Another Eurovision complete, and another set of results to analyse and scrutinise. Following the reveal of the overall semi-final results last night, the EBU revealed the full break-down of all the point distributions, giving us a chance to see who the jury/televote helped and hindered.

And there’s a lot to digest! Many fans knew that this year’s contest would be one of the most unpredictable yet. But the split semi-final results reveal that there were considerable differences between the juries and televoting public throughout the contest.

The rankings below reveal the split-results as well as the difference in placing of the jury compared to the televote.

Semi-Final 1

Overall results

 

1. Israel (283 points)
2. Cyprus (262 points)
3. Czech Republic (232 points)
4. Austria (231 points)
5. Estonia (201 points)
6. Ireland (179 points)
7. Bulgaria (177 points)
8. Albania (162 points)
9. Lithuania (119 points)
10. Finland (108 points)
11. Azerbaijan (94 points)
12. Belgium (91 points)
13. Switzerland (86 points)
14. Greece (81 points)
15. Armenia (79 points)
16. Belarus (65 points)
17. Croatia (63 points)
18. F.Y.R. Macedonia (24 points)
19. Iceland (15 points)

 

Televote

  1. Cyprus (173 points)
  2. Czech Republic (134 points)
  3. Estonia (120 points)
  4. Israel (116 points)
  5. Austria (116 points)
  6. Ireland (108 points)
  7. Finland (73 points)
  8. Bulgaria (70 points)
  9. Lithuania (62 points)
  10. Greece (53 points)
  11. Albania (48 points)
  12. Azerbaijan (47 points)
  13. Belarus (45 points)
  14. Armenia (41 points)
  15. Switzerland (27 points)
  16. Belgium (20 points)
  17. Croatia (17 points)
  18. FYR Macedonia (6 points)
  19. Iceland (0 points)

Jury

  1. Israel (167 points) [+3]
  2. Austria (115 points) [+3]
  3. Albania (114 points) [+8]
  4. Bulgaria (107 points) [+4]
  5. Czech Republic (98 points) [-3]
  6. Cyprus (89 points) [-5]
  7. Estonia (81 points) [-4]
  8. Ireland (71 points) [-2]
  9. Belgium (71 points) [+7]
  10. Switzerland (59 points) [+5]
  11. Lithuania (57 points) [-2]
  12. Azerbaijan (47 points) [=]
  13. Croatia (46 points) [+4]
  14. Armenia (38 points) [=]
  15. Finland (35 points) [-8]
  16. Greece (28 points) [-6]
  17. Belarus (20 points) [-4]
  18. FYR Macedonia (18 points) [=]
  19. Iceland (15 points) [=]

Cyprus came out on top of the televote, but could only manage sixth place with the juries, who instead put Israel on top.

The biggest difference in rankings were Albania and Finland. The jury obviously got behind Eugent’s vocal power, placing him third, but the public weren’t quite as taken and ranked him eight places lower in eleventh. It was the other way around for Saara Aalto, who secured seventh place with the televote, but the juries only placed her 15th, again eight ranks lower.

In addition to Finland, the jury would have kicked Lithuania’s Ieva out of the qualification spots, replacing them with Belgium and Switzerland. The televoters, on the other hand, would have put Greece through instead of Albania.

Iceland’s Ari was the only act to receive zero points from either sets of votes in the semi-finals. His total of 15 points came solely from the jury, with the audiences at home not giving him any love.

Semi-Final 2

Overall results

 

1. Norway (266 points)
2. Sweden (254 points)
3. Moldova (235 points)
4. Australia (212 points)
5. Denmark (204 points)
6. Ukraine (179 points)
7. The Netherlands (174 points)
8. Slovenia (132 points)
9. Serbia (117 points)
10. Hungary (111 points)
11. Romania (107 points)
12. Latvia (106 points)
13. Malta (101 points)
14. Poland (81 points)
15. Russia (65 points)
16. Montenegro (40 points)
17. San Marino (28 points)
18. Georgia (24 points)

 

Televote

  1. Denmark (164 points)
  2. Moldova (153 points)
  3. Norway (133 points)
  4. Ukraine (114 points)
  5. Hungary (88 points)
  6. Sweden (83 points)
  7. Australia (82 points)
  8. Serbia (72 points)
  9. Slovenia (65 points)
  10. Poland (60 points)
  11. Russia (51 points)
  12. The Netherlands (47 points)
  13. Romania (40 points)
  14. Montenegro (17 points)
  15. San Marino (14 points)
  16. Latvia (14 points)
  17. Georgia (13 points)
  18. Malta (8 points)

Jury

  1. Sweden (171 points) [+5]
  2. Norway (133 points) [+1]
  3. Australia (130 points) [+4]
  4. The Netherlands (127 points) [+8]
  5. Malta (93 points) [+13]
  6. Latvia (92 points) [+10]
  7. Moldova (82 points) [-5]
  8. Romania (67 points) [+5]
  9. Slovenia (67 points) [=]
  10. Ukraine (65  points) [+6]
  11. Serbia (45 points) [-3]
  12. Denmark (40 points) [-11]
  13. Hungary (23 points) [-8]
  14. Montenegro (23 points) [=]
  15. Poland (21 points) [-5]
  16. Russia (14 points) [-5]
  17. San Marino (14 points) [-2]
  18. Georgia (11 points) [-1]

There was even more difference between the juries and televotes in semi-final 2. Perhaps surprisingly to many, Denmark came out on top of the televote, with viewers at home loving the viking realness Rasmussen was serving. However, the juries ranked him a considerable 11 places lower, putting him 12th. The juries instead put Sweden in first, which is five places higher than where the public ranked Benjamin Ingrosso in sixth.

The biggest difference in rank though was for Malta. The juries were definitely feeling Christabelle’s attempt to break the taboo, ranking her fifth. But she received drastically less support from the viewing public, who placed her dead last, 13 places lower.

In addition to Malta, the juries would have put Latvia and Romania through as qualifiers, knocking Serbia, Denmark and Hungary out of the ten qualifying spots.

The public however would have liked to have seen Poland in final, placing Gromee and Lukas Meijer tenth. As a result they would have not put The Netherlands through, with Waylon only coming 12th in the televotes.

What do you think of the split results? Do you agree with the public’s decision, or are you on the side of the jury? Let us know in the comments below!

