 days ago

The holy land belongs to the palestinians. Not the eastern european israelis

Free palestine!

Sun
Sun
9 days ago

Has no one noticed that Judaism is a Satanic cult?

Erik
Erik
10 days ago

It’s very sad how Isr*el has affected wiwiblogs journalism. The other party cannot be mentioned in the comments and in your articles you mention an area rather than a separate country. So Isr*el has the right to control occupied territory? Why were you never like this at the start of the Russian invasion? Being neutral does not equal seeing the world from one party’s perspective

Lawna del Raydio
Lawna del Raydio
10 days ago

They should open a debate on future Catalan entries

Cassette
Cassette
10 days ago

Spain isnt butchering thousands of Catalan people every day and denying them food and water. That’s the difference

Paul Sorenson
Paul Sorenson
10 days ago

Hi Wiwibloggs team,
When Israel’s and Yuval’s song came out, comments were closed and we were not allowed to comment on the song, her voice, the video. The art.

When it’s about banning Israel, your comment section is wide open again.

Since last year I only watch your site every now and then, and always in ad free Duckduckgo browser or on pc with an Ad blocker.

Jonny
Jonny
10 days ago
Reply to  Paul Sorenson

you can comment on the wiwibloggs YT channel

Paul Sorenson
Paul Sorenson
10 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Thanks, but I will not sponsor or view Wiwibloggs on YT anymore.

Cassette
Cassette
10 days ago
Reply to  Paul Sorenson

Gurl, Bye! This isn’t your personal departure lounge to make an announcement.

Sun
Sun
10 days ago

Why are the Zionist services so keen to deny the undeniable by handing out negative votes and votes? Reality is reality and can never be hidden.

Pinate
Pinate
10 days ago

In my mentally nobody envolved on a war should be on Eurovision (Ukraine is a clear exception because they were invaded). Israel is in a war that is difficult to judge: the only not-guilty element here are Gaza People. So, Israel shouldn’t be able to participate on ESC. But remenber this is just my opinion, dont rage!

Dominic
Dominic
10 days ago

Morally speaking, I send my best wishes to the civilians (and those forcefully conscripted who wanted to stay civilians if they weren’t literal slaves of the system) who want to end this conflict in every war-affected country. Peace for everyone, please! That said, let’s just focus on purely *pragmatic* issues that affect Eurovision itself. Does I s r a e l participating affect the result? Absolutely! Does U k r a i n e ‘s ? Absolutely! Purely from a song contest standpoint, they mess-up the score by having a huge advantage in televoting. They are guaranteed qualifiers and top… Read more »

Paul Sorenson
Paul Sorenson
10 days ago
Reply to  Dominic

I don’t think it’s a good idea to exclude countries at war. Then they are punished twice. Let them have some escapism and joy in those difficult times. And artistic expression.

Dominic
Dominic
10 days ago
Reply to  Paul Sorenson

That’s certainly a good argument against it. I’m just saying let’s have a discussion on the topic among EBU executives. There are pros and cons, but unless they are all throughly examined, this topic will come again and again.

Eidn
Eidn
10 days ago
Reply to  Dominic

Dominic, I appreciate your points and thank you for this kind neutral expression. I still think music can and should be separated from politics. I don’t consider singing about loss and pain which already occured, as harmful in music in general; only if there are mentions of specific details (like names, locations) of the war, in this contest’s frame. And I only consider it overall negative if a song contains lyrics about plans to keep a war and lyrics which encourage hurting the other side. With that, I get your point that this needs to be settled once and for… Read more »

Dane
Dane
10 days ago

do you really have to take a position on conflicts everywhere?

Green
Green
10 days ago
Reply to  Dane

When there are thousands of innocent people being k1lled by a eurovision participating nation daily then yes

Dane
Dane
10 days ago
Reply to  Green

it’s about music

Green
Green
10 days ago
Reply to  Dane

Being able to just look away from people suffering when u want must be really nice

Dane
Dane
10 days ago
Reply to  Green

Believe me, I see it and it’s terrible, but my life doesn’t have to be defined by tragedies all around the world either.

Green
Green
10 days ago
Reply to  Dane

Your life doesnt. But a public instituiton white washing an apertheid regime currently commiting a gen**ide does

Dane
Dane
9 days ago
Reply to  Green

When will people understand that this is music and not politics?

