Photo: Alma Bengtsson / EBU

It was one of the big dramas of Eurovision 2024 in Malmö: Dutch artist Joost Klein being disqualified from the final after an incident backstage where he was accused of threatening a photographer.

The reasoning from the EBU at the time was, that given the circumstances of what occurred and the fact that the police case would be handed to the prosecutor, it would not have been appropriate for Joost to participate in the Grand Final. This according to the statement released on the date of the Eurovision final.

But now the Public Prosecutor’s Office in Malmö has announced that it is closing the preliminary investigation.

– Today I have closed the investigation because I cannot prove that the act was capable of causing serious fear or that the man had any such intention

Senior prosecutor Fredrik Jönsson

The senior prosecutor elaborated to Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet:

“It was confirmed that there had been a movement towards the film camera by the accused and that the movement hit the film camera, but for it to be an unlawful threat I would have to assume, that his intention with that action was to induce serious fear towards or simply threaten her. Based on the situation, which was a quick sequence of events in a special situation, I cannot sufficiently prove that he did it to threaten her. I can’t conclude anything other than the intention was to influence the filming, he simply didn’t want to be filmed.”

According to Aftonbladet’s information, Joost Klein admitted after the incident that he lunged at the photographer with his fist. On his way away from the area, according to people on the scene backstage, he had expressed a lot of remorse of what happened and apologized several times. The photographer in question was said to have been shocked by the incident and was offered support afterwards.

The disqualification caused a lot of disturbance amongst the Dutch delegation and fans, and as of now the Netherlands aren’t sure they will participate in Eurovision 2025 in Switzerland.

Avrotros enters talks with the EBU regarding disqualification

“Until Avrotros is convinced that structural changes will be made to refocus on the artists and their musical message, we will continue to consider our participation in Eurovision.” Those were the words of Dutch public service channel Avrotros in a statement in June. Now Avrotros will enter into discussions with the EBU regarding Joost Klein’s disqualification, according to Dutch TV channel RTL.

“We have also just learned that the criminal investigation against Joost Klein by the Swedish Public Prosecution Service has been discontinued because there is no evidence of criminal conduct,” Avrotros wrote in a statement. “From the beginning we have said that this disqualification was unnecessary and disproportionate and that is now what it appears to be.”

Avrotros says it is ‘deeply disappointed’ that the Europapa adventure of Joost Klein and the whole of the Netherlands ‘was ended in this brutal way’. The next step is therefore the conversation between the broadcaster and the EBU.

That conversation will mainly focus on ‘this unjustified disqualification’: “We will also discuss all our other objections about the way things are going behind the scenes at the song festival, which we previously sent to the EBU in an extensive letter of objection and which have remained unanswered to date. Avrotros’ position is and remains that the song contest is about artists and their musical message. The EBU now has the floor,” says the Dutch broadcaster.

EBU says new developement isn’t impacting their decision to disqualify

The EBU issued a statement later Monday afternoon, in which Jean Philip De Tender, EBU Deputy Director General and Director of Media said: 

“The EBU aims to ensure the Eurovision Song Contest is a show for everyone and is a safe place for staff, artists, guests and fans.

Like all responsible employers, we do not tolerate inappropriate behaviour and will always respond to any workplace issues that are reported to us.

The decision to disqualify Mr Klein from this year’s event was made in strict accordance with Eurovision Song Contest (ESC) rules and governance procedures, after an internal investigation.

In parallel, Swedish police decided to open a formal investigation into the conduct of Mr Klein during the dress rehearsal, which we understand was closed today without further action.

This was an investigation into whether a criminal act was committed and not whether Mr Klein behaved inappropriately and breached ESC rules and procedures. This new development therefore does not have any impact on our decision which we stand by completely.”

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ñera con ñero
ñera con ñero
6 months ago

I support Israel but wth does it have to do with the post? don’t be annoying!

Mary
Mary
6 months ago

Hi William, can you please close the reaction possibility for posts about Israël and/or Joost? It’s so toxic. Please consider this

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago

This has nothing to do with Eurovision, stop using Eurovision as a propaganda tool, or ESC 2025 is ruined before it begins.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago

Joost is gonna file charges against the EBU, bringing them to court

serve some Joostice, King!

make the EBU pay so much they have to raise participation fees a lot

Barry
Barry
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

What’s your problem? You wanted to get rid of Joost and The Netherlands anyway.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Barry

no? i’d love an easy win for Netherlands, we all love predictable winners anyway

Misha
7 months ago

: I can see 2 scenarios: Or NL withdraws, or sends Joost again and the EBU makes him win (by the way, now it’s clear that his DQ was so unfair)

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Misha

rather a withdrawal than a predictable trash winner

John
John
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Trash?you mean the swedish entrys.When you hear one you heard them all.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  John

sweden provides quality to the contest, swedish music industry is world’s best music industry, proven facts

Jofty
Jofty
7 months ago
Reply to  Misha

Or he could represent Israel

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Jofty

Israel need Balkan Beat Box in Geneva honestly, those guys are top 3 potential for my ranking with the right fun song

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago

I’m worried, if the EBU doesn’t apologise and refuses to admit mistakes, the socials will be bombed again by Joost fans and people who are against the war in Gaza. ***** drama loading….

