The semi-finals of Eurovision 2022 have come and gone. And in their wake we have at least one useful indicator of which songs generated buzz across Europe — and the rest of the world — thanks to the Spotify Global Viral charts.
On the morning of Friday 13 May — just one day before the grand final — three songs sat in the Top 50: “Stefania” from Ukraine’s Kalush Orchestra; “Give That Wolf a Banana” from Norway’s Subwoolfer; and “De Diepte” from The Netherlands’ S10.
Eurovision songs from Ukraine and Norway climb Spotify Global Viral Top 50
Ukraine’s entry, which celebrates the strength and love of mothers, has taken on a new meaning in the light of Russia’s invasion. It’s come to symbolise the strength of Mother Ukraine and the children fighting to protect her.
It remains to be seen whether Ukrainian folk-rap will go down with the juries. But, based on their position on the Spotify chart, it would seem the public is interested in what they’ve got to offer.
As of 15:30 CEST, Ukraine has the highest-charting song at #32.
That puts them just ahead of Norway’s Subwoolfer — the yellow wolves from outer space who have come to Earth to slay the dance floor. They currently sit at #33. Their intergalactic staging has a DJ seemingly floating in the background while our favourite furries perform eye-popping choreo.
The only other Eurovision song in the Top 50 comes from the Netherlands, which sits at #47.
Unlike Ukraine and Norway’s offerings, S10 is reaching people with an emotional ballad. “De Diepte” — The Depth — is an ode to her dark and difficult past, which has helped make her the woman she is.
Do you think these are just domestic streams? Or do you think these songs are actually reaching across borders? Let us know in the comments box below.
Let’s see how high Sam Ryder can go in the UK charts. He’s n1 on Apple Music charts in UK which has never happened before with a Eurovision entry.
Latvia is the highest country on Spotify World Viral chart today. Well deserved!
Ukraine and Norway’s placings are somewhat understandable for many reasons (the ongoing war, unique traits, intergalactic/Slavic creativity, etc). Last time I checked that chart, S10 held tight onto her Top 50 position but I fear she’ll take a tumble in the actual contest.
All in all, it’s safe to say tonight’s finale will shake the list up right after its broadcast, as certainties are thick on the ground this time!
Update…chart place 78 in the UK. See if this improves after the contest ?
Let’s be honest here. Ukraine winning would be a big kick in the teeth for the contest. It should not be about the atrocities that are happening there at the moment. It’s all about the music and if it’s all down to sympathy votes, then the integrity of the contest is in tatters. I don’t dislike the song but it is not a winner. Also would all those people who keep constantly moaning about Europe hating the UK, please stop now. Our song this year is very mediocre but is tipped to be top 3. Surely that disproves this stupid… Read more »
Most of all music is about the heart and soul. If Ukraine wins. with their song and performance, because they touch a lot of people it is well deserved. In my opinion this is what music is all about??. Music units. ????
The song is in the global top 50, it clearly isn’t just a pity vote, people must actually like the song. Ukraine do this folky type song so well and this is a great example of it. If they win, then an element of it might be due to a sympathy vote, but in all honesty, I think the song on its own merits a great result regardless.
Honestly, I won’t be able to stand the hate Ukraine will get when they win. Just get over it. It’s not like we have other potential clear winners besides Ukraine. It’s an open field and enjoy the show.
The jury final press poll for anyone interested:
Huh…Portugal and Moldova got top 10 and Ukraine only tied for 10th…interesting…No Wolves is sad but not too shocking.
Wow, I didn’t expect these results! But it looks like a nice top 10, maybe swapping the order a bit, but it looks nice haha 🙂
I can’t see the appeal of UK.
The UK ???? I’m from the UK and I can’t stand this song. Never in all the years I have watched this contest have I seen such a mediocre offering get so many positive vibes. I keep asking myself if I am actually listening to the same song as everyone else. To me, this is nowhere near as good as Lucy Jones. Spaceman’s lyrics are awful……speaking to satellites in space and looking into blackholes and finding spaceman ….really ???? Nice bloke, but the song. Anyway, would all those people that keep saying that Europe hates the UK, please stop it… Read more »
Finding space, not finding Spaceman. You read the lyrics wrong
I think maybe you’re just not good at metaphores.
