So far, over 25 countries have provisionally confirmed for Eurovision 2022 — but the most we’ll see competing is 44. The rules of Eurovision 2022 confirm that the EBU has again capped the contest at a maximum of 44 competing countries. That’s two fewer than the previous limit of 46.

The new maximum is noted in the rules of the 2022 edition of the contest — that were inadvertently leaked earlier this week by a broadcaster. The EBU is clear about the maximum number of competitors, stating that “a maximum of 44 Members shall be allowed to participate.”

The new maximum of 44 was first introduced for the 2021 edition of the contest. Prior to that, the contest was capped at 46. The lower limit may be a consideration of keeping numbers down at a time of pandemic precautions.

While Eurovision has never had a contest with 44 competing countries, it has come close with 43. In 2008, 2011 and 2018, the contest made room for 43 contestants to battle it out for the crystal microphone.

In those years, the contest included countries are no longer regular participants now, such as Andorra, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Hungary, Montenegro, Slovakia and Turkey, along with 2021 drop-out Armenia.

Since then, the contest has only gained Italy (since 2011) and Australia (since 2015) as regular competitors, while Belarus is currently no longer a member of the EBU.

The EBU will prioritise if more than 44 acts apply

Thirty-nine acts competed in Eurovision 2021, but if there’s a sudden rush of enthusiasm for the 2022 edition of the contest and more than 44 countries want to apply, the EBU has a plan.

The rules are clear that the EBU’s Eurovision Reference Group will decide which of the 44 countries will have priority to participate. While there isn’t a definite way of deciding this, the rules say that the Reference Group may “give priority to countries/Members which have participated the most often in the previous five editions of the ESC.”

This could mean that if, for example, Hungary and Slovakia both wanted to compete, priority could be given to Hungary as they have competed four times in the past five editions.

However, with Belarus out and Armenia expected to return for 2022, if the rest of the competing countries from 2011 return next year, we could expect to have 39 countries — well short of the 44 maximum.

The smallest number of competing countries in the modern era of two semi-finals was the 37 that competed in 2014. That year, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus and Serbia dropped out.

What do you think? How many countries do you think will end up competing at Eurovision 2022? Should the EBU do more to encourage more countries to enter? Sound off in the comments section below!

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CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
14 days ago

I imagine it has already been brought up here, but I always thought they’d cap the limit at 46; 20 in the first semi (10 to go to the final), 20 in the second semi (another 10 to the final), the Big Five and (if necessary) the defending champion country.

Last edited 14 days ago by CookyMonzta
Johannes
Johannes
15 days ago

The contest has also gained Austria in 2011!

Bird Lover
Bird Lover
13 days ago
Reply to  Johannes

what are you on about lol

Caos
Caos
16 days ago

In the case they get 44 countries to participate and Australia as 45. So will they leave out Australia?

Mathew Rees
17 days ago

We will never get to 44 again.

With only 25 countries in the final because of a big 5 win, I would like to see the EBU give a direct-to-final pass to a country that has been missing for a long time like Luxembourg and pay their participation fees.

We desperately need more returning countries.

barszcz
barszcz
16 days ago
Reply to  Mathew Rees

That’s actually not a bad idea. If Australia got that free pass in 2015, then a country that’s been a big part of Eurovision history that should definitely get that as well.

Frisian esc
Frisian esc
16 days ago
Reply to  Mathew Rees

Why exactly do we desperately need returning countries? It’s fun of course but the contest is doing really well as it is. Luxembourg is among the richest countries in europe so there’s not really a need for us to give handouts. Their broadcaster simply isn’t interested in participating. SBS Australia probably also payed an extra amount to be directly among the finalists. If rtl luxembourg hasn’t been interested in competing for the last few decades I doubt they’d suddenly be willing to compete with an increased participation fee. Also if the EBU pays the full participation fee for Luxembourg to… Read more »