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Bettie

Will happen anyway. And has nothing to do with Joost. The only way to stop this happening is Israël not participating.

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  UK Chick

Ehm, I am not from the UK 🙂

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  UK Chick

And you don’t know my opinion about Falklands.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Bettie

wishful thinking

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago

I am glad Marco spoke about the things going on during the Eurovision Song Contest week. He is totally right.

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

Oh, so you dislike him now? What kind of hyorcites are you?

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

*hypocrites

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

For sure! He is in Team Joost, he is a good and smart guy <3

yaremturkiye
yaremturkiye
7 months ago

Joostice has been served

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  yaremturkiye

if Netherlands decide to participate and send Joost again, for a easy win then joostice will more be served

receiving 610 points from the televoters

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago

EBU needs to be more precise, what rules and what procedures? Kleins DQ was very ad-hoc, so when did they investigate it? And who investigated it? Was it an independent investigation? They keep accusing Joost even now the police says they can’t proof he did anything wrong. Is it this defamation or slander by the EBU? their silence causes so many questions.

Sal
Sal
7 months ago

Doesn’t make any difference to the DQ though, Joost was still under police investigation at the time of the final which was the basis for the DQ. The EBU aren’t experts in Swedish law or able to predict the future and understandably did not want an individual who was under police investigation performing at their contest regardless of what the outcome might or might not have been. This just goes to show that participants should control and behave themselves and treat everyone much better in the future in order to avoid the risk of this happening again. Regarding the Netherlands… Read more »

sTommie
sTommie
7 months ago
Reply to  Sal

And Israel is the country that thinks it is appropriate to bomb hospitals and schools full of children. So what is your point?

Cassette
Cassette
7 months ago
Reply to  sTommie

The point is your lot were insufferable in Malmo and hijacked the contest with your bullshyte!

Erik
Erik
7 months ago
Reply to  sTommie

Argument is invalid. The state of Israel could have defended themselves. They could have been the good guy. If someone shoots rockets from schools hospital etc. that doesn’t matter. It’s still a war crime to attack schools, hospitals and refugee camps. A part that does the same bad stuff as a terrorist organisation should be held responsible for their actions. It’s not ok to treat captives in bad manner. It’s not ok to deliberately starve people. What Israel has done since a year back is so horrible I cannot describe my feelings. It’s inhumane. And they spit hostages families in… Read more »

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Sal

I think the police investigation started after the DQ, not before. The photographer filed a complaint after the DQ nog before.

Sun
Sun
7 months ago

And they still justify the thousands of murdered children and women. What kind of human beings can still justify this? DISGUSTING

David Damen
David Damen
7 months ago

Imo they are all as childish as each other they all need to grow up and just sing their songs

Boo
Boo
7 months ago

When is Avrotros going to start legal action against EBU?

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Boo

They wrote a letter to the EBU because they think changes are necessary but did not receive an answer. We will see.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Boo

legal action, hmmm well EBU’s answer be like, we’ll kick out the Netherlands, making them ineligible to participate, same what they did to Belarus

Kos
Kos
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Avrotros and Joost Klein send their regards, take a hide egocentric

Martin (fixed-a-lot) Österdahl
Martin (fixed-a-lot) Österdahl
7 months ago

OK guys, let me explain how this whole ESC “magic” works. Let’s take the ESC 2023 for example. The chief of SVT came to me the one day, and said: “Martin, we are saving our money for the ESC since 2016, please let Loreen win so we can host another ESC in Sweden”. So as a fellow swedish citizen I said: “OK, buy me the newest VOLVO sports car and a huge box of Surströmming and I let you win”. Of course, because Käärijä would be the clear winner I had to fix the “official” final results. This is only… Read more »

Jofty
Jofty
7 months ago

There is only so much Swiss cheese and chocolate you can eat

Cassette
Cassette
7 months ago

The fact the EBU let Israel get away with so much this year and they punished Joost is abhorrent. They should rename the contest The Israeli Song Contest because that’s what it feels like.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Cassette

Israel did nothing though, Baby Lasagna opened up who actually were being troublemakers, it were Bambie Thug

Kruu
Kruu
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Fake news. Marko only said that he heard Bambie screaming, not necessarily being a troublemaker.

