The jury-televote split results are incredibly confusing, as we already discussed in our results breakdown for the grand final. But to give this non-sense some kind of structure, we’ve compiled this table which roughly demonstrates who the jury hurt and who the jury helped in the final. A negative score means that the jury hurt the contestant. For instance, Romania’s Cezar came 7th with the public, but only 24th with the jury. Hence the difference of -17.
The jury also did significant damage to Hungary, Greece, Belarus and Ireland, each of whom posted a difference of at least -9. It looks like Alyona’s chocolates did little to distract the professionals from her song.
Denmark, Malta and Spain were unaffected by the average jury rankings. Emmelie de Forest finished first with both the jury and the public. In the case of Spain, El Sueno de Morfeo finished last with both the public and the professionals. Ouch! But at least lead singer Raquel knows how to ride a horse. Love that video….
Sweden’s Robin Stjernberg benefitted the most from the jury. The public only had him down in 18th, but the jury had him in third. His difference was +15, which suggests the juries were sucking up to host broadcaster SVT.
Moldova, France and Georgia were the other big winners with the jury, posting differences of +10 or greater.
| Country | Televote | Jury | Difference |
| Romania | 7 | 24 | -17 |
| Hungary | 8 | 21 | -13 |
| Greece | 4 | 14 | -10 |
| Belarus | 13 | 22 | -9 |
| Ireland | 14 | 23 | -9 |
| Iceland | 12 | 17 | -5 |
| Russia | 5 | 10 | -5 |
| Armenia | 15 | 19 | -4 |
| Germany | 16 | 20 | -4 |
| Lithuania | 21 | 25 | -4 |
| Ukraine | 2 | 6 | -4 |
| Denmark | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| Malta | 9 | 9 | 0 |
| Spain | 26 | 26 | 0 |
| Azerbaijan | 3 | 2 | 1 |
| Finland | 20 | 18 | 2 |
| Italy | 10 | 8 | 2 |
| Norway | 6 | 4 | 2 |
| Netherlands | 11 | 7 | 4 |
| Belgium | 17 | 11 | 6 |
| U.K. | 22 | 15 | 7 |
| Estonia | 24 | 16 | 8 |
| Georgia | 23 | 13 | 10 |
| France | 25 | 12 | 13 |
| Moldova | 19 | 5 | 14 |
| Sweden | 18 | 3 | 15 |
Photo: Eurovision.tv
I studied the rules more closely. Currently there are two texts in German, an introduction and one with subject “telephone voting”. The text for the jury will come tomorrow. After that, I’ll translate it into English. Until then translate with google.
It is much text, but I would be happy if you find time to read it.
1. http://musik.klarmachen-zum-aendern.de/blog/edda/eurovision_song_contest_-_abstimmungsmodalit%C3%A4ten_auf_dem_pr%C3%BCfstand_-_teil_i-2451
2. http://musik.klarmachen-zum-aendern.de/blog/edda/eurovision_song_contest_%E2%80%93_abstimmungsmodalit%C3%A4ten_teil_ii_-_das_telefonvoting-2454
Well, after having seen these split results I can say that I hope that Eurovision will be back to 100% jury voting. The televoters have a horrible music taste, voting for horrible songs like “Igranka” and “It’s my life” and not voting for beautiful songs like “O mie” or “Et uus saaks alguse”. Look at the 90s, there were only good songs and beautiful winning songs, and this is because at that time there were only the juries which could vote. Now, if the contest wants to survive as a real musical contest, it needs to come back to 100%… Read more »
It is absolutely beyond me how Sweden could possibly come 3rd with the jury votes-it was a horrible entry!!
Guess whom are televoters ALWAYS hurting?
Right. Autriche, of course. Difference in 2011: -20 ranks
MK-
I think you are right! lets JUST have judges.
Uk´s judges? (two seventy year olds)-I would put a bit more experience in that one-My Grandmother for a start-shes 86 and quite deaf but she can spot a hit as well as Tony Blackburn-
Finlands judges? only 2 of them never work in english-just DJ or write songs for teenagers in finnish-lets get a whole jury there that doesnt speak English!
Swedens judges? only 1 of them worked for sony-lets have all 5 and they can just vote for singers who have a sony contract..