Do we really need a jury anymore? They are clearly not in touch with what the peoples opinion.
Happy Eurovision Eve, everyone!
Hugs to all, love, love, and peace, peace 🙂
and special thanks to William and the crew for all their work!
Thanks Jimmy. Helicopters and aircraft have been buzzing around me since 2am, so that’s why I’m not asleep yet.
They can be incredibly noisy. Would that be Birmingham or Manchester perhaps?
Can we finally get the list of where to watch the show online?
YouTube or Tiktok if none of your national TVs broadcast the show. It’s easier on TikTok, search @eurovision and you can watch online. YouTube is preferable for me though.
I think it’s time to come to terms that Ukraine’s this year’s winner and no “fact spilling” nor whining will change the fact.
It feels so unfair for the rest of participants, though. But both people and EBU are behind Stefania this year, so why bother watching tomorrow’s finale if the outcome’s already known and EBU ruined everyone else? 🙁
“people are behind Stefania” yes that’s called televote and gives half of the points of the competition
That’s what I’m saying, your reply wasn’t necessary at all genius
Ukraine has now 60% with the bookies, have we ever seen that high? For some time, I struggled to predict a winner for this year’s ESC, since there was no clear frontrunner. Now nothing seems to stop the Ukrainian train. I love the song and the performance. I know many people who intend to vote for them, never seen so many agreeing on a entry. They have the televote on lock. Juries might try to drag them down a bit, but will it be enough? Many jurors probably don’t want to rank Ukraine too low. I think the UK might… Read more »
Yeah, at this point the only challenger might be the UK, but I really doubt he’ll get anywhere close
The British team is very clever. They overdo some parts of the performance to make it more appealing to the public, but just enough. Then, they make run for a clean view and jury appeal.
I really don’t think UK is the one to watch. It’s Sweden.
I believe that only “Arcade” reached 50+% in the odds. Even songs like “Euphoria” only got up to around the 40% mark. Of course, Arcade competed in a weaker year (winner competition wise) than Euphoria. But yeah, Ukraine are in uncharted territory here.
Still makes me wonder just how high they would’ve been with Alina Pash. o.O
I certainly wouldn’t say that 2019 was weaker than 2012. No way.
I dont know why there is no article on the jury final tonight but all i know is this. Watching Chanels performance (it leaked) and hearing the people literally singing with her, all i can i think is that she is still a contender for the win. I dont think that Ukraine will win that easily as bookies say. so excited for the final
The only factor that will likely go against her is the Jury vote. I still feel Sweden, UK and Ukraine will poll better with the Juries then Spain and those three will likely be top 5 televote winners. Spain I feel will finish top 5.
S10 is a polished gem and deserves all the love it is getting. Sang in Dutch as well.
My respects for her! not everyone gets far singing in a language other than English or Spanish nowadays, and she’s making history in Dutch! 🙂
Itunes world update (todays list)
15. Cornelia Jakobs
35. Subwoolfer
45. Sam Ryder
72. Kalush
108. The rasmus
118. S10
138. We are domni
145. Malik harris
157. Sheldon Riley
158. WRS
199. Maro
200. Mahmood & Blanco
No Chanel in the top 200? I guess this song is indeed worthless without the circus on stage.
Didn’t even make it to Spain’s top 10 despite heavy press coverage either
I also remember the Spanish public not liking the song. How come now they are convinced that they sent the best song in the history of music? Are they all drunk or something? They are hyped like crazy.
Spanish music doesnt do well in europe, other than Spain. And Chanel is basically uknown even in Spain. I bet in the summer it will start picking up steam
What? If you mean Spanish music as in music specifically from Spain, ok, but if you mean music in Spanish… Latino music is all over Europe, with clubs dedicated to it even.
And no one thinks they sent the best song of all time, but the best choreography of all time in eurovision yes
Chanel received 3% of votes from televote at Benidorm, now they all seem to love her song
It’s just really funny how you pop up everywhere to defend your little trashy dance routine. I will keep saying whatever I want. Go sit on something stiff and relax already.
