Photo: Alma Bengtsson / EBU

Joost Klein’s trial in Sweden was meant to start at the beginning of June. As Swedish broadcaster SVT previously reported, police have fast-tracked the prosecution because of what authorities described as sufficient evidence and because “it is not a more serious crime.”

But that quick-fire approach isn’t sitting well with the “Europapa” singer. Speaking to Swedish tabloid Expressen, prosecutor Fredrik Jönsson from the Malmö Prosecutor’s Office confirmed that Joost is insisting police speak with witnesses who live in the Netherlands. Speaking of the delay, he said:

“It is about Joost and his defence team wanting a number of people in the Netherlands to be heard,” he said. It’s up to Jönsson to decide whether that will happen. 

“In that scenario, I need to send a request for legal assistance and that takes a certain amount of time.”

Joost Klein requests extra witnesses from The Netherlands

As you’ll recall, Joost is accused of threatening behaviour toward an EBU camerawoman who was filming him backstage. 

AVROTROS, the Dutch broadcaster, clarified the situation in a statement at the time. They wrote:

“An incident occurred after last Thursday’s performance. Against clearly made agreements, Joost was filmed when he had just gotten off stage and had to rush to the greenroom. At that moment, Joost repeatedly indicated that he did not want to be filmed. This wasn’t respected. This led to a threatening movement from Joost towards the camera. Joost did not touch the camera woman. This incident was reported, followed by an investigation by the EBU and police.”

Following his disqualification — on the day of the grand final — AVROTROS said it found the EBU’s decision to exclude him from the contest as “extremely severe and disproportionate.”

A week after Eurovision, Joost’s lawyer said that Joost denies any crime. As Sweden’s state broadcaster SVT reported:

“It was a sensitive occasion where he would not be photographed when he left the stage. He was to be met by his team but there was a photographer. He asked the person to stop filming.”

But according to Joost’s lawyer, the photographer persisted. “Then [Joost] pushed the camera away to remove it. He denies threatening this person.”

Performing in Vancouver, Canada on Monday, Joost expressed discontent with how Eurovision played out. As you can hear in the clip below, he said “F*ck Eurovision.”

 

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Jerry
Jerry
12 days ago

It seems that the director of Joost’s video for Europapa has come forward with accusations of bullying, stating that Joost is a very difficult person to work with. For me, he had a bad vibe from the start, there is just something off about him.

Kosey
Kosey
11 days ago
Reply to  Jerry

Not sure why you’ve come on here to spread lies about Joost? I’ve read the English transcript and it doesn’t seem to be anything like you have alleged in your post.

Sue Dunne
Sue Dunne
13 days ago

In many civilised countries harassment of a neurodivergent person by a photographer in the manner described would be unacceptable and potentially subject to legal penalties. Apparently Sweden is not a

Barry
Barry
12 days ago
Reply to  Sue Dunne

Are you his doctor?

Anya
Anya
12 days ago
Reply to  Sue Dunne

Indeed.

Anya
Anya
16 days ago

The ableism of some of the comments here….

Fatima
Fatima
17 days ago

I continue to be surprised by the amount of commenters here who don’t believe the victim

Salmon the sardine
Salmon the sardine
17 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

When the commenters have the same agenda as the attacker it’s not surprising.

Jojo
Jojo
16 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

The victim is Joost Klein

Barry
Barry
16 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

Based on what evidence do you think a disqualification was justified?

Anna
Anna
16 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

I believe the victim, that’s Joost.

Alex
Alex
6 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

I continue to be surprised by the stupidity of some users here. We don’t even know WHO this victim is and what actually happened. At this stage it is just rumours and some vague descriptions. Hopefully everything will be revealed in the court but the Dutch broadcaster clarified that there was no violence or physical attack.

Cassette
Cassette
17 days ago

I hope Joost wins!

Fatima
Fatima
17 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

He’s already lost, though. He broke contest rules and was disqualified. The trial won’t change that, even if it determines he hadn’t committed a criminal act.