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Ang
Ang
5 years ago

Those sore losers fail to realize that only 15-20% of the entire Eurovision audience does actually vote, so if the winning song would be chosen by them, it’ll win only for that 15% which comprises of kids and trolls standing with a cell-phone in front of TV. Over 80% of the Eurovision audience does NOT participate in televote, therefore they are represented by professional juries.

Lazarevfan
Lazarevfan
5 years ago

I loved the jury vote this year while I hated it in 2016. I just accepted there wont ever be 100% in agreement with them every year & I dont have to. I can thank them for high placing of Austria it was 100% deserved! Congrats Cesar! Not in my wildest dreams could I imagine my fav song placing #3!!! & geerally top 3 is all great song of different genres. I really hope next year we’ll hear lots of ethnopop! ;)) & thatxenophobic ‘human rights activist’ person who bashes eastern Europe 24/7 can **** it :)))) we’ll all come… Read more »

Maria
Maria
5 years ago

The jurors are also biased. Your comment are all about what we wont or cant see. To me it makes no sense, what is your background for writing this.

Gerome
Gerome
5 years ago
Reply to  Maria

Your English is broken and lacks a basic level of clarity, so I am unsure how to respond to your comment/question or whatever it was meant to be (?!)

Finch
Finch
5 years ago

Actually, the televote should be reduced from 50 to 25% . Eurovision has had 215 professional juries this year, therefore they cannot be wrong but children with cell-phones in front of TV be right! Eurovision is NOT the X-Factor but a pan-European cultural event, and that’s why those who do well on those lame talent shows (and even those who act as judges or coaches in them), always fail in Eurovision! This fact confirms that audience is incapable of valuation and reinforces the idea that Eurovision should be all about the juries. Period.

Eurovision Pal
Eurovision Pal
5 years ago
Reply to  Finch

Absolutely! Without professional juries, Eurovision would become an Eastern European-owned enterprise with forged televote and a lawless gambling paradise! As long as Eastern Europe and Caucasus remain in this game, there’s no chance for televote to become a sole determining factor, and they can forget about that dream right now!

lucky stranger
lucky stranger
5 years ago
Reply to  Eurovision Pal

oh again its biased westerners talking. Go back to watching CNN

Esc2018
Esc2018
5 years ago
Reply to  Finch

Witch please, as if These “Music professionals” are not biased because of their record Label or the Country their are from. Just look at the Azeri and armenian juries they always give each other last place no matter the song.

Nat
Nat
5 years ago
Reply to  Finch

Lol! this is a song competition, and you let all the power into the Jury? The juries have screwed up so many good songs, not to mention that some of the juries give points to their neighboring countries. Does that even fair??

escfan
escfan
5 years ago

i cannot see a reason as to why some people support the juries.Only explanation is that their country did well thanks to them. When i look at the results i understand that the people are far more fair and they should have the only power.Two are the biggest reasons.Firstly you see cases where big favourite s juries chose not to give even a single point to the other favourite while the public did fairly so. And secondly you cannot say that the jurries went for the quality entries,austria and sweden beacause it s like you are saying that there were… Read more »

Bergmar
Bergmar
5 years ago
Reply to  escfan

With due respect, but your presumption is not true! I am from Iceland which is notoriously underrated by juries, and yet, every Eurovision fan here supports the jury idea. Anyone who despises the juries is either sore Eastern European or simply an ill-minded person striving for anarchy.

escfan
escfan
5 years ago
Reply to  Bergmar

So you actually believe that the jurries particularly this year valuated the songs and performances from a professional perspective? Imo as i said above they failed miserably to do so. I think people are the best judge .If countries that do badly with the televoting and think it is because of the people wanna do better maybe they should consider sending a better song. I am sure that people will appreciate it no matter the country.We dont need juries to define quality especially when their are in no way doing so.And no Bergmar with due respect i am not an… Read more »

Ang
Ang
5 years ago
Reply to  escfan

Darling, if a song is truly great, it will win regardless of the juries! If televote from 8-10 countries out of 40-something, would give 12 points to one song, it will win even if juries rank it last, so don’t blame professionals when your favorite song doesn’t attract enough televotes to progress in this admittedly tough competition. And besides, only 15-20% of the entire Eurovision audience does actually vote, so that would make the winning song completely unwarranted! Over 80% of the Eurovision audience is represented by the juries.

Sara
Sara
5 years ago

People are so dumb. The point of having both jury and Televoting is to bring in different views. If both voted exactly the same there would be no point. The jury are professionals within the music field and will of course see things differently than a kid with a cellphone in Azerbaijan..

Esc2018
Esc2018
5 years ago
Reply to  Sara

But it should not be that majority of the Jury thinks of one song as the worst song of the 26 presented andmajority of the Public thinks it’s the best song of the 26

Sara
Sara
5 years ago
Reply to  Esc2018

You still dont get the point. Juries and televoters dont necessarily need to vote exactly the same. A music professional might like a song that does not appeal to the general public… And might not like a somg that appeals to the general public…

Esc2018
Esc2018
5 years ago
Reply to  Sara

And you still don’t get my Point. I understand that they cannot vote exactly the same but if you look at the statistics: a Difference in Placements of 15-20 between Jury and Televote for the same song is statistically very unlikely, but still it happens more often every year.

AurelianTamisan
AurelianTamisan
5 years ago

Pretty surprised not about the differences between countries, but for the differences between the semi-finals and the final. Israel just 4th with the televote in the semis, but clear winner in the final?! That is a little strange for me, it seems that they did some propaganda between semi-final 1 and final. I think tha juries were quite proffesional this year, I just don’t get why they also put Israel so high. Ok, they knew that they will win the televote, but they are there exactly to stop a song winning for other things beside music. And they are, every… Read more »

HelloEurope
HelloEurope
5 years ago

Jury members should not get to know which country a song is from so that there would be no political voting

Sara
Sara
5 years ago
Reply to  HelloEurope

The televoters votes politically… Not the jury.

Esc2018
Esc2018
5 years ago
Reply to  Sara

Both do actually, so…

HelloEurope
HelloEurope
5 years ago

Why does the EBU only publish the top ten of each Country in the Televote and Jury Ranking?
The last few years the published the full ranking, so you could rank the countries in the old System.
Do you know why or where I can find the full Rankings?