Wow Sheldon Riley made the list. Seems his entry is a little more popular then people here have thought. I wonder if this will translate into the Eurovision final. He may have a chance of making top 10. (I still predict 11th to 13th though)
What are fans gonna say now? That Ukraine gets pity streams? Haha the delusion. People genuinely enjoy Stefania, deal with it. No one listens to songs out of pitifulness, that’s pathetic.
Either that or Stefania is the only ESC entry talked about anywhere in the media bc of it being Ukraine’s entry xd
And this is true
Regular viewers don’t even listen to songs before the show, so yes, Ukraine is going to win thanks to pity votes
Well…I don’t know. The song is nice but at the same time Ukraine is a country at war and as such it has its propaganda machine running 24/7 full speed. I think if Russia was in the competition it would somehow have a trillion streams and lots of money poured into at not getting an embarrassingly low position. We’ll see…
most are certain of Ukraine winning. This is uncharted times. The song is overhyped because of the war and the media and bookies are assuming that the public will vote heavily for Ukraine because of this. The only thing we have to compare this situation with is with Bosnia in 1993 and then they only had the juries. They were the favs to win but only could make mid table. If the current political situation was not going on this song is 15-21st at the most; plus rap never does that well at Eurovision. All I can see is that… Read more »
“The song is overhyped because of the war”. Meanwhile this article reveals that’s it’s not and people genuinely enjoy listening to it. Get help, Jason. It’s not too late.
You do know articles are opinion pieces. Perhaps take your own advice.
Jamie, you are probably under 15, but if you are older, please check your mental health. Please
This is the truest statement I’ve seen yet. I hate the Ukraine rap bit and I think the bookies are playing with a poker bluff regarding the odds. If everyone is backing the Ukraine they are going to lose millions. So it doesn’t favour them to shorten the odds constantly like they are doing. They are keeping Chanel at 16/1 despite topping two major polls and having good YouTube figures. This surely can’t be the fact that Ukraine has this amazing song that is soooooo unbeatable. It’s a big bluff and hope by the bookies. The jury will decide Ukraine’s… Read more »
The thing with Ukraine is that you can’t tell how much of its hype is not “artificially generated” for propaganda purposes as both the West and Russia are in an intense propaganda (and actual) war at the moment. Televotes and odds are things that could be easily skew if you are willing to invest on it.
I really struggle with this notion that a song is somehow divorced from its context. There is a reason why Gary Glitter’s songs don’t get played on the radio any more. There is a reason why people say Sam Ryder is a nice guy. It is because humans invariably buy into a package rather than a song in isolation. So the context behind Ukraine is incredibly important to people’s perception of the song, it takes feelings (which is the primary purpose of pop songs anyway) to a different level and so if people want to vote for it because of… Read more »
This is actually a topic that can lead to a very big conversation: perhaps also touching the debate about the dogma ‘art for art’ and the debate about whether we must detach an artistic work from its creator and treat them as two different entities rather than one. But if we are going to stick to Eurovision I have one remark: It’s one thing that someone watches the Ukrainian performance and is touched by it (even given the current background). But it’s a very different thing if someone just mechanically votes for Ukraine without taking the actual song into consideration.… Read more »
It is a fascinating subject, one that I would like to explore if I had time. It’s an interesting point whether anyone would mechanically pick up a phone to vote without considering the song at all. I really question whether anyone in real life would ever do that, why would they bother or be interested in a song contest, they would most likely donate money to the various appeals. I quite strongly believe that people watch Eurovision because they are interested in music and entertainment. So they enjoy listening to songs and enjoy being entertained. In order to vote for… Read more »
It is possible yes. If the vote is a result of genuine feelings that are being born by the song itself or even by a combination of both the song and the current context then the vote is of course fully justified. I just wouldn’t want to feel that Eurovision is becoming politicised like I said in another comment as well. So I truly hope that who ever votes for Ukraine, does so for reasons that are compatible with a song contest.
We all know for sure that Ukraine will be the performance to watch. We will all feel united during this performance. Europe will be one! We should not forget that both the song and the performance is off a winning capability. Whenever Ukraine is winning this competition they deserve the glory of winning with all the benefits! I have my own preferences for sure: Netherlands, Sweden, United Kingdom, and for sure Spain!! Whatever happens I will appreciate the winner for it’s own quality!! On another mark.. let us celebrate the quality of this year competition! Just only take a look… Read more »
Stien preceding Stefania in the running order… will make for a very emotional 6 minutes
Speaking of which, did Oleh’s mother Stefania make it to the show, and will we see a shot of her tomorrow?