Last edited 16 days ago by Frisian esc
Harry
Harry
17 days ago

I agree with most comments, in that there probably won’t more than 44 participants. Armenia will likely return, although we have to wait if they participate in JESC. That’s not a given, seeing 2020. Andorra apparently won’t return, and i really don’t see a reason for Turkey to do so, as nothing really changed from the last editions. Hungary definetly won’t return, as well as Belarus (obviously) and any european microstates, as San Marino stilk isn’t doing to well in the contest. Kazahkstan probably wants to join, but it probably can’t, as the whole “associated member” thing is just an… Read more »

1998
1998
17 days ago

This is impossible. Bosnia and Herzegovina because of their debts, Slovakia because they are not interested, Hungary and Turkey because of boycot, Montenegro probably they won’t return as well, i’m not sure about Armenia though… Don’t expect them to return at all. I have a feeling that in 2022 we will have the same 39 countries we had in 2021.

Last edited 17 days ago by 1998
TomEurosong
TomEurosong
17 days ago
Reply to  1998

armenia returning to jesc already indicates that they will return to ESC 2022 and their head of delegation has been very positive about a eurovision return as well. you’ll see. armenia will return.

Rifki
Rifki
17 days ago

okay, here is the thing. EBU should: Prioritize Active/Full members and countries that are within the EBA (European Broadcasting Area). tighten the requirements for any Associate Member to participate. . and the requirements for an Associate Member to participate is that they should: broadcast Eurovision consistently on one of the membering broadcaster’s main channels (second channels like TVNZ 2 and/or China’s CCTV-3 are accepted, but streaming services are excluded) for a minimum of a certain number of consecutive years/edition (at least five will be a good number). be unanimously invited by the Reference Group (if, and only if, the first… Read more »

Stevan
17 days ago

It’s been at 44 since 2018 tho? Reading the rules of the 2021 contest you can see that it says 44

Polegend Godgarina
Polegend Godgarina
17 days ago

we’ve never had more than 43 countries in a year so i don’t think this would’ve changed much anyway but yeah they should focus on getting 44 entrants every year imo

Bella
Bella
17 days ago

Not sure why they felt the need to introduce this… (1) We’ve never hit 44, let alone 46. (2) It’s pretty clear already we won’t get anywhere near that number (with Luxembourg, Slovakia, Bosnia, etc. having already declined and Belarus being out). And (3) if there’s room for 44 then there’s room for 46. It’s just not a big difference: two 20-country-semis are totally feasible.

Teddy
Teddy
17 days ago

I think Turkey will definitely be coming back soon. The contest is way too popular in Turkey for TRT to ignore an easy ratings win for much longer.

Comments sections for Azerbaijani and Turkish entries are full to the brim of Turkish fans and if Russia can not only compete but send Manizha then I think the Turkish government will eventually view the contest as less of a threat to their “ideals”

Erik
Erik
17 days ago
Reply to  Teddy

Add to this the obvious success of Måneskin in Turkey (obvious because rock is very popular already). Rooting for TRT to make a good decision

Sabrina
Sabrina
17 days ago

I still think 46 is the ideal number. But knowing that we’ll probably have 40 countries (assuming Armenia will be back) competing in 2022 and that even if there’s a good surprise ahead of us it wouldn’t involve more than a couple of others, maybe EBU’s intentions are to put some pressure on those who think about leaving or are eternally undecided about coming back. In this case, the message would be: if you leave/don’t came back soon, you may end up losing your spot.

T.J.
T.J.
17 days ago
Reply to  Sabrina

You think Erdogan cares about that? LOL!
Turkey will not return before there is a massive change in turkush politics.

Shuma
Shuma
18 days ago

Seems odd as theres no chance of hitting 44 let alone 46.
Why the cut I wonder. Only difference means a semi final will cap out at 19 and never reach 20. 46 seems the sensible mumber. Big 5 + host, plus 20 in each semi final.

