Picture: Sarah Louise Bennett (EBU) / Joost Klein

This weekend Joost Klein had the crowd of Pinkpop – one of the Netherlands’ biggest pop festivals – in his grip. And not just while singing “Europapa”. A slip of the lips at the festival — coupled with the Fryslân native updating his socials — has everyone wondering whether Joost will return to Eurovision 2025 on behalf of The Netherlands.

The Netherlands has yet to formally announce its participation in the song contest in Switzerland. Usually the Benelux country is one of the first to confirm. At this point in recent years, the Dutch broadcaster AVROTROS was already receiving songs as part of their internal selection process. However, after Joost Klein became the first participant to ever be disqualified from the contest, AVROTROS is having second thoughts.

Earlier this month the broadcaster made it clear that it wants a broad and “truly independent” investigation into the most recent Eurovision — and structural changes in the way its organised. Its participation remains under “consideration” pending all of that.

Joost Klein hints at Eurovision 2025 return during Pinkpop

Joost has toured the world — from Canada to the Netherlands — since the grand final he was forced to miss. Announced as a headliner for Pinkpop, Joost took the stage in front of an excited crowd of festival-goers. During his set, he said to the public: “Why the fuck not, 2025?” That hints strongly that he wants another go at the song contest. The LED screen showed “joost klein 2025.” 

Besides performing “Europapa”, Joost also premiered “The Bird Song” – another option he had for Eurovision 2024. 

The Dutch star fuelled these rumours of a return even further on Sunday afternoon when he changed both his Instagram bio and the name of his broadcast channel from Eurovision 2024 to Eurovision 2025

Prior to being named the Dutch hope in Malmö, Joost used this same broadcast channel to promote his Eurovision bid. The channel and social media campaign were among the driving forces that gave the Eurovision 2024 star the opportunity to actually go to the song contest. 

If AVROTROS were to participate in Switzerland next year, it wouldn’t be so strange if they did select Joost. After all, in 2021, when Jeangu Macrooy had been deprived of his opportunity to go to Eurovision as a result of the pandemic, the broadcaster was one of the first to reselect their 2020 entrant.  

Do you think that Joost Klein should return at Eurovision? What kind of song would you like to see him perform in 2025? Let us know in the comments down below!

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Tony
Tony
4 days ago

Of course he should return

Milla
Milla
13 days ago

Please don’t.. don’t want more drama.

Anya
Anya
13 days ago

It’ time to remind you that Joost is not under investigation for any kind of physical attack. He is under investigation for “illegal threats”.

Nobody claims he has touched anyone.

Fatima
Fatima
5 days ago
Reply to  Anya

Thanks, and whatever he did must have been bad, because the last thing the EBU would have wanted would be to disqualify a fan favourite on the day of the contest. That didn’t help them at all.

Dida
Dida
16 days ago

Next year what other crew member he’ll be slapping?

Misha
17 days ago

Not totally against a comeback to let him properly compete, BUT is he does so, I’m afraid this could be AGAIN a pity voting (such as Ukraine 2022) and win the ESC just bc it’s him

Samira
Samira
18 days ago

Disqualification or not, he had his chance. Now pass the torch and let AVOTROS do something else again

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
18 days ago
Reply to  Samira

Froukje would be amazing at ESC i feel, she slayed so hard at this years Pinkpop

she also feels like really strong ”fandom pet” vibes

Seddik
Seddik
16 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Froukje is amazing. Now what I would like to see is Froukje + S10 + Joost at Eurovision.

Madhat
Madhat
19 days ago

I didn’t agree with his disqualification but for the love of what is good, can we just stop overhyping joke acts and start rewarding real music?

GojoSatoru
GojoSatoru
19 days ago
Reply to  Madhat

Yes, let’s stop overhyping joke acts. Good thing Joost Klein is not a joke act.

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
19 days ago
Reply to  GojoSatoru

He is what then?

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
17 days ago

Downvotes but no responses, wiwi readers will never change.

