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Croatia has made its decision. After two semi-finals earlier in the week, the grand final of Dora 2024 took place on Sunday.

From the 24 initial acts, 16 made it to this final stage. But ultimately only one could emerge victorious and have the honour of waving the Croatian flag at Eurovision this May.

After topping both the public and jury vote (the former in a landslide), the successful act was Baby Lasagna with the song “Rim Tim Tagi Dim”.

Dora 2024: Grand final results

The end result was determined by a combination of voting from three groups: 50% public voting, 25% Croatian jury, 25% international jury.

Jury voting

  1. Baby Lasagna – 74 points
  2. Vinko – 59 points
  3. Let 3 – 55 points
  4. Damir Kedžo – 51 points
  5. Marcela – 39 points
  6. Pavel – 38 points
  7. Alen Đuras – 35 points
  8. Eugen – 26 points
  9. Natalie Balmix – 24 points
  10. Vatra – 21 points
  11. Lara Demarin – 19 points
  12. Boris Štok – 10 points
  13. Lana Mandarić – 9 points
  14. Stefany Žužić – 3 points
  15. Saša Lozar – 1 pont
  16. Mario Battifiaca feat. Robert Ferlin – 0 points

Public voting

  1. Baby Lasagna – 247 points
  2. Alen Đuras – 27 points
  3. Let 3 – 24 points
  4. Vinko – 23 points
  5. Damir Kedžo – 22 points
  6. Marcela – 20 points
  7. Pavel – 15 points
  8. Eugen – 15 points
  9. Vatra – 15 points
  10. Boris Štok – 13 points
  11. Natalie Balmix – 11 points
  12. Stefany – 9 points
  13. Mario Battifiaca feat. Robert Ferlin – 9 points
  14. Lara Demarin – 6 points
  15. Saša Lozar – 5 points
  16. Lana Mandarić – 4 points

Combined result

  1. Baby Lasagna – 321 points
  2. Vinko – 82 points
  3. Let 3 – 79 points
  4. Damir Kedžo – 73 points
  5. Alen Đuras – 62 points
  6. Marcela – 59 points
  7. Pavel – 53 points
  8. Eugen – 41 points
  9. Vatra – 36 points
  10. Natalie Balmix – 35 points
  11. Lara Demarin – 25 points
  12. Boris Štok – 23 points
  13. Lana Mandarić – 13 points
  14. Stefany – 12 points
  15. Mario Battifiaca feat. Robert Ferlin – 9 points
  16. Saša Lozar – 6 points

Dora 2024: Grand final running order

  1. Natalie Balmix – “Dijamanti”
  2. Mario Battifiaca feat. Robert Ferlin – “Vodu piti trizan biti”
  3. Lana Mandarić – “More”
  4. Boris Štok – “Can We Talk”
  5. Stefany Žužić – “Sretnih dana dat’ će Bog”
  6. Pavel – “Do Mjeseca”
  7. Saša Lozar – “Ne plačem zbog nje”
  8. Lara Demarin – “Ne vjerujem ti”
  9. Let 3 – “Baba roga”
  10. Alen Đuras – “A Tamburitza Lullaby”
  11. Eugen – “Tišine”
  12. Vatra – “Slatke suze, gorka ljubav”
  13. Damir Kedžo – “Voljena ženo”
  14. Baby Lasagna – “Rim tim tagi dim”
  15. Marcela – “Gasoline”
  16. Vinko – “Lying Eyes”

Has Croatia chosen wisely? How do you think the country will do at Eurovision? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

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The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago

He’s increasing his odds even though he’s already 1st in them! Everyone else is going down!

Itchymonkey
Itchymonkey
1 month ago

OFFICIAL FAVOURITE

Matt
Matt
1 month ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

Meow 😉

Itchymonkey
Itchymonkey
1 month ago

BABY IS ABOUT TO GO FAVOURITE IN THE ODDS

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago

The live performance now has ONE MILLION views! Amazing for Croatia and in only three days!

Also, in the odds, Croatia are now at 14% meaning they now have the same as Ukraine! Baby is now the predicted winner!

Lilli
Lilli
1 month ago

Yes Baby Lasagna I love him!! ??? Hater like vincenzo or giovanni here are so disgusting and should be blocked immediately! You don’t have to like it, ok who cares. But stup with the stupid things like it’s like this or that!! It’s Baby Lasagna and good!! And if you have seen the same Show than you have seen that he has the microphone so far from the lips that it’s not possible to hear a voice. And when he sings it’s good and that’s enough!! Croatia have send the most time great singer and didn’t won.. And the wind… Read more »

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Lilli

So, if I don’t like something, purely on the musical side or voice of the singer (very average to me) I must be banned? You are very democratic, my dear. Do you have friends in Russia? Are you the secret daughter of Putin? Yes, I confirm. To me Baby Lasagna is an average singer. His performance can be sung by everybody. Just take someone in the street and ask him to sing this song. The result will be the same. Does he deserve to win a music contest of this importance? For me (and someone else who wrote here and… Read more »

Marian C?t?
1 month ago

He Is Not Devil Man!

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago

Ok, so this Croatian song is a copy of another demo by Ryan De La Vega DJ appeared on Youtube 3 years ago. Listen from minute 3:00. Identical music.

Here is the demo:

https://youtu.be/OtGL27rLMDo?si=pR6Idp2YJv7zSx48

Johnny
Johnny
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

You need to calm down,, go for a walk, have a drink with friends, you are a bit crazy

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Johnny

I am a bit crazy? Just listen. It’s the same song. Good, when you bring evidence they tell you are crazy. Very funny.

Peaaas
Peaaas
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Out of curiosity, do you know what demo/sample means in music industry? Someone makes the music and then sells it to other musicians who then put it in their own song.

This is how music industry works. Do you really think musicians make the sounds themselves? No, they don’t. They buy bunch of samples and then mix them together to make the song they wanted.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

What do you want to happen to Rim Tim Tagi Dim?

Itchymonkey
Itchymonkey
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

You are desperate to save your betting money or country lol

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

I already wrote I am following Eurovision from late seventies but I never voted. I don’t care to throw away money in a contest where people wants to waste money for a qualityless song or singer like this. My vote will be useles and I prefer to use money for more useful things. More and more silly songs will win this competition because of musically untrained or uncultivated people who vote for songs like this, or Kaarja or Windows95. But you still continue to accuse me of having a nationalistic interest or personal hate towards some countries in disliking this… Read more »

kaos esc
kaos esc
1 month ago

eurovision its a tv show, so don’t be serious … let Croatia rise the microphone!!!

Jamie
Jamie
1 month ago
Reply to  kaos esc

Nah

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  kaos esc

I would prefer some singer able to raise the level of the songs in this year’s Eurovision. But ok.

Tommy
Tommy
1 month ago

Most people have no taste in music, really. People supporting this are the same people that voted for the Chicken Song to win in 2018.

Kor
Kor
1 month ago
Reply to  Tommy

Tommy, they have different taste. Stop being sublime and think your taste is better.