Barry
Barry
16 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

He already won the contest by being this year’s most streamed artist. No female photographer can change that.

salomon the sardine
salomon the sardine
16 days ago
Reply to  Cassette

Instead of saying “I hope Joost wins”- I would say: I hope Joost is innocecnt.
But I guess agenda is above all.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
18 days ago

Oh and let me add once more that the mysoginy displayed in this and other threads is astounding. Like wow.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
18 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

*misogyny
GOD DAMN!

bettie
bettie
18 days ago

with Joost in the final Baby Lasagna would probably have had too little public votes to stay ahead of Israel, something the EBU wanted to avoid at all costs, the possibility to DQ him was a gift from heaven, unfortunately they underestimated Europapa’s popularity, so they still look bad

Boreal
Boreal
18 days ago

Utterly unpleasant, no talent, pure bluff

Azuro
Azuro
18 days ago

Violence against women should never be tolerated by anyone. Even if the attacker happens to agree with your stance on a conflict in the middle east.

Anna
Anna
18 days ago
Reply to  Azuro

There was no violence, so?

Fatima
Fatima
17 days ago
Reply to  Anna

But there was a threat Anna, so why don’t you care how the victim feels in all this?

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
18 days ago
Reply to  Azuro

this comment feels like it was made by an AI lol

Salmon the sardine
Salmon the sardine
17 days ago
Reply to  Azuro

Me too unless your agenda is against the j@w.

Bettie
Bettie
13 days ago
Reply to  Azuro

I think, as a woman, he would have acted the same if the photographer had been a man, this is not about violence against women, but about respecting each other’s borders and values in a work environment, they both failed. But we all make mistakes… EBU focuses on the fact she was a young, Swedish woman, to make the situation look worse, but I think that information is completely irrelevant. The question is: Why was she filming him and ignored the high tension and adrenaline of an artist coming of stage? And what can they do to avoid an incident… Read more »

Josh_mck
Josh_mck
18 days ago

Unrelated to the immediate topic… but does anyone else find his song unbearable? And his facial expressions? Or maybe it’s just me.

Barry
Barry
18 days ago
Reply to  Josh_mck

It’s the most streamed Eurovision song so I think it’s you.

Aha
Aha
18 days ago
Reply to  Josh_mck

Definitely you.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
18 days ago
Reply to  Josh_mck

Totally. The only decent thing about this cry baby bully is the mullet. Respect to the hairdresser!

Fatima
Fatima
17 days ago
Reply to  Josh_mck

And me, though the others are right, we seem to be in a minority. I suppose we should give him credit for his mastery of the word “Euro”.

esc_fl
esc_fl
18 days ago

What is this comment section lol

Patrick
Patrick
18 days ago
Reply to  esc_fl

It’s so pathetic! lol

Alex
Alex
18 days ago
Reply to  esc_fl

Hell.

Zipp
Zipp
18 days ago
Reply to  esc_fl

It’s taken over by Israeli trolls, unfortunately. It must have been paid campaign because Israeli trolls flooded all Eurovision forums and even suddenly became loud under any Polish news websites that comment on Eurovision. So it must have been a planned strategised paid farm of Israeli trolls. The fact they are so visible in any article about Joost shows that Israel is behind his DSQ

Anya
Anya
18 days ago
Reply to  Zipp

Ah. So happy someone said it.
I’ve been thinking the main troll here probably was paid.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
19 days ago

Maan – Paranoia (Official Video) (youtube.com)

keep calm and stan Maan’s new song Paranoia, written by her boyfriend Karel Gerlach (frontman of Goldband)

gives me a bit of a konstrakta quirky vibe somehow

2025 should be her year, should we participate tbh

Alex
Alex
19 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Maan wouldn’t be a bad choice for Netherlands but I’d also want to see Sevdaliza

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Magician Hans Klok wants to go to Eurovision for the Netherlands in collaboration with a vocalist. I like that idea. Unfortunately we have to boycott the ESC.

musica
musica
19 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

What a terrible song that is. Capped off by the grammatical error in the chorus. “Ik word paranoia” has to be “ik word paranoïde”. The public seems to hate it as well, since it has flopped completely.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
18 days ago
Reply to  musica

no grammatical error, done on purpose like this

i don’t care about the general trash dutch public lol (let them drool over guus meeuwis, django wagner, andre hazes jr and other clown acts)