Green
Green
9 days ago
Reply to  Dane

As soon as the war cr1minal is kicked out we can focus solely on music, deal?

Dane
Dane
8 days ago
Reply to  Green

nah Im focusing on the music already. I will suggest you to find something else to watch if you dont want to focus on the music

Green
Green
8 days ago
Reply to  Dane

I will focus on the music once i dont have to be fed gen0cidal propaganda down my throat

Dane
Dane
8 days ago
Reply to  Green

what is the point of watching eurovision then? are you not wasting your time?

BiCHOTA
BiCHOTA
10 days ago
Reply to  Green

I mean, I don’t see you taking a stance on say Yemen, Sudan or Myanmar

Green
Green
9 days ago
Reply to  BiCHOTA

And i dont see you taking a stance on the muslim concentration camps in China. Fact of matter is, ebu is allowing israeli propaganda to air for millions of people to see while they are actively commiting w4r cr1mes. Why do you wanna excuse their actions so badly?

Bettie
Bettie
10 days ago

I ban the song: I consider it p r o p a g a n d a, how can she she sing a new day will rise…when over 20.000 children died in Gaza (and counting) , and a new day for them will never rise… She obviously only speaks about the grief and on behalve of her own people and that is not what Eurovision is all about. Israel is responsible for the ethnical cleansing and the genocide that’s going on in Gaza right now. Since Moroccan oil is an Israeli company and the main Eurovision sponsor I’m doubting the… Read more »

Jonny
Jonny
10 days ago
Reply to  Bettie

How can it be 20.000? You guys were saying this number also one year ago.

Green
Green
9 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Its not 20.000 the updated number is 60-70 thousand

esc_fl
esc_fl
9 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Total Palestinians; now the total is 60K. A third of those murdered are children.

Cassette
Cassette
11 days ago

The irony is Ana Maria Bordas, Director of Content Production at RTVE, has been elected as the new Chair of the Eurovision Song Contest Reference Group for a two-year term. 

Cassette
Cassette
10 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

Love how this comment has been downvoted so many times by the “small hat bridage” when all Ive done is sourced the EBU Website.

Eidn
Eidn
10 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

Every comment people notice YOU make will always be downvoted due to your an ti se mi tic tropes as your pathetic “octopus tentacles” and “final solution”, discovering your true s… face. Then again, of course biased wiwibloggs team members, especially “jonathan vautpuke” allow such comments while deleting other comments to tell the truth about H@S and the whole picture and confront ant is emi tes like yourself. Just like they blocked comments about Israel’s song and Yuval but now allow profanity and brainwash comments – only for those spreading lies and twists-only against Israel. Probably this very comment won’t… Read more »

Cassette
Cassette
10 days ago
Reply to  Eidn

Then feel free to leave. No one is forcing you to stay. It takes a special kind of evil to downvote a comment ending a gen*0cide but your mob love to play the victim to justify your sick savage behaviour. Bye Gurl!

Raul
Raul
11 days ago

Is it’s now that Wiwi will let me speak freely?

Raul
Raul
11 days ago
Reply to  Raul

This is just hypocrisy. Period .

Jonny
Jonny
11 days ago
Reply to  Raul

Gurl, please troll somewhere else.

Raul
Raul
11 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

I do believe that I have free speech. That’s my opinion. You don’t agree ? That’s ok to me .

Dolly
Dolly
11 days ago

It wouldn’t have been so bad but wiwiblogs didn’t let us comment on the Israeli song .

Jonny
Jonny
11 days ago
Reply to  Dolly

What are you talking about? Deban reacted on the wiwbloggs YT channel to Raphael’s song. Go and comment there.

Paul Sorenson
Paul Sorenson
10 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

The comments were closed here. Wiwibloggs readers were not allowed to talk about the song, video, her voice.
And now, when it’s about banning Israel, the comment section is wide open.

esc_fl
esc_fl
9 days ago
Reply to  Paul Sorenson

You guys will find any excuse to scream antisemitism.

RiseTheVoice
RiseTheVoice
11 days ago

I prefer the human rights over the Eurovision. It is time to say NO to this.

Jonny
Jonny
11 days ago
Reply to  RiseTheVoice

Yes, please! Protesting and booing is just creating televoting points for Kan. I guess you don’t want to risk that?

