Entries for the UK’s Eurovision: You Decide closed on Friday and already the rejection letters are being sent. Among those getting a “no thanks” is Norwegian songwriter and producer JOWST. And he’s not happy about it.

When entries for Eurovision: You Decide opened last month, JOWST was very public about his intention to enter. At the time he wrote, “I decided I wanted to try to help the UK win Eurovision this time (not that I have ever won before) …UK has some of the best artists and songwriters in the world, but they don’t take part in this. If they could change that, they would change Eurovision.”

Now it appears that the “Grab the Moment” hitmaker entered three new songs in the UK’s song selection. And all three were rejected.

JOWST wasn’t happy about this and expressed his feelings on social media. He wrote, “#UKxJOWST IS OFFICIALLY DEAD 💀 they didn’t want any of my songs. Good luck 🇬🇧”

But he wasn’t done with just that. He went on to have a bit of a rant, saying “They actually think that my 3 best songs/demos are worse than ALL the songs they will have in their national final.”

JOWST’s fans were largely in support of his songwriting efforts, with many suggesting that he submit his songs to the broadcasters of countries such as France, Ireland, Spain, the Netherlands and Montenegro.

It’s not known whether JOWST entered his songs a part of the public song submission process or whether he was one of the songwriters directly invited by the BBC.

While the BBC does run a public song submission, in the past, most of its entries have come from the broadcaster’s team directly liaising with songwriters and singers. The public submissions are assessed by members of the UK OGAE fan network, who select a shortlist for the BBC to consider.

Last month we spoke to JOWST about his UK bid and he was full of enthusiasm. He told us, “The reason I chose the UK is because of two things mainly. One is that they have the biggest potential. Some of the biggest and best artists and songwriters are from the UK.”

He further elaborated that the generally poor attitude of the average Brit gives him motivation to take part. He explained, “The UK has the worst ‘attitude’ against ESC in general. You could probably say reputation. So I feel it’s also the biggest challenge. I want to prove to the people there that it’s not about politics, it’s just about the song/performance and the emotions.”

At the time, he also revealed that fellow Scandinavian Eurovision acts Norma John and Mørland had helped him with one demo for the BBC. He said that some of the songs were “sounding like JOWST, others aren’t”.

The BBC is expected to announce the selected competing acts for Eurovision: You Decide early next year.

What do you think? Was the UK wise to reject JOWST’s demos? Should he submit them to another country? Share your thoughts below!

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Vladimir P.
Vladimir P.
5 years ago

BBC doesn’t really want United Kingdom to win. That is obvious from their halfhearted efforts.

Dual Lipper
Dual Lipper
5 years ago

Brexit never dies

Nikko
Nikko
5 years ago

Why he even tried for the UK? As if the UK is the Mecca of success at Eurovision. I mean it is clear that he faces more competition there. It wouldve been easier for him to try it f.ex. in Iceland or maybe he can bring San Marino back for next year?

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Nikko

You know the UK has won 5 times and finished second 15 times? Hardly a failure of a country.

Purple Mask
Purple Mask
5 years ago

JOWST will bounce back, no worries. Probably better off away from the UK anyhow, given the politics right now.

Briekimchi
Briekimchi
5 years ago

Hopefully, he releases his demos at the same time as the UK reveals the (probably) poor selection of songs in the national final this year.

JOWST
JOWST
5 years ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

Oh, fantastic idea! When is that??

Jack
Jack
5 years ago

JOWST are no major loss, it’s not as if they’re known in UK outside the ESC fandom. I really liked “Grab the Moment” but it’s hard to follow up a Top 10 finish(regardless where the song finished) maybe BBC are focusing on more domestic home written songs for 2019 as internationally produced songs in recent years aren’t cutting the trick, despite how excellent “Never Give Up on You” was(co-written by Emmelie de Forest, an ESC winner this decade ofc) tbh I’d rather for UK to go back to internal selections than sticking with a 6 song national final where the… Read more »

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Jack

I think it has more to do with the fact that the BBC sinks so much money into the writing camps that they’d want to use those songs rather than the songs submitted through the public entrance.