GojoSatoru
GojoSatoru
18 days ago
Reply to  musica

Maan is overhyped anyways.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
18 days ago
Reply to  GojoSatoru

no she isn’t, and her music taste also quite good regarding esc, her fave in 2017 was the winning entry amar pelos dois

in beste zangers she did decent at that one iconic operatic song nessun dorma, which she performed for operatic pop crossover star tania kross

her personality is also really lovely, and funny too (how dumb she sometimes can be)

comes across really down to earth (despite having a decently famous tv producer father siebe de steenwinkel, director for many talk shows here)

Ellen
Ellen
19 days ago

I still don’t get why people are defending Joost. The SVT crew literally has video shots and pictures of him being violent towards that poor woman that they showed them to the police.

And Joost has to bring EXTRA witnesses – literally FRIENDS and COLLABORATORS that won’t betray him – to prove he’s not guilty.

Don’t you smell the b*llsh*t behind Joost’s defense? That dude is guilty as sin and tried to minimize his violent act towards that woman.

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

“The SVT crew literally has video shots and pictures of him being violent towards that poor woman that they showed them to the police.”

You’re making this up Ellen! The Swedish public prosecutor himself said on Dutch national television yesterday that he has not yet seen any footage and he doesn’t even know for sure if there is any.

musica
musica
19 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

What’s your obsession with this guy? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? We haven’t seen any evidence, we don’t know what the charges are, we don’t know if there are images, we don’t know if they even have a proper case. We don’t know anything. Let the process play out and reserve your judgment (although should he be acquitted we probably won’t be hearing from you again).

musica
musica
19 days ago
Reply to  musica

Ah, the zionist trolls have found these comments again and have managed to completely flip the downvote-upvote ratios 🙂 And to think that Joost has never even said anything about Israel…

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
19 days ago
Reply to  musica

yeah they are awakened from under their stones it seems as many positive posts are downvoted again and again as in the previous months. Mordor is calling.

I just watched this great vid of a beautifull outspoken young lady from Norway. I say much grace and thanks to her clear observation and message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80l5e0nuWe8

Pcp
Pcp
18 days ago
Reply to  musica

Not every discussion relates to Israel or Palestine… and btw : it’s ok

Milla
Milla
6 days ago
Reply to  musica

You can say that to the ones standing behind Joost as well.

Shino
Shino
19 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

You are so ignorant XD

FizzPunk
FizzPunk
19 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

Watch this vid from the beautyfull Nightwalker from Norway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80l5e0nuWe8

salomon the sardine
salomon the sardine
17 days ago
Reply to  Ellen
  • When H@m-@s filled themselves – the lefties didnt believe it.
  • When Israel still counted the burnt b@-dies – the lefties didnt believe it.
  • When there were actual evidences of r# ping – the lefties didnt believe it.
  • When those ter@rits ki-d@pped – the lefties didnt believe it.
  • Then the lefties said oh h@ m@s treats their h@-stages well better to die than being r@-ped I guess.
  • When Isr@el told the world there are tunnels under the hospitals – the lefties didnt believe it.

I guess there is no points of saying – when your h@-te is bigger than facts.

Ricardo
Ricardo
16 days ago

When you insist on classifying all critics of the Israeli government as “lefties”, you lose all credibility. Shows what you’re all about.

salomon the sardine
salomon the sardine
16 days ago
Reply to  Ricardo

Which point that i just metioned is “good” critic?
Why not criticized H@m-s as well (if you care so much for justice)?

Johnny
Johnny
19 days ago

Im sending love to all europeans who stand by our shared values, who wants peace and justice. As person of jewish decent i am begging everyone not too judge all of us. There is many of us who have different views on situation and are in great deal of pain , that feel hopeless and mentally drained. I express my gratitude to Ireland, Spain and Norway and everyone who is human. We are all the same and have too stand together in this dark times , we can emerge victorious. And we will win, as history teach us that love… Read more »

Thanos
Thanos
19 days ago
Reply to  Johnny

I believe we all understand what you are saying 100%. Israel is by no means the sole representator of the Jewish people like it claims in a completely fascist way.
I have tremendous respect for Jewish people who speak out against the current situation. Solidarity!