Bettie
Bettie
10 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Rather that than supporting a country that as we speak causes a g*n*side, those who stay silent…

Maclaren
Maclaren
11 days ago

Eurovision must have the rule that prohibits any country with an on-going military conflict participate until peace is established. The immediate ban should cover Russia, Ukraine, Israel. Three more countries on the watch-list: Azerbaijan, France, and the UK for warmongering.

Jonny
Jonny
11 days ago
Reply to  Maclaren

Have you completely lost your mind? Banning Ukraine would be just wrong. Damn hypocrite.

Maclaren
Maclaren
11 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Ukraine committed war crimes, similar to Russia. They entered Russian territory in Kursk and hence are an aggressor too.

Dominic
Dominic
10 days ago
Reply to  Maclaren

Ukraine ignores international law of Human rights convention by forcing conscious objectors into combat. That is enough for me to dislike Ukrainian government. That said, I prefer them 1000 times to the evil regime in Russia.

Jonny
Jonny
10 days ago
Reply to  Maclaren

You are crazy. People like you are destroying our continent.

Itchymonkey
Itchymonkey
11 days ago

Bring back Bosnia and replace them

Jonny
Jonny
11 days ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

Please, that country’s name is Bosnia and Herzegovina. Stop being offensive.

MartyMcCu
MartyMcCu
11 days ago

It is too late in the day I would say and 2 years has almost passed. Makes no difference what happens at this stage as the damage has already been done. I just think it’s all too awkward for the contest. We just have to endure and live with it.

Dalí
Dalí
11 days ago
Reply to  MartyMcCu

Said from the privilege and security of our homes. Humanity really has embraced the “as long as it’s not me” approach hasn’t it? As long as there’s songs about saunas will all be ok.

KamE
KamE
11 days ago

OMG, these comments are a war zone

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
11 days ago
Reply to  KamE

Those p*** like it like that. 🙁

Max
Max
11 days ago

Again? I am tired of this discussion. If you were really interesested in an open debate, you could have had it last summer. But now? What‘s your actual point?

Dalí
Dalí
11 days ago
Reply to  Max

It has more effect now as it threatens the viability of the contest.

Bobbbob
Bobbbob
11 days ago

It seems to be the same 5 people posting over and over every time Israel is mentioned.

Adrian
Adrian
11 days ago

Any country that doesn’t want Israel to compete should just remove themselves from Eurovision. If they don’t remove themselves then they can zip it.

Darren
Darren
11 days ago
Reply to  Adrian

Adrian endorses a regime that kills children, you heard it here first.

Green
Green
11 days ago
Reply to  Adrian

That means every country would withdraw and there wouldnt be eurovision. Much easier if we just throw the baby k1ll3rs out

Dalí
Dalí
11 days ago
Reply to  Adrian

I wish that would happen. Right before the semifinals. The Joy of watching EBU get swallowed by their lack of a moral spine. Warms the heart.

Azuro
Azuro
11 days ago

Right RTVE 2nd to try and bring politics into the contest, issue a fine!

Green
Green
11 days ago
Reply to  Azuro

The whole “a political” motto ebu tries to convey is nothing but a cute fantasy. Every action is political. Throwing out russia was political. Keeping in israel is political. Letting israel portray jerusalem as property of Israel during eurovision 2019 was political. Saying lgbtq rights isnt state politics is political. Saying they only wanna accept value politics in the contest is political. Everything is

Thanos
Thanos
11 days ago

Until the ap@rtheid ends, until the genoc1de stops, until there is a free and fully independent P@lestinian state, Isr@el must not be welcome at Eurovision.

Whisker
Whisker
11 days ago

” *deeply* held views” alright.

Euro Fan
Euro Fan
11 days ago

MyH3r!t@ge…

sparkling points
sparkling points
11 days ago

Great to see E B U’s timely response. *MANGE TAK!!!*

Euro Fan
Euro Fan
11 days ago

EasyJet!

Zisk
Zisk
11 days ago

Why are people afraid of an open debate by broadcasters? If you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe you are doing the right thing, a debate would come to that conclusion, no?