Esc2018
Esc2018
5 years ago

I have the feeling that every year it gets worse with the differences between Jury and Televote. I know that id would be ridiculous if they would agree 100% or even 90%. But I dont understand how “Music experts” can rank one song second place and the Public 23rd like Sweden this year. Or look at Australia last year. How can “Music experts” and the public have such a different opinion. If it were 2nd and 10th I would understand, but 2nd and 23rd is a huge difference. This is not criticism towards Sweden, I like the song It is… Read more »

Sara
Sara
5 years ago
Reply to  Esc2018

Its the point…different views

William
William
5 years ago
Reply to  Esc2018

Surely you refute your own argument. Sweden coming second in the jury vote is understandable – it was a well-produced, well executed pop song (though not one I liked at all). Sweden (or indeed Australia) coming so close to bottom in the televote seems inexplicable. So if you want to get rid of one system of voting, it should be the televote you abandon, not the juries. Just because it’s “the public” doesn’t mean that the televote has more merit, it is much more likely to be influenced by famous block voting.

Esc2018
Esc2018
5 years ago
Reply to  William

But then why should millions of People watch the Show if five “Music Experts” of each Country decide the winner???

And I don’t understand why you think that only the Televote is influenced by block voting.
The Juries don’t act as professional as they should and they are the “Experts”.
Otherwise you wouldn’t have Azerbaijan and Armenian Juries rank the other song dead last no matter how good the song is.

sue
sue
5 years ago

This time I stand with the juries! (exception: sweden). I am so happy they helped Albania!! and for my surprise they didn’t underrate switzerland. I just don’t think Ukraine and Portugal deserved their low places
but overall I am happy with the results, my favorite was Bulgaria but I knew it was going to be hard…congrats Netta! and Cyprus, you can feel proud, Eleni did a great job

Sara
Sara
5 years ago
Reply to  sue

Still butthurt over swedens success.. Lol

William
William
5 years ago

I haven’t had time to read all four hundred comments, but two simple facts come to mind to explain the difference between televoter and jury results. Firstly, you do have to remember that both sets of voters do not watch and vote at the same show. Secondly I presume that, as in the old days, jury members take their role quite seriously and listen to the songs several times beforehand. The huge majority of televoters on the other hand only hear the songs once. No offence to any of the contributors to this website, or to the people like me… Read more »

Denis
Denis
5 years ago

Instead of bashing on Sweden and taking pride that it didn’t do that well, how about accepting that maybe it has an appeal? Just because you dont see it doesn’t mean there isn’t any. Instead of acting like jealous butthurt 5 year olds which goes against what ESC stands for maybe stop and think why are they so succesfull and why isn’t my country doing the same? Without writing your usual nonsense braindead zombie stuff about buying a place

Euphoric
Euphoric
5 years ago

With the juries it shouldn’t be about their taste but about objective marking songs, performers and performances. The juri should give points to best songs, best vocals, best productions. Not because of a taste, but because of the music value of the act!
5 people has the same power as 10000 televoters.
Why, if they vote because of their taste? They can use the televoting in that case.

Sara
Sara
5 years ago
Reply to  Euphoric

They are professionals. They work with music every day…

Simon
Simon
5 years ago

I will say this then i will take a break from Eurovision:). I have watched this year and 5 years back how the countries have voted in televoting and it was almost the same 12 points this year as for the last 5 years. The jurys was not even close to that voting. So the persons who favour the televotes dont have good arguments anymore. and please stop with the swede hate. As a swede i am really sad to read all this so i take a break from all hate:(. this is not politics, its Eurovision so why the… Read more »

Luke
Luke
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Just because you got this perception of the juries fairnes , its not true. Please provide actual statistics.

And about the last paragraph a look inwards may prove beneficiary. I have never read so many foul remarks as from the swedes in this forum. Its not the tolerant and non nationalistic sweden I used to know.

Polegend Godgarina
5 years ago

What were those tasteless Björkman puppets also known as juries thinking in order to rank Sweden’s banal song and awful vocal performance so high?

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago

You are being rude. Neither of these people or countries deserve that puppet word and that performance is not that awful as you described. I just agree with determination of running order. Ebu must bring back the exact draw that determines the exact number that country participates.

Angelo
Angelo
5 years ago
Reply to  Aytek

Power can be demonstrated in many ways. Puppet might be a strong word but nonetheless they live up to mr bjorkmans expectations every year. I have no idea whether he knows some of the jurors but his behavior is similar to the presidents for IOC and Fifa. I overhead some people from the swedish delegation talk about him and they see him as a god. And so does his fans.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago

Once again, Portugal and Ukraine asked for his help and once again, he dont sing, he is the advisor. and once again, He dont decide Eurovison. You should maybe get some help for your swede hate?

Angelo
Angelo
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Who came up with running order, portugal or mr bjorkman?
Who made ukraine showing interval act with swedes and a character from a swedish childrens book.
Why is sweden always favoured by the juries?

In this business help is not for free and though i dont believe its bad intentions from the swedes youre completely entangled in the contest and should step back. Whats the problem in that?

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Angelo

Why did Portugal and Ukraine ask him then? they didnt have to. So your argument is silly

Angelo
Angelo
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Because their network are rather poor. Pls now answer my questions.

Sara
Sara
5 years ago

Stfu

Simon
Simon
5 years ago

who votes 20 times for a country anyway? i voted 4 times for Estonia and 4 times for Ireland 🙂 it costs money

Eurovision Pal
Eurovision Pal
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Eastern junk like Russia, Ukraine, Serbia, Moldova, etc, would totally vote more than 500 times from various cell phones because voting there is cheap while sim cards are available by street dealers there for as little as 5 Euro in their currencies. Eastern Europe is desperate to win the Eurovision, and without juries, their forged televote would surely keep it there forever!

Just
Just
5 years ago
Reply to  Eurovision Pal

Yeah they have nothing to do just calling over and over again. Everyone can send sms or call. Don’t be silly and childish. The cheapest calls are in Western Europe

shark
shark
5 years ago

As usually, I agree so much more with the jury. The bloc voting is just rampant in the televote and this is refreshing. I’m not surprised with Austria and Sweden being at the top – we could see that the jury couldn’t reach consensus on their favorites this year, while these two were safe quality choices that likely appeared at some position in every juror’s top-10.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  shark

It would be kind of boring if the jury and the televoters always agreed. dont you think :)? Albania and Estonia was great. I would have put them higher and actually my country Sweden little lower in 9-10th place. Yes we swedes are neutral ;).