Jofty
Jofty
7 months ago
Reply to  Kruu

Was that during their performance?

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Kruu

I heard that Marko was very clearly in team Bambi, Nemo and Joost. He just decided to be less vocal about it as it is not in his character. Cannot confirm it though, so I will not present it as the truth here. So don’t ask me for a link.

Still waiting for yours! 🙂

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Could you please send me the link to Baby Lasagna’s statement?

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  UK Chick

Baby Lasagna said the israeli delegation were very nice, polite in Malmo

they did nothing wrong

but they were mainly accused by the dutch delegation of provocative behaviour

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Link please.

Alex
Alex
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Bambie Thug and Baby Lasagna did nothing though.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Check the videos they made

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Bettie

Which videos?

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  UK Chick

For instance the one in which they intimidate the Dutch delegation when they had to leave the competition.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Bettie

oh boo hoo, the dutchies were too triggered LOL

four eyed loser Joost, retire your ”music” career asap

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Just tried to get a ticket for his shows in the US. All sold out. He would be crazy to retire :).

esc_fl
esc_fl
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

KAN was filming many participants without permission and harassing journalists. The commentators were very rude during the shows. Before Ukraine performed they said “looks like the war isn’t causing excitement for the public anymore so they have to send good songs now.” Before Ireland performed they called for booing and hate speech.

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago

Klein could also offer us more details than “tHeRe Is No CaSe!!”. If he has nothing to hide he will tell us every detail of the incident that got him disqualified.

Barry
Barry
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

It doesn’t matter, people like you and Anonymous91 will never believe his story. In fact you would make ‘fun’ of it every day again.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Barry

Netherlands deserve to be forever gone from our wonderful contest, another evil country we managed to get rid of, same as Hungary, Turkiye, Russia, Belarus

no more generic dutch entries in our ESC, amazing news that would be

Basti
Basti
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

People like you are the reason Aliens avoid us ?

Barry
Barry
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

The country that gave you Eurovision 2021. So ungrateful.

Mary
Mary
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Sometimes you’re playing to be Dutch and sometimes it looks like you’re participating in the EBU yourself. For a troll you’re not a very smart one. So get lost and take a real job.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

our?

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Bettie

yes our esc, not the dull trash netherlands

Gerry
Gerry
7 months ago
Reply to  Barry

As long as Moroccan oil is the sponsor there will be no change. They are the ebu”s AIPAC. Music washing. I won’t be watching.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

He gave all necessary details to the police that’s enough. Some less intelligent people prefer to believe speculations in the media and EBU’s framing, I feel sorry for them.

Denis
Denis
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

Well he is right. The police said there is no case since there is not enough proof the lady was in actual harm. Whatever evidence was gathered was not enough to build a case.
Joost has every right not to tell anybody what happened, it is nobodys business

Mary
Mary
7 months ago
Reply to  Denis

You’re completely right.

Mary
Mary
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

You have a double standard. According to you Joost should give more details about the incident and the EBU doesn’t need to. Yeah right.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

He already did to the police joni.

Denis
Denis
7 months ago

I think what this shows is that EBU is also capable of errors, they are not flawless. They make errors like everybody else, no better than the average person or organisation. Hopefully they can do what everybody else is doing, knowing you did wrong, why it was wrong and learn from it for next time. Other wise no one will trust them

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Denis

Totally agree, but if you make a mistake you need to have the grace to admit to it. They obviously aren’t.

Denis
Denis
7 months ago
Reply to  UK Chick

Yes. I agree. That is the first step but they have yet to acknowledge

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Denis

The problem is they blame others for their errors, and they don’t take any possibility at all.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Bettie

Responsibility;-)

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago

Avrotros and Klein act pathetic.

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

Why?

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  UK Chick

I don’t know why, ask them.

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

It is your statement. Why are you of the opinion that they are pathetic?

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

There is a lot of money involved, probably over 500.000 euro’s’. Why pathetic? What if it was your money?

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  Bettie

Eurovision is not about money.

Barry
Barry
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

Why do they need sponsors?

Mary
Mary
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

Pfffff, you still believe in fairy tails

Seddik
Seddik
7 months ago
Reply to  Bettie

Probably way more than 500,000. That’s just the costs of participation. But the Dutch broadcaster missed a lot of ad revenue, because that is based on number of viewers and millions of Dutch people boycotted the final.