Fatima
Fatima
18 days ago
Reply to  GojoSatoru

He shouted “Euro” 93 times while someone in a bird costume pretended to play a keyboard. Not exactly Bohemian Rhapsody, was it?

GojoSatoru
GojoSatoru
17 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

Just because you don’t understand the song, doesn’t mean it’s a joke entry. Every sentence in the song has symbolic meaning behind it. Even the bird suit is symbolism.

esc_fl
esc_fl
18 days ago
Reply to  Madhat

Yes, let’s stop overhyping those joke acts! Good thing Israel’s song didn’t win.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
18 days ago
Reply to  Madhat

i myself only listen to real music honestly Joost is more like ”novelty” instead of a good quality nederpop representation of my country, Flemming or Antoon or Froukje would be better choices if we wanna go with dutch language again, otherwise english pop acts here i’d hope for Chef’Special or a even bigger name to shock everyone – Kane with the charismatic vocal dad Dinand Woesthoff to melt most housewives’s hearts, Kane are so good again with their latest release ”what if i want you now” very much a glow up like Train i think Di-Rect would also a be… Read more »

Nils
Nils
19 days ago

I’ve got no problem with AVROTROS giving Joost another shot at Eurovision, but shouldn’t they at least wait for the results of the Swedish police Investigation? Especially when they seem to be so obsessed with investigations?

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
19 days ago
Reply to  Nils

At the very least, wait for the outcome.

Samo
Samo
19 days ago
Reply to  Nils

AVROTROS is waiting. This was posted on Joost’s private account.

Fatima
Fatima
18 days ago
Reply to  Nils

Exactly, I’m dismayed by the number of people who have made up their mind anyway. And with the end of the police investigation, we’ll then be able to hear the full side of the story from SVT and the EBU.

Fast Food Music Lover
Fast Food Music Lover
20 days ago

If his trials don’t interfere with Eurovision, then sure.

Sally
Sally
20 days ago

Does anyone know if anyone else has been disqualified due to behavior or similar reasons? I know several countries have been disqualified over song content, invading neighbors (sometimes) and such – but what about singers/groups?

Kor
Kor
18 days ago
Reply to  Sally

As far as I know, nobody has been disqualified this way before. That’s why someone joked that Joost promised something never seen in Eurovision and he actually delivered

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
18 days ago
Reply to  Kor

So it means all this mess was prepared, I can’t believe it.

LawnaDellPlay
LawnaDellPlay
20 days ago

Utterly irksome

Andy
20 days ago

It’s wishful thinking. The Netherlands is going the way of Hungary in 2025. Hopefully, Norway will follow suit. At least until Öosterdahl resigns in shame.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
20 days ago
Reply to  Andy

everyone needs to be like Hungary and Turkiye honestly

Iván el Conquistador
Iván el Conquistador
20 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

The awkward moment when you realize Orban and Erdogan have a point.

Nils
Nils
19 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Well, how about you then? Everytime I visit Wiwi, I see you complaining about how dreadful, unwatchable and corrupt Eurovision supposedly had become. Maybe it’s time for you to go and touch some grass?

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
18 days ago
Reply to  Nils

no i am going to ruin eurovision for all of you as well, who cares about these attention seeking fishbreath wannabe loser artists

Nils
Nils
16 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Your mum must be very proud of you.

Piet
Piet
20 days ago

If he returns, he should sing different lyrics in the finals exposing the EBU’s incompetence. He would probably be disqualified again, but that would make him immortal!

Sally
Sally
20 days ago
Reply to  Piet

If he brings the same song with different lyrics he absolutely would be disqualified for bringing a previously released song. And he should be. If he wasn’t, what would stop acts from entering established hits and just singing them in a different language or some other change to the lyrics.

Piet
Piet
20 days ago
Reply to  Sally

Of course he shouldn’t bring the same song! He should bring a new song with very cute lyrics in the semis and then change those lyrics in the final to go all the way! Of course he will be disqualified for changing the lyrics but it would make one hell of an anti-EBU statement.