Romeo
Romeo
5 years ago

I think that the voting system should be changed. It is unfair, that everyone can vote 20 times for the same song. There should be the limit of 5 votes and a possibility to vote only one for one song. Why? Imagine 10 people voting. Me and 8 of the voters would vote for Cyprus (example) but only one time. We would find Israel very good (2-10 place) but we vote only once because we think that our vote is valuable. One person vote for Israel 20 times. Because he can. Is it fair? Is Israel chosen by the majority?… Read more »

Camilla
Camilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Romeo

In many countries you can only vote one time for each country. In Denmark you can only put one vote per entry

Siki
Siki
5 years ago

I’m really sick of them always pushing Sweden down our throats. It’s like a place in the top HAS to be guaranteed for them. Now, I’m fine with Sweden getting the backing when they deserve it, and they are the best hosts ever, but come on. This year was so out of touch with reality. Watch some reactions and comments, and you’ll see people feeling like justice happened when Sweden ranked low with the televote. And it is justice. We spend money to vote only to have someone no one voted for getting all 12s. And I feel bad because… Read more »

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago
Reply to  Siki

Swedish song was not that bad. Not that low televote. He could get 100 points from it.this result was sad for this song

Siki
Siki
5 years ago
Reply to  Aytek

Neither was Ukraine bad, and they ranked it as last.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Siki

yes yes. You want 100% televoting again right so your country can be in the top 5 forever? That time is over now. The jury liked Sweden more then the people did and the people liked Ukraine more then the jury did. Whats wrong with that? Its called different taste. Eurovision is not Turkey. Here you can have different opinions. 50/50 to stay!

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

My country entered top 5 with good songs. Such as düm tek tek , For real , Dinle , we could be the same vs. They were good and well placed. Our bad entries may not came last as did back in 90s because of televotes but it’s not enough to put bad songs to top 10. Every country has some advantages and disadvantages. If you dont like dont participate in it.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Aytek

Turkey can never be in Eurovision anymore beacuse you dont follow the human rights. You cant compare the 90s with now. Turks in Germany for example ALWAYS vote for Turkey even if they send a song with no words in it and you know it. Thats why televoting 100% is bad.

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

is it in your hands to decide my country’s participation in the contest? You are hateful guy and dont know how to speak in here but know very well about human rights. When Norway gives 12 to Swedish bad songs why no one makes drama as you do now? Please speak in sense we are not talking about politics in here. You have no Eurovision soul. Also I said a lot of good things about sweden . I dont understand your general hate.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Aytek

Dont you know turkish television dont send LGBT material? They refused to broadcast Finland in 2013 for example So how could Turkey be in it now? its impossible for them. It was not a hateful comment. it was the truth

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Your truhts are only hateful comments about my country. It wasn’t about finland or other countries in 2013. That even wasn’t a topic back then. Because TRT already decided to withdraw from contest and decided to not to air it’s any of shows before the contestants are chosen. Don’t lie people about your wrong thoughts and don’t change topic to political issues. Your country is 23rd in televoting results at this year’s competiton. I think that song could do better but that is the real get use to it.

Mary
Mary
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

its not LGBT song contest but just song contest. No one is obliged to send ‘lgbt material’ *rolleyes*

Siki
Siki
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Lol, my country is never in the top 5 (jury or no jury), and it wouldn’t have qualified anyway, even if only the public vote counted.

Eurovision is for us. For the people watching. If the results reflect what people want to see, then the people are happy. Also “juries” are just random celebrities. If it were really a jury instructed on what Eurovision is, they’d do a better job. I guarantee that each of us is better suited than most of them.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Siki

malta, san marino then. With only televoting. Is that fair to them? there are to many diaspora voters so for them we must have jurys

Siki
Siki
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

You do have a case with diaspora voting. Maybe a tighter control over juries; giving them strict instructions or something. I was very disappointed to see Montenegrin JURY giving Serbia 12pts. I would understand the televote. It would be ‘diaspora’ voting for themselves, but it’s disgraceful that the jury did it.

Mary
Mary
5 years ago
Reply to  Siki

I really miss Turkey :((((( u really sent great songs

Euphoric
Euphoric
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

With the juries it shouldn’t be about their taste but about objective marking songs, performers and performances. The juri should give points to best songs, best vocals, best productions. Not because of a taste, but because of the music value of the act!
5 people has the same power as 10000 televoters.
Why, if they voye because of their taste? Thay can use the televoting in that case.

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago
Reply to  Siki

Yes ukranian song is in my top 10 but jurors dont think like that and it shame of them. I am not defending juries. But public vote is not that accurate neither.

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago
Reply to  Aytek

According to taste of music in general. I dont say sweden had to won televote. I just say that song was better than some other songs( as a vocal+backvocals +music+show) at least ?t could get 80 90 points. Not that 21. Of course public is more important than juries. I am not debating that.

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago
Reply to  Aytek

Ok , calm down I am not acussing you about anything. You don’t understand what I am trying to say. Yes, I agree , maybe both of those contestants 11th in juries / Televote. I never said opposite of this. That’s irrevelant. Then we can’t critisize neither if this year’s San Marinesse entry had gotten top 10 or if Iceland’s song had won this year we just accept without saying anything. I am critsizing only sweden could get much more points ACCORDING to that composition, sound, vocals and staging. With this quality of those subjects Sweden deserves better place than… Read more »

E T
E T
5 years ago

I would like to see more detailed information about the televoting. for example… how many televotes were recorded in each country. How many people voted 20 times, the maximum, and how many 1 time, or 2 times etc… Why do they allow people to make 20 votes? What is the logical behind that number other than to make money? As I have said many times before since the two voting systems are so different in the results they give, I would prefer that we have two winners each year, the Jury winner and the Televote winner. ( with the hosting… Read more »

Sweden Rules
Sweden Rules
5 years ago

Jury vote is always the best. Televoting always spoils everything. It was almost perfect until the audience votes were given. Austria, Germany and Sweden were the highest quality entries, and they deserved to win more than freaky circus like Israel or Moldova… But televoting is also necessary to help modern songs like Cyprus and Czech Republic which were underrated by the juries. So I think it should be like 60% professional jury – 40% televoting. Ps: I’m tired of the Sweden haters. You’re just jealous your country would nevernbe able to send songs and shows as perfect and modern as… Read more »

Maria
Maria
5 years ago
Reply to  Sweden Rules

Youre why people dont like the swedes in the contest.