Mary
Mary
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

You do yourself Jonny

esc_fl
esc_fl
7 months ago

The EBU better be releasing the exact details about the investigation now that the case has been closed. Seems like it’s the appropriate time now.

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  esc_fl

Why should they? There are personal rights to take care of.

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

Because they need to justify their actions. And they can do so without naming names.

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  Fatima

They don’t have to “justify their actions”. If you are not able handle this stay away from Eurovision.

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

They don’t have to Jonny, but it would help. They must have had their reasons, but all we’ve been told is that he broke contest rules. Which rules? In what way? I’m just asking questions.

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  Fatima

You may ask them. And the EBU may ignore them and they have every right to do so.

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

I’m not arguing with you Jonny, nor am I a fan of ‘Europapa’. But if the EBU gave its side of the story in full, it may put an end to at least some of the rancour we’ve been seeing for months. The EBU ignoring discontent had helped cause that.

Barry
Barry
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

The right to ignore the rules. You and other Joost haters are so pathetic.

Fred
Fred
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

Jij werkt duidelijk voor EBU. Smerige praktijken goedpraten.

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  esc_fl

Exactly. And they will do if they have nothing to hide.

OlivierPoke
OlivierPoke
7 months ago

The ESC is a very complex contest with a lot of conflicting needs. This statement from the EBU joins many previous mistakes showing the EBU is not capable of dealing with such complex needs. I watch the ESC because I want music entertainment, not political or legal drama. The current EBU team is not able to deliver one without the other. I don’t know why I should be watching next year unless they take responsibility and make changes

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  OlivierPoke

Does “make changes” mean anything else to you than “ban Israel”?

Azuro
Azuro
7 months ago
Reply to  OlivierPoke

It was netherlands, Ireland, Greece etc that brought politics to eurovision.

Notice the olympjcs israel competed no drama.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Azuro

Bad comparison, the Israeli government did not try to influence the results, Israeli atletes did not harrass other atletes, and they did not use the Olympics as propoganda.

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Azuro

Yes, I have to agree that Israël behaved a lot better at the Olympics. They were not accusing the athletes who beat them that they were anti semitic, they did not push supporters of Palestinians out of the way, and nobody was disqualified because of them. Also, they could not influence the outcome, so they only ended on 41st place in the medal table.

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago

Why are so many of us pretending we knew what actually happened? We don’t. What we do know, is that the EBU regarded it the moment to be enough for Klein to be disqualified. Which would have been the very last thing the would have wanted to do to a fan favourite on top of all the other issues they were facing on the eve of the contest.

Andon
Andon
7 months ago

EBU: ‘we do not tolerate inappropriate behaviour’….. Unless you are the israeli deligation, I suppose

Darren
Darren
7 months ago
Reply to  Andon

Facts

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago

also bit rich we go defending someone controversial like Joost now, while most here were pure toxic to Malta’s Emma Muscat back in 2022

but honestly, i am still loyal to my self-love queen, and for the third time in a row sis is getting my 12p at the esctop250 list for this year

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago

Joost ”Moron Face” Klein, look at the moronic expression from the loser in the picture of this article lmao

Barry
Barry
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

When you don’t have arguments…

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Keyboard knights.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Are you looking in the mirror?

Kruu
Kruu
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Poor you projecting your insecurities. You’re a no good loser.

Kos
Kos
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Show us your face so we can decide who’s moron here , egocentric

Christobal
Christobal
7 months ago

First of all, Nemo is a great person and had a very good song and I think he deserved the win. But if Joost had the chance to compete, who knows who would be the winner ? But imagine the following: There is a country in Europe which didn’t compete in a war since 1798, but had no problem with storing the war-money of Nazis, has no problem with storing money of Russia and Israel. The government of this country has also no problem with bribery in world known organizations based there, which are: EBU in Geneva UEFA in Nyon FIFA… Read more »

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Christobal

Nemo are not one person though, identify as they/them

They seem quite lovely yes

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  Christobal

So what? A contestant is representing a broadcaster and not a nation. That’s the first thing you should learn when you’re entering the Eurovision world. And you failed.

Christobal
Christobal
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

so You still belive that the official voting results in the ESC are not fixed

James Maskell
James Maskell
7 months ago
Reply to  Christobal

One of the Youtubers who covers Eurovision went through the numbers. Basically even if Klein did perform in the Final, it would almost certainly not have won based on the previous voting figures from the semis that inform the Jury vote. The gap was considered to be too big.

