This weekend Joost Klein had the crowd of Pinkpop – one of the Netherlands’ biggest pop festivals – in his grip. And not just while singing “Europapa”. A slip of the lips at the festival — coupled with the Fryslân native updating his socials — has everyone wondering whether Joost will return to Eurovision 2025 on behalf of The Netherlands.
The Netherlands has yet to formally announce its participation in the song contest in Switzerland. Usually the Benelux country is one of the first to confirm. At this point in recent years, the Dutch broadcaster AVROTROS was already receiving songs as part of their internal selection process. However, after Joost Klein became the first participant to ever be disqualified from the contest, AVROTROS is having second thoughts.
Earlier this month the broadcaster made it clear that it wants a broad and “truly independent” investigation into the most recent Eurovision — and structural changes in the way its organised. Its participation remains under “consideration” pending all of that.
Joost Klein hints at Eurovision 2025 return during Pinkpop
Joost has toured the world — from Canada to the Netherlands — since the grand final he was forced to miss. Announced as a headliner for Pinkpop, Joost took the stage in front of an excited crowd of festival-goers. During his set, he said to the public: “Why the fuck not, 2025?” That hints strongly that he wants another go at the song contest. The LED screen showed “joost klein 2025.”
Besides performing “Europapa”, Joost also premiered “The Bird Song” – another option he had for Eurovision 2024.
The Dutch star fuelled these rumours of a return even further on Sunday afternoon when he changed both his Instagram bio and the name of his broadcast channel from Eurovision 2024 to Eurovision 2025.
Prior to being named the Dutch hope in Malmö, Joost used this same broadcast channel to promote his Eurovision bid. The channel and social media campaign were among the driving forces that gave the Eurovision 2024 star the opportunity to actually go to the song contest.
If AVROTROS were to participate in Switzerland next year, it wouldn’t be so strange if they did select Joost. After all, in 2021, when Jeangu Macrooy had been deprived of his opportunity to go to Eurovision as a result of the pandemic, the broadcaster was one of the first to reselect their 2020 entrant.
Do you think that Joost Klein should return at Eurovision? What kind of song would you like to see him perform in 2025? Let us know in the comments down below!
Such a cursed ahh comment section lol, it’s not that deep.
Of course he should return
Please don’t.. don’t want more drama.
It’ time to remind you that Joost is not under investigation for any kind of physical attack. He is under investigation for “illegal threats”.
Nobody claims he has touched anyone.
Thanks, and whatever he did must have been bad, because the last thing the EBU would have wanted would be to disqualify a fan favourite on the day of the contest. That didn’t help them at all.
I will never understand what it’s like to have such blind faith in authorities, but it sure is a dangerous thing.
Next year what other crew member he’ll be slapping?
Case was dismissed with no evidence, nice try Dida.
Not totally against a comeback to let him properly compete, BUT is he does so, I’m afraid this could be AGAIN a pity voting (such as Ukraine 2022) and win the ESC just bc it’s him
Disqualification or not, he had his chance. Now pass the torch and let AVOTROS do something else again
Froukje would be amazing at ESC i feel, she slayed so hard at this years Pinkpop
she also feels like really strong ”fandom pet” vibes
Froukje is amazing. Now what I would like to see is Froukje + S10 + Joost at Eurovision.
I didn’t agree with his disqualification but for the love of what is good, can we just stop overhyping joke acts and start rewarding real music?
Yes, let’s stop overhyping joke acts. Good thing Joost Klein is not a joke act.
He is what then?
Downvotes but no responses, wiwi readers will never change.
To prove a point, you should ideally write in full sentences, better luck next time.
He shouted “Euro” 93 times while someone in a bird costume pretended to play a keyboard. Not exactly Bohemian Rhapsody, was it?
Just because you don’t understand the song, doesn’t mean it’s a joke entry. Every sentence in the song has symbolic meaning behind it. Even the bird suit is symbolism.
Yes, let’s stop overhyping those joke acts! Good thing Israel’s song didn’t win.
i myself only listen to real music honestly Joost is more like ”novelty” instead of a good quality nederpop representation of my country, Flemming or Antoon or Froukje would be better choices if we wanna go with dutch language again, otherwise english pop acts here i’d hope for Chef’Special or a even bigger name to shock everyone – Kane with the charismatic vocal dad Dinand Woesthoff to melt most housewives’s hearts, Kane are so good again with their latest release ”what if i want you now” very much a glow up like Train i think Di-Rect would also a be… Read more »
I’ve got no problem with AVROTROS giving Joost another shot at Eurovision, but shouldn’t they at least wait for the results of the Swedish police Investigation? Especially when they seem to be so obsessed with investigations?
At the very least, wait for the outcome.
AVROTROS is waiting. This was posted on Joost’s private account.
Exactly, I’m dismayed by the number of people who have made up their mind anyway. And with the end of the police investigation, we’ll then be able to hear the full side of the story from SVT and the EBU.
If his trials don’t interfere with Eurovision, then sure.