Sorry
Sorry
5 years ago
Reply to  Maria

Well, we are not all like this. Sorry, from Sweden

Dags att svenskar tänker på vad de skriver så vi andra som försöker vara lite ödmjuka inte drabbas. Skärpning.

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago
Reply to  Sweden Rules

I am from Turkey but even our participated years Sweden sent quality and catchy songs. After 2012 Euphoria , Sweden leveled up indeed and much more quality has been brought by them.especially this years song was better than last year. This year benjamin ingrosso was a great choice and he is a very good performer. He deserved that jury voting. Biggest crime of the night was that televoting results. Melodifestivalen is the best national final ever and people watch it from all over the europe.

Maria
Maria
5 years ago
Reply to  Aytek

How can a televote be a crime?

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Maria

Do you want the same top 5 every year with Armenia,Azerbajdjan,Russia,Romania,Poland in it? Then you must love televoting 100% Turkey quit when they didnt want that anymore.

Polegend Godgarina
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Armenia, Azerbaijan, Russia and Romania weren’t top 10 in televote in the semi-final this year, you’re so out of touch! And even Poland finished 10th.

Leyla
Leyla
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

xenophobes like you are why im disillusioned with humanity

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago
Reply to  Maria

I mean it was wrong of course public vote is not realy crime

Mary
Mary
5 years ago
Reply to  Maria

If televote was a criiime then we could beeeee criminals :))))

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Sweden Rules

Nice opinion. but you know we have to be more quiet here now because everyone thinks Christer Björkman, the swedish songwriters and the swedish public have bought Eurovision and all the jurys for 100 million so we will win it 20 years from now in a row, I know people are really stupid here.

We have 28 songs in Melodifestivalen, its really hard to choose a San marino 2018 song. We promise to try next year so Europe will be happy.

Mari
Mari
5 years ago

Either scrap the jury voting, or scrap the people’s voting. Pick one. Having both is just ridiculous. I’m not happy to spend my money on voting when the end vote is so affected by the jury. It’s like my vote is pointless.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Mari

so you liked the 100% televoting before with the SAME in the top evey year?

WillDoThisLater
WillDoThisLater
5 years ago
Reply to  Mari

But you are aware of the jury voting, so if you don’t like it because you feel it comprises your vote then you can choose to simply not vote.

Niklas
Niklas
5 years ago

The jury shouldn’t have this big of a power. They should give 20-25% of the votes to downplay bloc voting instead of the current 50%. It’s laughable that they keep voting for Sweden every single year. No wonder Sweden threatened to leave Eurovision unless the jury votes are brought back. They practically own Eurovision and know that the jury votes are theirs. Remember when the public chose the winner and Sweden was at the bottom with Finland?

Denis
Denis
5 years ago
Reply to  Niklas

Lol, sure we threatened to leave Eurovision. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better!

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Niklas

When did we threat to leave? But 2007 when it was the most diaspora year with 100% televoting its not fair to allt he artists that spend so much time and money and then people only vote for their home country. is that fair play? Jurys 1000000%

Vanilla
Vanilla
5 years ago

The juries are necessary to prevent the show going back to the toxic era of 100% televoting. Austria was a good example of a quality song having a deserved high placing thanks to the juries. On the other hand they always rate Sweden, Malta & Australia way more than they deserve. This year only Sweden benefited from the high jury ranking, the televoting was right in giving low scores, the song was not the most original & Benjamin voice was not that great.

Niklas
Niklas
5 years ago
Reply to  Vanilla

To be honest, the public voted very fairly this year with countries like Israel, Czech Republic etc getting high scores although they have never benefitted from votes from neighbouring countries. The televotes were a mess when Turkey was participating but they are no longer an issue. That’s why the jury votes seem laughable because it seems that the public is far more fair with their votes than the juries.

Evan
Evan
5 years ago
Reply to  Niklas

Exactly right.

Israeli and Cypriot televoters voted for one another. (Cyprus gave Israel 10 points!) Their juries blanked one another. It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure out the reason for the discrepancy.

Aytek
Aytek
5 years ago
Reply to  Niklas

Televoting was a mess when turkey in? Haha that’s really funny. ?it seems Only country that you complain about is turkey in this entire voting system. Turkey failed to reach finals at 2011 where was that ‘mess’ televotes then?? A year before at oslo turkish song deserved to be in second place. Got points from a lot of different countries. We have some voting allies such Azerbaijan and Germany Belgium.But only azerbaijan gives 12 whatever our song is. And a lot of coutry have that kind of close allies in this copmetition. Dont show turkey as a problem in televotes… Read more »

Isac
Isac
5 years ago
Reply to  Niklas

Could not have said it better myself!
Public votes seem much fairer than jury votes. The whole idea of the jury vote was to counterweight the blocks. Well, guess what? Israel does not belong to ANY block vote, and it won. What does that tell you?
Moreover, Israel televoters voted for favorite Cyprus. Cyprus televoters voted for 2nd favorite Israel. Who did not? The juries of both countries. That tells you that juries are much more inclined to politics and strategy votes. The masses are not so much, since there are just so many of them.

Truth teller
Truth teller
5 years ago
Reply to  Vanilla

1) Israel 2) Cyprus 3) Italy is toxic? I say 2) Sweden is toxic and that was not the televoting.

Ivy
Ivy
5 years ago

I think the jury doesn’t appreciate different genres. I mean they should give more points to Estonia, Portugal, Hungary, etc…
I can see that the next year will be full of boring pop cliché songs…

Ivy
Ivy
5 years ago
Reply to  Ivy

I disagree… As you can see, Estonia did really well in the sf1 with the public and Hungary in sf2 but the jury pushed them back… so I think diversity is much more appreciated by the televoters. The jury appreciate cliché songs like Austria’s song or Sweden’s… and I’m sorry, that’s my opinion. I was shocked because these two songs were okey to me, but nothing more. So everyone should send songs like these with good staging next year so they can have a chance to get some vote from the jury? Btw Portugal was really great, I assume they… Read more »

Trocatroc
Trocatroc
5 years ago

Let the people decide. The Jury’s votes are questionable every year. Sweden was the most obvious example this year in the final.