Luke A
Luke A
5 years ago

Only if BBC could take note of what Wales is doing in JESC and send a song in another of our language and take a break from singing in English, let the true British Eurovision fans decide

Joe
Joe
5 years ago

I hate this British Eurofan cycle of “we’re going to come last again cuz Europe hates us” and stuff like that. Stop being Debbie Downers. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the new HoD is gonna turn the UK into a Bulgaria or a France or something like that. I can dream, can’t I?

It's the BBC's fault, not the UK's
It's the BBC's fault, not the UK's
5 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Totally agree. As JOWST was rejected, they automatically assume another 24th place. Yes, I can see why they think that but at the end of the day, let’s just wait and see what the songs are like first. Hopefully, we’ll have some decent songs!

Mark
Mark
5 years ago

I think it’s because they’re using the same process as previous years which didn’t produce any results. So when we hear that a talented song writer has been rejected we assume the same result as previous years.

James
James
5 years ago

As a Scandinavian, Lila probably thinks that non-British should not be in a competition like Eurovision: You Decide, as it’s denying the British a right to compete in their home, so she doesn’t think JOWST should return. He is not good live anyways (since he’s not a singer), and Brits will probably never vote for him to win. So she probably thinks he should try representing Norway as he’s such a star there and very clearly could win.

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  James

Greta Salome is Icelandic and they used her song in You Decide. Only difference is that she was apart of their song writing camp.

GRAHAM
GRAHAM
5 years ago

A lot of people may not know, but in 1984 the BBC rejected Jim Diamond’s “I should have known better”, which became a big hit.

It’s the BBC’s fault, not the UK’s
It’s the BBC’s fault, not the UK’s
5 years ago

On the BBC website, it says songwriters must only submit 1 song, whereas he submitted 3. Nevertheless, people shouldn’t be saying stuff such as “that’s us screwed for another year then”, it might seem like it but you wouldn’t know if you haven’t heard the songs.

GRAHAM
GRAHAM
5 years ago

They could have given him the chance to withdraw two of them

It’s the BBC’s fault, not the UK’s
It’s the BBC’s fault, not the UK’s
5 years ago
Reply to  GRAHAM

The BBC are strict on terms and conditions. JOWST didn’t follow them obviously

Matt
Matt
5 years ago

This probably just proves he was approached by the BBC and it wasn’t a public submission?

Mark
Mark
5 years ago

People are upset because the one time they’ve known a talented songwriter with a unique sound was interested in BBC Eurovision he gets rejected and all we’re left with is the same method of song selection as last year. Which didn’t produce any results and saw Austria win the jury vote with a song the BBC rejected.

Denis
Denis
5 years ago

Even if we don’t know the selected songs it is a fair bet to say UK will end up somewhere between 20th-25th place, as usual. That said, there isn’t any guarantee JOWST songs would have faired much better either. Just because they ended up top 10 once doesn’t mean UK would end up top 10 with them

Azuro
Azuro
5 years ago
Reply to  Denis

It doesn’t matter what the UK sends we will end up 20 – 25th as usual. Even Bonnie Tyler couldn’t get the Europeans to put aside the jealousy towards the UK

It's the BBC's fault, not the UK's
It's the BBC's fault, not the UK's
5 years ago
Reply to  Azuro

What jealously. I’m fed up with the crap I hear come out of people from my country, stuff such as “no one likes us” or “even if we sent Ed Sheeran, we’d still come last”. Bonnie Tyler was terrible live, but due to her fame, she ended up as 19th. Overrated, as if that had been an unknown singer, it would’ve been in the bottom 2 hands down!

James
James
5 years ago
Reply to  Azuro

Didn’t Bonnie placed 19th?