Euro Fan
Euro Fan
11 days ago
Reply to  Zisk

Royal Caribbean, Booking.com, Bailey’s, Idealista and EasyJet’s money are all having ties with Österdahl who demands all of them to extend their sponsorship. I am still waiting for giving the new ones a chance when Österdahl resigned, hopefully next year.

Nils
Nils
11 days ago
Reply to  Zisk

Why would there be a debate? The EBU held meetings with the broadcasters after the last edition. They all knew Israel would participate in 2025, just like in every other year. Still, every broadcaster signed on for Eurovision 2025.

If they have an issue with Israel being part of it now, RTVE has only itself to blame.

Structura
Structura
11 days ago

Moroccanoil…

Euro Fan
Euro Fan
11 days ago
Reply to  Structura

Booking.Com, MyHeritage, Royal Caribbean, Bailey’s, EasyJet and Idealista = Martin Österdahl. Yeah?

Jesse O'Rourke
Jesse O'Rourke
11 days ago

Israel has a much much better song than Spain ….perhaps that’s why they’re so bitter .

Jonkonfui
Jonkonfui
11 days ago

RTVE is controlled by Socialists and whatever they do is just thinking of elections and votes. I dont know why are they doing this exactly now, just a month before the Festival. It is evident that EBU is not going to decide against Israel in just one month. What I know for a fact is that they are not doing this out of the purity of their Hearts.

Darren
Darren
11 days ago
Reply to  Jonkonfui

This isn’t a Left Wing/Right Wing issue.

It’s human rights and rule of law and we all have a responsibility to protect that and hold perpetrators to account.

YouRaPsycho
YouRaPsycho
11 days ago
Reply to  Darren

I agree human rights should transcend politics—but when a state broadcaster like RTVE suddenly finds its moral compass one month before Eurovision, it’s fair to question the motives, especially given their silence during Spain’s own repression of democratic rights in Catalonia (Catalan leaders were jailed and voters beaten in 2017…)
True accountability begins at home.

Jonkonfui
Jonkonfui
11 days ago
Reply to  YouRaPsycho

Democratic rights doesn’t mean that you can decide to vote for whatever you want to vote, whenever you want to vote without any guarantee or control… Would you also call “democratic rights” the United States Capitol assault on 2021??

Sun
Sun
11 days ago
Reply to  YouRaPsycho

Catalan leaders? You mean Catalan independence leaders. It’s not the same thing.

Jonkonfui
Jonkonfui
11 days ago
Reply to  Darren

“This” being RTVE calling on EBU to facilitate an open debate is a very leftist thing.
Countries in Europe are democracies which means that people voting decide what they want. And last year people voting decided to support Israel: Spanish televote gave 12 points to Israel and Europe gave the second BEST score to Israel. So stop whining and Accept what the majority voted.

Darren
Darren
11 days ago
Reply to  Jonkonfui

Sympathy votes after Oct 7

There has been so much anger since then

Jonkonfui
Jonkonfui
11 days ago
Reply to  Darren

We will see this year then.

Darren
Darren
11 days ago
Reply to  Jonkonfui

Yeah.

Euro Fan
Euro Fan
11 days ago
Reply to  Jonkonfui

Royal Caribbean…

Euro Fan
Euro Fan
11 days ago
Reply to  Jonkonfui

And the fact having EasyJet remaining as the official airline sponsor for third consecutive year is not forgivable. To make sure having a proper airline sponsor, contract for one year at least, such as one year for Ryanair, like they did to Vueling.

YouRaPsycho
YouRaPsycho
11 days ago

RTVE did not support the Generalitat de Catalunya during the 2017–2018 constitutional crisis. In fact, RTVE was widely criticised for bias in favour of the Spanish central government. Here’s a breakdown: 1. Perception of Bias RTVE, being a state-owned broadcaster, was accused of echoing the Spanish government’s narrative and minimising Catalan pro-independence perspectives. Several RTVE journalists publicly denounced editorial interference and censorship during the crisis. Some even wore black in protest, and a group launched the initiative “RTVE no es manipula” (“RTVE is not to be manipulated”). 2. Coverage of the Referendum (Oct 1, 2017) RTVE was criticised for failing… Read more »