Polegend Godgarina
5 years ago
Reply to  Trocatroc

This. In the end, jurors vote for what they personally like (or tactically) and most of them aren’t professionals or impartial.

Jatojo
Jatojo
5 years ago

Still, in the case of Denmark, it seems unlogical that both the Norway and Sweden juries give the song 0 points in the final, while the nations’ televoters give top scores. Hungary had Denmark on top, both in the jury and among the televoters. There seems to be something “wrong” here, although I agree with you that the purpose of the juries is not to assess the songs in the same way as the public.

Magpie
Magpie
5 years ago

Hmm, coming from Australia, I never thought we would televote San Marino (of one of two countries), but of course we would televote Malta (of one of two countries).

Must be the Maltese diaspora maybe?

Caliopecaliope
Caliopecaliope
5 years ago

Can’t blame jury much tho. Nobody had the full package that screamed “jury winner” and at the end of the day Austria was just.. there. Now, the 2nd jury favorite was just embarrassing

Blair
Blair
5 years ago
Reply to  Caliopecaliope

Austria – great radio friendly song which was sang great by a stunning man. But I understand why it didn’t clicked with the audience, that song wasn’t what you expect from Eurovision. For tv watchers the winner should be a great entertaining show like for example this year’s fuego, toy or lie to me or a very heart touching performence like sobral’s song, molitva, Jamala’s 1944 and many others. And in Cesar Sampson’s case – I think that his song already is on many people playlists. And this is why artists are joining Eurovision, not only for winning. If it… Read more »

Sofia 2019
Sofia 2019
5 years ago

Man i would love to see Bulgaria and Hungary quit this contest for good , i mean its such a shame to put so much work and sleepless nights into your entry , serving pure quality and then just to be ignored like that in favour of chicken and Beyonce wanna be songs , the Jury’s backing AGAIN and AGAIN Australia and Sweden and for some weird reason Austria that i didnt even remember when it came on the final. Bulgaria in the semi didnt look as good as expected , but they totally crushed it on the final ,… Read more »

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Sofia 2019

So Bulgaria should be top 5 EVERY year according to you? Sometimes Europe dont like your song, sometimes they do. Its Eurovision. Bulgaria and Greece cant take failure so good i have noticed here and on You tube. You are very angry people. Join Turkvision?

Susan
Susan
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

I can say same thing about you guys in Sweden 😀

Yaa
Yaa
5 years ago
Reply to  Sofia 2019

Austria and Bulgaria and The Nethellands were jury bait, Australia,Sweden France, Estonia were jury poison!

Marcelo
Marcelo
5 years ago
Reply to  Sofia 2019

Um… “Bones” sucked. Nothing about quality in a Sia emo rip-off.

Chandelier
Chandelier
5 years ago
Reply to  Marcelo

“Bones” wishes it was as good as a Sia song.

Denis
Denis
5 years ago
Reply to  Sofia 2019

Your point doesn’t make sense. Bulgaria faired much better with juries than with audience. Don’t see how it was ignored.
The song got what it deserved. it was far from being If Love Was a Crime standard. The performance was to artsy, to dark and emo in an already dark year.
But you want to quit because you didn’t reach top 5 for a third year?

Jatojo
Jatojo
5 years ago
Reply to  Sofia 2019

If Bulgaria really wanted to put big effort into the competition, they should compose their own songs instead of having Swedes doing it.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago

Have you seen how the jurys from Azerbajdjan and Armennia voted for eachother AGAIN?

Im so tired of these corrupt cheating countries in Eurovision. Do we need them in it? And Yianna from Greece are not even allowed in Greece to support any song she wants. She said she liked Bulgaria and it was a madhouse. Greece,Azerbajdjan, Armenia,montenegro,Serbia,Russia should leave in my opinion.

Yianna
Yianna
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

yeah make Eurovision great again. Throw away everyone except the Nordics Central & Western Europe :)))) yall feel better u elitist ***** but not Ukraine should stay obv cause its a Western puppet now

AngieP
AngieP
5 years ago

he split results of the semis are out! And there are some really interesting things. 1st semi: Cyprus actually won the televote and Israel won the jury vote. The televote saved Lithuania and Finland. A little surprised for Lithuania, because I thought the juries would get behind it, On the other hand, the juries saved Albania, which was 11th in the televote (I know juries would get behind this song). Greece was 10th in the televote but that wasn’t enough for them to go through. The juries had Belgium and Switzerland in. Azerbaijan missed it in 11th place! 2nd semi… Read more »

eric
eric
5 years ago
Reply to  AngieP

so happy Romania was out of the final. the song was dull and the singer could hardly keep a tone.

Annie
Annie
5 years ago

May I just say that the juries were so unfair. Greece was going to go through, but juries rated it sooo low. However that is not the actual problem. The problem is that the EBU refused in the Jury Show to give the chance to Greece to perform again after major technical issues caused by the organisers and the crew which costed them points from the juries.

eric
eric
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Juries vote for quality

Pierre
Pierre
5 years ago
Reply to  eric

And sweden is the land of golden singers.
Why have you posted the same one eyed statement 37 times?

Sara
Sara
5 years ago
Reply to  Pierre

Because people like you post 37 butthurt messages about Sweden. Simple

Marcelo
Marcelo
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The televoters wanted Greece over Albania. I say, hell no!

Jo.
Jo.
5 years ago
Reply to  Marcelo

Only 5 points tho. If Cyprus wasn’t in that semi, Greece would score -12.

Magpie
Magpie
5 years ago
Reply to  Jo.

You mean -20 from both the televote and jury?

Costa
Costa
5 years ago

Omg the juries these year were absolutely terrible. The difference in the placings of so many countries is huge. It is truly sad to see millions of people voting for songs and supporting them enough to earn a place in the final and then just have a few people in a jury (which btw we are not that sure if they are qualified enough to judge these songs) submit a completely different result and undermine the value of the majority vote. Really hope that juries stop existing, give the voice back to the people. ( as Molly said back in… Read more »

eric
eric
5 years ago
Reply to  Costa

The juries are needed to stop televoters voting for crap…

Blair
Blair
5 years ago
Reply to  Costa

For me it’s important that sometimes juries can save very quality songs like for example Albania. So differences in juries and audience’s votes don’t usually bother me.
Sad is one thing – in case of some countries it is obvious that jurors always vote low. Like for example Poland, no matter what they send as their entry, they will be on the bottom.