Tommy
Tommy
1 month ago
Reply to  Kor

People just want the high from the win that they didn’t get with Käärija last year, that’s all it is. If Käärija won last year, they wouldv’e not supported this.Period.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Tommy

Not really.This is MUCH more ethnic and the song is from Croatia, a country who have NEVER won Eurovision.

Tommy
Tommy
1 month ago

They did win under Yugosavia. They even host it in Zagreb in 1990. It was the Croatian representative and Croatian TV that won for Yugoslavia that year and Croatian Tv that hosted it. so yes, Croatia has won before.

Kor
Kor
1 month ago
Reply to  Tommy

Funny. When Croatians are bragging they won before, they get “It was Yugoslavia, it doesn’t count” l. When they say we never won then it’s “Yes you did in 1990”. How it changes, just to fit someone’s narrative. Hilarious

Tommy
Tommy
1 month ago
Reply to  Kor

Well they didn’t win in 1990. They came in 7th. Taj?i was also a Croatian TV representative. They won in 1989.

Kor
Kor
1 month ago
Reply to  Tommy

Ok 1989. But you know what I mean

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Tommy

But not directly. It’s time for Croatians to officially have that label.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Kor

Well, they should agree there are different tastes then, and stop downvoting those who, definitely entitled to have a different taste, expressed the legitimate point of view of not liking this song. Is that hard to achieve? Why every single person who dared to write something not positive about this song has been massively downvoted? It’s exactly how dictatorship work. If somebody expresses a legitimate opinion, they destroy your reputation. With a yellow star? Or with a pink triangle? Or with a red downvote. I will call it the “Gestapo method”. We have way more things to learn in Europe,… Read more »

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Kor

Well, they should agree there are different tastes then, and stop downvoting those who, definitely entitled to have a different taste, expressed the legitimate point of view of not liking this song. Is that hard to achieve? Why every single person who dared to write something not positive about this song has been massively downvoted? It’s exactly how dictatorship work. If somebody expresses a legitimate opinion, they destroy your reputation. With a yellow star? Or with a pink triangle? Or with a red downvote. I will call it the “Gest@po method”. We have way more things to learn in Europe,… Read more »

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Tommy

No, Italy was my favourite from 2018.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Tommy

No it’s not. This song’s meaning is more like Italy 2018

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago

Italy 2018 was about the islamic terroristic attacks in Nice, Paris, etc.

putin
putin
1 month ago

i guess that all of those who claim that this is kaarja’s copycat, cannot tell the difference between two asians either

Henry
Henry
1 month ago
Reply to  putin

They also put a 90s-pop song and a rock one next to each other, and call them both “Kaarija copycats” ……

Kari
Kari
1 month ago
Reply to  putin

I agree. I’ve seen some Finnish Kaarija grannies cry loud Baby Lasagna stolen Kaarija’s sleeves, color green etc. I tried to teach them puffy sleeves have been worn around the world for centuries so Kaarija did not invent those, either he invented green.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Kari

How many times are we going to have to tell ’em that the puffy sleeves are ETHNIC CLOTHING

Ogisha
Ogisha
1 month ago

Not enough times. They did not have to enlarge sleeves that much.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  putin

Putin, is that you? The Russian dictator? Would you please take that red pill I sent you by registered letter and drink some water? You will feel well after (and also lots of other Ukrainians and Europeans). 🙂 Just kidding.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Hey Bibie still having that still clean sip of water. Is that you??
Many peoples dont have acces to that right now, as we speak.

Just kidding.
pumokin take the blue pill

Antananarivo
Antananarivo
1 month ago

Croatia 6,5/12 – but I´ve nothing against a victory….

Nye
Nye
1 month ago

I don’t like this song. So far, so bad…

Ethan
Ethan
1 month ago

Give the guy a break, not only is this a banger, it’s also a quality piece compared to the entries chosen so far. Winner!

Denis
Denis
1 month ago

Has this site turned into ” fan admiration post for Baby Lasagna?
It is a forum, opinions are allowed. He is my favourite too but I am not going to throw hissy fits or downvote somebody for saying negative stuff. It is fine to not like a song for whatever reason just like it is fine to like a song for whatever reason.
In ESC not everybody will like the song either, nor will every country like it either. What then, you throw tantrums over a country not giving him any points?

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Denis

Thank you. Unfortunately here not all those who post comments or downvotes are intelligent and tolerant as you are. If we have only to praise whatever song, even when we don’t like it, that will be very false.

Kor
Kor
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Vincenzo, I agree with Denis, and I would agree with you as well, but it is very hard when: you have been insulting the song (calling it trash, stupid etc.). Constructive criticism would be “I do not like it because his vocals are not excellent” or something along these lines. you have been insulting other people who were going into discussion with you (saying teaching them what quality is, is like teaching cat to use a toilett – or something like that, I did not really get it fully) or saying they are not intelligent. Do not get me wrong,… Read more »

Matt
Matt
1 month ago
Reply to  Kor

Thanks for saying what I just wanted to write..
Opinions defer and everyone has the right for one, but not on nonstop bashing and trashing..

Enjoy the music guys.. Meow 😉

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Kor

I have circumstantiated my critics in a lot of other answers. For me to be a singer you need to actually sing (not talk), do not use the vocoder (because it is like winning the 100m hurdles having a spring in the shoes) and have decent vocal skills and vocal extension. Because if anybody can win by talking and not singing, having an average voice and all this is compensated by the crazy costumes, the crazy props, showing booty (not he case of Baby Lasagna but we all know that many use the sexual display as a way to attract… Read more »

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

And this will be my last reply on this argument. Then, if Eurovision will become a freak show, I will continue to watch Sanremo and I believe RAI should better stop participating to Eurovision if chicken songs or the trash wins each time because of uncultured, musical untrained fans who just love the camp side of the Eurovision and don’t even require to have the basic skill a singer must have if he/she wants to be a singer. I had enough of seing Karjaa before Marco Mengoni in 2023. I will not survive another year with Baby Lasagna guy or… Read more »

idk
idk
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Calm your t*ts Vincenzo, you’ve written about 20 hate comments on here. Newsflash – You’re not an expert in music.

Kor
Kor
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

And again you can not avoid insults. Honestly, I think you should clam down and try to develop tolerance to people that do not share your views.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Kor

Where did I show intolerance? Where did I insult? I just said why I don’t like this song proposal, and I get downvoted (so the intolerant to other opinions is not me but someone else) and I didn’t reject the opinion of the people who like this song. I said what I had to say. If the circus here on Wiwibloggs wants this kind of songs, no problem for me. During the semifinals and finals I will listen to the quality songs I like and will go to the toilet break when Finland or Croatia are singing. And I didn’t… Read more »

Kor
Kor
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Look, if you think calling things “trash, freak show” etc., is acceptable way to talk, then I have nothing more to say.

People may like or not like this song, but there is a proper way to express it.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Since Cake To Bake (Latvia) 2014, the ESC oven is heated up enough baking a beautifull Baby Lasagna!!
I like it and hope many more will do.