Esc43
Esc43
18 days ago

Nevertheless, I don’t see more than 41 countries participating in esc 2022 so this is not a problem.. The best scenario is seeing all of the 2021 participants back in Italy + Armenia and another one returning country (most probably Montenegro or Turkey but I don’t think so for the latter).. Belarus is already out and Hungary will really not return..

DonutLover
DonutLover
18 days ago

I would also like to point out..
The reason why Montenegro might come back is because of Hurricane this year.
Girls brought a huge hype not just in Serbia but also in the region so maybe Montenegro will find some interest to try again..

Colin
Colin
18 days ago
Reply to  DonutLover

Just like it was vice-versa in 2015. After Montenegro’s good result in 2014, Serbia returned the next year, with Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina joining in 2016. Yeah, I could see that. I also see both Dora and Beovizija 2022 being filled with folk-pop bangers trying to emulate Hurricane with not nearly as good performances. Ouch… It will be interesting! 🙂

Roo
Roo
17 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Well fairs fair for these countries. Money is tight. Montenegro paused participation because of funding, not leaving in a huff over poor results etc.

They will be back when they can.

1998
1998
17 days ago
Reply to  Colin

As a Serb, this is completely false. Serbia skipped the 2014 contest because of lack of money, but managed to return in 2015 and copeted every year since. It didn’t had to do anything with Montenegro’s result in 2014. For Bosnia and Herzegovina, they even almost skipped 2016 contest, but they managed to paricipate that year, because their participation was funded all from the entrants themselves.

Last edited 17 days ago by 1998
esc2021rotterdam
esc2021rotterdam
18 days ago

Well, no way that we’ll reach this number in 2022 or even in 2023 and onwards. We’ll probably have 40 – 42 this year (All of the 39 countries that participated this year + Armenia (which will surely return cuz they’re in Jesc2021) and maybe Montenegro and Turkey)

Last edited 18 days ago by esc2021rotterdam
DonutLover
DonutLover
18 days ago

I don’t think we will even have 42 countries competing sadly..
Armenia will come back I hope,Turkey may come back and that’s 41..
Montenegro and Hungary are big questionmarks… I would love them to come back but I think we will get one of the two at best… Since Belarus is not in anymore,It’s not gonna pass the limit even with the best scenario..
I would love Kazakhstan to be invited tho but I doubt It will happen sadly

Alvaro
Alvaro
18 days ago

The rules leaked by RÚV may explain why the link of the other article leads to no information…
Anyways, although I would like to see a lot of countries return, it doesn’t seem it would be much of them 🙁 But well, hopefully we’ll see Armenia back, maybe Turkey, and unlikely Andorra, Hungary and Montenegro (and still fits the 44, just speculating).

Alvaro
Alvaro
18 days ago
Reply to  Alvaro

Also wouldn’t mind Kazakhstan or Liechtenstein debuting, but this seems extremely unlikely.

Last edited 18 days ago by Alvaro
Darren
Darren
18 days ago

EBU should try and get all the former European participants and actual EBU back before introducing a cap.
Nothing against Australia of course, they have brought something to the contest in recent years but it’s mad to think they would be more deserving of a place on the contest compared to actual EBU countries such as Luxembourg or Slovakia.
I think the cap was fine at 46, as it made it possible for everyone in the EBU area, and the occasional invited non-EBU member too. Just my opinion.

Denis
Denis
18 days ago
Reply to  Darren

At least Australia wants to compete. Has Slovakia given any indication they want to compete? Why waste resources on someone who clearly dont want to compete?

Darren
Darren
18 days ago
Reply to  Denis

Maybe in this point in time no, but what’s to say that they won’t change their mind?
They are still paying EBU membership fees, which in turn go into producing Eurovision. So they should be able to return in the future if they do wish, considering their money as members goes towards it, while Australia being a non-member is able to participate.
My comment is also not against Australia being here or asking for them to be thrown out by the way. I’m just saying full members should get first preference.