Truth teller
Truth teller
5 years ago

Zero points for Iceland is the most deserved result ever! Take that, Thorunn Clausen. You deserve this.
In the semi finals, it only matters if you qualify or not, so the juries did not do much damage, if any.

Lian
Lian
5 years ago

The juries are indeed needed, but how on earth could one justify that, when they got Sweden 2nd and Austria 1st?
I believe that there should be more jurors from each country. It is one thing to sum up the votes from 5 jurors, and another to do the same from 15/20 jurors. Even if they got paid to alternate their results, it would be far more difficult to influence 20 persons from each country. Who would spend that much?

eric
eric
5 years ago
Reply to  Lian

Sweden and Austria sent quality entries to ESC-…. thereby their high placements with the jury

Lian
Lian
5 years ago
Reply to  eric

Quality is subjective. I shouldn’t even reply to you, seeing how you’re spamming the comment section but please, let the rest of Europe have a different taste than you.

Blair
Blair
5 years ago
Reply to  eric

And imagine that this year’s Swedish entry was send by UK, Spain or Poland (juries ‘favourites’). Oh, I can easily see something about maximum 20 points for that ‘generic pop song’.

Mar
Mar
5 years ago

I’m just blown away by the disparity between both juries and televote in the semis and the final. Guess a lot of people changed their minds in a couple of days?
I know we say this every year, but the EBU should really put their foot down when it comes to the sneaky strategic voting some countries always do. And the fact that Sweden is always supported by the juries no matter what they send? Is no one suspicious about that?

Susan
Susan
5 years ago
Reply to  Mar

We are. But what can we do about it?? Nothing, completely nothing.

eric
eric
5 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Sweden send quality songs. Your own country could send just that .. and you would place good

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Mar

Im tired of the Australia,Sweden hate now. Are we corrupt countries that dont care about human rights? Get to them instead. There were 43 jurys and they can listen. Diaspora votes is so much worse

Dimitri Daskalakis
Dimitri Daskalakis
5 years ago
Reply to  Mar

I’m very suspicious

Denis
Denis
5 years ago

Why are people so obseesed over juries? It’s not like they will ever agree with your thought and that is not what they are there for either. I also don’t get why you all claim they are experts. No one has ever stated they are experts
They are just people working in the music industry and see things differently from the average viewer. No one can claim to be an expert in music because that involves what?

eric
eric
5 years ago
Reply to  Denis

Because they want the sleezy songs to place high

Denis
Denis
5 years ago
Reply to  eric

If youre talking about Cyprus that’s the audience!

Rania
Rania
5 years ago

To everyone that says we hate Sweden: We certainly do not hate Sweden. Sweden has given us some great so songs in Eurovision and it’s a beautiful country. It is the juries’ favoritism that we hate. To give a song the 1st (semi) and 2nd (final) position it means you think it is almost the best song of the night ( both vocally and in terms of originality, melody, presentation). I am sorry but Sweden was certainly far from being the best. If you take away the brilliant staging with the lights, the song is forgetable and rather boring. This… Read more »

eric
eric
5 years ago
Reply to  Rania

Juries gives high points to quality entries. Sweden always send great singers and great stage shows. Your own country could start sending the same and get high points.

Pierre
Pierre
5 years ago
Reply to  eric

Sweden always send great singers…
.-) nothing more to say. Vive la Suede!

Melina
Melina
5 years ago

Televoters were far more right what comes to semifinals! And also last night (apart from the lamentable fact of televoters going for Israel’s circus number). Maybe it’s time for the juries to go! They only keep defending boring, MOR radiopop numbers like Sweden & Australia, every year now, and that was NOT their original purpose.

eric
eric
5 years ago
Reply to  Melina

You are butthurt..

Heini
Heini
5 years ago

This is not normal, all Armenian jury members put Azerbaijan last and all Azerbaijan jury members put Armenia last. I think these two countries should be eliminated from the contest. Glad they were not in the final.

Wi Ka
Wi Ka
5 years ago

What would be the point of juries if the rewarded the same points as the televotes? Juries should rate entries based on their quality so we dont end up with entries filled with silly quirks screaming for attention. That would seriously destroy the whole show. In my opinion there are too many entries. People seem to vote for the performance that had a rememberable moment rather then the song as a whole. 4 semifinals with 10 entries each with 2 going through to the final. Then a final with 10 or 12 countries. Done in 2 hours so we all… Read more »

Andy Morse
Andy Morse
5 years ago

I didn’t particularly rate the Norway song but it seems completely wrong that as the winner of Semi Final 2 they were ‘rewarded’ by being buried away in a graveyard early spot of the Grand Final.
I would rather see the Grand Final running order decided by drawing of lots. The draw would make for great television and ease any concerns that certain countries / songs are being given preferential spots under the grounds of an artistic decision made by a single person.

Jo.
Jo.
5 years ago
Reply to  Andy Morse

Moldova also performed 7th in the grand final last year. They did pretty well.

Milla
Milla
5 years ago

Eurovision fans can at times be the cruelest. Cheering when a country that usually do great finally fails.. How disgusting isn’t that? Shame.

Melina
Melina
5 years ago
Reply to  Milla

No, that is only fair, when it is an unfairly puffed “jury pet” like Sweden or Australia! Juries behavior is shameful here, no one else’s.

Denis
Denis
5 years ago
Reply to  Milla

Getting 7th place isn’t a flop. Not many countries has had that many top 10s in a row. And to be fair, I don’t think any Swede expected us to be top 5 this year. So we are satisfied. Next year we will be back aiming for a 7th win.
What’s sad though is people’s jealousy over us ending up in top 10. That is not what this contest is about. They could instead focus on acheiving the same result instead of obsessing over it here

Camilla
Camilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Denis

It isn’t jealousy but irritation over that undeserved spot given by the jury. Come on he sang out of tune a couple of times and stumbled over his own feet once doing his dance moves. Seriously. You have to Swedish to think the jurors bias is fair.