Bet your horse money that, if Ukraine wins, Oleh will bring his mother on stage.
No. He literally said in the press conference that’s she’s in Ukraine and will remain there.
Crap. 🙁 I didn’t watch the press conference.
It’s a TV show… Just enjoy the show! I honestly dont care who wins. My friends come to my house for snacks, wine and laughs…. Just remember 2019!! … No hate! Just party! Europe wins on Saturday
My friend is coming over too. No wine though, I’m in Australia lol
There better be snacks then :), enjoy the show Stan. Love from Ireland.
Oh look, people are listening to that song that apparently nobody should like. The funny thing is that if there was no war and the odds wouldn’t be affected so much “Stefania” would be loved by many people in here that are now declaring that it’s complete trash.
Thank you! I’m sick of comments about “pity votes”. It’s so unfair for this beautiful song.
Careful, Ana. Eurotrash enjoyers are still recovering from the loss of Ronela and Brooke. They are not ready for the news that people actually stream Stefania and enjoy it.
They can listen to the generic rejected JLo track from 2010 that Spain brings this year. Oh that’s a worthy winner, because butt shaking is so much more valuable in a song contest than masterfully produced traditional song combined with contemporary music. Who needs all this authenticity when you have lyrics like “boom boom zoom zoom”? A true musical masterpiece.
Thanks for the free comments about spain…
The Spanish entries are always being hyped in the ESC bubble. It doesn’t prevent them from flopping. I still remember how Barei was considered a contender in 2016 just to finish 22nd. My free comments won’t help you.
I’ll send you my condolences here when she flops tomorrow night. Stay tuned.
I see the Spanish fans vomiting hate on Ukraine as if Stefania is the worst song ever sent to Eurovision, not less. That’s the real psychopathy. Go on twitter, see what Spanish people are writing about Ukraine. And for what? You think it will somehow make you win? That’s pathetic. Send a better song next time.
Serbia and Spain are the most watched 2nd SF acts on Youtube with 2.6 and 1.9 million views respectively. Maybe not what the people want to listen but defintely seems like they want to watch it.
Those are not huge viewing figures, especially considering that Spain is a big country with overhyped fans that are probably watching their own entry on repeat.
I like the song , also many people will vote for Ukraine out of Pity and Spite against Russia. That’s a given .
The song will get excessively disproportionate more votes than it would have gotten in a non war year.
No hate to Ukraine –the situation they’re going through is awful and they deserve our support, but their song isn’t the best this year and it’d feel very unfair for all of the other acts if they won :/
Yet according to Spotify people are listening to it. Can we dispell this now that they are getting pity votes? Can we now just say people like the song? I get you might not like the song, which is absolutely fine, but I doubt people are going on Spotify for a pity listen.
Is it your favourite song this year?
Its one of my faves, yeah. I’m not a rap fan at all, its been one of my faves since before vidbir.
Dude, you’re delusional if you think the whole situation hasn’t influenced the perception and the buzz around the Ukrainian entry. It’s not a bad song, but given Ukraine’s track record it’s the worst song they’ve sent since 2011
I never said that its hasn’t influenced voting but let’s not take away from people who like the song. As I said, it wouldn’t be so high Spotify out of pity.
Yet according to Spotify people are listening more to other songs.
It’s not an unlistenable song but it’s probably not the best song of all the songs of this year.
It’s top 5 material imo, I wouldn’t be mad if they win. Watch out with overreacting at a good position for Ukraine tomorrow. Not voting KalushO for political reasons is as political as voting the song for political reasons. Both are bad. What I think is not fine is: 1) Countries saying they can host ESC 2023 if Ukraine wins even before the final takes place 2) Some countries with ukr flag in the green room. I think it would be a nice sign if all the countries have the flag, but if only one or two have them i… Read more »
Probably upset you quite a bit that Slo Mo isnt up there, getting real tired of alot of the content of your social media just being chanel chanel chanel
Spain is typical song – ESC fans love it, other population absolutely doesnt care about this type of cheap pop song.