Eleanor
Eleanor
7 months ago

Honestly, I don’t even blame the woman – she might be jumpy from past experiences or have a legitimate reason for getting scared. She could be new at her job and made a mistake when filming him. She probably didn’t even tell anyone at first since it took a whole day for the news to come out. In fact she might even feel horrible seeing how it was blown out of proportions, and may regret telling anyone at all. It was the EBU that made the unjust decision and even now refuse to backtrack on it. They didn’t even let… Read more »

Barry
Barry
7 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor

We don’t know her story because she refused to talk more then once to Joost or AvroTros. Even after apologies she found it necessary to play the high game.

Inkie
Inkie
7 months ago
Reply to  Barry

Maybe she just did what the EBU wanted her to do.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Inkie

They probably asked her to go to the police, but it’s over now… let’s stop speculating..

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Barry

I’m sure the police talked to her more than once. The incident occured under high pressure and both of them were wrong, it’s time to call it a day now . She and the EBU punished him enough by throwing him out of the competition.

Barry
Barry
7 months ago
Reply to  Bettie

If she talked before to Joost/AvroTros I am sure the police wasn’t needed. She and the EBU made blew this up to mythological proportions.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor

She and the EBU punished him enough… the EBU will never admit they made a mistake because of the money involved. I hope we leave Eurovision for at least a couple of years.

Eleanor
Eleanor
7 months ago

EBU: “Joost is disqualified because he is getting investigated by the police”
Police: *closes the case*
EBU: “The police investigation does not impact the decision to disqualify”

The audacity.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor

AVROTROS likely bribed the swedish police to make sure their beloved pet is innocent

*puke*

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Okay so you are saying now that Swedish Police is corrupt?

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago
Reply to  Eleanor

Well, no. People get disqualified all the time from events without it needing to be a police matter. Or do you want the police to be called every time someone false starts at the Olympics?

Eleanor
Eleanor
7 months ago
Reply to  Fatima

The EBU literally said in their statement at the time that he was disqualified because of the ongoing investigation

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago

Now that the police investigation is over, the EBU should publish the detail behind the reasons for the disqualification. In the past they said it would not be appropriate to do so. Now, it is appropriate.

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  Fatima

I don’t think so.

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago
Reply to  Jonny

Why not Jonny, aren’t you interested? Don’t you think it might silence some of their critics? I think it would help kill the story if it were explained what Klein did which caused them to take such drastic action. Or do you want all the moaning and speculation to continue?

Azuro
Azuro
7 months ago

Hope the Netherlands does sit 2025 put and take their toxic fans with them. We have Luxembourg now.

The behaviour of ESC fans and artists has been shown up by the olympic athletes displaying no such hostilities towards the Israeli delegation.

Ellen
Ellen
7 months ago
Reply to  Azuro

I agree. Take the Dutchies to the trash. They ruined the contest with their toxicity.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

tea, very embarrassing, making me ashamed to be dutch

can’t say i missed us in the final this year honestly, and their drama queen behaviour ruined what was a amazing eurovision season from nf’s to the main thing, many songs i still listen to

sTommie
sTommie
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Dear Nicky, everyone in the Netherlands is ashamed you are Dutch.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  sTommie

my dutch music tastes vs everyone else’s are world’s apart honestly

i never liked Joost for one second lol, and i always knew there was something off about him

i like

  • Chef’Special
  • Tino Martin
  • Flemming
  • Froukje
  • Merol
  • Blaudzun
  • JW Roy
  • Son Mieux

but none of these will get chosen, since avrotros morons are too obsessed with that joost loser

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

You basically like what everybody likes in the Netherlands. You are not that special.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

te flauw, gaan we niet mee winnen.

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

How dare you omit Splitsing

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Tino Martin? OMG …

Kos
Kos
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

If you’re ashamed to be the door is open wide enough for to choose to other nationalities. The Dutch are not welcome you , they’re are ashamed of you.

Kos
Kos
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Toxicity is the one who provoked it

Mary
Mary
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Get a life Ellen

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

You are nat like the EBU, put the blame on someone else.. to hide your own mistakes, I would apply for a job if I were you.

Barry
Barry
7 months ago
Reply to  Azuro

Still out of arguments. Haters keep on hating.

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Azuro

Toxic fans? Please explain?

Martinus
Martinus
7 months ago

The only proper revenge is Joost participating in 2025 with satyrical song about ESC

Jonny
Jonny
7 months ago
Reply to  Martinus

That’s not Klein’s decision.

Mina
Mina
7 months ago

Yep, it did sound like an attack from woke culture from the start. A lot of people are getting offended by nothing and they do whatever to get other people cancelled.