Onetimeuser
Onetimeuser
5 years ago
Reply to  James

Yes, she did placed (sic) 19th

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Denis

I’d be happy for You Decide to have a more eclectic mix of songs in 2019.

Liam Lindsay
Liam Lindsay
5 years ago

The BBC rejected JOWST. Red flag sign…. They DO NOT take it seriously.!!!

HEBBUZZ
HEBBUZZ
5 years ago

How can we comment whether BBC was right in turning down JOWST s songs if 1. We haven’t heard the rejects 2. Haven’t heard the qualified. 3. Don’t know anything about it after all (like what BBC was looking for or what JOWST wanted. As for now I JOWST comes across like a juvenile loser after ranting. Not very adult like.

Eastman
Eastman
5 years ago

He obviously sent three songs of the same calibre as “Talk to the Hand”.

Kris
Kris
5 years ago
Reply to  Eastman

I thought Talk to the hand was not his song? Was it?

Eastman
Eastman
5 years ago
Reply to  Kris

He is credited as songwriter under his real name, Joakim With Steen.

Kris
Kris
5 years ago
Reply to  Eastman

Oh! Didn’t know that! Thanks for the info
Didn’t really like the song, didn’t hate it either

But I have great faith in Morland’s abilities as a songwriter! If BBC rejected his work, I’m hoping they have something good up their sleeves

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Eastman

And yet that song was better than all six songs in You Decide.

Campbell Grace
Campbell Grace
5 years ago

A lot of people are forgetting that Guy Freeman and Helen Riddell (former UK HoD) have resigned and that a new team has taken over. I am intrigued to see what songs come out of this year’s NF.

Jack
Jack
5 years ago
Reply to  Campbell Grace

Just hope OGAE have smaller or no involvement picking the shortlisted songs this year

Mr. Vanilla Bean
Mr. Vanilla Bean
5 years ago

Don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll have another brilliant track like “Still in love with you”.
Despite the BBC’s track record speaking 100% against that, it is still possible that they actually have better stuff than the songs Jowst was offering. I do not like artists being so vocal about something they aren’t in yet. It looks needy to me.

It's the BBC's fault, not the UK's
It's the BBC's fault, not the UK's
5 years ago

If the BBC would be that stupid to send something like Electro Velvet again, British fans should start a riot like seriously. Only 3 top 15 finishes in the last 10 years, I just hope they’ve finally got it right next year!

Fatima
Fatima
5 years ago

I am inclined to agree except that I really enjoyed this year’s entry, and also Joe & Jake. I thought they were going to do really well, but they didn’t.

defne
defne
5 years ago

No matter how many good songs will be in You Decide, UK will vote the most kitch one just because “it sounds like a song for Eurovision”. They need a jury that doesn’t care about what was successful in the past.

James
James
5 years ago
Reply to  defne

What kitsch* song have been in You Decide since the selection started in 2016?

I actually don’t know what the word means but I assume it means “campy”?

mad-professor
mad-professor
5 years ago
Reply to  James

None. The closest to kitsch was Dulcima, and even that is miles away.

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  mad-professor

Storm was beyond Kitsch

Erasmus
Erasmus
5 years ago

I’m not surprised, tbh I’m not a huge fan of JOWST and I strangely prefer Talk to the Hand to GTM. I found songs of that production kind of generic even though they aren’t. And I have high hopes for UK this year. But it’s possible that they had better songs than these that were selected

Someone
Someone
5 years ago

What about Tamar Karelian?

José
José
5 years ago
Reply to  Someone

If they rejected JOWST, of course there’s no chance for Tamar. JOWST makes better songs than Tamar.

cesars salad
cesars salad
5 years ago

I hope we see Jowst in Norsk MGP. This show is miles ahead of You Decide and so is he.