Last edited 18 days ago by Darren
Colin
Colin
18 days ago

In a case that everybody participating in 2021 stays (which as of now seems like the most likely scenario), it would mean that no more than 5 new countries could participate. Potential candidates: Andorra Armenia Belarus (not this year, for sure) Bosnia & Herzegovina Hungary Kazakhstan Luxembourg Monaco Montenegro Slovakia Turkey Out of them, I am only 90% sure that Armenia will return. From others, the only potential interest so far came from Andorra and Turkey, and even that is under question at this point. It would be a pleasant surprise if anyone new joins in, but so far, I… Read more »

Last edited 18 days ago by Colin
ROXELANA
ROXELANA
18 days ago
Reply to  Colin

Andorra won’t return.

The only ones that could return next year besides Armenia are: Turkey, Montenegro and Hungary. Bosnia wants to return, but they can’t due to the broadcaster’s debts. If they manage to find a sponsor like they did in 2016, they could maybe participate, but it’s highly unlikely.

Last edited 18 days ago by ROXELANA
Vytautas
Vytautas
18 days ago

However, with Belarus out and Armenia expected to return for 2022, if the rest of the competing countries from 2011 return next year, we could expect to have 39 countries — well short of the 44 maximum.

ROXELANA
ROXELANA
18 days ago
Reply to  Vytautas

If only Armenia returned next year, we would have 40 countries and not 39. We already had 39 this year without Armenia and Belarus.

Vytautas
Vytautas
18 days ago
Reply to  ROXELANA

I was pointing out to, assuming, a typo as in the sentence it was referring about the returning artists for 2022, so it would be weird to say that 2011 returning countries for 2022 are…

Mark
Mark
18 days ago

There goes my hopes for a 50 country contest

Colin
Colin
18 days ago

Since there were never more than 43, I do believe that this worry is (still) theoretical. I see no point in limiting ESC when 3 semis could do just fine instead. However, if more are applied, we could be returning to sad 90s/ early 00s standards of last three places in the semi being benched or so. I would be a bit sad if it came to that, though.

Frisian esc
Frisian esc
18 days ago
Reply to  Colin

3 semis also means more expenses for the host broadcaster and delegations. The rehearsal schedule is already tight.

Colin
Colin
18 days ago
Reply to  Frisian esc

Yes, but it also means more delegations to share that cost, no? 20 dinners for 20 people cost as much as 40 dinners for 40 people for each individual. Sure, not all broadcasters have an equal amount of resources, but that’s why these “Top Spots” in the final exist for. Maybe Sweden could be added to Top 6 with a guaranteed spot in the finals? Perhaps it could be arranged with a bit less costly semis as well? Idk, just throwing ideas.

Last edited 18 days ago by Colin
Ashton
Ashton
18 days ago
Reply to  Colin

ok but can you imagine the absolute meltdown that would ensue if Sweden was given an automatic final slot

Jonas
Jonas
18 days ago
Reply to  Colin

The six automatic qualifiers exist because of their financial contribution to the EBU as a whole, not just the song contest. Also their large populations of viewers. There’s no way to justify adding Sweden.

Colin
Colin
18 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

The six automatic qualifiers exist because of their financial contribution to the EBU as a whole, not just the song contest.” I had no idea. Thanks, Jonas. 🙂

I’m just theorizing on who else could possible invest more to keep the contest going with more contestants. It’s all up to them, ofc.

Jonas
Jonas
17 days ago
Reply to  Colin

The contest already costs an obscene amount of money, there should be no need for more… if they wanted to save some of the budget, maybe they could stop some of the unnecessary off-screen stuff like elaborate ceremonies and far too many press conferences.

Jonas
Jonas
17 days ago
Reply to  Jonas

Also, I prefer semi-finals to have ten qualifiers. Three would mean just seven. If extra countries do arrive, maybe it would be better to just have bigger semi-finals – like 2004 – 2007.