Its a latin song that could do well in spanish/latin charts. There is a reason why artists like rosalia and anitta dont do well in european charts other than in Spain
Actually that goes for Sweden.
Because spain hasn’t performed yet and the songs from semi 1 have had 3 days of time to go viral.
Malik Harris and Sam Ryder seem not to be having any issues though lol
So basically your point stands only if situation is still the same 2 days after the grand final.
I think the real reason why plenty of us have reservations about Ukraine winning (even if we love the song and the performance) is that, as Eurovision fans, we probably spend of time insisting to casual viewers that no, Eurovision is not “all politics”, actually. The music and performance aspect is the important part that determines the results (and this especially the case for the fans in the UK). But if Ukraine wins tomorrow, that is all going to be an incredibly difficult argument to make, at least for the next year or two. No amount of insisting that the… Read more »
Ethan, I would suggest that if this scenario plays out as you envisage, you explain to these casual viewers that culture does not exist in a vacuum, and that it is—always has been, and always will be—indivisible from politics; that neither Ukraine nor Kalush Orchestra orchestrated the invasion of their country in order to win Eurovision, and that this unexpected occurrence has unavoidably altered the reception of their song beyond their (or our) control; and that fairness is an ephemeral and useless concept in the exercise of judging art. Art is not fair; and judgment is even less so. If… Read more »
Beautifully said
In my country, even those that don’t watch eurovision are saying that Ukraine is going to win because of political reasons, and they are not even following odds
Some of them didn’t even hear a Ukraine’s song
David Frum, former speech writer for George W. Bush, tweeted that Sweden joining NATO will make NATO in to a Eurovision super power.
Not a great joke, but seeing someone like him make it threw me …
De Diepte is my favorite song of this year, and I’m glad to see it’s having a huge appeal! I really see S10 snatching a high place tomorrow 🙂
I wouldn’t be mad if Ukraine win tomorrow but as others have stated I hope they win based on the song and not the political climate. I do unfortunately think the latter will have an influence on their victory. That being said I think the top 10 in no order will be: Greece Italy Moldova Netherlands Norway Serbia Spain Sweden Ukraine UK I can see juries pushing for Greece, Italy (amusingly considering the juries usually hate them but this year I see the juries pushing them more than the televote), Spain, Sweden and UK. I can see the televote pushing… Read more »
It’s interesting that the Netherlands is this popular in Spotify. I really hope this translates to a high televoting score tomorrow. S10 has the best song this year for me and she deserves to finish really high!
I think it’s already the most streamed Dutch song ever, which is impressive! And I’m happy for Stien, she deserves all the success she’s getting 🙂
I suspect that she’ll do good tomorrow. Could aim for the top 3. I am going to be voting for her certainly!
no not just domestic, the international support for the song of The Netherlands is growing on You Tube as well since the semi’s she won’t win but she might do better than expected…?
I adore Netherlands’s song this year.
given my top two were both eliminated in the disgraceful semi yesterday (malta cyprus) here is my top for the final.
Get back to earth, Italy is not winning. Enough of the delusion.
Maybe just respect the persons taste! They didn’t say that this is gonna be the end result!
hey hey that´s interesting: germany at no.2.( my home country) 🙂 you will get a lot of toxic feedback here ( the same happened to me), from so-called eurovision fans. i like the different tasts of music here. my top 25: 1.Italy: Mahmood & Blanco – Brividi 2.Switzerland: Marius Bear – Boys Do Cry 3.Ukraine: Kalush Orchestra – Stefania 4.United Kingdom: Sam Ryder – SPACE MAN 5.Poland: Ochman – River 6. Moldova: Zdob ?i Zdub & Fra?ii Advahov – Trenule?ul 7.France: Alvan & Ahez – Fulenn 8.Belgium: Jérémie Makiese – Miss You 9.Netherlands: S10 – De Diepte 10.Czech Republic: We… Read more »
Omg you’re actually so nice compared to so many people here! really refreshing to actually, appreciate it.
UK 12 at least top 5
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I don’t want mini-Russia to win. I’m talking about Serbia.
The racists coming out of the woodwork in full force today. Sad.
Good and bad people are in every country and everywhere. Seems to me you’re one of the bad ones.