Maybe the Juries at the GF are eating other stuf?
But this gets top 10/15 for sure,

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Denis

I’m increasingly finding the opposite. Everyone seems to be attacking the performance without giving any adequate reasons or evidence for that.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago

I wrote the reasons many time but you keep denying it.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

All you keep doing is stating things without explaining why and downvoting others posts that are even remotely positive! Give him a break! This isn’t the final version of the performance! We shall see in Malmo.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago

How do you know that I downvote other posts? You should be a psychic to guess what I am doing. The one with lot of downvotes is me. On the contrary to lots of other people here, I never downvote those who have different ideas, unless they write false things. I have expressed many times the reasons while I think this song is weak and his way of singing is nothing to make me say “Wow”. For me the vocal quality, range extension, capacity to jump from head to chest voice are the basic skills required to be a singer.… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
1 month ago

Beware of people who call other people’s hard work trash from their comfortable chairs. That being said Baby ftw ??

Anna Banana
Anna Banana
1 month ago

I have never been much of an animal loving person, but Baby Lasagna makes me wanna get a cat. Miau.

Andrew
Andrew
1 month ago
Reply to  Anna Banana

With one eye I hope

Anna Banana
Anna Banana
1 month ago
Reply to  Andrew

actually the one eyed cat in his music video inspired this thought in me :'(

Andrew
Andrew
1 month ago
Reply to  Anna Banana

#CatLivesMatter

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Anna Banana

I’m a dog person but now I want a ginger cat with an eyepatch!

Itchymonkey
Itchymonkey
1 month ago

I have a feeling this might win in Malmo.
Kaarija would have won if it wasn’t for loreen and the jury. So think about it we have no huge returning star like loreen to take those votes this year. Maybe nobody can stop him

Ogisha
Ogisha
1 month ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

Kaarija is a class above this.

Kari
Kari
1 month ago
Reply to  Ogisha

Actually Kaarija is 100% from this. Kaarija cannot sing.

Kari
Kari
1 month ago
Reply to  Kari

100% down I mean.

Anna
Anna
1 month ago
Reply to  Kari

Mediocre singers both of them, but The songs are catchy enough. Although Kaarija’s song was more creative and surprising, a little bit better for me. I still listen to Cha Cha Cha.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

Also, there’s quite a few acts who the jury can upvote so their points might be scattered, unpredictable and random. Croatia might also get a few for the deeper meaning of the song and the performance since it’ll be polished in Malmo which might propel Baby forward.

Jamie
Jamie
1 month ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

Kaarija had charisma

Rambo Amadeus
Rambo Amadeus
2 months ago

Baby Lasagna prances around with his amateur hour “singing” and the fans start lapping it up immediately, probably the same people who were convinced Kaarija’s meme was the second coming of Jesus last season…

Andrew
Andrew
2 months ago
Reply to  Rambo Amadeus

Or maybe people just like it

Rambo Amadeus
Rambo Amadeus
2 months ago
Reply to  Andrew

Yes, and I’m only offering objective criticism, the baby just can’t sing at all.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Rambo Amadeus

From when for the average eurovision fan being able to sing is am important factor to assign a victory? We all know a lot here only care for the trash effect, the costumes, the props on stage, the dance moves etc.

Itchymonkey
Itchymonkey
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Vincenzo and Amedeus. Italians yet again desperately trying to win their 100 euro bets on Angelina lol

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

And Ukraine! Ira pathetic!

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

I never bet in my life. I don’t care if Angelina wins. Italy won thanks to the class of Måneskin. I would have preferred Mengoni to win as he is a league superior to Loreen and Karjaa. I don’t think Angelina will ever win, considering the number of people who like this song from Croatia or the song of Karjaa. Unfortunately there are many who only like trashy dresses, dance movea etc. That’s the lack of musical culture.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

And I never voted for either Sanremo or Eurovision. So as you see, I don’t care.

Itchymonkey
Itchymonkey
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

If you don’t care, bet or vote on Eurovision why bother moaning about it. Go enjoy something in life

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

You don’t seem to not care seeing your reactions here… be consistent at least.

Kari
Kari
1 month ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

You can include on that list Finns also.

Anna
Anna
1 month ago
Reply to  Kari

Finns are loving this entry, it’s their kind of music

Jonas
Jonas
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

It is not a singing contest, it is a song contest. Pavarotti-level vocals are not required for Rim Tim Tagi Dim.

Andrew
Andrew
1 month ago
Reply to  Jonas

Lol true

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Jonas

I never asked Pavarotti level. Just someone who actually sings, not talks for the 80% of the song. And at least is able to be on tune. But ok, I understand that imagining you can understand what I think, for most of you, it’s like teaching to a cat sit on the toilet to relieve himself. Concerning the quality I am asking for just read the long answer I wrote below speaking of the history of Sanremo. It’s funny, Jonas, becaiss you are the first fan of Sanremo, watching the 5 evenings and praise the quality of songs and the… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

I love Sanremo, I do. I also happen to like Baby Lasagna. The two don’t need to be mutually exclusive. I think the song is silly, but also better than you give it credit for. It is about young people forced to leave their home because of economics, after all. There is something relieving and cathartic about letting off steam in a light hearted way. It is still art, even if not as serious as other art.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Jonas

Additionally, read the other comments. It’s easy, just look at the red of the downvotes. There are a lot of people who don’t like this song. And I am sure they aren’t all italian. But if you think Italians are so interested in coming to this site to discredit the croatian entry, I cannot deny you this pleasure. Additionally, on Instagram and Youtube there are some Croatians who write that the Italian jury voting in Dora didn’t give a vote to Baby Lasagna for a kind of strategy to boycott it against Angelina Mango. That’s crazy. If you go to… Read more »

NoMoreEscAddicted
NoMoreEscAddicted
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Israel wasn’t top notch vocally last year sorry.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Jonas

And anyway, for me singing and song it’s exactly the same. One can come to Eurovision singing the recipe of the lasagna, with a Pavarotti like voice, for me it will be still bad and will give zero votes. I want a good song, lyrics wise and musicwise and a good performer. Who is able to sing, to breath at the right moment, with a decent extension. If Il Volo were singing the newscast instead of Grande Amore my vote would be zero anyway. And I also think something else. The more dancers or props on stage, and the more… Read more »

Darco
Darco
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

I think you should watch the Voice, not eurovision. I don’t believe that anyone ever tuned in for eurovision because of the singing abilities of the contestants. It’s light, fun show. People need to chill and enjoy. If you don’t like some song, do what most people do: take a toilet break during that performance. No need to trash around what is enjoyable for some people. By the way- not talking about BL, I do like that song in studio version, but I agree it’s overhyped. But honestly whatever, if that makes some people happy- let them be. Better go… Read more »

Héléne
Héléne
1 month ago
Reply to  Jonas

Actually the jury votes partly based on vocal capacity. Juries are asked to focus their vote on 4 main sets of criteria:
1 Vocal capacity of the artist(s)
2 Performance on stage
3 Composition and originality of the song
4 Overall impression of the act

Itchymonkey
Itchymonkey
1 month ago
Reply to  Héléne

Then Raiven will top the jury with slim liiiiiiine from France

Héléne
Héléne
1 month ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

It is possible that France, Belgium and Italy will get good scores from the jury. Having good song writing, vocal capacity ( I am not sure about Belgium not seeing home live) and performance. But they need to have a good staging ( overall impression of the act). I Raiven having all these? I seem to forget the song it has not stuck on me at all.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Spoiler: Loreen just has soiled her toaster ESC 23 on Ebay.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Rambo Amadeus

It’s not a ‘singing’ song. It’s about the song in itself

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
1 month ago
Reply to  Rambo Amadeus

My last nites Lasagna couldnt either, but it tasted delious.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
1 month ago
Reply to  Rambo Amadeus

nooo, Jesus also came from Palestina.
The online ESC trolls wouldnt have voted for as such.