Sun
Sun
11 days ago
Reply to  YouRaPsycho

Catalan immersion from ages 0 to 8 (early childhood education and the first cycle of primary education). The only language of communication and learning is Catalan. Students whose home language is Catalan have the right to learn and interact at school in their native language; this right is categorically denied to students whose home language is Spanish, including students with special educational needs. Catalan is the sole language of instruction and learning from ages 9 to 16 (second and third cycles of primary education and all secondary education). School life is in Catalan, and all or almost all subjects are… Read more »

YouRaPsycho
YouRaPsycho
11 days ago
Reply to  Sun

True: 1. Catalan is the main language of instruction in Catalonia’s public education system. This is part of an official “language immersion” model established in the 1980s to promote fluency in Catalan and ensure its survival after decades of suppression under Franco’s regime. 2. Catalan is the primary language used in most subjects, with Spanish (Castilian) taught as a separate subject. 3. All students are expected to become fluent in both Catalan and Spanish by the end of compulsory education (age 16). 4. The Spanish Constitution and the Catalan Statute of Autonomy both recognize Catalan and Spanish as official languages… Read more »

Sun
Sun
11 days ago
Reply to  YouRaPsycho

As a European civil servant, I tried to work in Barcelona and couldn’t get a position because I only speak fairly fluent Spanish but no Catalan. That’s really crazy. So, isn’t there discrimination because I don’t speak Catalan but I do speak Spanish? I think there’s a huge lack of information about what’s really going on in Catalonia, and you have to live there for a while to understand it. I invite you to visit Catalonia and you’ll see that in a restaurant, if you don’t speak Catalan, they won’t serve you, and if you speak Spanish, they won’t serve… Read more »

Sun
Sun
10 days ago
Reply to  Sun

Wow! I’m surprised by so many negative votes for telling the truth. I think there are actually more Catalans than Spaniards who support Esc

Michel
Michel
11 days ago
Reply to  YouRaPsycho

Go home!

YouRaPsycho
YouRaPsycho
11 days ago

RTVE calling for an “open debate” on another country’s controversial actions rings hollow when it failed to do the same during Spain’s own constitutional and human rights crisis ( the constitutional crisis which took place in Spain from 2017 to 2018 as the result of a political conflict between the Government of Spain and the Generalitat de Catalunya). It suggests a double standard: willing to scrutinize foreign governments, but silent or complicit when it comes to domestic authoritarian measures. RTVE should have been banned from Eurovision a long time ago.

Michel
Michel
11 days ago
Reply to  YouRaPsycho

We are not interested about Cataluña.We are here to Talk about music.

ANDREW BROWN
ANDREW BROWN
11 days ago

This is a song contest site. Music not politics. WiWi why are you letting this happen?

Paul Sorenson
Paul Sorenson
10 days ago
Reply to  ANDREW BROWN

Exactly. When Israel’s song came out, we couldn’t comment on her song. Comments closed.
But now, when it’s about RTVE wanting to exclude and ban, now the comment section is wide open.

Green
Green
11 days ago

Rtve has been pushing israels disqualification since october 2023 and has been making formal complaints to ebu regularly. The fact some of you are suprised when Spain is one of the most propalestinian countries and one of the little handfull of european countries that recognize palestine as a state is beyond me.

Sh1ft_key
Sh1ft_key
11 days ago

Ahmad Manasra, Palestinian, got released from Israeli prisons after more than ten years. He was imprisoned at the age of 13 without a lawyer, without a parent. According to Amnesty or Israeli human rights organisation B’tselem, he’s only one of hundreds Palestinian child prisoners.
He was released with a Star of David shaved on his head.
Everyone who’s supporting Israel or staying silent, is guilty as well. Silence is complicity.

Paul Sorenson
Paul Sorenson
10 days ago
Reply to  Sh1ft_key

Ahmad Manasra stabbed with a knife a 20-year old man and a 13-year-old boy.

esc_fl
esc_fl
9 days ago
Reply to  Paul Sorenson

Still waiting for that precious evidence you Zionists conveniently seem to lack…

Jonny
Jonny
11 days ago

Free Catalonia.

Sun
Sun
11 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

I think there is a big difference, the Spanish state does not indiscriminately and daily kill Catalan children and women.

Jonny
Jonny
11 days ago
Reply to  Sun

So you’re supporting the oppressor Spain?