Who asked you?
Oh, here we go again with overgeneralizations of Serbs. I personally think you could then call so many other European countries mini-USA or mini-Israel as neither of the two are any better than Russia 😉
Sorry to tell you, but the vast majority of serbs support war crimes and geno cides.
oh just shut up. getting so tired of these kinds of comments. enjoy the music, enjoy the show, stop hating.
Spanish and Swedish TV channels announced they would host Eurovision 2023 if Ukraine wins.
But , both Spain and Sweden are also favourites. Why they already accepted the victory of another country? Maybe because the winner was already chosen.
Yeah, I bet Ukraine would want to move its contest to Spain or Sweden cause they’re so damn close.
Ukraine is the winner by 100%. Its without doubt. Question is who will be second? Norway, Italy? We will see.
Exactly. The second place is important because they SHOULD ask the runner up to host next year. According to the odds , UK and Sweden are competing for the second place
Am I the only one the think that odds are crazy ? I mean they put france 17th and underrated many country …. ?
Not sure if the odds should be taken seriously at all this year with 60% for Ukraine and just 1% winning possibilty for the rest starting from #6(!) – There might be some surprises tomorrow.
I concur. Given the news coverage on Ukraine, it has in a way fuelled a form of targeted advertisement and has made it easier for people to bet on Ukraine. I do see Ukraine finish Top 3 in the public vote, that’s a given however given the running order for Ukraine and the songs stacked along side it; especially in the first half between songs 7-13, I feel with syphon the votes from Ukraine particularly in the Jury vote.
Bear in mind over a millions Ukrainians are currently not in Ukraine, and that the Ukrainian song is very popular with Ukrainians AND non-Ukrainians. It will be quite surprising if it’s not THE most popular in televoting.
Odds = people THINK this and that. It’s nothing to do with “possibilities”.
The odds dont even correspond to the popularity of a song entry just on how much people are betting on that song. There will be surprises in the finale. I doubt very much the current odds will represent what the top 10 actually will be. The Jury is what will be interesting in the final. We just dont know where they will put their votes.
Yeah but we haven’t seen the top five perform so it will always do this. It could be correct or not, but who knows until tomorrow.
Why is that crazy, im into betting and I think its the right odds.
Don‘t underestimate the Wolves, they likely get loads of Televote points, I can see them finishing in Top 10 with ease.
Lots of superficial voters who don’t really give a fck about the contest, of course the banana song can do it…
A catchy circus is still a circus, no matter how hard the fanboys clap their butts.
They could win younger viewers will love them.
Most younger viewers I know hate it, most people stanning this song are what we call chavorrucos in my country
Just watch at esctracker.com Sweden might win, too.
If people decide to vote for Ukraine, who we can blame for it? I mean how can we even know who voted for what reason? Rules are obvious: when one country get the highest point it will win the whole thing.
Ukraine is not my top 1 this year but I wont be upset if they win. I dont get why people saying that if EBU allow them to win the contest will lose credibility. Come on.. what they should do? Block the votes coming for Ukraine?
Exactly
I don’t disagree. Folks are allowed to vote who they vote for. I think the only thing people are pointing out however, is the falsehood that Eurovision is somehow apolitical. It is difficult to say so when Ukraine’s winning chances jumped way up to number 1 only following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Don’t get me wrong, I love Ukraine’s song (its in my personal top 10 and I listen to it a lot), but I think it is fair to say that sympathy for the plight of Ukraine has given the entry a lot of momentum. Nevertheless, if they win,… Read more »
I agree with your statements Lolek, however if Ukraine does win it does change the landscape of the contest and the EBU going further. All this is up in the air until tomorrow but, history teaches us that songs like Stefania do not do well when it comes to Jury voting and given who Ukraine is stacked with in their section of songs, the Juries will most likely not put them as high as people think and want them to be.
That is the thing, Eurovision was never apolitical. The EBU can try to convey that, but almost every year there is a political topic in the contest – Armenia/Azerbaijan, Russia/Ukraine, Russia/Georgia, Israel, Balkans… When you have an international contest with country representation it’s not possible to say that politics will stay away from the coverage and public support. However, I do feel that the public usually vote in the songs that they like (Russia has massive public votes in the previous years and there was already a lot going on). So I am not worried that Ukraine will distort the… Read more »
Very That MaryFT, it is hard to pinpoint but, I do feel that the UK and Sweden are the two vying it out for the win. Ukraine will have some Jury support but no means a victory result, I have said a similar result to Go_A from last year is likely and remains the narrative that I stand behind when it comes to Ukraine’s finishing result.