Helena
Helena
18 days ago

Turkey is not going to participate under this government.

Kirby
Kirby
18 days ago

1) Kazakhstan could be invited to join. They’re associate members and have proven a high enthusiasm to bring quality entries to JESC. Their debut in ESC would be exciting. 2) A possible relegation system comeback could be feasible? I think this would be fairer, as it could involve a sort of country rotation. 3) Wasn’t Andorra supposed to be back in 2022, with Ms. Georgi leading a campaign with private funding?

Bird Lover
Bird Lover
17 days ago
Reply to  Kirby

kazakhstan? no thanks

MTD
MTD
18 days ago

2014 allegedly was very expensive in all the ways imaginable, more than 2010 and Oslo. Go figure.

Alex
Alex
18 days ago

I don’t want that many countries participating. European countries should be prioritised against those outside Europe.

John
John
18 days ago

It will be 38 countries – same countries as in 2021. Minus Belarus and Australia but plus Armenia. No other country is going to join during an on-going pandemic and a bad economy.

Ashton
Ashton
18 days ago
Reply to  John

you do know that Australia’s already confirmed a national final right

Leo
Leo
18 days ago
Reply to  John

Australia has already confirmed their participation and it’s going to use Australia Decides as their selection method.

ROXELANA
ROXELANA
18 days ago
Reply to  John

Australia has already confirmed their participation lmao

Bombalurina
Bombalurina
18 days ago

It’ll be maximum 41 with Armenia and Turkey… Both still expected to confirm their participations

Leo
Leo
18 days ago
Reply to  Bombalurina

I think Montenegro (and Armenia of course) will but not Turkey, though I would be interested to see the latter return too. Whilst I would like Hungary to return I cannot see it this year (though will the election in April lead to a return in 2023 or a longer term exit?)

Last edited 18 days ago by Leo
Bombalurina
Bombalurina
18 days ago
Reply to  Leo

Yes i agree with you , Armenia’s return is like 99% but Turkey is a mystery , because we don’t know how the meetings between Turkey and EBU went. TRT’s director changed in July (former one started the meetings and he had to leave) and we don’t know how new guy thinks about it. We’ll se in 1 month 🙂

Bird Lover
Bird Lover
17 days ago
Reply to  Bombalurina

turkey isnt coming back

Ashton
Ashton
18 days ago

I rly want kazakhstan and turkey here. mostly because all of the other non-participating ebu members either aren’t interesting in participating or don’t have the money to do so. turkey is the only one that seems plausible, and Kazakhstan has been doing so well at junior eurovision that it would be only fair to let them participate in the grown up version too, ESPECIALLY now that there will be only 25 countries in the final. also Armenia should return, but that goes without saying

vangelis vt
vangelis vt
18 days ago
Reply to  Ashton

Once again, no kazakh broadcaster is an EBU member.

ROXELANA
ROXELANA
18 days ago
Reply to  vangelis vt

We get that they aren’t but neither is SBS.

Alex
Alex
18 days ago
Reply to  ROXELANA

SBS was invited to participate due to high interest and close ties with Europe (millions of Australians have European origin).

Ashton
Ashton
18 days ago
Reply to  Alex

kazakhstan is literally right under russia. I’d say that’s close to Europe too.

MaskedKami
MaskedKami
18 days ago
Reply to  Ashton

Parts of it is also literally in Europe.

T.J.
T.J.
18 days ago
Reply to  MaskedKami

That‘s highly disputed among scientists…
Besides, according to your logic Spain is an african country because parts of it are in african soil. Also France would be elegible for the South American Football Cup because it‘s partly in South America the way you see it… Realizing now how bad an argument you‘re using?

Last edited 18 days ago by T.J.
Emdsj727g5
Emdsj727g5
17 days ago
Reply to  T.J.