Green
Green
11 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Free wales, free kosovo, free north cyprus. We could go on and on, fact of matter is, none of them are actively getting unalived on a daily basis

Jonkonfui
Jonkonfui
11 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Most catalans don’t want the independece now. They have realized that if Catalonia was to be declared independent they’d be ruled by a bunch of deranged and absurd people (Puigdemont and company).

LUO
LUO
11 days ago

To anyonw saying why now and it’s too late, that’s nonsense. First, it’s never to late to do the right thing and secondly, if EBU can disqualify Netherlands last year on the finals day, i repeat on FINALS day, what are you smoking saying they can’t do anything in April?

Amos
Amos
11 days ago
Reply to  LUO

A very good point.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
11 days ago
Reply to  LUO

To be exact, they didn’t disqualify Netherlands – they disqualifies that loon.

Euro Fan
Euro Fan
11 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

The EBU could have been disqualified Israel last year in the Grand Final by harassing other competitors.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
11 days ago
Reply to  Euro Fan

Yeah, I agree. They should have. Still, that woulda been a one off.

Euro Fan
Euro Fan
11 days ago
Reply to  LUO

They COULD disqualify Israel last year on the finals day when the EBU realized that the entire delegation broke a lot of rules.

EProduc
EProduc
11 days ago
Reply to  LUO

EXACTLY. Thank you

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
12 days ago

So apparently it’s never too late to mass debate.

Tino
Tino
12 days ago

I think it really is time for Israeli fans in here to understand what people are saying and stop trying to put words that people didn’t say in their mouth. No, we don’t hate israeli and/or jewish people. No we are not supporting terrorism. Yes some of us can understand that this situation is incredibly complicated and that our country would probably do horrible things too if it was attacked. BUT it doesn’t mean that we should stay silent when such things are happening under our eyes. I personnally support neither side in this conflict. Everything that’s happening right now… Read more »

Fizz
Fizz
11 days ago
Reply to  Tino

AMEN

Sh1ft_key
Sh1ft_key
11 days ago
Reply to  Tino

“I personally support neither side in this conflict.”

Then you side with the oppressor which is Israel. Every human being deserves to live in dignity and freedom, Palestinians included.

Tino
Tino
11 days ago
Reply to  Sh1ft_key

Everything is not black or white. I feel deep sadness for the Palestinian people, but I also know that if my country came under attack, I would want it to defend itself. That’s what bith sides claim doing here. I totally disagree with what the Israeli government and army are doing, because the limits were crossed a long time ago! But I also know that this conflict goes back far too far and that I’ll never understand all its aspects for the simple reason that I’m not directly affected. I assume that if I don’t understand something properly, I can’t… Read more »

Sh1ft_key
Sh1ft_key
11 days ago
Reply to  Tino

“If my country came under attack, I would want it to defend itself.”

Israel has been literally terrorising Palestinians in the West Bank for decades, every single day. The West Bank is Palestinian territory, Israel has no business doing anything there. Don’t they have a right to defend themselves too? Why don’t you mention that?

Tino
Tino
11 days ago
Reply to  Sh1ft_key

You’re gaving your own interpretation of my words. I never said that Israel government and army aren’t terrorising Palestinians as well as I never said Palestinians don’t have the right to defend themselves. They sure do. What I’m saying here is that it is easy for us, people living in peaceful countries, to judge the situation from the outside but we absolutely have no idea of what our own country would be ready to do in such a situation. I do not support what israeli government is doing but I’m done judging Israeli people because I can understand why fighting… Read more »

Sh1ft_key
Sh1ft_key
11 days ago
Reply to  Tino

I know right that we’re agreeing on Israel’s participation. I just don’t like that you seem to draw a symmetry between an oppressor and the oppressed. I say it again: every major human rights organisation is very clear in their opinion that there’s no symmetry in this conflict.

Tino
Tino
11 days ago
Reply to  Sh1ft_key

I guess I could say that I agree on that 🙂 I will not consider this conflict as good vs evil though. I would say bad vs worse (again, talking about leaders on both side). Intentions seem bad to me whatever the side is but clearly israeli leader, to avoid saying his name, is using every ounce of power and all the ressources he has to destroy the other side… and this is the worst to me. He is not fighting anymore, he is annihilating.

Nils
Nils
11 days ago
Reply to  Tino

You totally lost me with your last sentence.