Come on people! Romania wasn’t a good song, back to the eighties with a circus act. Thank God there were juries. Why is everybody slamming the juries? Yes indeed, Montenegro was 4th by televote. But Austria was 5th by juries and fell out because of the televote (15th). The same for Moldova and Sweden in the final. Why isn’t anyone talking about that?
PLEASE don’t go to a system with only televote!
Continuing… I wonder if San Remo Festival or other national music/song contest has a jury composed ONLY of journalist… And we are talking here about an European contest…
@StilEuroFan
Good point. The jury should give a professional opinion about vocal ability, stage presence, rhythm & tempo, originality, so on… If the jury is composed of journalists (see the Italian jury) how can they assure a professional / technical opinion?
In the semifinal Cezar was the 1st for the public and in the final the 7th. The jury robbed CEZAR the most of all competitors. It was the only way to prevent him be on the place that he deserves.
@Lightningbryce – how unlogical you wrote! It is the PUBLIC who chose CEZAR as the best, the great amount of public mass. Among his fans on CEZAR THE VOICE on FB you will find many admirers of him from west countries.
CEZAR from Romania had the most calls from the public through televoting and because of the jury he was not even in top 10. Shame on the jury! Cezar has the most views from all the songs on youtube on the channel of eurovision (only a video which was loaded three months ago with Emelie has more views). My God, how he was robbed!
As I read in a previous comment on this site, it is quite strange that Cezar had such a low ranking in jury’s vote. In professional terms, his performance was the best, and this is what the jury should point, not something else. The televote should point if the public like the song or not; the televote is a matter of taste. Instead, I see they are viceversa. Something is wrong!
OMG people. The system that they are using isn’t complicated at all. The fact that Ireland placed last is perfectly possible. Their average score is higher than the average score of spain, BUT it is an average. Spain could have had 1 or 2 more peeks, therefore placing 1 or 2 times in the top 10. Meaning they would get points. Ireland could have been placed continually 14th/15th, meaning that they didn’t place top 10 and therefore getting 0 points. It is all about the peek moments. It is a good and fair system that keeps the joke entries out… Read more »
“To protect the fairness of the voting, the EBU does not release the split ranking of televoting and jury per country. Publishing these numbers would explicitly highlight if countries don’t meet the televoting threshold – the minimum number of televotes needed to become a statistically valid result – is and where thus only the jury voting was regarded valid.” … this means that jury vote was in fact a lot more important than 50% … why then is not accepted that countries that have more than 1 mill viewers in previous year final (the exact number is theirs to determine)… Read more »
Either way. It’s done now. I’m just happy and honoured I got the opportunity to discover Florin CEZAR ‘The Voice’ Ouatu from Romania. I had never heard of him before, and might I point out that I couldn’t even buy his song on itunes after the Eurovision, unless I bought the whole album, and yet others were being sold as singles. I’m Irish. I’m sure Ryan will brush off the fact that the voting went against him. His song is selling very well and he’s popular regardless. The Eurovision was never ‘fair’ it’s part of its’ charm. I don’t agree… Read more »
Not giving the power back to the public only means that we will see the same song in 25 versions in the final which is boring to say the least. Year after year diversity, courage to try new songs and musical styles, glamour, all is lost. The song from last year slightly modified will win the next year and next year and so on. Shame on EBU for that.
The actual voting system has a clear target: to allow juries decide the final results as it has already been established. I wonder if this contest is made only for the jurors tastes? Are the songs written for a small number of “specialists” or for the general public? What is the role of the televote in these voting system? Why do we continue to vote in all these lies and unfair competition? ESC do you need the audience? Do you need the televote or you prefer to let the juries do…
Eurovision don’t say ¨ goodbye ¨ to our votes, you must to say ¨Adieu¨ (form of greeting in French when we will never see)! 🙂
So really they “hurt” some and “helped” others. The same might be said of the televoters. Why do people assume that “the public knows better”? I’m all for the system. The only ones complaining will be the losers. And they differ every year! Give it up for the juries!!!
I think Ireland.Montenegro,Romania,Bulgaria and Switzerland should quit the “contest” It is not a fair compettiion-It has become a complete joke..