Karl
Karl
2 months ago

Hope that there are international juries; otherwise trashy entries copied by Finland’s song last year would get more votes :/

Kari
Kari
1 month ago
Reply to  Karl

Actually juries are more willing to give votes for this Croatian song than they were for Kaarija.

Jamie
Jamie
1 month ago
Reply to  Kari

You’re joking, right? This will be absolutely tanked by the jury due to the lack of originality and poor vocals. Won’t be a sure televote winner either, too many “fun” songs this year that will cancel each other. Happened before many times, I don’t see why it shouldn’t happen this year.

Darco
Darco
1 month ago
Reply to  Jamie

And if it happens – fine. It will not make song less enjoyable

Mariah
Mariah
2 months ago

1 strong part
– it’s catchy

2 weak part
– why in English
– too much Rammstein
-too agressive
too much screaming
it lacks identity (because of the language)
-stage performance

Michael
Michael
2 months ago

The quality of songs at Eurovision has been decreasing and it is sad that Croatia has been contributing to this two years in a row by sending circus songs sang with bad vocals 🙁

Kari
Kari
1 month ago
Reply to  Michael

It is not a church consert it is ESC it is supposed to be fun, people dancing.

Thomas
Thomas
2 months ago

The best song for now, then maybe Italy & Lithuania. Ukraine is pathetic as always, I do not how long we will listen to this pathos year after year.

Jamie
Jamie
1 month ago
Reply to  Thomas

‘Pathetic as always’… yeah it’s not the songs you hate, you just hate Ukraine as a country buddy. Russofascist much?

delmas
delmas
2 months ago

946 comments… Let’s chill a bit people. Other countries exist too!

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  delmas

This just goes to show how much the song has made people talk. If more people are talking about it, who will not know about the song by May?

Briekimchi
Briekimchi
2 months ago

I still don’t understand why anyone could be negative about this. It’s exactly the type of entry and hype that Croatia deserve. They’ve been through some tough years and needed this.

And those giving the song a hard time, what great Eurovision masterpiece are you lamenting losing exactly? Gasoline? A Tamburitza Lullaby? Voljena Zeno? Give the guy his flowers already.

Poul Riisen
Poul Riisen
2 months ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

No worries, he will do great. I guess the only thing most fans disagree with is the degree. Winning? Top-3, 5, 10? We will have to wait and see. It’s a great entry though and Croatia needed this.Good luck Hrvatska! Zagreb 2025? Perhaps (Visited Zagreb last year and loooved it so why not!).

Milan
Milan
1 month ago
Reply to  Poul Riisen

Winning, that should be clear by now, unless some of the remaining countries pulls a major surprise – but I don’t see great potential there.

Denis
Denis
2 months ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

People have opinions, this is not a fan page.
I like the song too but I will not get triggered or angry that people don’t like it. Not everybody will love it and that’s ok.
Not every country in ESC will love it, I think it will be a divided response across Europe

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Denis

Finally someone posting something wise.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Denis

But people will still vote for it. The fact it triggers people means it is memorable!

Denis
Denis
1 month ago

Yes, those who like it will vote. But it is not given that everybody will vote for him or that every country will give him points. It is a divisive song and it is ok to not like it for whatever reason. That is what I am saying.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
1 month ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

No, give the guy his Eurovision trophy! Croatia are already second in the odds!

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago

There were countries present in the odds that didn’t even present their song yet. But, also this year, the result will be identical to the odds of the week before the final. Crazy.

Jamie
Jamie
1 month ago
Reply to  Briekimchi

It’s the fake ass hype that most people can’t stand, not the song. This is nowhere near a winner, touch some grass…

Bandido
Bandido
2 months ago

Let’s face it! Teresa&Maria = Tattoo -> 1. , Rim Tim =Cha Cha -> 2.

Matt
Matt
1 month ago
Reply to  Bandido

I think that urgently you need a proper check of your ears and claiming this songs even resemble to each other..

Bandido
Bandido
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt

Missing the point! It’s the placing NOT about resembling!

Span
Span
2 months ago

Looks like this is the yearly entry that attracts the insufferable cult-like fanbase. Good luck winning with bottom 5 jury score.

Ogisha
Ogisha
2 months ago
Reply to  Span

This is why I am personally agitated. The hype is imposed too aggressively.

Andrew
Andrew
2 months ago
Reply to  Ogisha

Aggressively? How? It’s the ones who dislike it who are triggered!

Tommy
Tommy
2 months ago

You can try to excuse this mess all you want but the fact is it was cute with Käärija but not this copycat. No one likes a copycat.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Tommy

Just read some comments on youtube, regarding the reactions to this song. Everybody commenting about this song being the clone or bad copy of Cha Cha Cha.

Kor
Kor
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Lol everybody? That’s a bold statement….

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Kor

Yeah, you are right. Let’s say “lots of comments” point out this may be a copycat of Karjaa, in the same style.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago
Reply to  Tommy

Kaarija copied Rammstein and several rock songs. Does that mean Cha Cha Cha is a copycat?

Denis
Denis
2 months ago

He also copied Electric Callboy,does that make him not an original?

Mariah
Mariah
2 months ago

This one is the rammstein copy,

Efthymios
Efthymios
2 months ago

The jealous people that purposedly hate on this banger, calling it a circus entry, those exact individuals would want the Latvian pirates from 2008 to make a comeback if it was possible.

Stop comparing actually good songs (like Rim Tim Tagi Dim) with joke entries (like Dustin the turkey)

Nicolas
Nicolas
1 month ago
Reply to  Efthymios

Even Irlande 12 points was a better song.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Efthymios

In 2008 there were a lot of trash songs. Ireland, Latvia, Spain. Wow. We are going back to those years.

Efthymios
Efthymios
2 months ago

He will look much prettier than the mentioned city boys when he’ll be lifting that precious crystal microphone in Malmö.

Poul Riisen
Poul Riisen
2 months ago
Reply to  Efthymios

Haha, chill out man! 🙂

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago

Croatia are now second in the odds at 12%! Ukraine just dropped a litttle. Baby Lasagna MIGHT become the favourite for Eurovision 2024!

Poul Riisen
Poul Riisen
2 months ago

We have to wait for all songs to come out. You never know what the other 15+ countries will send. Also, then wait for the rehearsals. So far so good for Croatia. Definitely a contender for the win and I am not saying this often but it just gives winner vibes. All boxes are ticked!