Darren
Darren
18 days ago
Reply to  Thanos

Definitely! Absolutely! Massive respect for them. It’s true courage and true belief and conviction and we must stand with them

Darren
Darren
18 days ago
Reply to  Johnny

Much love Johnny! Touching words

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
17 days ago
Reply to  Johnny

Aww thank you for this, Johnny. xo

salomon the sardine
salomon the sardine
17 days ago
Reply to  Johnny

Can you tell me what is the solution for europians/Australians who cant go by themselves- but only with police guard in Isl@-mic neiborhoods?

You can be human, care for the rigths of all human beings in the world, but what about security, the safety?

You can close your eyes, but the problem will not go away.
In 50 years from now the W@KE people will wake, but it’s gonna be too late.

ANDREW BROWN
ANDREW BROWN
19 days ago

Am i correct. The photographer in question worked for SVT and was not freelance?

zippofix
zippofix
18 days ago
Reply to  ANDREW BROWN

She worked for EBU, her nationality is unknown

Alex
Alex
6 days ago
Reply to  zippofix

No confirmation that she works for EBU. She could be a freelancer covering just the ESC week or SVT.

Anya
Anya
18 days ago
Reply to  ANDREW BROWN

Never heard a word about her working for SVT and I read Swedish news.

Kosey
Kosey
19 days ago

I really hope Joost is ok and is surrounded by people who love and care for him.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
19 days ago

alright sorry but understand it from my shoes, as a dutchman, who only started to like our entries recently first listen i didn’t like europapa, but it grew on me a lot weeks before the contest so yeah i am pissed off, as for the grand final, i didn’t watch first 30 minutes of it, out of protest but in the end my mom convinced me to watch, i did vote though, for Croatia (yes i felt like i needed to do that, to make up for that one nasty thing i said on here towards Baby Lasagna, and i… Read more »

Herr_SW5
Herr_SW5
18 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Who cares whether Eden is pretty? She’s a dead-eyed, mean-spirited psychopath.

Fatima
Fatima
19 days ago

My overriding feeling is that the very last thing the EBU would have wanted to do on that Saturday morning is disqualify any finalist, let along a fan favourite. Enough things were going wrong already. So my conclusion is that there must be compelling evidence of the degree of his “bad manners”, as even AVROTROS put it.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
19 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

Joost didn’t do anything wrong

whatever evidence they have, they can shove up Osterdahl’s smug arse for all i care

we get dq’d but kicking out Israel, nope

now we dutch know how Russia felt like

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

I have some experience in criminal law and I can tell you that “gut feeling” has never been enough evidence for a conviction. I like to stick to the facts and what we heard from the Malmö police so far is that he did not physically touch anything or anyone and did not make any verbal threats. The threat would have been a movement, “a lunge towards the camera”. Is that enough for a conviction? Is that enough to justify disqualification? Are there excuses that would justify his conduct? I cannot draw that conclusion based on the facts currently available… Read more »

Fatima
Fatima
19 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

But even if he’s not convicted, Seddik that won’t change the fact that the EBU thought he broke contest rules. That must have had their reasons for doing that.

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

Because it is a such an impactful decision, the EBU will surely have done its due diligence… I’m not going along with that. I’ve seen too many deplorabele situations within large private and public organizations. Mistakes that ruin people’s lifes are made on a daily basis. And more and more information has emerged recently that indicates that the EBU is a deeply flawed organization. It cannot be ruled out that they made a decision based on incorrect or incomplete information.

Fatima
Fatima
18 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

I tend to go along with victims, Seddik, especially those who were just doing their jobs.

Seddik
Seddik
18 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

Joost is a victim. The Dutch delegation is a victim. The people of The Netherlands are victims. Eurovision fans around the world are victims.

Fatima
Fatima
17 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

And the woman who felt so threatened she called the police? Is she anywhere on your list?

Barry
Barry
16 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

Performing is not a job?