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Mina

Joost needs to be cancelled, he deserves to be cancelled, entire AVROTROS deserves to be cancelled, with their basic generic lifeless turd entries, what do we care about dutch language, about that disgusting stupid language

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous91

Let’s cancel everything apart from you and Emma Muscat

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Fatima

i’ll quit discussing this topic then, i really couldn’t care less what Netherlands decide to do, if they really want to participate with the little loser, consider my last place sorted again for the year, especially if he’ll go with a satirical PC song to mock the ebu and sweden

as for Emma? no need for that sarcastic dig at her anymore, she took a gamble with going for a self-love empowerment anthem and it didn’t pay off as well as she or me had hoped it would, so what, it’s still my no.1 of 2022

Zipp
Zipp
7 months ago

If EBU won’t refund Netherlands fees and apologise then NL should either withdraw or provoke by sending Joost with a troll song smartly exposing EBU and Israel. “Too proud to say sorry” would be a great title. He would be hyped by fans and could win which EBU and Israel would hate. They wouldn’t be able to disqualify him second time in row so it would be funny to watch.

JustOne
JustOne
7 months ago
Reply to  Zipp

Lol, you are so full of hate.
Wtf you think Israel will have any problem with what you wrote? Joost and baby thug were abusive and violence.

Maybe it wasn’t illegal, but still uncool.

Laburnum
Laburnum
7 months ago
Reply to  JustOne

how were host and barbie thug abusive and violent?

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  JustOne

yes Joost is a vile women abuser, and he gets defended too by many people, no wonder why most women are scared to report physical or verbal abuse to the authorities

Ellen
Ellen
7 months ago

And again… another male abuser getting away. The Swedish police clearly didn’t do its job. That Dutch ace in the hole needs to be harrassed his whole life for what he’s done. Shame on your dead parents, Jost.

Shino
Shino
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Wow you are really low! Shame on you! Feel proud of yourself now??? Pathetic is what you are!

Shino
Shino
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Ellen just reached a new low. Pathetic.

Jo.
Jo.
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

the end of your comment shows that something must be rotting inside you

Kos
Kos
7 months ago
Reply to  Jo.

Yap ! something is rotten inside her and didn’t smell it

Ellen
Ellen
7 months ago
Reply to  Jo.

Like his dead parents

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

I feel sorry for you posting mean comments to get attention, you must be very lonely.

Barry
Barry
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Where’s your self love? Poor girl…

UK Chick
UK Chick
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

This is by far the worst comment I have read on this page. Hope you are okay.

Kos
Kos
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Shame on you commenting on his deceased’s parent. They have nothing to do with it, you don’t have any remorse. Did it ever occur to you that women can be abusing towards men too. Like what are you doing now you’re abusing and harassing Joost and his deceased parent. Again shame on you Ellen , get a hobby

Ellen
Ellen
7 months ago
Reply to  Kos

He didn’t have any remorse either. So I won’t have any for this abuser. I don’t why y’all are mad. Y’all act the same with Israel. What’s the matter ?

020Nick
020Nick
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

A. He apologized righr after the incident directly to the girl
B. How would you call overstepping boundaries of an authistic person time after time?
C. Where is your application to the Swedish police if you can do so much better?

ESC Jaden
ESC Jaden
7 months ago
Reply to  020Nick

not true, The woman refused to talk to Joost. Joost and Avrotros tried multiple times to have a conversation with the woman.
This has ‘Karen’ written all over it, and i hope she shows her face one day. This is one big victory for the snowflake community

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago
Reply to  020Nick

Wasn’t “the girl” the one who went to the police?

Alex
Alex
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

This is not OJ Simpson.

Epicurean
Epicurean
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

You are a disgusting PoS.

Tom
Tom
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

Neg into oblicy

ESC Jaden
ESC Jaden
7 months ago
Reply to  Ellen

This is just disgusting

Bombalurina
Bombalurina
7 months ago

A direct spot in the grand final or refund for Netherlands is not enough , get rid of Moroccan oil and have Nokia or Turkish Airlines instead as the sponsor of Eurovision

Tony
Tony
7 months ago

I hope this woman who caused all this drama will be banned from Eurovision forever. Shame on her and shame on EBU. 2024 will forever stay as one of the worst Eurovision Song Contests ever. Everything was so wrong. I will watch the Eurovision 2025 to celebrate the 25 years for the win of The Olsen Brothers. When Eurovision was still fun. Then it will be a goodbye to a contest, which gave us so much great music and fun and so many nice memories. Unfortunately it has become one big joke.

beccaboo1212
beccaboo1212
7 months ago
Reply to  Tony

Here’s to Eurovision 2026 and beyond.

020Nick
020Nick
7 months ago
Reply to  Tony

2025 is also the celebration of 25 years of “no goodbyes “ so don’t say goodbye!