Hebbuzz
Hebbuzz
5 years ago
Reply to  cesars salad

Obviously he is not in MGP, he would have twittered it.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
5 years ago
Reply to  Hebbuzz

When’s the deadline to submit songs for MGP?

cesars salad
cesars salad
5 years ago

BBC hates Eurovision and wants to ridicule it by rubbish songs. UK should be forced to go through semifinals, and we would never see them again ever unless they finally send a good song.

I honestl believe Jowst had great songs and BBC ran scared of winning with them.

Josh
Josh
5 years ago
Reply to  cesars salad

Haha. Don’t be so silly. And while I do agree that the big 5 should go through the semi finals (even though their support financially is under estimated) I think we need to move on from the UK being negative about Eurovision. The BBC has engaged the public now more than ever. This is just a case of a songwriter being sour about their songs not being selected. Next!

Idan Cohen
Idan Cohen
5 years ago
Reply to  Josh

Sorry guys, but when you send a 90’s song like “storms” , you can’t say “we love Eurovision” afterwards.

the UK is the next global music scene after the US, there is no reason for you guys to send such noncompetitive materiels every year.

Jack
Jack
5 years ago
Reply to  cesars salad

The Big 5 is never going away, get over it! UK had a brilliant song in 2017 but got screwed over by little televoters

Regina Phalange
Regina Phalange
5 years ago

I mean, he’s right. I obviously didn’t hear his submissions but UK is used to rejecting songs that have more potential than the ones they pick for whatever reason. “Nobody but You” was better than all You Decide 2018 songs.

James
James
5 years ago

Obviously, Cesar helped make “Nobody But You” be what it is.

mad-professor
mad-professor
5 years ago

Okay. But Nobody But You was never submitted to the BBC as both they and the team behind the London Eurovision Party have said.

Roelof Meesters
Roelof Meesters
5 years ago

I always wonder what’s going on in the minds of the people that decide this, the Swedish rejected ‘Higher Ground’ which got a better televote result than their actual entry, but they DID select a song about pie and that song from Kamferdrops. And the BBC also rejected Nobody but You if I’m right, so idk if they made a wrong decision again. The UK hopefully remembers that JOWST finished tenth, a place the UK dreams of getting.

Jo.
Jo.
5 years ago

More like “Talk to the Hand”, my guess…

Campbell Grace
Campbell Grace
5 years ago

In all fairness SVT argue that Melfest is about showcasing diversity. Still strange though, I’d consider Higher Ground to be a diverse entry.

James
James
5 years ago
Reply to  Campbell Grace

The screening process for songs trying to enter Melfest is not exactly a walk in the park.

Eastman
Eastman
5 years ago
Reply to  Campbell Grace

I agree. The Swedish cosplay Viking community is grossly underrepresented at Mello.

Briekimchi
Briekimchi
5 years ago

Fair enough but Jowst also produced a great song with Kristian Kostov.
Find it hard to believe that his entries were poor enough to get rejected at this stage but we’ll see.

Campbell Grace
Campbell Grace
5 years ago

I’m surprised they rejected him considering the past two years we’ve had Eurovision artists involved, their songs made the cut. However, his latter tweet is very egotistical. It’s not like he won in 2017 nor even made the top 10 televote. He only did well due to the juries.

Mark
Mark
5 years ago

Remember, Austria won the jury vote with a song rejected by the BBC.

Meckie
Meckie
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

And UK Jury have Austria even 12 Points. Hillarious

Joseph
Joseph
5 years ago

Well, we screwed up again. 25th place here we come!!

Frisian esc
Frisian esc
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

You don’t even know what the songs sounded like yet.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
5 years ago
Reply to  Frisian esc

We didn’t know what last year’s songs sounded like at this point, but the end result was, as usual, a dismal formality anyway!

Has the Norsk MGP submission deadline passed yet?

James
James
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

No faith towards local talent?