Does anyone know if anyone else has been disqualified due to behavior or similar reasons? I know several countries have been disqualified over song content, invading neighbors (sometimes) and such – but what about singers/groups?
As far as I know, nobody has been disqualified this way before. That’s why someone joked that Joost promised something never seen in Eurovision and he actually delivered
So it means all this mess was prepared, I can’t believe it.
Utterly irksome
It’s wishful thinking. The Netherlands is going the way of Hungary in 2025. Hopefully, Norway will follow suit. At least until Öosterdahl resigns in shame.
everyone needs to be like Hungary and Turkiye honestly
The awkward moment when you realize Orban and Erdogan have a point.
Well, how about you then? Everytime I visit Wiwi, I see you complaining about how dreadful, unwatchable and corrupt Eurovision supposedly had become. Maybe it’s time for you to go and touch some grass?
no i am going to ruin eurovision for all of you as well, who cares about these attention seeking fishbreath wannabe loser artists
Your mum must be very proud of you.
If he returns, he should sing different lyrics in the finals exposing the EBU’s incompetence. He would probably be disqualified again, but that would make him immortal!
If he brings the same song with different lyrics he absolutely would be disqualified for bringing a previously released song. And he should be. If he wasn’t, what would stop acts from entering established hits and just singing them in a different language or some other change to the lyrics.
Of course he shouldn’t bring the same song! He should bring a new song with very cute lyrics in the semis and then change those lyrics in the final to go all the way! Of course he will be disqualified for changing the lyrics but it would make one hell of an anti-EBU statement.
No, it would childish behaviour.
Yep, exactly! Changing the lyrics of his new entry in the final to expose EBU incompetence would show he doesn’t give a damn about them!
That stunt would get him disqualified all over again. There is a cut off date for when all revisions and changes have to be in. If you change it after that, you are in violation. You could probably get away with a new ‘oooh’ or ‘yeah’, but anything else would be a like disqualification.
He would show he doesn’t care about the EBU and their incompetence! That statement would make him a true hero. Much better than achieving a sixth or seventh place in the final, because let’s be honest, he would never win anyway due to lack of jury support.
The line between a true hero and a true zero is very small, careful.
But stop with that he will never be a Esc hero, it’s done.
Joost should return in 2025! He will be a certified fan winner!
This cultish behaviour is severely overestimating his appeal. Snap out of it.
Id say he will come back but absolutely troll the EBU.
They may not even allow his entry.
That’s even if Netherlands does come back. I suspect there may be some EBU-trolling songs next year anyway.
Possible Dutch win if Joost does take part though, Europe is still angry.
EBU trolling songs don’t fare well with EBU 🙂
Europe is not angry. A small number of super fans in the fan bubble are angry. Most people feel ambivalent.
I don’t know why he’d bother tbh, unless he wants to give a massive F**K YOU to the EBU. But seriously, the contest is so toxic right now, I don’t know why he’d want to go near it, especially since the issues of 2024 will be there in 2025 too.
As long as Israel is allowed to compete, the enviroment will remain toxic.
Before his disqualification, I wasn’t the only one underwhelmed with his semi-final performance and staging. I feel he would not have got too many televotes in return for shouting ‘Euro’ 147 times and letting the backing track do the rest.
??? ?????? ?? ???? ?????
absolutely correct, pre-recorded backing track is sooo a form of cheating, back in the good old days you only had live singing honestly, as well as a orchestra (wish they’d bring back the orchestra but sadly won’t happen i think)
Yeah, the orchestra is definitely not coming back – modern music is just too complex. Recreating it on stage witb an otchestra as well as computer sounds can be done, of course, bit it would be too expensive, not to mention a logistics nightmare. Vocals, on the other hand, they need to be all live. No exceptions.
Hang on Vjera, San Remo has both modern music and and an orchestra. At the same time, Eurovision has an even greater logistics nightmare now with all the overcooked staging ideas. Acts were on and off the stage far quicker in the orchestra era, and it was fun to see the backing singers do their thing.
I do miss the days when the stage was the same for everyone. You won or lost on the strength of the song and the singing.
You think orchestral music is simple?
I know when I was keeping my own score card- anyone who had lead vocals or vocal distortions/gimmicks on the ‘backing track’ was automatically deducted 5 points out of a possible 10 in the singing category and some lost more for letting the ‘backing track’ sing most of the lead or for poorly singing what little they did sing.
All vocals need to be live. Since they added the ‘backing vocal track’, way too many artists have decided to use their allotted 6 people to put on a dance act instead of a vocal performance.
Yeah, if you cannot provide decent singing for a lousy three minutes, then this comoetition might not be for you…and you should f****** stay away from it. Simple as.
Kind of makes you respect the artists that get exposed every year. At least they tried to follow the rules.
Agree with you on this. When Dion won in 1988 she needed no backing or staging at all, she didn’t even need to move her feet. Her vocals and her ability to convey the feel of the song were more than enough. And she was only 20. We want more like that in the contest.
I know so many people who would love seeing him go to eurovision 2025 including myself ?