TheBoysOnTheRocks
TheBoysOnTheRocks
7 months ago

#martinösterdahlneedstoresign
Is there already an online petition?

58 Points (JE)
7 months ago

Car.Crash. EBU needs to work on its duty of care of vulnerable performers and clean up what’s become a circus in the back of house.

Epicurean
Epicurean
7 months ago

So where are all the Joost bullies? Shame on you all. He was harassed and bullied by the people who were told and agreed to respect a moment of privacy for him after his emotional performance.

Here we are. A young man’s dream shattered and taken away from him.

Shame on the EBU. Complete lack of accountability and credibility. Bought and paid for organisation.

Zipp
Zipp
7 months ago
Reply to  Epicurean

They are in Israel.

JustOne
JustOne
7 months ago
Reply to  Zipp

Look like they are in Erupoe posting hate speech

JustOne
JustOne
7 months ago
Reply to  Epicurean

But he did addmit he was being violence towards the camera man.
?????

ESC Jaden
ESC Jaden
7 months ago
Reply to  JustOne

he didn’t admit to any violence. An overreaction yes, but no violence or harmful behaviour

Fred
Fred
7 months ago

Since Joost Klein is the most popular of 2024, EBU should also place him as the 2nd winner and let him participate next year. I expect that they will not do anything since they did not want to sit down with Joost Klein at the time it all happened, nor with AVRO Tros. They wanted to hear one person and that was the lady who filed this complaint. Apparently EBU is playing judge who only looks at 1 side to throw the Netherlands out then. It is special that Joost is allowed to participate in Eurovision next year by EBU.… Read more »

Tom
Tom
7 months ago
Reply to  Fred

It was to remove the most likely winner of the public vote. Votes that would have come from the Israeli votes. Get my drift? Who Sponsor such an event ? Aaahhhhh Google is your friend

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago
Reply to  Fred

Wasn’t Nemo “the most popular of 2024″?

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Fatima

Nemo were the most popular yes, hence why they won

The Code is literally so brilliant, even more fun than Israel 2018 Toy!

Helena (hellie_888)
Helena (hellie_888)
7 months ago

The EBU has simply lost even the tiniest fraction of credibility that it had left among the fan community by acting prematurely and showing a hypocritical tendency towards their sponsors. It’s not even about politics here anymore, it’s only about the money they get regardless of where it’s from. So, to put it short, we all knew that Joost didn’t deserve this type of extremely harsh punishment for nothing from the start.

Sierri
7 months ago

So Martin Ohsterdahl and the EBU have just gone, oh he’s gone and said ‘he pushed a camera, let’s disqualify him. And go and say ‘there’s no evidence that he did it’ What is this?

Adam
Adam
7 months ago
Reply to  Sierri

It said there is no evidence that he caused fear! Joost himself admitted lunging at the photographer with his fist. I think he was rightly disqualified. The Dutch will have to get over it…

Kos
Kos
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

No I don’t think he should be disqualified for making fist gestures because he did not want to be film after emotional ending of the song. An agreement has been made clear with the EBU and they show no respect to his wishes. He just need some space to calm after the performance . It’s not too much to ask.

Fatima
Fatima
7 months ago
Reply to  Kos

Where is the proof that an agreement was made?

Tony
Tony
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

No he did not.

ESC Jaden
ESC Jaden
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

a fist was never mentioned

Jeroen
Jeroen
7 months ago

Both the EBU and AVROTROS are sticking to their point (AVROTROS rightly so ofcourse), this can only end in court, and will probably mean NL is out in 2025. Big financial blow for the EBU

Anonymous91
Anonymous91
7 months ago
Reply to  Jeroen

thankfully stupid Netherlands is out, won’t miss us participating in the contest, i never support my own nation anyway

Jo.
Jo.
7 months ago

so the ebu has become some sort of dictatorship that can decide who get disqualified and who gets the trophy

Adam
Adam
7 months ago
Reply to  Jo.

EBU decided he should not compete while the investigation was ongoing. The performer has admitted lunging at the photographer with his fist. The photographer must have felt threatened to make a complaint. The Dutch performer got what was coming to him. I think he should apologise.

Shino
Shino
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

Hahaha thats funny. The only one who should be apologizing is the EBU.

Tony
Tony
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

The photographer was one big liar.

Rich
Rich
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

Annoying that you keep copying this false statement everywhere, Adam. He never said that. Your behavior and repeating falsehoods is what’s wrong. What are you trying to accomplish? You’re low.

CookyMonzta
CookyMonzta
7 months ago

So, that’s it? He got disqualified for absolutely nothing? ??