Anya
Anya
18 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

My “gut feeling” is that Netherlands wants to know much harder than Sweden.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
18 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

This.
But all the apologists and/or conspiracy theorists just loove to disagree. Ridiculous.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
19 days ago

some advice to North Macedonia, Montenegro, Romania don’t return to this vile contest if you got common sense

the less participating countries the better, let the ebu feel that karma of this contest soon getting ended hopefully

2025 prediction

  1. United Kingdom
  2. Israel
  3. Switzerland
  4. Sweden
  5. Germany

countries who can do no wrong in the eyes of the corrupt money lovers of the ebu

Fatima
Fatima
19 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Didn’t you say the same thing last year? And yet you continue to follow the contest more closely than all of us.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
19 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

this was the last year of me following the contest, but i’m gonna ruin it for all of you as well

Israel can never nq, Switzerland never flops, Sweden never nqs, Germany never flops, UK never flops

all that pathetic fascist corruption YUK

Ellen
Ellen
19 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Wow haha. Where’s the ‘love always wins’ spirit from Joost ? Loser.

Just quit Eurovision. It doesn’t need weirdos like you thinking they’re the center of the world. Byyyye.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
19 days ago

good Joost, destroy the EBU, who cares about this corrupt fascist contest, only privileged rich swiss non binary scum can win these days

Tino
Tino
19 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Time to take your pills and go to bed sir.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
19 days ago
Reply to  Tino

i hope Kosovo also go through a hell in their debut eurovision year LOL, that fake country deserves that karma

FunQ
FunQ
17 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

You just prove the Nth time how racist, and ignorant you are. You shouls be expelled from this site.

FunQ
FunQ
17 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

The only scum here is you. You feel right to insult a winner, with a non conformant sexuality, to state the rights of your Dutch contestant. For me, it’s for bad fans like you that Joost Klein doesn’t deserve to be readmitted to the contest. Fangirling a national contestant doesn’t require to insult a winner and call them (Nemo, I mean) scum.

musica
musica
19 days ago

A bit of clarification: so far we haven’t seen any evidence. We don’t know what the charges are, we don’t know if there’s even going to be a trial, and if there will be one the police have already indicated that at the very worst Joost could be fined. Anything else, including his “toxic masculinity”, his “entitlement”, and his “anger management issues” are purely figments of your own imagination. Hopefully this helps.

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
19 days ago
Reply to  musica

Or observation.

musica
musica
19 days ago

What do you mean, observation? You see him being angry on stage. He’s a very intense performer, that’s true. If you want to hold that against him you might as well throw every heavy metal band in jail for the same reason.

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
19 days ago
Reply to  musica

I’ve seen his behavior at the press conference for Israel and he has all but admitted that he was agressive at that confrontation (doesn’t mean it’s criminal but it speaks poorly of his charactor). Add to that the fact that he still blames everyone else and has not shown any sign of remorse and now apparently also yells profanities at his concerts. That is not the behavoir of a kind man, no matter how slighted or right he may feel. If this was intended to make the contest less political, he failed spectacularly. I’d be appalled if he represented my… Read more »

musica
musica
19 days ago

Oh jeez, it’s about Israel again. Everything is about Israel. If you only watch the press conference, and ignore the deliberate taunting and bullying of Joost and other contestants that the Israeli delegation had been doing all week, you’d maybe have a point.

Fatima
Fatima
19 days ago
Reply to  musica

Well no musica, because his annoyance in saying “why not” was addressed to press conference adjudicator, not the Israeli delegation. We saw for ourselves how boorishly he behaved towards people who were just doing their job. After seeing that I was not surprised when things escalated.

musica
musica
19 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

When you look at him during Eden’s answer, it’s pretty clear where his annoyance was directed. You won’t hear me say that Joost is a mr. Nice Guy, he’s definitely a character, but that’s not a reason to convict someone.

Fatima
Fatima
19 days ago
Reply to  musica

But even if he’s not convicted musica, that doesn’t mean it wasn’t right to disqualify him from the contest. He broke the contest’s rules (the EBU said) and that’s what matters the most.

GojoSatoru
GojoSatoru
18 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

Except there’s no evidence he broke any rules.