Marcin
Marcin
12 days ago

Okay Spain, then withdraw. Show us you mean it and you are not virtue signalling.

Euro Fan
Euro Fan
11 days ago
Reply to  Marcin

It’s April already. It’s too late and we have to wait for 2026.

Marcin
Marcin
11 days ago
Reply to  Euro Fan

They can always choose not to go.

Sun
Sun
11 days ago
Reply to  Marcin

Your comment is horrible. Why should Spain withdraw? Should a woman who has been abused by a man stop going out on the streets because of that? Your comment is offensive to many people.

Marcin
Marcin
11 days ago
Reply to  Sun

You completely missed the point.

Sun
Sun
11 days ago
Reply to  Marcin

No honey, I haven’t lost my point of view, you just don’t know what you write, baby.

Green
Green
11 days ago
Reply to  Marcin

Babe, the contest would crumble if spain withdrew. Theres a reason spain is part of the big five. The contest can survive without the w4r Cr1minal israel, but cant without spain

Marcin
Marcin
11 days ago
Reply to  Green

It survived without Italy for like 13 years.

Green
Green
11 days ago
Reply to  Marcin

First of all, that was before the inflation of the 2020s. Back when almost all of eastern europe was participating and the contest was cheaper, and we all saw the high quality the contest received when italy entered. Not the same at all if spain were to withdraw in 2025

Marcin
Marcin
11 days ago
Reply to  Green

We can always invite Russia back and give them big 5 status, they also provided some high quality entries or Turkey. Sadly, the EBU is too complacent with leftist identity politics for that to happen.

Green
Green
11 days ago
Reply to  Marcin

Wasnt talking about quality entries, was talking about the high amount of money italy brought with them. And i agree, i dont see why Russia isnt allowed to participate if israel is

Andre
Andre
12 days ago

Why Spain and others did not complain that Turkey is illegally occupying half of Cyprus since 1974 and not only it was allowed to participate and it is still very much allowed to participate if it wants, but it actually even debuted in 1975 less than 10 months after its invasion of Cyprus in 1974 which it still holds and infringed all human rights.. Only Greece reacted back then and withdrew for a year due to that.

Tino
Tino
12 days ago
Reply to  Andre

Do you hear everyday on the radio that Turkish are killing Cypriots? I personnally don’t.

Andre
Andre
11 days ago
Reply to  Tino

If a Greek Cypriot enters his land in the illegal state self-proclaimed “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus ” recognized only by Turkey, the Turks will shoot him dead. They have been depriving hundreds of thousands of Greek Cypriots of their homes since 1974 and for knowing what happened to their loved ones that were massively taken hostages in 1974. If you don’t heat about it from your news agents that are servicing specific agendas, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen

Darren
Darren
12 days ago
Reply to  Andre

If you’re gunna try and deflect from what Israel is doing, you must try harder than that. Turkey isn’t killing Cypriots on the daily, nor are they expanding the territory they have to try and consume the rest of Cyprus.

Andre
Andre
11 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Turkey has been depriving Greek Cypriots from their homes and from finding out what happened to their missing loved ones for 51 years now, every day since July 1974. The fact that you are not hearing about that from your news networks does not mean that it doesn’t happen !

Charlie
Charlie
12 days ago
Reply to  Andre

And allow me to remind you of one very important detail that has nothing to do with Cyprus: in 2013 Turkey OPTED to stay out of the contest for being “too gay”. As far as I know “Gay” and “Cyprus” don’t share any similar meaning, do they?

GreekEuroFun
GreekEuroFun
12 days ago
Reply to  Andre

It was Konstantinos Christoforou who gave the votes from the Cyprus jury one year, saying live something like “welcome from the only divided capital of Europe”. That segment was cut from the official dvd of the contest.
EBU sucks up Turkey. In fact they want them back.

Sun
Sun
11 days ago
Reply to  Andre

And why did the Greeks give points to Türkiye then? Lol

Andre
Andre
11 days ago
Reply to  Sun

Because they wanted to show that they valued that the song was good, irrespective of politics

Jonny
Jonny
12 days ago

Why now? One month in prior is way too late. They could have started this after the contest last year. To come up with this matter now is juts pathetic. Deal with it or leave. There is no middle ground.