Jonny
Jonny
20 days ago
Reply to  Piet

No, it would childish behaviour.

Piet
Piet
18 days ago
Reply to  Jonny

Yep, exactly! Changing the lyrics of his new entry in the final to expose EBU incompetence would show he doesn’t give a damn about them!

Sally
Sally
19 days ago
Reply to  Piet

That stunt would get him disqualified all over again. There is a cut off date for when all revisions and changes have to be in. If you change it after that, you are in violation. You could probably get away with a new ‘oooh’ or ‘yeah’, but anything else would be a like disqualification.

Piet
Piet
18 days ago
Reply to  Sally

He would show he doesn’t care about the EBU and their incompetence! That statement would make him a true hero. Much better than achieving a sixth or seventh place in the final, because let’s be honest, he would never win anyway due to lack of jury support.

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
18 days ago
Reply to  Piet

The line between a true hero and a true zero is very small, careful.
But stop with that he will never be a Esc hero, it’s done.

Piet
Piet
20 days ago

Joost should return in 2025! He will be a certified fan winner!

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
19 days ago
Reply to  Piet

This cultish behaviour is severely overestimating his appeal. Snap out of it.

Darren
21 days ago

Id say he will come back but absolutely troll the EBU.
They may not even allow his entry.

That’s even if Netherlands does come back. I suspect there may be some EBU-trolling songs next year anyway.
Possible Dutch win if Joost does take part though, Europe is still angry.

Milan
Milan
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

EBU trolling songs don’t fare well with EBU 🙂

Davie
Davie
17 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Europe is not angry. A small number of super fans in the fan bubble are angry. Most people feel ambivalent.

jercle
jercle
21 days ago

I don’t know why he’d bother tbh, unless he wants to give a massive F**K YOU to the EBU. But seriously, the contest is so toxic right now, I don’t know why he’d want to go near it, especially since the issues of 2024 will be there in 2025 too.

Iván el Conquistador
Iván el Conquistador
20 days ago
Reply to  jercle

As long as Israel is allowed to compete, the enviroment will remain toxic.

Fatima
Fatima
21 days ago

Before his disqualification, I wasn’t the only one underwhelmed with his semi-final performance and staging. I feel he would not have got too many televotes in return for shouting ‘Euro’ 147 times and letting the backing track do the rest.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
21 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

??? ?????? ?? ???? ?????

absolutely correct, pre-recorded backing track is sooo a form of cheating, back in the good old days you only had live singing honestly, as well as a orchestra (wish they’d bring back the orchestra but sadly won’t happen i think)

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
19 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Yeah, the orchestra is definitely not coming back – modern music is just too complex. Recreating it on stage witb an otchestra as well as computer sounds can be done, of course, bit it would be too expensive, not to mention a logistics nightmare. Vocals, on the other hand, they need to be all live. No exceptions.

Fatima
Fatima
18 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

Hang on Vjera, San Remo has both modern music and and an orchestra. At the same time, Eurovision has an even greater logistics nightmare now with all the overcooked staging ideas. Acts were on and off the stage far quicker in the orchestra era, and it was fun to see the backing singers do their thing.

Sally
Sally
17 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

I do miss the days when the stage was the same for everyone. You won or lost on the strength of the song and the singing.

Sally
Sally
17 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

You think orchestral music is simple?

Sally
Sally
20 days ago
Reply to  Fatima

I know when I was keeping my own score card- anyone who had lead vocals or vocal distortions/gimmicks on the ‘backing track’ was automatically deducted 5 points out of a possible 10 in the singing category and some lost more for letting the ‘backing track’ sing most of the lead or for poorly singing what little they did sing.

All vocals need to be live. Since they added the ‘backing vocal track’, way too many artists have decided to use their allotted 6 people to put on a dance act instead of a vocal performance.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
19 days ago
Reply to  Sally

Yeah, if you cannot provide decent singing for a lousy three minutes, then this comoetition might not be for you…and you should f****** stay away from it. Simple as.