Fatima
Fatima
17 days ago
Reply to  GojoSatoru

How do you know there is no evidence Gojo? Are you working on the case?

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
19 days ago
Reply to  musica

No. It’s about Joost and his actual behavoir. I’m neither pro or con Israel. But I am pro decent behavoir. Bullying from either side is hearsay and both parties claim it as you well know. Only the bullying we actually witnessed is substatiated. At the press conference. And that Joost admitted to at the confontation. For all I know Eden is also a complete a-hole. Thing is, even if she is, it doesn’t matter. I have to judge every person on what they show me – and only Joost has behaved like an angry 5-year old in this. If you… Read more »

musica
musica
19 days ago

It’s not hearsay since there’s actual footage of it. Multiple instances. And yes, Joost was clearly pis.sed off during that press conference, that much is clear. We can all agree on that. As for what this says about his person and his entire psychological makeup and why this makes him a priori guilty of hitting that camera woman, we can agree to disagree…

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
19 days ago
Reply to  musica

Let’s.

Seddik
Seddik
17 days ago
Reply to  musica

It has not yet been confirmed that there is footage of the incident. It has however been confirmed by the Malmö police that Joost did not physically touch anyone. So you are either completely misinformed or another ordinary anti-Joost troll. Which is it?

Ellen
Ellen
19 days ago

Criminal. He’s not even able to face his toxic masculinity and he blames it on Eurovision. Shame on you. Hopefully your parents aren’t here to see the tr4sh you’ve become.

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

Don’t be a douche Ellen.

Ellen
Ellen
19 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

I just act like Joost.

MaggieMayhem
MaggieMayhem
19 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

Wow, you’re an awful person.

Alex
Alex
19 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

You must feel so proud to comment this.

Anya
Anya
18 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

Wow.
Well, if that was my kid, I’d be so frikking proud.

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
19 days ago

The more I hear from Joost both during and post Eurovision, the more I am starting to believe the rumors that he has some anger management problems. I also can clearly see that he has forgotten that he is supposed to represent his country, not just himself. No dignity or class in sight anywhere. His behaviour is very distateful (during press conferences and later also public comments). Even if we were to assume that he is in the right (and his currennt behavoir makes me doubt that), there are better ways to stand up for yourself. He seems very entitled… Read more »

Ellen
Ellen
19 days ago

100% agree. To that, I’ll add that I’m mad he was disqualified because if he still participated in the Grand final, he could have brung the victory to Croatia by taking votes from Switzerland

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago

Where did you hear those rumors about supposed anger management issues? Because I’ve been following the guy for years now and have never heard about such thing. On the contrary actually, most people who met him say he’s really sweet and chill.

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
19 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

Just unsubstantiated behind the scenes rumbles (probably in some of the youtube lives from a couple of bloggers during and leading up to the event). I don’t know that to be a fact of course. I would speculate that the confrontation is the nexus for the rumors? What I will say is that at this point I point blank struggle to see him as a kind man. I trust my instincts with that. I feel the mask has fallen and he’s shown who he is. I’ll cheer for a Palestinian state – but not for Joost. But everyone is free… Read more »

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago

You’re entitled to your own opinion about him, of course. But the question of whether someone should be disqualified or prosecuted should be answered on more than instinct. I can only say that in all the years that he has been in the spotlights in the Netherlands and Flanders, I have never heard any complaints about him. And even if he’s a bit difficult to work with, that’s not enough reason to cancel him. He has the right to be himself. We know that he had already gone outside his comfort zone in many ways at Eurovision. The production crew… Read more »

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
18 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

Well, the police surely took it seriously on more than just intuition – and mine is based on the facts and what I see and hear.

I don’t know enough to say if the disqualification was warranted or not. I’m just saying his current behavior makes it seem more and more likely that it was.

Also, if “being himself” means he’s being hostile to other people… then no, he should absolutely not be allowed to “be himself”.