Tino
Tino
12 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

I don’t think they’re doing it do push out Israel of the contest this year. I think they’re doing it for next year.

Jonny
Jonny
12 days ago
Reply to  Tino

Then this particular broadcaster should wait for that discussion after this year’s show has passed.

Tino
Tino
12 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Yeah, I think they’re simply using the spotlight on the contest right now to have more impact. But I understand the point.

Jonas
Jonas
12 days ago

Remember the whole You’ll Never Walk Alone interval of 2023?

What was that all about, and why does it not apply to P a lestinians?

Jonny
Jonny
12 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

I am sure you’re referring to G a za. This area is not part of the EBU.

Jonas
Jonas
12 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Oh, right, never walking alone is limited to EBU membership. Sorry, forgot that.

Jonny
Jonny
12 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

You’re excused.

Jonas
Jonas
12 days ago

Does Kan provide fair and balanced and accurate coverage of the slaughter in G a z a? The horrific scenes of grief, devastation, rubble, orphans etc.? A fair and balanced representation of fact?

If so, they can stay. If not, OUT.

Sh1ft_key
Sh1ft_key
12 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Rhetorical question lol. War propaganda is everywhere in the Israeli media.

PhrygesStan
PhrygesStan
12 days ago

I don’t want to enter in the polemic, I just find the timing to put this debate on the table a bit late, I mean one month exactly from the contest when all is already prepared and planned for everybody….why not in November when we got the official participating countries list. RTVE had 4 months for that so I don’t understand why now, it would have been more useless months ago.

Jonas
Jonas
12 days ago
Reply to  PhrygesStan

I guess because it’s an evolving and fluctuating situation, at least in theory. What’s true in November isn’t necessarily true in May. Anyway, a month is plenty of time. Netherlands got just ONE DAY last year.

PhrygesStan
PhrygesStan
12 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Well ok but I don’t really see big differences between November and now about the situation. Now the rehearsals start certainly in May 3 or 4, the stand in rehearsals even days before, so it remains not even one month but rather less than 20 days, it’s a bit short to organize a big debate imo, it won’t happen before the contest but you’re right Netherlands got not even one day last year so…

Sun
Sun
12 days ago
Reply to  PhrygesStan

I think RTVE is not just talking about the participation of “that” country in 2025. I think it’s opening a debate about future participations as well.

PhrygesStan
PhrygesStan
12 days ago
Reply to  Sun

It would make more sense though, because their move right now won’t have any impact on the 2025 contest I think.

PhrygesStan
PhrygesStan
12 days ago
Reply to  PhrygesStan

more useful…

Whisker
Whisker
11 days ago
Reply to  PhrygesStan

I’m not surprised at all, this was to be expected. It’s not like Israel and its citizens aren’t only facing what they are facing in terms of t error threats and at tacks from several countries and/or groups and/or entities, there’s also this buffet of misinformation and manipulation in the realm of the medias AND the academia and now at tacks are being carried out when it comes to Israel’s participation in The Festival as well. This comes straight from the playbook of at tacking Israel through misinformation and m obbing, b ullying, while the actual historical, anthropological, archeological, and… Read more »

Sh1ft_key
Sh1ft_key
12 days ago

PS: I was so naive for thinking that they wouldn’t renew the contract with Moroccan Oil, that main sponsor from Israel, after all the mess last year. I thought that it would explain the double standards because they’re caught in a contract with that company who wouldn’t accept if Israel was excluded. But despite everything RENEWING the contract with that company is unforgivable.

Euro Fan
Euro Fan
11 days ago
Reply to  Sh1ft_key

It’s extremely unforgivable that Martin Österdahl wants to contract with those stupid EasyJet, Idealista, Royal Caribbean, Bailey’s and Booking.com and I hope they will be kicked out soon because of Österdahl wants them to extend their sponsorship contracts until he is resigned, so why didn’t they want to give a renewal to MyHeritage before the 2020 contest?

Hfhdjtbrthf
Hfhdjtbrthf
12 days ago

I find it contradictory that its a competition “between broadcasters” and not counties or governments, but then the EBU won’t allow more than one broadcaster from a country to enter. Which is it? One song per broadcaster or one song per country?

AlcopodIsFreeHamasPodcast
AlcopodIsFreeHamasPodcast
12 days ago

We support Spain!