Denis
Denis
2 months ago

Hmm, if juries is anything to go by then it will be a divided response across Europe. And this is a song that divides. Those who love it love it til death, but there also will be those that hate it. So I do not think it will be that universally loved.
Even Käärija and Loreen divided people and those two got most votes.

Alex
Alex
2 months ago

I love it, it is so catchy and the guy is giving Damiano David vibes but he needs to gain more confidence. Also please change the staging and the choreo. make it bigger and more folk.

I don’t like the massive sleeves of his outfits, they are quite distracting us from his beautiful face.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

I like them. They give the performance some bombastic energy and they are actually quite folk inspired

Jonas
Jonas
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

I like Baby L, but he does not compare to Damiano, at least not vocally.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

Please, leave Damiano David alone. It’s like comparing paper with gold. O my gosh. What my poor eyes have to read!

Kor
Kor
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Actually they do not have to… nobody is making you reading it, as nobody is making you to bashing this song, insulting artist behind and everyone that likes it…

Poul Riisen
Poul Riisen
2 months ago
Reply to  Alex

More like Achille Lauro (San Marino) vibes, haha. Otherwise, the song is great and is very catchy. They need to spend money on a professional team to direct and stage the whole thing and the win is very possible!

Jessica Folcker
Jessica Folcker
2 months ago

It’s fun and entertaining, but I’m not sure if I want my beloved Eurovision to become a synonym for funfair again… We’re getting dangerously close to Dustin The Turkey dark times…

LawnaDellPlay
LawnaDellPlay
2 months ago

I prefered Gasoline but baby lasagne is still sizzling enough

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago

The amount of hate in this thread is disturbing. Calm down guys! Any problems will be fixed for Eurovision! Also, you’re in the vocal minority here as Rim Tim Tagi Dim now has the least disliked videos out of all the Eurovision songs.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago

AND…………….??
Whats your point here>?

Enlighten us pumpkin.

Robert
Robert
2 months ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

That a lot of you are bitter hags here

Andrew
Andrew
2 months ago
Reply to  Robert

Hahaha so true

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

My exact point is in the above post here.

Pumpkin Enlightened.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago

Maybe I missed a serious point here on his comments.

My wrong. Im sorry.
Enlighten me my pumpkins, We are all in this soupe together.

Lets have diner at the same table after all.

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

Well I like soup, unlike most, so maybe this will work!

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
1 month ago

Those words are the voice of reason!!

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
1 month ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

I love pumpkin soupe btw…… ;-P

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago

The amount of hate. Question, is this a kind of democratic forum where all opinion counts provided those who don’t agree can just discharge their frustration by dowbvoting (just check the immediate next comment after this comment tree). Or do we have to avoid any critics for the sake of correctness? It’s a contest. You have to vote, so you express a judgement. If you don’t like a song, provided you give a reason for it, it is absolutely allowed to comment negatively. We are a democracy, no? Or some of you miss the famous democratic values of Putin?

The Voice of Reason
The Voice of Reason
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

So you’re comparing me to Putin? Wow, that’s interesting…I just wish people would be a bit more constructive rather than ‘I hate this’

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago

Where did I compare you to Putin? Oh my God. I start to think there are people here who are not able to understans a written text. I only said that saying a critic is hate doesn’t seem to me really democratic. Each one is free to write his opinion. The toxic fans can downvote the ones who doesn’t like Baby Lasagna. That’s it. But saying criticizing is hate is really exaggerating.

Jamie
Jamie
1 month ago

“The least disliked videos out of all the Eurovision songs”
like that means anything lmao. Poland got 1 million views in a day, is it winning yet?

Betty
Betty
2 months ago

This is really bad. How can this amateurish act be considered as a contender?

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Betty

Eurovision fandom is a parallel world built on trash. The more the trash, the more they feel satisfied. We head towards the mediocrity. Not the excellence.

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Then why do indulge yourself in the trash?

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

I like commenting those who like the trash. It’s refreshing. It makes me feel part of a elite. 🙂

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

That was pretty obvious. I guess it’s fun to be condescending and patronising. I’m similarly enjoying myself by challenging the elite to recognise some of the misery of their boredom.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Boredom? I am amusing myself a lot. Meanwhile I am also waiting for the result of the regional elections in Sardinia hoping the fascists loose.

I am used to follow the Italian politics from 35 years or more. Think if I am getting scared by this toxic fandom filling their empty lives here. They just survive thanks to the tons of trashy music they feed their ears. If you try to teach them to listen some good music they have a reject crises. Trashy music is the metadone of the junkies.

Michael
Michael
2 months ago

Well, I can’t see any difference between this song and Kaarija’s song last year. But I hope they should have inspired from it because at least Kaarija’s song had a good choreography, well written chorus.
This song is just bland; a song sang with irritating voice and strange circus costumes. I hope it would flop

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Michael

Don’t worry. Anybody providing a critic or negative comment is downvoted. We are obliged to like all songs. The unique thought and one opinion only is requested here if you want to be considered polite.

Ari
Ari
2 months ago
Reply to  Ari

Besides the gender thing, it’s just gonna be yet another songwriting camp song in English, if the article is correct. Not that I expected anything else.

Jonas
Jonas
2 months ago
Reply to  Ari

Interesting. I never had much respect for songwriting camps, but Teya and Selena made me rethink. It could be good. Stranger things have happened.

ESC Commentator
ESC Commentator
2 months ago

Well, that’s, unfortunately, the effect of last year’s Käärija’s success. Now many countries think that’s their way to win the contest. However, Finland’s entry was a masterpiece in comparison to the trashy entries from Finland, Estonia and Croatia this year. Both, Finland and Croatia, are sending a joke entry for a second year in a row… I have a flashback from early 2000s… fortunately we are having juries who are looking for better quality acts and won’t allow such cheap music to win!

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago

I agree with you. That’s what I wrote on many comments and I have been downvoted (don’t care to be downvoted, as I know not everybody understand or likes quality and prefers trash songs).

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago

Ok. Let’s play a game. Next year Italy will not choose Sanremo winner to send to Eurovision. It will be an internal selection. RAI will send the model/teacher/fitness addict Pietro Boselli plus other 5 handsome Italian men shirtless or in undies only, half naked, to make it short, reading for 3 minutes the recipe of the lasagna over the music of the Italian national anthem or any other silly music without any quality (or a dance tune). Technically it is a song as there is music and there are lyrics (the recipe of lasagna is much more interesting than the… Read more »

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Everyone is looking at the same things in a different way.

Isnt that wonderfull??
Whats quality?
Its if many people receive it
Very personal ofc.

ESC24 enjoy it.

Jo.
Jo.
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

let’s not

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

I feel sorry to read a comment filled with so much hatred in so many different forms. Elitism, sexism, homophobia and any other form of racism or discrimination don’t have place in a space such as Eurovision, that wants to celebrate diversity and inclusivity. Thank you for sharing your opinion, but we will continue enjoying what we choose.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

For your information, I am gay. So you will never get an homophobic comment from me.