Seddik
Seddik
18 days ago

The fact that so many people here seem to think that the mere presence of the police says enough is laughable. As I have said before, there are people who call the police for the wrong topping on their pizza. The police have no opinion in this matter. They conduct objective investigations following a report, or at least that is what they are supposed to do. The fact that witnesses on the Dutch side were not heard is shoddy. It is up to the public prosecutor to prosecute and the criminal court to find guilty. Not the police, not the… Read more »

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
17 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

Oh, I thought I had a right to my opinion, that you were all about people being allowed to “be themselves”… remember? Or perhaps that only applies to Joost? Look. The police don’t persue things if they are clearly firvolous, be real. The EBU wouldn’t pursue this if it did not violate their own rules AND not support it being reported to the police if they did not think it was potentially illegal. You think they wanted this? Thinking otherwise seems very conspiracy theory’ish. Like “the system” and the EBU are out to get him. I mean, really… If it… Read more »

Seddik
Seddik
17 days ago

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but opinions are not facts. I’ve been trying to teach you something about truth-finding and due process. I have a legal mind, like fact-based arguments and have little patience for gut feelings, based on nothing more than a blind hatred for Joost. I am done with you.

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
17 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

Believe what you want. I stated my case clearly and frankly… I don’t need you to agree. I can’t change the mind of the willfully blind and I won’t bother,
It ain’t worth the time.

Rich
Rich
19 days ago

The only distasteful thing have been the EBU and Swedish hosts including Martin O. We hope to never witness this self congratulatory North Korean style contest any time soon. In that respect Joost was the perfect anti-hero to demask the real villains in this corrupted show. Waterloo came to life after 50 years. Let’s hope next time we rely on civilized law again and let people be not guilty until proven otherwise. The simple fact that they slaughtered him to hide the real villains, as this Jester had some surprise up his sleeves still, and let people like you start… Read more »

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
18 days ago
Reply to  Rich

That is truly a lot of bull not saying much in just one paragraph. Sounds like you’re just flinging stuff hoping something will stick. In fact, I’m not entirely sure what you’re actually saying here besides EBU bad, Joost good.

But let me guess: You’re either a conspiracy theroist OR so heavily invested in one side of the agenda here that facts no longer matter.

Seddik
Seddik
18 days ago

You’re the one whose whole argument is based on the adage “where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”

Leif Christensen
Leif Christensen
17 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

Partially, yes. But certainly not wholly. You are making your own assumptions here as well. And I understand that. I just came to a different conclusion than you. The data is incomplete at this point, that leaves speculation to fill the gaps for now. Please note that I never said I knew exactly what went on. Based on what I do know, I have however come to a conclusion that may or may not be changed once we hopefully know more. Also, you do understand why that became an adage in the first place, right? It’s because more often than… Read more »

Sally
Sally
19 days ago

If he is supposed to be tried in June – what is the actual charge(s)?

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago
Reply to  Sally

None so far. But from what I gather it’s going to be an unlawful threat (chapter 4, section 5 of the Swedish Criminal Code). That means he must be found guilty of deliberately threatening the alleged victim with an act that is punishable by law. In this case that’d be violence against the person or her property. It is important to realize that the feelings of the alleged victim are not important in the criminal process. It is examined whether an average person would feel threatened in this situation.

Som
Som
18 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

Do you think the camera women will also be facing punishment for breaking the privacy contract?

Doris
Doris
19 days ago

The better thing to not be filmed was to not paticipate to a contest full of medias and cameras.
Someone told him this is a TV show ?

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
19 days ago
Reply to  Doris

who cares about stupid tv shows, shut your mouth doris

GojoSatoru
GojoSatoru
18 days ago
Reply to  Doris

Being filmed itself was not the problem. What was the problem was being filmed right after his performance when he was the most vulnerable. In his contract stood that no one was allowed to film him after his performance, yet people did film him.

Dida
Dida
19 days ago

“At that moment, Joost repeatedly indicated that he did not want to be filmed. ” Was he supposed to have a VIP treatment or what? All the artists were filmed by the Swedish production team. How dares he object of not to be filmed? Did he consider himself some kind of a royalty, followed by the paparazzi? This man is clearly delusional, he’s a poor mortal, a barely known singer. Now he can stay there, no one knows him or cares about him or his childish, gimmick song.

