There’s once again controversy with Ukraine’s Eurovision selection. But thankfully it hasn’t resulted in Tvorchi being kicked to the curb.
Krut, who finished second overall behind Tvorchi in Saturday’s Vidbir selection, expressed her concern that winners Tvorchi had violated the rules during their performance of “Heart of Steel.”
As STV Detector Media reports, Krut felt the duo fell foul in two ways.
First, she claims there was a duplication of the main vocal during Tvorchi’s live performance.
Second, she says they continue to cooperate with the “Believe” distribution label, which still operates in Russia.
The organising committee has decided that her complaints are not grounds to dismiss Tvorchi as the winners.
Addressing the issue of duplicating the main vocal in the backing track, the show’s music producer Dmytro Shurov said “he does not believe that such non-compliance of the recording with the requirements of the rules” is essential for evaluating the performance and choosing Tvorchi as winners.
And what of the distribution label? Well STV Detector Media reports that “Believe” is a French company engaged in distribution in Europe and Asia.
“The distribution of finalists’ songs by this company is not a violation of the rules of the National Selection. Five out of the ten finalists of the National Selection published their competition songs through “Believe”, three more worked with them until recently.”
Thats so Ukrainian of her lol
So, Dmytro confirmed they (and HE as a music producer) deliberately violated the rules in favor of Tvorchi.
Rules for some not for others it seems.
You can’t say a different song “should” have won, there was a fair voting system in place and clearly Heart of Steel was liked more than Lullaby?
They might as well make ‘Keeping up with the Vidbir Contestants’ because there is drama every year.
Sounds like a case of sour grapes! With the war going on, they should have more important things to focus on!
It’s morbin’ time.
Ah, what would Vidbir be without drama? XD
2 years ago the lead vocal from a good song was live the problem,very thin – now it seems they haved fixed it – that is not fair!
Well, it wouldn’t be ESC without drama, right? HAHA. Whatever. Sit back and enjoy.
People chose and I don’t see the point of complaining about it. My opinion is that people are bored with sad songs, dramas and etc. They want to move more, to feel more positive and to see art also on stage, not just to hear great vocals. I think Tvorchi has made the best visual performance and has combined that with the amazing voice, and that was the perfect combination for winning.
From a certain perspective, the Ukrainian people are expressing a preference for swagger over wallowing in suffering, which I respect even if I think it’s the wrong artistic choice this time, and is maybe a positive sign on the mood there.
music is nearly always positive – do know the requiem from mozart or the reqiem from the cultmangamovie akira?
this funeral music gives me positive energie when i hear it (again and again). 🙂
ukraine has failed giving us their best song (the lovely bandura angel of course) and now they have a something similar situation like germany in 2019.
not my problem.
I agree. I think that – between all of the folk-inspired stuff canceling each other out and Tvorchi’s good spot in the running order – people were looking for something different.
Every year 2017,2019,2022,2023 i think they need to Change Something because every year is drama and its so sad that Alina and Maruv cant go to Eurovision and These two guys can go to the Esc Stage damn what
That was right not to let Maruv perform. She lives in russia now, performes there, doesn’t comment on the war and doesn’t care in general. And in my opinion, GoA were 100% better tgan Maruv.
Alina performed in russia since 2014 that was also a violation of the rules. Besides, she tried to hide that fact and lied about performing in russia. I think she does not admit it to these days.
These guys Tvorchi basically didn’t do anything. I guess Krut was just upset with finishing 2nd and wanted to hype a bit
Sooo what I’m hearing is they wanted Tvorchi to win so that’s that
I’m surprised Krut tried to do this to Tvorchi, it didn’t seem like her character.
Whilst I absolutely despise Tvorchi’s song for a million different reasons (senseless lyrics, lazily produced instrumental, subpar vocals), they won fair and square. I can’t understand why Vidbir artists don’t support the winner rather than look for ways to sabotage them.