Netherlands, please keep this person out of ESC. Thanx!
Y’all mofos donvoting better start campaining for Anita and Roy to come back 2gether and bring the house down. Also, I bet CC Catch is available. And I bet there are a numner of talented performers just waiting for their chance to represent their homecountry instead of this unajusted mental clown with his sterile sounds. ew
The only mental clown here are you.
That’s priceless, f*****!
I don’t go around attacking people who are just doing their job and then act like a f****** cry baby about it. This is Jacko type/level of apologism.
Abusing a****** need to be taught a lesson.
I still find his disqualification to be unfair and I hope he gets his justice next year.
I also hope he gets justice because he was clearly wronged, but I don’t see why we should suffer for that.
Joost gained a huge European fanbase from his participation, I have no doubt he’ll be a fan favourite in 2025.
No idea why Eurofans seem to be annoyed by this? We’ve never had a disqualified artist competing again, let’s see how it goes!
he shouldn’t be allowed to perform anywhere, not at ESC, not anywhere, the only place where he belongs is in jail
Nicky, take your meds
you need some meds, if you defend a women abuser
Have you any idea how offensive this is to people who really take meds?
Not nevessarily.
OK, to many people who take (the implied kind of) meds.
Personally, I really like Joost, but this situation is confusing. The dq was and is still a bit confusing (my home news even speculated about it somehow being related to the press conference) It would be a good thing to clear up everything around the 2024 exit before eventually beginning on the next chapter.
Also, he does seem to need some sort of assistance. It is very possible he knows exactly what and how, but the others have to know, too.
Did he though? If Europapa had done a Snap then I might agree. As things stand, he’s the Ben Johnson of Eurovision. Best known for his disqualification than his performance.
Thank u next. Female ab*ser at ESC again? Hell no.
Ok Amber Heard.
I’ll celebrate when Joost will be finally sentenced as guilty. No fake autistic person and female ab*ser at ESC please.
If you have actual evidence you should contact the police.
Wiwibloggs isn’t a court of law. And if your sitting on such concrete evidence I suggest you bring it to the attention of the Malmö police.
Mind your business Mr.Know-It-All-I-Give-Lessons-To-Everyone
Perhaps you should practice what you preach as you seem to “Know-It-All” regarding a potential crime being committed with very little evidence to back it up.
Lord this comment section is so obsessed about Joost like why are you all acting like he just k!lled someone?
They’re just mad their favorite isn’t as popular as Joost.
Joost Klein an even worse troll than Malta’s Aidan or Portugal’s Salvador Sobral
YUK
him and his pretentious stupid dutch music with his disgustingly moronic squeaking voice
NO, can he please get banned from social media for good?
rather a withdrawal than this frysian abusive little troll again
we have plenty other artists who can behave themselves so, if AVROTROS go for him again, i hope we just withdraw for good
Bless you! 🙂
Why? Didn’t he hate all the attention and cameras?
Maybe he will be the first artist to be disqualified twice. Next year with the song Africamama.
I don’t know if this is a good idea. I mean I loved his entry this year but his behavior was apparently not right to get kicked out.
Well. We need openness.
I await the outcome of the investigation. I loved Europapa but the more i read about this man and his behaviour and demands to be left alone while carrying out erratic/eccentric actions the next i question his mental state of mind.
You wrote this entire piece, 8 paragraphs, without mentioning once that he’s doing this while still under charges for possibly assaulting an EBU staffer at Eurovision after an independent police investigation.
How are you a “fan” site of this competition? Absolutely disgusting. You’re only interested drama and in pending to the most rabid and toxic “fans”.
Where were you when they reported this a month ago?
So because it was reported it a month ago then you can just gloss this over when discussing him possibly coming back while still under legal proceedings and this totally wasn’t an editorial choice. Cool.
They posted numerous articles justifying him and glossing over the fact that he has legal proceedings against him before even bothering analyzing the results of the competition.
Priorities. Absolutely shameful.
I don’t recall Wiwi ever saying “he’s innocent” or smth, they’re just reporting on the public facts being presented to us (ie AVROTROS, EBU, Malmo police etc).
Charges dropped literally a few hours before the grand final
But 2 weeks ago he said “f.ck Eurovision”… and now Eurovision 2025 let’s go…, his love for Eurovision was quick to come back apparently…
Yeah, no returning artist can win except Loreen. And he’s not Loreen. ?
Dima Bilan did it
So did Vicky Leandros, Cheryl Baker, Johnny Logan and Helena Paparizou …
Some of our winners have been returning artists.
And Linda Martin
Linda Martin should have won in 1984, but she shouldn’t have been anywhere near the win in 1992 with the dreary “Why Me?” If she had won in 1984, we’d have been spared 1992.
If we participate we should definitely send him again 😀
And then it will be Rotterdam or Amsterdam 2026
how would we win, if we just get dq’d again, since he’ll definitely abuse another production worker, the moron that he is
And how do you know he’d be disqualified again?
Leeuwarden 2026