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  James

Local song writers don’t care for Eurovision

Jo.
Jo.
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

Just because you don’t have a song written by Jowst? lol that might be a blessing…

Kris
Kris
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

Aren’t you being a bit optimistic? Somebody gotta take the 26th spot too?

It's the BBC's fault, not the UK's
It's the BBC's fault, not the UK's
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

God, British fans are so pessimistic. I know you have the right to, because the UK results haven’t been great recently. We haven’t heard any of the songs yet. If the songs are crap, you’re more than welcome to say “Well, we’re screwed again”

James
James
5 years ago

Either most of the songs submitted were downright bad or it was a very strong bunch that JOWST’s entries simply didn’t make the cut. Another possibility is that homegrown submissions were heavily favored over those penned fom overseas.

Either way, dude needs some humble pie. As in any selection process, the more the entries, the less likely of getting picked.

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  James

I think it would have more to do with the fact that they’d wanna use songs from their song writing camp. Remember, Austria won the jury vote with a song the BBC rejected.

James
James
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Well, the BBC also rejected a song that ended up on Romania’s Selectia Nationala in 2017 if I recall. It didn’t make it to the semis, however.

cesars salad
cesars salad
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Austria even won the UK jury vote, lmao

defne
defne
5 years ago

Stop worshiping the Brexit lovers. They will not vote a foreigner. Why people go there like flies to light only to burn themselves.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
5 years ago
Reply to  defne

And in the end the U.K. burn themselves as well, Lucie being the only recent exception, although marginally.

Azuro
Azuro
5 years ago
Reply to  defne

What are you on about, a Dane wrote the song in 2017 and we sent a Belgian this year. Saara Aalto also came 2nd on X Factor in 2016

Bartosz
Bartosz
5 years ago
Reply to  Azuro

Isn’t SuRie from UK?
The fact that she was a backing vocalist for Belgium doens’t mean that she’s from this country.

ESCFan2009 (male, 22, German)
ESCFan2009 (male, 22, German)
5 years ago
Reply to  Azuro

Right, Saara Aalto became second, but only because the UK wanted the cute British boy instead of the Finnish singer. Saara was miles better in the competition due to vocal technique, but the UK prefered the British.

Titfortatcommentor
Titfortatcommentor
5 years ago

I think you meant came , because ‘became’ sounds like we will now have to count numbers like one, Saara, three ,four…..

ESCFan2009 (male, 22, German)
ESCFan2009 (male, 22, German)
5 years ago

Haha, great! But then it would be “first, Saara, third, fourth”. You understand the difference? Second is not the same as two 😀

Titfortatcommentor
Titfortatcommentor
5 years ago

Me not understand. Second is two no?

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
5 years ago

Yes.

ESCFan2009 (male, 22, German)
ESCFan2009 (male, 22, German)
5 years ago

Difficult for me. I don’t want to discuss English grammar on wiwibloggs, but of course I want to be friendly and answer your question… So let me just say: “Two” describes a number and “second” describes a placement 🙂 1, 2, 3 is not 1st, 2nd, 3rd 😀

Azuro
Azuro
5 years ago

I voted for Saara and you’re right she was better, but Matt Terry didn’t win because he was British (he’s actually half British half Spanish) he won because of all the tween girls voting with their vaginas.

In the final Saara was actually leading until the boyband were eliminated in 3rd place on the saturday their votes then went to Matt terry and he narrowly won on the sunday

ESCFan2009 (male, 22, German)
ESCFan2009 (male, 22, German)
5 years ago
Reply to  Azuro

OMG, thank you! I have known about the “cute reason” for the teenage votes, but I have never thought about the boyband. It was Five After Midnight, I think, and yes, the girls’ votes for 5AM went to Matt Terry on Sunday! And maybe it was her song choice: It’s All So Quiet again and then Whitney Houston. Musical style and an old song was wrong! Matt sung Writings On the Wall, this got votes. Saara should have sung Bad Romance as her Song of the Series and Skyfall as her winning song!