French Guiana is actually a member of CONCACAF (The Confederation of North, Central America and Caribbean Association Football).

T.J.
T.J.
18 days ago
Reply to  Ashton

Buy the „central asia guidebook“ by lonely planet or any other publisher and you will discover something new to you. LOL

Ashton
Ashton
17 days ago
Reply to  T.J.

newsflash, Europe and Asia are connected and sometimes countries can be in both. buy a geography textbook and you will discover something new to you

T.J.
T.J.
17 days ago
Reply to  Ashton

You need to look up the word „central“. Maybe knowing that vocabulary will clear up your thoughts.
But hey – maybe I‘m wrong and Alaska is also close to Europe because it‘s right beside Russia. Your „logic“ kills me! ROFL

Last edited 17 days ago by T.J.
T.J.
T.J.
17 days ago
Reply to  T.J.

Not to forget China, Mongolia and North Korea! All so close to Europe! Because they‘re litterally border Russia! You‘re right! Go and invite Kim-Jong -Un, dude!

Last edited 17 days ago by T.J.
Ashton
Ashton
16 days ago
Reply to  T.J.

google how to spell the word ‘literally’ and you will discover something new to you

Vytautas
Vytautas
18 days ago
Reply to  Alex

Literally we have too many examples of Asia-based countries participating in the Eurovision already, thus, making this excuse illegitimate. Heck, we even had African countries participating! AFRICA: Morocco (purely African) ASIA: Azerbaijan (literally only Armenia and Georgia from the Caucasus are considered European while Azerbaijan in most cases is labelled as an Asian country) Cyprus (highly tied with Europe, is even a part of the EU, but geographically it is more of an Asia rather than Europe) Israel (literally an Asian country those origins are not even from Europe – prove me wrong that Jews came from Europe and not… Read more »

ROXELANA
ROXELANA
18 days ago
Reply to  Vytautas

How and why are Armenia and Georgia considered European while Azerbaijan is labelled as an Asian country?

Geographically speaking, Georgia and Azerbaijan are considered partly European cause they’ve got some territory there (even if it’s very small), while Armenia doesn’t at all.

And let’s put all the countries you’ve listed out of the contest.. Would the contest still be the same? Most of these countries bring quality entries and add their own flavour to the contest.

Last edited 18 days ago by ROXELANA
Vytautas
Vytautas
18 days ago
Reply to  ROXELANA

That’s just a fact, don’t ask me how historians, linguists, politics or whoever decide is it continent Europe, continent Asia, or continent Eurasia. Turks are not of European origin. As for the second part, you misunderstood my comment. I was saying there are too many Asian countries in Eurovision, thus, an argument about geographical place is irrelevant ant any EBU member should have every right to participate if willing. I don’t mind to see Kazakhstan in the ESC, but only if it becomes a full member. Otherwise, more countries will see EBU as a joke where you can just pretty… Read more »

Erik
Erik
17 days ago
Reply to  Vytautas

There is no European continental plate. The border between Europe and Asia is not always clear. It goes straights though countries and so on. As this discussion proves it’s also a political border. Being in Europe or in the European Union, one of its associative etc. is highly valued by some. A similar discussion could include the Americas. Is there a Central America? Or is it included in South America? Is Mexico part of North America? Etc. The writer of the geography book writes it within a context. So it’s not universal. There is cultural borders, lingual borders, geographical borders… Read more »

Vytautas
Vytautas
16 days ago
Reply to  Erik

They’re tectonic plates you’re referring to, not continental plates which are non-existent. Otherwise, we could just start discussing whereas why don’t we mention Arabian continent because of the Arabian plate or Caribbean continent because of the Caribbean plate. Anyways, irrelevant in this context to discuss about the geography as I very clearly said – I don’t care if it’s Caribbean, African or Indian entry – as long as the broadcaster is a full member of the EBU, I’m fine with whoever wants to celebrate diversity.

vangelis vt
18 days ago
Reply to  ROXELANA

?f you get it, then you also get that when there is cap of 44 out of 55 actual members (56 if you also count suspended Belarus) it makes no sense to invite third countries like Australia or Kazakhstan.