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Someone can be gay and homophobic at the same time. And I didn’t say anything about you, I just said that I read a comment that strikes some discriminatory chords, including homophobia among other things.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Ahahha. You are funny. You have a strange concept on homophobia. But I don’t reply further. It is really time lost.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Anyway, still, I don’t find where I expressed hatred, or sexism, or homophobia. Is it a crime to say a bunch of shirtless men can be attractive to female and gay men (and, sometimes, also to straight men in terms of emulation or admiration for the fit body). Where is hatred in this? Why do I have to feel offended if, in case I would be a lady, more than the middle aged gay man I am, somebody tells me I find a bunch of fit men attractive? I believe you push too much your misplaced critics in order to… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

You literally said that “Everybody will vote for Italy because of the wonderful abs, six pack, chest, eyes and face of the 6 men on stage” particularly naming gay men and women. It is one thing to say that they’ll find them attractive, and another to suggest that their taste in music will be determined by their gender or sexual orientation. That sounds not only condescending but pretty much sexist and homophobic to me.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
1 month ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Touchée

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Concerning your other comments, I didn’t insult anybody. I don’t think it is an insult saying everybody would love to vote a group of 6 shirtless handome men singing (badly) nonsenses. I am the first appreciating the 6 handsome men, I am gay, as I said. But I would still not vote for them if their nude chest is the only quality thing they have to offer. It’s the Eurovision SONG Contest, The Most Beautiful European Men Contest. That’s how I feel when I hear some joke entries from 2023 and 2024. If Eurovision must be the championships of circus… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

I didn’t perceive your comments as insults. I am also gay and I wouldn’t vote for a song just because it’s sung by handsome or half naked men. It saddens me though reading a comment that deducts this kind of thinking process, because it classifies people and their tastes according to generalising perceptions.
We are all different individuals and we don’t have to like the same things. I respect your opinion about what you like and what you don’t, but I don’t feel that I need to be indoctrinated about my preferences in music.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

I don’t want to indoctrinate anybody. I just wrote my comment on the song explaining why I don’t like it, as I didn’t like Croatia 2023 and Finland 2023. I’m not making discriminations. Then somebody writes I wrote an homophobic comment just because I wrote somebody may vote for an all male shirtless act disregardless of quality of the song. Each one considers music differently. One prefers dancs music as they use the music to dance over it. I don’t dance so I don’t care about it. I just prefer a song contest is won by a song having a… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

I’m perplexed with you saying that “I don’t want to indoctrinate anybody” when you also say that “I just prefer a song contest is won by a song having a decent amount of quality attached to it.” You’re literally prescribing that only want songs that you define as “quality” to win. I don’t really understand how this works in your mind. It’s fine to have an opinion and like something but why is it so wrong that others might have different taste? And why do you need to put labels everywhere? Iceland 2019 “trash”? Really?

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

You really don’t understand me, but i believe you do it expressely. I wrote that I liked Iceland 2019. Where did I write I considered Iceland 2019 as trash? I am not the only one who says a song has a quality. We will see what will be the vote of the juries. But if the Eurovision song contest will become the kingdom of songs like the one discussed in this thread, I will probably stop to watch it. It is not my fault if my age is different thab yours and I’be been trained to hunt for the quality,… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

I laugh so hard at gaslighting when I can simply copy and paste your previous answers: “For info I loved Iceland 2019. At least they were trying to sing and the song had a meaning. So I sometimes like trash, too.” I’m 42, so younger than you but I guess much older than your boyfriend, but as you said age is irrelevant (although your comments do contain a patronising element towards the younger which I choose to ignore). You have every right to express your opinions, but be ready to be challenged for them and stop reserving to the easy… Read more »

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Ah, yes. You are right. I had to enclose the word trash in this way: “trash”. I wrote it ironically. Absolutely. Fyi, I am 56 and my boyfriend is 20. No, I am not his sugar daddy even though he is still an highschool student. We are together from one year. He let me know Lana del Rey and we went to a concert in Tuscany together the first month we met, plus other singers. On the opposite, I made him listen to a lot of different musician and singers. From Vangelis, to Jean Michel Jarre, Mike Oldfield, progressive rock,… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

You already said that age is irrelevant and I agreed with that. I don’t think I said that you’re not open-minded. My problem, as explained already, is that your comments contain a certain amount of a tendency to “educate” the younger about “quality” which I think is completely unnecessary. If you’re open-minded you should be in the position to accept that everyone can have an opinion and this should be respected, without categorising it. I can recognise good music, good singing voices and good lyrics, but as I already said again music is -for me- more than technical skills. I… Read more »

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Additionally, why Sanremo has launched a bunch of singers and quality songs from ages? Singers like Ricchi e Poveri, Domenico Modugno, Matia Bazar, Milva, Mina, Eros Ramazzotti, Giorgia, Elisa, and the most recent Måneskin, Diodato, Annalisa, Elodie that you all praise. And for the songs, Non ho l’età, Nel Blu Dipinto di Blu, Gente di Mare, Insieme 1992, etc etc. Songs which are known worldwide. From Europe, to Russia, to South America, to even Japan, China and Australia. Because of the quality of the singers, the authors, the lyricist, the composers, etc. And because it is a competition based on… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Thank you for the invitation. I know quite a few things about Italian music don’t worry, but that’s because I’m Greek. Most of the artists you mentioned are unknown in North Europe. Sanremo is just the representation of the music industry and the culture of one single country. And sure it’s a rich one but Eurovision manages to combine that of 40 different ones. I might be younger but I’ll say one thing. Be more inclusive, Europe is wonderful in its diversity. Have a great evening. 🙂

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Yeah, but we all know politics from Northern Europe considers southern Europe countries like north africa. You as a Greek you should know. Remember some countries saying better Greece was leaving EU. Or stopping giving you money? They think the same of Italy and Spain. They say we don’t work and only think to girls, cars and having fun. Or that we want to steal their money. Sometimes also people think the same. Hopefully a lot of Nordics are more open, and love Sourhern Europeans, come here for vacation and love italian music. Sometimes they also gave Italy 10 points.… Read more »

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
1 month ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Its like Im saying that I dont like eating cheese, whilst Vincenzo does and blaming me that I dont have any taste!!

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Fizzpunk

Honey, I am able to be tolerant with the differences. But here we are talking of legitimate and not personal aspects. If one sings badly everybody can understand it. It’s not like personal tastes in cheese.

Darco
Darco
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Define “joke entry” please ? With few examples from the past if you can. Thank you

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Darco

Well, a joke entry was Verka Serducka. The 2008 has been full of joke entries. Latvia, spain and ireland. Russia 2012 with the baking nannies. Etc. Considering the wave of similar songs, we risk that if Karjaa arrived second, Croatia 2024 will be high on the final score, either winning it or arriving second or third, the risk is a 2008 effect where a lot more countries will bring the same mess on stage.

Andrew
Andrew
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Dude get a life

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
1 month ago
Reply to  Andrew

I have a life. I play the synth, I watch films, etc. ? But I also like to comment the eurovision. Being one following it from late seventies. I odn’t pretend my taste is the same as all of you here, considering we have 20 to 30 years difference.