I’m so confused with these split votes how can Ireland finish 14th with the televote, 23rd with the jury and then end up finishing last when Spain were ranked last with both the jury and the televote?! :/
Hmm…now I do understand why Romania was lowered so much on the scoreboard. Stupid Eurovision. Stupid. Who are the guys that make up the jury? It´s always been a mystery to me.
https://twitter.com/JedEurovision/status/339479012059533312/photo/1
https://twitter.com/JedEurovision/status/339479012059533312/photo/1
this simplifies it..
Thnk god for the juries. A top placement for that hideous travesty that was Romania would have sent Eurovision back a decade or so. That freak show hurt both the ears AND the eyes of anybody west of the Danube.
Not so much regret for the injustice done to CEZAR because after Eurovision the only jury are us, and CEZAR approaching 2.5 million views, which says it all!
My great regret is for all professionals who have worked on this production, they have no fault for what happened and for Sweden to because this edition, technically very well done, ended like ¨ Gambling scam!¨!
I think Kai wants to see the same thing I want to see: Separate scoreboards; that is, the jury scoreboard and the televote scoreboard, similar to the overall scoreboard…
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/history/by-year/contest?event=1773
To whom did each of the nation’s juries give 12, 10, 8 and so on, and to whom did each of the nation’s televoters give 12, 10, 8 and so on? That will give us a clearer picture of how the final result came to be, more so than the average ranking charts.
More random numerology, using average rankings instead of rankings of average rankings. But [insert numerous and verbose disclaimers here] anyway. _____Top ten splits: JURY + 10.73 France TELE + 10.33 Romania JURY + 8.14 Sweden JURY + 7.88 Moldova TELE + 7.40 Hungary TELE + 6.28 Greece JURY + 6.18 Estonia JURY + 6.11 Belgium JURY + 4.98 Georgia JURY + 4.57 UK _____Ranges: JURY 6.23 – 19.64, less than 54% of the maximum 25 (26-1). TELE 4.97 – 22.92, about 72% of maximum. In terms of applied leverage, that’s something like 57% televote vs 43% jury overall. _____Ranking: The… Read more »
Sad…
You gotta be freaking kidding me, I’ve really had enough of these juries!!!! For 5 years, they have been destroying the competition, the juries have a terrible, and yet boring taste in music, I loved those days, when the televoters would vote for the entries, for being different, and completely strange, that would make the voting all funnier and exciting! Sorry for my rude language, but seriously FUCK the juries, I’ve really had enough of them, I feel so sorry for Romania mostly, cause I love that song, Cezar is a great dude, very talented, and he had some different,… Read more »
Also, Romania won the televote, Malta won the jury, yet Azerbaijan won overall in SF 2. Does this sound fair?
Why did they make it so fucking complicated? I didn’t know you needed to have a degree in Maths to follow the ESC.
Jen, yes interesting it is… but it has nothing to do with the result and you cant come to a conclusion which influence the jury or the telvote really had.. and thats a pity… you can guess somethings but doesnt really know… interesting it is, you are right…
@Bogdan. AGREED. all this mumbo jumbo about placing in the Top 10 within a country is too confusing. SVT made this so crazy in 2013. Can we go back to last year?!
I feel bad for Cezar. The jury really knocked him. I wish it were like the old days — just the public!!!! (And, yes, I too thought Montenegro was AWESOME).
And Spain finishing last with both juries and televoters, yet Ireland coming last on the official scoreboard… it’s confusing to say the least. I expect many Irish fans will be upset with this unfair result. As they ought to be!
Chill out, Kai. Actually, these tables ARE interesting because they show how international averages looked jury vs public. It’s fascinating.
God bless the juries for that… Montenegro out was the best decision
These tables don’t show nothing!
The list is real bullshit and there is NONE news in it. because it isnt showing real results…
Example:
average placing 7th (19times 1st (19x 12 points = 228 points) + 19 times 13th (19x 0 points = 0 points) = 228 Points) and average 6th place (38times 6th place (38×5 pints = 190 points).. the 7th would be better than the 6th…
But in the list by the EBU it is the other way….
These tables don’t show nothing!
Sad.