Bird Lover
Bird Lover
17 days ago
Reply to  ROXELANA

australia has literally been following the contest since the 70s lol

Ashton
Ashton
18 days ago
Reply to  vangelis vt

neither is sbs. associate members exist, you know

Hrvatska
Hrvatska
18 days ago

Montenegro in the current situation, when the Serbian Orthodox Church and the pro-Serbian coalition are undermining the country’s identity, it is almost certain that they will not return, the country is too divided, and in addition the pro-Serbian coalition is doing reshuffle on public television

ROXELANA
ROXELANA
18 days ago
Reply to  Hrvatska

How was the situation in 2019 when they still participated?

stef
stef
18 days ago
Reply to  Hrvatska

Don’t talk nonsense.. Serbia doesn’t influence Montenegro in that negative way.. If you are real Montenegrian you would know what is the truth.. Montenegro quit Eurovision due to financial reasons

Denis
Denis
18 days ago
Reply to  Hrvatska

Montenegro and Serbia have both alwys been infuenced by the Church,yet that has never stopped them from competing. So has Bulgaria, Romania and Cyprus. Cyprus is in fact the most religious country in EU, yet they always compete. And in Serbia RTS has been reshuffled number of times to fit whatever agenda Vucic currently has, yet they confirm participation..

Last edited 18 days ago by Denis
Hrvatska
Hrvatska
18 days ago
Reply to  Denis

Vucic gives authoritarianism in Serbia, and it is in Montenegro that the Serbian Orthodox Church is used to destabilize Montenegro, even a propaganda film was made in which Kremlin propaganda helped, in which it was said that there is no such thing as Montenegro

PP77
PP77
18 days ago
Reply to  Hrvatska

Why Wiwi allow this kind of comment on site. Two almost in range of hate speech comments from same author you allow in 1 hour.

Erik
Erik
17 days ago
Reply to  PP77

The discussion has little to do here. But I cannot see the hate. Only accusations

Ksenija
Ksenija
18 days ago
Reply to  Hrvatska

You are on the wrong site, go spread your nonsense elsewhere

ROXELANA
ROXELANA
18 days ago

All I want is to see Turkey and/or Kazakhstan competing on the Eurovision stage even if it’s only for one year. I have so many questions in my mind regarding Turkey’s potential return this year. Ibrahim Eren, who confirmed to be in talks with the EBU back in late June, has left his position as TRT’s manager in mid July and was replaced by Zahid Sobaci. This was because Eren’s term had expired. On the one had, this raised some questions in my mind whether the talks still continued after that; however, I assume so, since they can not simply… Read more »

Last edited 18 days ago by ROXELANA
vangelis vt
vangelis vt
18 days ago
Reply to  ROXELANA

Kazakhstan is not an EBU member. If they have a cap of 44 competing countries, they should focus on the participation of their existing members instead of inviting third parties like they did with Australia.

Stephanie
18 days ago
Reply to  vangelis vt

Kazakhstan’s broadcaster has been an EBU associate member since 2016. Thus, like Australia, they have to be invited to participate

vangelis vt
vangelis vt
18 days ago

What I want to know is, in case there are more than 44 interested countries will Australia be allowed to compete at the expense of a regular EBU member?

James
James
18 days ago
Reply to  vangelis vt

As they have discretion of inviting Australia, they will likely prioritize interested full members, especially once its current and extended invitation to Australia has lapsed

vangelis vt
vangelis vt
18 days ago
Reply to  James

That is just a guess, because nobody has specified that.