Span
Span
2 months ago

People actually think this can win? Juries will rank it bottom 5

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Span

Same as happened in Liverpool 2023 with the guys in panties from Croatia. But probably Croatia didn’t learn the lesson. I much preferred, at the moment Croatia 2022. It was a nice dancy song.

Stephanie
Stephanie
2 months ago

I hated Croatia’s song last year! This…I kinda like it.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago

What is missing in the Eurovision community is taste and musical education. Capability to detect quality. I am more and more convinced the televote shall be largely reduced. Like in Sanremo, for example. Only 33%.

Andrew
Andrew
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Do enlighten us with what you consider to be a musical education

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Andrew

Musica education is when you understand the quality of the singer, of the lyrics, of the composition. We all have studied music somewhere at school. They have taught us classical, rock legends, Beatles, etc. We should all be able to detect when a music has quality. This song has not. It’s only to create a following with the meow cat lyrics, the dresses etc. He is not a decent singer. He doesn’t sing but talks throughout all the verses. The lyrics are silly. Gimmicks only.

Nicolas
Nicolas
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

This was expected to have more and more fake singers who can’t sing live when they allowed pre-recorded vocals.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas

That’s the problem of this Swedish driven Eurovision Song Contest. They want to made it into an international event, and, as participation fees increases to crazy levels, they try, on the other side, to compensate the costs for the delegations by making not mandatory to have real human backup voices on stage. They increase the fees to participate to crazy levels, so that many countries cannot attend anymore (very democratic). They exploited the required precautions due to covid, such as reduce the people required in the delegations, but are keeping thise unnecessarily. This is because SVT and Martin Oesterdahl (who… Read more »

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Wise words and never forget WATERLOO 2024!!

Ari
Ari
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

A part of me thinks they secretly loved the pandemic situation. They kept the special rules which they claimed were necessary because of the pandemic. Kinda says it all.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Ari

I believe the EBU is growing greedier. Or maybe it’s only Martin Oesterdahl who, having failed with Asian and American song contest, thinks he can drive the European song contest as a worldwide event. That’s why they opened the voting to the rest of the world.

Jo.
Jo.
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

I did not study music at school. My school was poor and we only had one chair for 35 students.

Andrew
Andrew
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Beatles were sh*t

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

“lets go, lets GOOOO”
Avada Kedavra,

Before the party is over my Lovely!!

Very happy with this years edition.
Its refreshening the creativity.

some call it circus.
But hey CIRCUS is back in town.

and I dont take no for an answer.

Enjoy the ride.

Itchymonkey
Itchymonkey
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Vincenzo yiu seem Italian by name.
I’ll leave you on one statement. This is the Eurovision not a night at the opera.
It’s fun, crazy and party.
If you want la traviata you know where the opera house is

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Itchymonkey

You are right. But there must be quality music everywhere. When I need for an opera I watch the prima of the Scala on Rai1 the 7th of december. But as I love also other types of music, I have the right to pretend at least a minimum level of quality in a song winning a competition. If there is a wavez started by Kaarja last year of trash songs for the next 10 years brought by countries who feel desperate to not win from ages, I am sure the contest will not increase in popularity. Let’s remember the early… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Again you’re ignoring the blatant fact that Eurovision became so unpopular not in the 2000s, but in the 90s, and not outside but even within Europe! And the reason was that the juries couldn’t keep up with the changes in the music industry. The biggest hit from the 1996 contest for example was UK’s entry by Gina G that finished only 8th. Televoting revived Eurovision. Sure it ended becoming an overkill, and things were going really downhill between 2004 and 2008, but I guarantee you that if you want only juries to decide for the winner we’ll go back to… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

The 1990s were some of the best contests in my opinion, songs, staging, hosts, intervals etc. I was agreeing with you up to now! Part of the decline in popularity, if there was one, could have been because of the language rule.

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Jonas

Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoyed the 90s. Especially the 1996 contest. Great host, nice songs and good show. 1992, 1994 and 1997 were also good. “Nocturne”, “The Voice” and “Love Shine a Light” are in my personal Top 15 of ESC winners. But. The competition started becoming irrelevant to a worrying degree. And I don’t think it was just the language rule. Imho it was a combination of different factors but the amount of ballads made the show less and less enjoyable, when the evolution of music industry was introducing a plethora of new sounds to the general… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

I was just a child under ten, but the 1990s contests are the ones that cast the spell over me. Without Danijela, I might not even be posting here today.

Damn her, I hear you cry.

Jonas
Jonas
2 months ago
Reply to  Jonas

A healthy mix is really what we need, something to satisfy everyone. 2000s were the dark days for me, I but I actually think we are at a nice balance right now. The sky is not falling in just because of Baby Lasagna.

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Jonas

We also have the tendency to idealise the memories of our childhood. I was 10 when I watched ESC for the first time in 1992. There are some really beautiful memories from those days. But. Music is changing and I’m glad that ESC decided to follow by introducing televoting. Also. The so called “circus entries” are not a new thing and not even circus imho (with some exceptions of course, ie Dustin the Turkey or again imo windows95man for example). There were some quite terrible entries in the 80s for example and although I haven’t watched those contests live I… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

I definitely am overly nostalgic, even for contests I wasn’t even alive for. You are right, it’s always hard for the present to compete with mists of the past.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

I said we must do something like Sanremo. 34% televote. 33% people who listens to music, selected randomly between the OGAE subscribers, and 33% juries.

This would be better than the actual split 50% televote and 50% juries which are geographically biased and exchange votes between neighbours.

Having the vote split in 3 makes it more difficult for the televoters to push for a trashy song, or for the juries to sink a song.

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

I don’t trust OGAE. For many reasons. Demoscopic juries would be much better and I’ve been campaigning for that for the last 2 years. I wouldn’t also reduce televoting below 40%. It has served a certain amount of popularity that the juries will never achieve. Also the changes of European socioeconomic demographics in the last decade have significantly reduced the influence of diaspora voting that was a problem in the 00s. You’re also being quite misguided when you expect that national professional juries have better criteria. They just have different criteria and as you mentioned they are often worse in… Read more »

Betty
Betty
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

You’re right. Except for a few songs (Italy, France, Norway, Belgium…) the quality is sub-par. We need less circus acts, and more decent songs.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Betty

Thank you. That’s what I think. That’s why, songwise, except some particular Eurovision years where the trash is limited to one or two entries maximum, I prefer more and more Sanremo than Eurovision. And also Italians watch Sanremo with an audience of 15 or 16 million people while around 8 millions watched the italian eurovision final in Turin (the highest recent audience).

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago

Hopefully the juries will place this song where it belongs. Below the 5th position.

Johny
Johny
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Why so much hate? I can understand one negative comment, everyone has different tastes but you left several negative comments, some of them full of vitriol. What is your problem? And please, do not hide behind what you have written in your comment, this is deeper and more personal and way more disturbing.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Johny

From when expressing a personal opinion is hate? I circumstantiate my critics. And I am not the only one criticizing this winning song.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Johny

Additionally, I didn’t write this song is bottom 5. I only said for me it is not a song who can deserve the top 5 positions. Full stop.