Frau Loch
Frau Loch
19 days ago
Reply to  Dida

So easy to turn that argument around. How dare the employee film somebody that indicates they dont want to be filmed? You want to make it sound like Joost is to blame without any evidence being brought forward. Why do you want to chose sides?

Fatima
Fatima
19 days ago
Reply to  Frau Loch

Recollections may vary Frau Loch. You’ve clearly chosen your side

Noel
Noel
19 days ago
Reply to  Dida

I totally agree with you thank you for say that

Shino
Shino
19 days ago
Reply to  Dida

The only one delusional here is you.. have you lived under a rock?! This guy is more populair than ever!! And i am totally here for it!

Johnny
Johnny
19 days ago

Im sorry y’all but Eurovision is the least of our worries now. We are witnessing pure evil that is trying to consume humanity

Darren
Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Johnny

#AllEyesOnRafah

Johnny
Johnny
19 days ago
Reply to  Darren

I can’t sleep, im totally helpless and sad . I can’t believe what is happening

Thanos
Thanos
19 days ago
Reply to  Johnny

I understand how you feel. Been feeling the same for some time now. And the worst thing is none of us can do anything to help and stop this madness. Donations and speaking out our mind are the best we can do and that’s infuriating

Anya
Anya
19 days ago
Reply to  Johnny

Oh. No.

WhiteSox
WhiteSox
19 days ago

Much ado about nothing.

Lenya
Lenya
19 days ago

Eurovision 2024 ? and I thought this year would be great but yeahhhh

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
19 days ago
Reply to  Lenya

we don’t care about those other stupid artists their songs, those lazy artists, how much time did everyone spend on their performances and songs, 5 minutes maybe LMAO

go cry then troll LOL

musica
musica
19 days ago

The most striking bit of news is that the Swedish prosecutor hasn’t seen any images of the incident yet. He says “I think there might be some, but I haven’t seen them”. How’s that for convincing proof to throw someone out of the competition.

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago
Reply to  musica

Just saw that interview. Amazing. 17 days since the incident and the public prosecutor goes on Dutch national television to say he thinks there might be footage, but he hasn’t seen it. What a farce.

Darren
Darren
19 days ago

F**k the EBU!

Alex
Alex
19 days ago

The 2024 saga doesn’t seem to end anytime soon!

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
19 days ago

To go from “I love you all” and “love always wins” to “f.ck Eurovision” is something.

Jeroen
Jeroen
19 days ago

And it’s all true, f the EBU

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
19 days ago
Reply to  Jeroen

I’ve nothing against Joost and his fans and I still think the Ebu didn’t take the right decision but to come with insults now I don’t think it will help the situation.

Jeroen
Jeroen
19 days ago

At this point only the resignation of the people responsible for the decision making and the disqualification of Israel will help the situation

Alex
Alex
19 days ago

Because EBU is a heartless organisation.

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago

Been a fan of Eurovision for three decades myself, but right now I’d rather see it die than continue in the way it has become. And I come across a lot of people on social media who feel exactly the same.

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
19 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

Ok I get it but would you say the same thing if Joost wasn’t disqualified and would end top 5?

Seddik
Seddik
19 days ago

Well then there is still the toxic atmosphere that the production staff and the Israeli delegation and press have created backstage. But, especially considering the aforementioned, the disqualification of Joost is the highest kind of injustice in Eurovision history.

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
19 days ago
Reply to  Seddik

It’s not the first injustice in Eurovision and won’t be the last unfortunately but this one will remain in the eurofans mind for sure because a disqualification like that just before the GF is a premiere.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
19 days ago

Joost is absolutely correct, f.ck eurovision

lazy fascist loser osterdahl, and lazy stupid israel, and lazy stupid spoiled rich kid nemo

Fatima
Fatima
19 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Yeah, Nemo was so lazy. I mean they could have at least included a tightrope, trapeze and knife-throwing in their staging. But no, all they did was sing note-perfect pop, opera and rap, spinning on a giant wobble board while perfectly connecting with both the TV and arena audience. We’ve all done that.

Fatima
Fatima
19 days ago

One imagines that this sort of language was directed at camerawoman X