“That is the thing, Eurovision was never apolitical”.
I agree 100%. Honestly, if we go back to the 1950s, supposedly Eurovision was created a way of reuniting a war torn Europe (that’s at least the story we’ve all heard). Is that not technically political itself?
I heard a blog say people bloc vote, or vote for the hottest person or some other reason all the time so why is this different? War is war but I’d have to agree. This was always a banger but I’d say let’s just vote who for who we want to and if you don’t like it, let’s just put it down to the fact it was a good song for some people.
The apolitical argument was surely dispelled long ago? Why have Belarus and Russia been expelled from the contest this year? It is impossible to segregate the country from the song in a competition like ESC. It is definitely not all about the song and never has been.
^ v good point. 3 factors worth considering: 1: Ukraine folk/electro crossover last year came from (almost) nowhere in odds to get 2nd in public vote; I voted for it. Lots of people thought it was odd, but for me it was easily my favourite Eurovision entry in decades of watching. 2: many juries (including “mine”: UK) ignored Shum. Many juries who are at least partly composed of people whose *job* it is to second guess what music the public will like. Ukraine’s entry this year may be similarly unlikely as traditional pop fare (if such a thing exists anymore);… Read more »
If Ukraine wins, I would blame the juries
For sure, no way it should do better than GO_A last year that finished 9th in the jury side with 97 points. So Ukraine with more than 100 points in the jury side will already be a sign of a vote regardless the song.
Exactly. Ukraine winning is people’s will. No one can stop those votes. No one can be blamed for those votes.
I think the Bookies are sleeping on the Netherlands.. I think she came 2nd in Semi final 1. and i think she will do much better tomorrow than a lot of people expect…
The Netherlands has always been a favorite imo
the song is growing in popularity since the semi’s
since the semi’s the international support for de diepte on you tube is huge…
The bookies are “sleeping” because the song is a sleeping pill. She is very pleasant to listen to, the song is sweet and cute and all that, but 3 minutes pass by as the most static ones in the contest. Nothing is happening here vocally, musically or performance-wise.
Agree! I think she has a very silent fan base and I have a gut feeling that she will receive 150+ points from the televote.
I think this is moving towards an easy victory for Ukraine
But it’s of course politics too.
This whole narrative about Ukraine winning is a complete non-starter. Given the running order and those who are stacked against Ukraine in the 1st Half, there is no way that the Ukraine can get enough Jury support to be able to take the trophy. If Ukraine does win, the contest and the EBU will lose all legitimacy and credibility they have as well as their neutral/apolitical status and stance. I will still follow the contest as I had done in years past but, the light will be dimmed for a long time if this happens, I think a lot of… Read more »
Then please tell the televoters to not vote for Ukraine!
Boy you’re going to end up wjth egg on your face when the juries rank Ukraine I’m the top 3, remember everyone in 2018 saying they’d talk Israel, but Israel ended up in their top 5.
They’ve been given a prime spot to launch a win and with the way the juries work, high points allow solidarity to be registered.
Plus it’s a decent interesting song with a European indigenous flair.
If Ukraine are in the top 5 of the first 8ish juries, its a done deal PERIOD
You’re the one that will have egg on their face when the UK wins tomorrow. I do not see in any capacity or legitimacy that the Ukraine will end up in the juries that high. It is just not fathomable.
Remember, there are many juries from ex-Soviet republics. I’d say more than enough for Ukraine to win. Of course, the fact that they have a decent song and that both the song and their performance are admirably dignified, helps a lot. For that reason only, I wouldn’t mind if they won – although it’s a fact that they would never have won in regular circumstances.
Yeah, the contest’s reputation’s at stake. I don’t know what to expect after tomorrow 🙁
Netherlands, deservenlgy so. She almost brought me to tears on her semifinal. She is in my winner, even though Ukraine is unchallengable this year
I cried for both! Loved them