Frederick
Frederick
2 months ago

I saw one comment which was interesting about this song:
“Kaarija’s song delivered by Aliexpress” 🙂

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Frederick

Karjaa song was delivered by Aliexpress. This one is deliveref by Shein or Temu.

Frederick
Frederick
2 months ago

Last year, Finland’s entrant and Slovenia’s entrant were good friends. Seems that for this year Croatia, rather than Slovenia preferred to inspire from Kaarija ? sending quite a similar song to Kaarija’s song in terms of the style but with a bit bad vocals.

Imitations keep the original alive.

Bandido
Bandido
2 months ago
Reply to  Frederick

True! That’s why call it rather Käärijä support act, even don’t see any copying or similarities in the song, except both inspirated from Rammstein.

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago

Finals in easy reach.
Top 15 there I guess .

Congrats Croatia.
Enjoy the ride.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago

Shameful song. No quality. He doesn’t even sing. But, for most part of the Eurovision fans, this is the stupid song they want each year, no matter which quality it or the singer has.

James
James
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Agree; seems that trash songs are liked by the audience and it is good that juries exist in the contest, although sometimes juries might also rank songs in a wrong way.

Andrew
Andrew
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

I think you’re lacking in a bit of Eurovision spirit

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Andrew

Some people 50 years after Waterloo are still Making their Minds UP!!

Ein bißchen Friede and Love shine a Light would be a blessing isnt it?
Lets go, lets GOOOO”
Avada Kedavra,

Before the party is over
Enjoy the ride.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Andrew

If the Eurovision spirit is just to accept whatever song disregardeless of quality, yes, I lack a bit of Eurovision spirit. Let’s stop call it SONG contest but let’s call it CIRCUS, or PERFORMANCE contest, or European Got Talent or whatever you want. For me a song is singing capabilities, quality of the lyrics, etc. If all these lack, sorry, but for me it’s a no.

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Let’s talk about the runner up of this year’s Sanremo then. I’m curious to hear your opinion about Geolier’s song, his singing capabilities, quality of the lyrics of “I p’me, tu p’te” and how he managed to get 60% of the televoting.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

I didn’t like that song either. Just go read my comments on the live here on Wiwibloggs. Hopefully the juries corrected the mass of Napolitans spending 500 euros to purchase various SIM cards to vote massively. My quest for quality is total. I don’t act differently on Sanremo or Eurovision. Let’s think Croatia would win. Will it be a song having the same worldwide success as Waterloo, Zitti e Buoni, Soldi, Celine Dion, Fairytale, Arcade, etc? I don’t think so. Having Eurovision stepping back to the bad old habits of the first years 2000 where some random crazy songs were… Read more »

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

“Lets open die Mosh pitt!!”

Avada Kedavra,
“Rim Tim Tagi Dim”
ESC24.
Enjoy.

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

So if I understand well your problem is people’s taste, not Eurovision itself. If Sanremo had the same voting system like Eurovision, Geolier would have won and correct me if I’m wrong. I’m concerned when I read comments that suggest superiority of taste based on perceived quality. I’ve been following Eurovision since the early 90s. I’ve seen the contest with both 100% juries and 100% televoting. I can’t name many songs that lasted through time in both of those decades. “Fairytale”, “Arcade”, “Zitti e buoni”, that you mentioned or even “Amar pelos dois” if you want something different, all won… Read more »

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Strangely the songs who got more success recently were all quality songs. None of the so called “circus acts” who won were ever acknowledge outside of the restricted group of Eurovision fans who love trash better than quality songs. When a song like the Croatian of 2023 or 2024 will win Eurovision and will become an international hit like those I mentioned before, we will talk about it. Hopefully EBU is pushing to make Eurovision more recognized at world level (to a certain extent it is good Eurovision hits become successfully worldwide in order to increase the record/streaming sales and… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

I don’t perceive “Rim Tim Tagi Dim” as a joke entry or a “circus act”. It is fun, yes I agree, but it’s still dealing with a serious issue, just taking a more light approach, which is fine with me. I understand that you don’t like the song, but I’m still trying to figure out what your problem is with those who like the song to the degree that you have to call them “childish” and “dumb”. I initially thought that your criticism was that the song is “too simple”, so I’m a bit lost in your critique. Does simple… Read more »

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Did I write childish and dumb somewhere? Please indicate me in which comment. May I tell you that for me a singer must have a good voice? Sing without autotune (this is not the case, but just to let you know), have a decent vocal extension, sing, not talk? If in this world everybody goes to Eurovision to sing, even those who doesn’t have the required skills … For example, yes, I am Italian so I can easier make examples referring to italian acts. In terms of vocal capabilities, extension etc, last year Marco Mengoni deserved to be second, not… Read more »

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

My problem is both eurovision and people taste. If people taste always vote for songs like these ones, sorry to say, probably Eurovision Song Contest would have died from longtime. Do you think broadcasters are happy to spend a lot of money to subscribe to Eurovision to send a song which would never win, knowing juries would never vote for it? Now we are on the Karjaa trend so evertbody is sending clones of Karjaa (Finland and Croatia) for two years. That’s why the juries will focus on voting the next best song to avoid one between Finland and Croatia… Read more »

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

So if your problem is people’s taste, your problem with Eurovision is the power of public vote. Because you also have a problem with Italians voting for Geolier in Sanremo, but you’re clearly happy that the system there didn’t allow him to win. If that’s the case then what I understand you prefer is that only juries vote in Eurovision because they can recognise “quality”. So can you explain to me why you cannot name any winners from the 90s that became popular and successful? Because there’s definitely a contradiction there.

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Well, i may not recall all the winning acts from the period 1990-1991, but you really try to test me in this argument, which I perfectly know, as I watch eurovision from the late seventids. I mostly remember best the italian acts of that era and partially because Italy withdrew in 1997 (Jalisse) and didn’t participate in all those Eurovisions from the nineties. But I perfectly remember, Insieme 1992 sung by Toto Cotugno in 1990, held in Zagreb in the ex Jugoslavia. That was actually a hit in Europe and entered the charts in many european charts as Toto Cotugno… Read more »

Vincenzo
Vincenzo
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

The period is 1990-1999 of course.

ThorBeta
ThorBeta
2 months ago
Reply to  Vincenzo

Btw Dana International won in 1998 which was literally the first year when televoting was introduced and I don’t think she would have won with juries. 🙂 Of course a few good songs were there in every decade but as I explained in other comments popularity of Eurovision declined significantly in the 90s. Which was one of the reasons that Italy withdrew after 1997. Anyway, what I’m trying to say is that the problem isn’t people’s taste. Bad and average or forgettable songs have entered or even won the contest before televoting was introduced. Let people have their opinions and… Read more »

Samah.ex
Samah.ex
1 month ago
Reply to  ThorBeta

Don’t compare Geolier’s situation to Baby Lasagna’s, two different problems.

cheder
cheder
2 months ago

Looks and sounds like a Kaarija tribute show.

Marian
2 months ago

He’s not the devil, man! Ha, ha, ha!

Fizzpunk
Fizzpunk
2 months ago

Nice seeing the croation entry for ESC24 is getting so much reactions here on Wiwi.
Lets talk Eurovision!!