Sal
Sal
7 months ago
Reply to  CookyMonzta

No, he got disqualified for being under police investigation. The finding doesn’t change anything… he was still under police investigation at the time.

Jofty
Jofty
7 months ago

Either Croatia or Netherlands had to go to prevent a particular country from winning the televote and potentially the contest

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Jofty

Exactly

Paul
Paul
7 months ago

Fvck the EBU and fvck israel

Adam
Adam
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Fvck performers who lunge at a photographer with a fist! Disqualification was the right action to take…

Tony
Tony
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

The photographer was a liar

Kos
Kos
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

Where is the photograph? Why didn’t she show her face if she had nothing to hide.

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

with his fist? those are the words of a Swedish gossip paper…

Tony
Tony
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Israel has nothing to do with this

Paul
Paul
7 months ago
Reply to  Tony

Wrong

Bettie
Bettie
7 months ago
Reply to  Tony

They misbehaved and made a lot of pics of other participants against their will, one thing leads to another, you can find the videos online.

beccaboo1212
beccaboo1212
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Israel is a victim of genocidal Palestine while the EBU wants to keep everyone involved in ESC safe. Enough said.

Paul
Paul
7 months ago
Reply to  beccaboo1212

Israel is committing g3nocidal atrocities on the p4lestinian civilian population. I thought never again was supposed to actually mean never again.

Alex
Alex
7 months ago
Reply to  beccaboo1212

Article 3: Torture, cruel and degrading treatment is prohibited;
Article 18: Civilian hospitals and their staff to be protected, not object of attack;
Article 51 (5) (b): Indiscrimnate attacks are prohibited;
Article 54: Starvation of civilians as method of warfare is prohibited;
Article 77: Children shall be protected against any form of indecent assault

From the Geneva Conventions, these are articles Israel has violated in 10 months.

Tino
Tino
7 months ago

EBU needed a distraction so people would talk less about the real problem that was in this Eurovision and that will still be in the future ones.

nobody
nobody
7 months ago

it’s fine, EBU would rather have the Terrorist State of Israel compete than Netherlands

Adam
Adam
7 months ago
Reply to  nobody

I abhor what is happening in Gaza but even excluding Israel won’t stop a single missile from falling. Russia has not competed for the last three years and it has not changed anything on the ground in Ukraine. Keep politics out of Eurovision…

Sebas
Sebas
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

Riiiiiight cuz Israel definitely did not use the contest for political purposes…. ANYWAY.

Iv***
Iv***
7 months ago
Reply to  Adam

And the campaing to vote for Eden was not funded by the Israeli government. Sorry, my bad! A government is a apolitical body. Especially in Israel.

beccaboo1212
beccaboo1212
7 months ago
Reply to  nobody

For your information, Palestine is the terrorist state, and Israel is a huge victim.

020Nick
020Nick
7 months ago
Reply to  beccaboo1212

Psychology shows that vitims can grow up to be agressors too.
Not talkinf but jewish peopke, but their government are the agressors and killers. There is no excuse for their actions

Alex
Alex
7 months ago
Reply to  beccaboo1212

BWAHAHAHAHAHAA

Mandy
Mandy
7 months ago

I decided in May that Eurovision had lost a loyal fan for 2 decades. I am sticking to it. I loved Eurovision so much. I saw the intentional harassment videos towards Joost and others, and nothing was done about it. The many complaints by other contestants: Not a drop of self-reflection by the EBU. But Joost got kicked as soon as he made a mistake on a very vulnerable moment. I am not going to invest my energy in this competition anymore. I will find something better to do in May.

Nils
Nils
7 months ago
Reply to  Mandy

Yet you still choose to spend your time on here, so yeah … I’m sure 100 % sure you’ll boycott Eurovision. ??

beccaboo1212
beccaboo1212
7 months ago
Reply to  Mandy

Please? The EBU will do whatever it takes to bring a safe environment to the Eurovision Song Contest in hopes of haters being fans again, and you should learn to love what you hate.

Tino
Tino
7 months ago
Reply to  beccaboo1212

Interesting. Some countries could also try to apply this beautiful advice, “Learn to love what you hate”.

Mandy
Mandy
7 months ago
Reply to  beccaboo1212

Boundaries are not about hate. 🙂

Fred
Fred
7 months ago

Since Joost Klein is the most popular of 2024, EBU should also place him as the 2nd winner and let him participate next year. I expect that they will not do anything since they did not want to sit down with Joost Klein at the time it all happened, nor with AVRO Tros. They wanted to hear one person and that was the lady who filed this complaint. Apparently EBU is playing judge who only looks at 1 side to throw the Netherlands out then. It is special that Joost is allowed to participate in Eurovision next year by EBU.… Read more »