I mean, last time someone did it they won the whole contest
That’s not what Krut was doing at all, don’t character assassinate her.
There we go again….
Oh, we almost missed on tradition. There’s no Vidbir without drama
So they admit they did break the rules but don’t care.
Whereas Alina Pash just couldn’t prove she hadn’t broken the rules.
I mean, Alina went to occupied territory through the occupying nation. It’s hard to defend that.
I still think Alina should’ve represented Ukraine though, they could’ve made an exception.
Why should they make an exception for something that’s hard to defend?
Alina admitted in one interview that happened before Vidbir that she vuseted russia and I remember she uploaded pictures from there on Instagram
Sounds like someone who wants to win at any costs.
A certified Vidbir classic. Every damn year, so funny
A lot of the contestants made slight infractions of the rules (not mentioned in this article, but is elsewhere), so TVORCHI were hardly alone here. And the producers also considered the difficult circumstances. It’s very possible that an error was made unintentionally.
IT HAS BEGUN!
NVM just read the article nothing will come of this lol
No Vidbir without drama, folks.
any bets for next year?
Someone is going to win.
I mean reading the statement, they say “such non-compliance of the recording with the requirements of the rules”, so they admit there was duplication of the main vocal? I can get her complaint over that because it is against the rules in Eurovision for sure. That said, I’m not sure how much weight that holds since the producers have to have approved the vocals and instrumentals before the show. That said, we will just have to wait until the live shows at Eurovision to see if they really made any impact on this performance
Oh BORE OFF! It’s the same crap and drama Every single year from Vidbir!
These seem like (1) reasonable issues to bring up, and (2) probably not real grounds for disqualification.
Probably doesn’t want to go through this again.
I’m not sure what Dmytro Shurov means. Did they break the rules or not?
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Well, Krut has just lost her credibility, as Kalush did in last time, but this is worse. I liked her song, but she should be ashamed of herself trying to cancel Tvorchi when they won clearly fair and square and she came 2nd! She wanted the glory, of course, the 2nd placer would do this!
I mean, the response from the committee is more “yes, but” than “no.”
I would think the distribution issue would have been sorted out well before the show, though.
She is telling the truth, nobody denies that. It’s just that the producer says that it doesn’t matter.
I agree. She’s done nothing wrong by complaining. If fake vocals are not allowed, then Tvorchi should be disqualified. I’m not so sure about the other one – unlike last year, it’s the actions of a publishing company that cause the problem, not the performers personally.
They ALL used ‘fake’ vocals though. Even at Eurovision, there are multiple examples.
The vocal problem does not matter whatsoever, because the so called ‘duplicated’ vocals clearly have effects added to them and were used as pre recorded backing vocals, which are allowed in eurovision so i would assume they would be allowed in vidbir also. Affiliation with believe also doesn’t matter because not only is it french based, but there were 8 artists total who are currently or were previously affiliated with believe, clearly meaning that if you’re going to let 50% of the competitors be actively affiliated with this distributor, then it’s clearly not in violation with the rules. These are… Read more »
The pre recorded backing vocal should have only been a thing for 2021-2022 and its disappointing that this now looks to be a permanent rule change. How was the televote unfair? there’s probably something i’m missing here but the results to me seem like they’re reasonable and realistic.
Also it wasn’t like she was close in the televote, she received 21k less votes than Tvorchi.
If Kalush wanted to win, Sam Ryder did as well. Why dont we complain about their song at Eurovision then?
Bringing up drama like Kalush last year! Of course she should, even IF it’s the truth! This is a country AT WAR! They shouldnt have such harsh rules and all the songs broke the rules ANYWAY!
Is it over yet? Were there no accusations regarding Crimea/Luhansk/Donetsk trespassing, etc? Feels fresh and a step-up to Ukraine as its selection is generally more drama-oriented.
Girl, you were second, get over it
They were 1st in the televote. She came 3rd
Vidbir can never escape drama, it seems.