Denis
Denis
5 years ago
Reply to  Camilla

frustration, jealousy. All the same. People gettign angry over Sweden finding the formula for sucees while living in countries who haven’t found the formula

Anya
Anya
5 years ago
Reply to  Camilla

Sounds like jealousy to me..” irritation over that undeserved spot given by the jury”. To me he totally deserved that spot, he did a great job, sang perfectly and performed it really well. You can never say someone does not deserve a spot, if they qualify they do deserve it. If we talk undeserved spots it should be the directly qualified songs, sure they pay more, but tell them to pay less then and get them to qualify like everyone else then!

Jack Ripper
Jack Ripper
5 years ago
Reply to  Milla

Milla i agree! They are horrible, when for example Swedens Benjamin reacted to some songs he got more hate than all the worst serial killers in modern times, that is what you get for unintentionally anger your typical ESC butthurt fan service…

Alex
Alex
5 years ago

FIK is outdated and will never pick a song that is mainstream and that Europe will vote for to WIN. NOBODY voted for Eugent, only the Albanian voters. FIK songs will never get those european televoters. Their too old school and non commercial. Just looking at history, Half of the time never in the finals and if in the finals noboday votes for them.

allexo
allexo
5 years ago

My 10 Crimes of Eurovision 2018 (IN RANDOM ORDER)
SuRie’s stage invasion
Ireland qualifying (they’ve had better songs this decade like Heartbeat or Playing with Numbers)
Norway qualifying and winning Semi Final 2
France not coming Top 5 but coming 13th
Belgium, Croatia, Greece, Malta and Latvia not qualifying
The jury vote
The televote
Semi Final 1 ( It was THE strongest semi in ESC history)
Finland coming 25th
Portugal coming LAST

Blair
Blair
5 years ago
Reply to  allexo

You are so right in parts about France and Portugal. My two favourites!

Rhy
Rhy
5 years ago
Reply to  allexo

Semi-final 1 was a killer one for my nerves, EBU should change the allocation ways and save good songs somehow.

TheDrMistery
TheDrMistery
5 years ago
Reply to  allexo

Did Alexander Rybak set the record for the lowest place in the final of any semi-final winner?

Kris
Kris
5 years ago
Reply to  TheDrMistery

He did! I don’t know if your question was a rhetorical one.

Nat
Nat
5 years ago
Reply to  allexo

I agree with most of it, except Belgium and Greece. They did have good songs, but their stagings were so boring! But croatia should really be in the final (in stead of Serbia – too bad Croatia was in the SF1)
I still dont get it Finland came only 25th place. I know that Saara’s song is not everyone’s cup of tea, but the fact that this song failed with jury is beyond me. Finland deserved higher rank than 25th!

Lydia
Lydia
5 years ago

I agree only with the public votes! Juries are messing everything up! Sweden was bad, I could understand if the juries supported Estonia and I would be happy but now I am just mad!!!

Kris
Kris
5 years ago

Riddle me this:
Jury from Cyprus gave 12 points to Israel in the semi

Jury from Cyprus gave 0 points to Israel in the final??

This shows how impartial the jurors are!!

esc1234
esc1234
5 years ago
Reply to  Kris

Thats an answer to anyone who praises the juries. They are not impartial.

Alex
Alex
5 years ago
Reply to  Kris

Judges can change their opinion.

esc1234
esc1234
5 years ago
Reply to  Alex

maybe they had their period….

Markus
Markus
5 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Not to that degree. It looks like Russia giving points in ice skating.

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Markus

The televotes in diaspora countries vote for the same the last 10 years so its better that you can change your vote i think

Jo.
Jo.
5 years ago
Reply to  Kris

That’s just beyond the bones…

Sara
Sara
5 years ago
Reply to  Jo.

Juries vote for quality. Televoters vote for show

Melina
Melina
5 years ago
Reply to  Sara

“Juries vote for quality” – definitely NOT, based on their votes in this contest!

Markus
Markus
5 years ago
Reply to  Kris

Perhaps they looked at the odds.

Loica
Loica
5 years ago
Reply to  Kris

As the same from Israel .Israel given ZERO points to Cyprus entry

Kris
Kris
5 years ago
Reply to  Loica

Israeli jury gave 0 to Cyprus even in the semi. That’s when the main contender to their win were Czech Republic and Estonia and not Cyprus. They maintained their votes in the final unlike the Cypriot jury .

Susan
Susan
5 years ago
Reply to  Kris

Are you serious :O This explains a lot. Juries need to go, let the people choose their favourites, after all we are the ones, who supports artists we like even after Eurovision. Juries are shady and they clearly doesn’t choose their favourite performances, but the ones, who EBU told them to give points. I am disappointed, what ESC has been come to.

Yor
Yor
5 years ago

I pray that next year Israel will not have Bjorkman as a contest producer. Thats not funny anymore, the juries almost put first the song and the public almost last. Thats a serious problem, and someone could argue that Sweden has way too much influence on the contest…

Laura
Laura
5 years ago
Reply to  Yor

Björkman is Björkman and Sweden is Sweden, stop blaming sweden for a bad contest!

Markus
Markus
5 years ago
Reply to  Laura

But Sweden put him in his position. So yes Sweden is to blame for ruining the contest. If was only a one timer ok. But it has been going on for years and we a rather tired from your help.

Denis
Denis
5 years ago
Reply to  Markus

Well maybe if those countries had advanced technology and money instead of asking Sweden to bail them out we wouldn’t have Björkman there. But they don’t so now you deal with Björkman being everywhere

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Markus

You know Portugal asked him right? Should he call you so he can do the running order after your taste? Jesus. He dont even compete. Get over it

Simon
Simon
5 years ago
Reply to  Yor

You are so stupid i must say. he is one of the best on his job and he happens to be a swede. Do you know him? have he done anything to you? If he was from your country he would be a GOD to you and you know it. Its just Sweden that bothers you. Get over it.

Shalene
Shalene
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

I am sorry, but if there would be any other country, who would be treated like Sweden and you guys not, you would also go after that one country, who is praised. Just think how would you feel if you’re country sends good songs, but gets bad running order year after year and then there is this one country, who gets the best running orders and also results from juries. Nobody can go after juries.