Sally
Sally
19 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

Kind of makes you respect the artists that get exposed every year. At least they tried to follow the rules.

Fatima
Fatima
18 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

Agree with you on this. When Dion won in 1988 she needed no backing or staging at all, she didn’t even need to move her feet. Her vocals and her ability to convey the feel of the song were more than enough. And she was only 20. We want more like that in the contest.

Shino
Shino
21 days ago

I know so many people who would love seeing him go to eurovision 2025 including myself ?

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
21 days ago

Netherlands, please keep this person out of ESC. Thanx!

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
19 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

Y’all mofos donvoting better start campaining for Anita and Roy to come back 2gether and bring the house down. Also, I bet CC Catch is available. And I bet there are a numner of talented performers just waiting for their chance to represent their homecountry instead of this unajusted mental clown with his sterile sounds. ew

GojoSatoru
GojoSatoru
19 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

The only mental clown here are you.

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
18 days ago
Reply to  GojoSatoru

That’s priceless, f*****!
I don’t go around attacking people who are just doing their job and then act like a f****** cry baby about it. This is Jacko type/level of apologism.
Abusing a****** need to be taught a lesson.

Despicable Annie
Despicable Annie
21 days ago

I still find his disqualification to be unfair and I hope he gets his justice next year.

Milan
Milan
20 days ago

I also hope he gets justice because he was clearly wronged, but I don’t see why we should suffer for that.

Thallo
Thallo
21 days ago

Joost gained a huge European fanbase from his participation, I have no doubt he’ll be a fan favourite in 2025.

No idea why Eurofans seem to be annoyed by this? We’ve never had a disqualified artist competing again, let’s see how it goes!

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
21 days ago
Reply to  Thallo

he shouldn’t be allowed to perform anywhere, not at ESC, not anywhere, the only place where he belongs is in jail

Basti
Basti
21 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Nicky, take your meds

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
20 days ago
Reply to  Basti

you need some meds, if you defend a women abuser

Milan
Milan
20 days ago
Reply to  Basti

Have you any idea how offensive this is to people who really take meds?

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
18 days ago
Reply to  Milan

Not nevessarily.

Milan
Milan
17 days ago
Reply to  Vjera Brdar

OK, to many people who take (the implied kind of) meds.

Anya
Anya
20 days ago
Reply to  Thallo

Personally, I really like Joost, but this situation is confusing. The dq was and is still a bit confusing (my home news even speculated about it somehow being related to the press conference) It would be a good thing to clear up everything around the 2024 exit before eventually beginning on the next chapter.

Also, he does seem to need some sort of assistance. It is very possible he knows exactly what and how, but the others have to know, too.

Fatima
Fatima
18 days ago
Reply to  Thallo

Did he though? If Europapa had done a Snap then I might agree. As things stand, he’s the Ben Johnson of Eurovision. Best known for his disqualification than his performance.

Ellen
Ellen
21 days ago

Thank u next. Female ab*ser at ESC again? Hell no.

Alex
Alex
21 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

Ok Amber Heard.

Ellen
Ellen
20 days ago
Reply to  Alex

I’ll celebrate when Joost will be finally sentenced as guilty. No fake autistic person and female ab*ser at ESC please.

Darren
21 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

If you have actual evidence you should contact the police.
Wiwibloggs isn’t a court of law. And if your sitting on such concrete evidence I suggest you bring it to the attention of the Malmö police.

Ellen
Ellen
20 days ago
Reply to  Darren

Mind your business Mr.Know-It-All-I-Give-Lessons-To-Everyone

Darren
19 days ago
Reply to  Ellen

Perhaps you should practice what you preach as you seem to “Know-It-All” regarding a potential crime being committed with very little evidence to back it up.

Alex
Alex
21 days ago

Lord this comment section is so obsessed about Joost like why are you all acting like he just k!lled someone?