Denis
Denis
18 days ago
Reply to  vangelis vt

they got a special invite from EBU to 2023 so thy will be there

Fast Food Music Lover
Fast Food Music Lover
18 days ago

A lot of broadcasters are playing hard to get. Having a capped number of participants will make the contest sort of exclusive I think.

Frisian esc
Frisian esc
18 days ago

Yeah especially because of the ‘If we don’t participate this year we might not be able to get in in the future’ effect.

Eastman
Eastman
18 days ago

I want to see Turkey come back this year!!

Alonso
Alonso
18 days ago
Reply to  Eastman

so exciting!

hhhhurricane
hhhhurricane
18 days ago

I’m sorry but this cap seems so arbitrary. what, god-forbid a 20th song takes 3 minutes away from the sf interval act no one will remember in a week’s time?

Whisker
Whisker
18 days ago
Reply to  hhhhurricane

A performance is 3 minute long but there is much more going on, including time and administrative and technical stuff pre-show and during the show and such. Tho I’m all for more participants and shorter interval thing during the final.

Alonso
Alonso
18 days ago

Can’t believe it! So invite Kazakhstan pls!!! Can’t wait to watch Kazakhstan slay on the Eurovision stage.

hellohi
hellohi
18 days ago
Reply to  Alonso

Eh no thanks

ROXELANA
ROXELANA
18 days ago
Reply to  hellohi

Why?

Sapphire
Sapphire
18 days ago

2018 also had 43 competing countries

Jo.
Jo.
18 days ago

Should be 46, 20 countries competing in each semi.
I don’t think we will ever get +44 anyway. If more countries are interested in participating, the EBU will probably increase the fees and others won’t be able to pay it.

Last edited 18 days ago by Jo.
Sot
Sot
18 days ago

Are you SERIOUS!? Girl I swear to god if we return to the 1994-2003 system “idc-whoever-does-bad-doesn’t-compete” imma literally complain to EBU. Just put a third semi if things get out of control for God’s sake!

Denis
Denis
18 days ago
Reply to  Sot

It’s to prevent the contest to not be to stuffed, to long. 2 90 minute shows, 1 3 + hour final show. Not just songs but interval acts, voting segments plus results have to be included. It’s either limit that or further limit the song lengths

hellohi
hellohi
18 days ago
Reply to  Denis

If anything I would have less entrants and increase song length to 3.20.

Agent 007
Agent 007
18 days ago
Reply to  Denis

The final lasts for 270 minutes, only 95 minutes of which is the songs + postcards (that’s 35% of the time). This years show was too long.

Denis
Denis
18 days ago
Reply to  Agent 007

The final was set by the Dutch to not be as long as 2019 which was longer than Avengers: Endgame. But it has to include interval acts and all. You either limit participants or limit something else..

sTommie
sTommie
18 days ago
Reply to  Denis

The 2019 final was only 15 minutes, or something like that, longer then the 2021 final.

Branko86
Branko86
17 days ago
Reply to  Denis

Simply drop Interval acts, shorter voting time, maybe again to “start voting when song 1 starts” like in 2010/11″ ? Why not having 50 countries in ESC? 22 countries in each Semi + Host + BIG FIVE??? If all countries decide to make shorter songs like Finland 2015, where is the problem?

Denis
Denis
17 days ago
Reply to  Branko86

Drop interval acts? And do what while people vote, endless interviews?
The shows are already long enough as they are, why make them even longer with more shows? You want people to sacrifice sleep over a never ending show?And how many songs in a row can you actually bear to listen to?

Bird Lover
Bird Lover
17 days ago
Reply to  Sot

complain to the EBU lool . do u think the ebu cares about your one comment?

Sot
Sot
17 days ago
Reply to  Bird Lover

That’s the neat part in complaints. Either you are heard and get an answer or you are completely ignored. Either way if a country loses its right to compete like Greece in 1999, Germany 1994, even SWEDEN, I must do what I have to to stop all that. If it doesn’t work then too bad