GojoSatoru
GojoSatoru
19 days ago
Reply to  Alex

They’re just mad their favorite isn’t as popular as Joost.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
21 days ago

Joost Klein an even worse troll than Malta’s Aidan or Portugal’s Salvador Sobral

YUK

him and his pretentious stupid dutch music with his disgustingly moronic squeaking voice

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
21 days ago

NO, can he please get banned from social media for good?

rather a withdrawal than this frysian abusive little troll again

we have plenty other artists who can behave themselves so, if AVROTROS go for him again, i hope we just withdraw for good

Vjera Brdar
Vjera Brdar
18 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Bless you! 🙂

Patrick
Patrick
21 days ago

Why? Didn’t he hate all the attention and cameras?

spagettiTiger
spagettiTiger
21 days ago

Maybe he will be the first artist to be disqualified twice. Next year with the song Africamama.

Chris
Chris
21 days ago

I don’t know if this is a good idea. I mean I loved his entry this year but his behavior was apparently not right to get kicked out.

Anya
Anya
21 days ago

Well. We need openness.

ANDREW BROWN
ANDREW BROWN
21 days ago

I await the outcome of the investigation. I loved Europapa but the more i read about this man and his behaviour and demands to be left alone while carrying out erratic/eccentric actions the next i question his mental state of mind.

Ifty
Ifty
21 days ago

You wrote this entire piece, 8 paragraphs, without mentioning once that he’s doing this while still under charges for possibly assaulting an EBU staffer at Eurovision after an independent police investigation.

How are you a “fan” site of this competition? Absolutely disgusting. You’re only interested drama and in pending to the most rabid and toxic “fans”.

Alex
Alex
21 days ago
Reply to  Ifty

Where were you when they reported this a month ago?

Ifty
Ifty
21 days ago
Reply to  Alex

So because it was reported it a month ago then you can just gloss this over when discussing him possibly coming back while still under legal proceedings and this totally wasn’t an editorial choice. Cool.

They posted numerous articles justifying him and glossing over the fact that he has legal proceedings against him before even bothering analyzing the results of the competition.

Priorities. Absolutely shameful.

Alex
Alex
21 days ago
Reply to  Ifty

I don’t recall Wiwi ever saying “he’s innocent” or smth, they’re just reporting on the public facts being presented to us (ie AVROTROS, EBU, Malmo police etc).

Darren
21 days ago
Reply to  Ifty

Charges dropped literally a few hours before the grand final

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
21 days ago

But 2 weeks ago he said “f.ck Eurovision”… and now Eurovision 2025 let’s go…, his love for Eurovision was quick to come back apparently…

BbTt
BbTt
21 days ago

Yeah, no returning artist can win except Loreen. And he’s not Loreen. ?

Samuel
Samuel
21 days ago
Reply to  BbTt

Dima Bilan did it

Fatima
Fatima
21 days ago
Reply to  Samuel

So did Vicky Leandros, Cheryl Baker, Johnny Logan and Helena Paparizou …

BadWoolfGirl
BadWoolfGirl
21 days ago
Reply to  BbTt

Some of our winners have been returning artists.

Dennis Kinghorn
Dennis Kinghorn
21 days ago
Reply to  BbTt

And Linda Martin

jercle
jercle
21 days ago

Linda Martin should have won in 1984, but she shouldn’t have been anywhere near the win in 1992 with the dreary “Why Me?” If she had won in 1984, we’d have been spared 1992.

Ruud
Ruud
21 days ago

If we participate we should definitely send him again 😀
And then it will be Rotterdam or Amsterdam 2026

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
21 days ago
Reply to  Ruud

how would we win, if we just get dq’d again, since he’ll definitely abuse another production worker, the moron that he is

Alex
Alex
21 days ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

And how do you know he’d be disqualified again?

GojoSatoru
GojoSatoru
19 days ago
Reply to  Ruud

Leeuwarden 2026